Well, here is the kicker there Craig. I have in fact owned, disassembled, worked on and tuned both. All manner of USFA offerings. I have never in fact made any claim they were other than Very Fine guns. They were, while in production, and they are, now not in production, Very Fine Guns. That is a given. They also had Warts. That is a fact.
Now I'll repeat myself, at their price point, the guns should have been "right" right out of the box. They wern't. Unless the intended purpose for ownership is simply to place them in a safe and fondle 'em once in a while.
Your prime displeasure seems to be taking great umbrage at my descriptive terminology. Sorry, but I don't make apology for that. Your have in fact, placed the "Apple of Your Eye" on such a high pedestal you're blinded by simple reality. You're comparison with a limited production, niche market specialty item is ludicrous.
I will agree though, This is just silly. We could go round and round for a decade and not budge. Let's just give it a rest, shall we.
Have Fun Out There