Mosin Nagent revolver price

[Mean Bob Mean]

Mosin Nagant revolver in a local shop.  It looks almost new, checkering is excellent, metal and bore are outstanding.  Comes with an extra 7 shot cylinder in .32 ACP.  He wants about 170.00 for it.  I am thinking on it.  Any input as to the value is greatly appreciated.  I think there is a holster as well.  

[Blair]

Bob,

Sounds very interesting. Almost any center fire revolver is worth that asking price!
Do you know which Model type?
What is the standard Cylinder chambered for? Is ammo available for either cylinder?
If you get it... which discipline would you use it in?
My best,
Blair

[Mean Bob Mean]

Sounds very interesting. Almost any center fire revolver is worth that asking price!
Do you know which Model type?
What is the standard Cylinder chambered for? Is ammo available for either cylinder?
If you get it... which discipline would you use it in?
My best,
Blair

As I recall it was stamped 1895 and there is of course .32 ACP ammo available, they said the other was available I believe it was (know nothing about these) 7.62x38r?  Something of that nature?  I have read in years past that people converted them to shoot .32 S&W bu that may not be right, as I said I know nothing truly about them, just thought "170.00 for a gun in that shape . . . ."

I would buy it because it is extremely old and cool.  It was double action so it is right out for SASS shooting.  What disciplines would allow its use?

Cheers,

Bob

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[Pitspitr]

It was double action so it is right out for SASS shooting.  What disciplines would allow its use?

GAF!

[Blair]

Bob,

Just my prospective, I don't consider 1892 as being "very" old. Yet, the asking price for this revolver is really rather attractive.

My suggestion is to do some research (as best you can) into the ammo and it's availability in this country for this firearm.
Some of this, if available, can be hard to find and/or very expensive. Again, I do not know. (This is well outside my time period for Cowboy Shooting.)

There are disciplines that may allow this firearm on this forum? I do not have an answer for that.
Of course, none of this info may mean nothing to you and your interest. But, that is up to you.
My best,
Blair

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

The almost caliber is .32-20.  Sometimes the rim has to be thinned, and it won't do the gas-seal thing.  You can get proper Nagant brass from privi partisan but its tricky to load as LEE dies are made for  use with .32-20 brass.  I have a few loaded and can share my tricks if anyone is interested.

If I recall correctly, NCOWS may allow it, to replicate any of the BP Nagant revolvers of that era.

[Mean Bob Mean]

My suggestion is to do some research (as best you can) into the ammo and it's availability in this country for this firearm.

All worthy advice, thanks.

[Mean Bob Mean]

The almost caliber is .32-20.  Sometimes the rim has to be thinned, and it won't do the gas-seal thing.  You can get proper Nagant brass from privi partisan but its tricky to load as LEE dies are made for  use with .32-20 brass.  I have a few loaded and can share my tricks if anyone is interested.

If I recall correctly, NCOWS may allow it, to replicate any of the BP Nagant revolvers of that era.

As a novice reloader this scares me off a tad.  Thanks Sir Charles.

[pony express]

Going price around here, and online, seems to be about $200, and that's just the standard pistol, no extra cylinder. 32ACP is available, and you can find both surplus Russian and occasionally Privi Partisan ammo for them. As Sir Charles mentioned, you can also make brass out of 32-20. I'd probably jump on it at that price, especially if it's an earlier import that isn't defaced with the giant import marks some of the later ones had.

Expect a heavy trigger pull. Get one of those spring loaded grip exercisers and build up your trigger finger muscles. Look on Gunboards or Surplusrifleforum for a trick to lighten the DA pull by placing a slightly smashed lead bullet or a small nut in the leaves of the main spring. First time I picked one up, I actually couldn't make it fire DA! But I've heard some of them aren't that bad.

If your SASS club won't let you shoot one at least at local matches, they're just being too picky. It's not like a DA with a 20+lb trigger pull is going to give you some great advantage.

Drydock has a couple of them, and has worked out most of the bugs as far as using them.

[Mean Bob Mean]

Going price around here, and online, seems to be about $200, and that's just the standard pistol, no extra cylinder.

Yeah, the extra cylinder makes it a decent deal to my mind.  I will look over the proof marks and others, thanks!  Gunbroker they start around 150.00 (current auction, might go up) to much more for special pistols (1913 Manufacture was I think about 800.00). 

[pony express]

The extra cylinder would be a great deal, I think. I don't think they have made those for a while. .32 ACP would be a snap for even an inexperienced reloader to load. (except for maybe getting finger cramps from handling those tiny cases)

[Drydock]

At that price with the extra cylinder, I'd grab it, no questions!  They don't make those cylinders anymore.  

If the gun has been refurbished at some point, it will probably use .32-20 brass with no modifications.  Of the three I own, 2 will take .32-20 brass no problems, both are Refurbs.   Only the non refurbed 1935 will not.

HOWEVER.  The CURRENT Lee die set WILL load Nagant gas seal ammo.  I have such a set, and thats what I use.  Grafs and Midway have PRVI Nagant brass, and its really not that hard to load, the bullet just seats deeper in the case than what we're used to.  The only caveat is that the gas seal feature works the case mouth pretty hard, and it cracks after 3 or 4 loadings, so I mostly load .32-20 brass conventionaly, and save the Nagant brass for special occasions.

In your case, I'd just use the 32 acp cylinder until I felt comfortable to experiment with the more exotic Nagant rounds.  These are simple, robust and strong revolvers.  My son enjoys shooting his at our GAF events.

[Mean Bob Mean]

At that price with the extra cylinder, I'd grab it, no questions!  

Thanks brother.

[Drydock]

You could just buy one of these as well, and be set for quite a while . . .

http://www.jgsales.com/7.62-nagant-7.62x38r-russian-surplus-108gr-fmj-ammo,-1092rd-sealed-tin.-p-6866.html

[Mean Bob Mean]

Nice on the round count!

However, I just spoke with my kid and the Memsahib and it looks like like one of the two we currently have in college is going to need a new set of wheels.  Top off that with I just won an argument with the wife and I need to find a really pricey gift for her dad . . . .

I won't be getting the Nagant this summer. 

How things change in a day

[Drydock]

Where is it?  Close enough, I might grab it myself, sell it to you for cost next year.  I like doing load development for these things.

Ah crud, yer in Floridy . . .

[Mean Bob Mean]

If anyone is interested I will happily get the info for them. 

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Some references;

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-226290.html

http://www.realguns.com/loads/762x38rnagant.htm

http://www.realguns.com/archives/130.htm

[pony express]

Well, If it was local I'd find a way to jump on it, but since after paying shipping and paying an FFL, I'd probably have at least $230 or so in it, I'll just have to spend my money on something else. Been trying to put together a new persona for Expansion Era, but then I happened to see an S-71 German bayonet on E-bay that has nothing to do with anything, except that it would look awesome hanging on the end of my GEW88.......Just have to see how high it goes for....

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Can you put it on layaway, and give up beer & tobacco til its paid for?