Thanks for the replys. I ordered one and got it a few days ago. It shoots A Good group a few inches low but the windage is pretty much on. The timing is a little off, the bolt is coming up just outside the lead and leaving a ping mark. The last three guns I have bought have all been like this including a new colt. The trigger pull weighs in at 3.5 pounds a little heavy for me, but it breaks clean. I'll be sending it out to have it tuned up. Overall I'm satisfied and I do believe its a better value for dollar. Again thanks for the replys.