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how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« on: August 10, 2020, 08:45:52 AM »
is there a way to stop corrision of bullet casing that stay in the belt

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2020, 08:54:37 AM »
Empty the belt.

The loops will retain what elasticity they have.

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2020, 09:00:01 AM »
What they did in the 19th century ...canvas belts
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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2020, 09:48:41 AM »
Leather is corrosive to brass and steel. Cartridges can't be left in for prolonged periods. If the belt is used for CAS, take the cartridges out after your match. If it's used for hunting, take them out after your hunting trip is over. Also, don't store your pistols in the holsters either.

Otherwise, Major 2's suggestion is good. Get an all canvass cartridge belt.

Here's a belt with canvass for the cartridges. http://bigrobsgunleather.weebly.com/canvas-belt-loops.html



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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2020, 10:31:19 AM »
Marshal, that canvas over the leather looks good. Don't believe I've seen that before.
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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2020, 10:32:42 AM »
I haven't seen it before, either. I just found it looking for something to use as an example. We both learned something, eh? It probably isn't historically correct so if that's a concern, all canvass would be the way to go.

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2020, 11:02:59 AM »
You can also use nickled brass in your belt loops, which won't tarnish.  Not period-correct, though.

I use a Texas Jack canvas cartridge belt.  Brass left in loops turns brown, but not green.

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2020, 11:47:43 AM »
I haven't seen it before, either. I just found it looking for something to use as an example. We both learned something, eh? It probably isn't historically correct so if that's a concern, all canvass would be the way to go.

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I think that sort of setup is shown on David Carrico's site and he's Historically correct as far as I know.  Wolf Ear's Equipment shows the same combination. 

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2020, 04:40:14 PM »
Hi Marshal

I think that sort of setup is shown on David Carrico's site and he's Historically correct as far as I know.  Wolf Ear's Equipment shows the same combination. 

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Thanks. David does offer a Fair Weather belt with canvass loops. He also has some Prairie and other canvass belts with leather billet and buckle ends. I personally use a Prarie style belt. I will have to check out Wolf Ear's site.

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2020, 06:39:18 AM »
I'd second the suggestion to use canvas style loops. Attached is a belt I made for .45-70 Cartridges using webbing.
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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2020, 08:43:14 AM »
That's a good looking belt, John. Nice work.

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2020, 08:48:23 AM »
 :)  BEE DOUGH . . . BEE DOUGH ... OH!! Hi there   ;)

I found an even better solution.  Eliminate the cartridge loops entirely.  Yep.  Do away with 'em.  You see,  cartridges are HEAVY.  By the time you get to Phoenix (stollen famous song line) or the 4th stage of a match on a 90 degree day, that really trix looking cartridge belt will weigh a TON.  Not that I'm a Wuss (I Am) but hey, two revolvers is enough already.

A missive that provides no useful information to the OP.  Nope.  None.  Nada.  Nix.  Nein.  But hey, it's Tuesday morning and I needed someone to talk to.  So there you have it.  Nanny Nanny Poo Poo.

However:  Nickel.  Nickel cartridges don't suffering's the dreaded Verdigris.  Worry over being Hysterically is accurate is silly.  Specially if yer carryin a pair of Rugers??  The concern over Hysterical accuracy in a fantasy game is ludicrous.  Don't worry .. Be Comfy (I think i got that line rite)

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2020, 09:07:30 AM »
Wow.. Thanks guys.  So in the Old West a man would not carry rounds in his belt unless it was canvass.  We may need to remake a lot of movies.

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2020, 09:28:11 AM »
Wow.. Thanks guys.  So in the Old West a man would not carry rounds in his belt unless it was canvass.  We may need to remake a lot of movies.

Maybe they used em before they went rusty ?

Oil will stop the green - soak the leather in 30 grade engine oil then dry it out with a piece of old towell - messes up the shape of the loops tho - leather goes soft.

I got two pistols that live in leather holsters - made a little sock thingy from flannelette soaked in oil that goes ona gun before it goes in the holster --- no rust!   

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2020, 10:40:07 AM »
For what its worth, the first rig I built for myself had leather cartridge loops. The bullets did turn green after a while. My next rigs had pouches to carry my spare bullets in.

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2020, 04:29:09 PM »

 :)  Not just quite exactly  ;)

Whenever you run across, find, are presented with, oogle, see Tin Types of the era we portray, you will want to make note of the "gun/cartridge belts."  Depending on the time frame.  Cap Guns were normally carried holstered in a plain belt with a "cartridge pouch" for loose ammunition.  The cartridge pouch carried forward into the "Conversions."  Then you will note the later gun belts with cartridge loops.  Law Men (Rangers) carried really wide belts with TWO rows of cartridges.  Even more heavier.  Canvas belts were primarily used for Rifle cartridges such as 45-70 and larger.  You can bet those guys cartridges also suffered Verdigris.  I don't think they cared.

Today we play a game.  A fantasy game.  A fantasy game that should be FUN.  Lugging around a heavy belt full of cartridges your not going to use in the games is kinda . . . . well . . silly.  Oh, and not at all fun on a hot day.  Especially those double crossed gun belts and those Ranger belts.  No way.  Just my thoughts.  Heck, I even have a trix set of Pommel Holsters on my kart so I can shed my Revolvers between stages.  Yes.  I am.  I am most definitely LAZY and proud of it.

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2020, 11:05:34 PM »
...  Yes.  I am.  I am most definitely LAZY and proud of it.

Or is it just being really efficient?   :)

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2020, 09:16:25 AM »
Leaving cartridge loops empty is a good idea. In my opinion, a couple spares are fine for stages but not a whole belt full. Also, I don't like heavy, stiff double layer belts. I'm all for comfort. Now, pommel holsters on your cart is a good idea. I may have to roll out some leather on the work bench...

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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2020, 09:20:27 PM »
Arent green bullets that stick in your gun historically accurate?  I seem
to recall Custer's troopers having that problem.
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Re: how do you stop casing from tarnishing in the belt
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2020, 10:11:28 AM »
 :o  Oh WOW   :o

Jeremiah . . . How absolutely cool.  I weren't aware we had any "first person" knowledge of the era.  I have sooooooo many questions (Snickers behind hand)  ::)

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