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Webley?
« on: July 15, 2015, 09:03:30 AM »
This is from Webley & Scott's company website.  Great parts video.  Exploring the site also shows Webley making a breechloading 1894 BP cannon for reinactors.

http://webleymkvi.com/
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Re: Want a Webley?
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2015, 09:42:52 AM »
So if I'm reading this right, they're talking about reproducing Webley revolvers? Because that would make me a happy camper.
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Re: Want a Webley?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2015, 05:48:35 PM »
Ah my Dear Netizens -

Here We Go Again, a Re-Organized corp taking "subscriptions" against a "yet to be made" revolver.

this smells so much like the Merwin and Hulbert debacle....
the exception is that "whoever" Webley is now, they seem to have the ability to make Webley MkVI airpistols.

Altho it is linked, The official Webley and Scott website shows nothing about this
http://www.webley.co.uk/Pages/promotions.html

So some guy named Roger Williams at the shot show said to Jim Davis....
http://www.gunsandgunsmiths.com/?p=3046
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I attended the 2015 SHOT Show and had the pleasure of speaking with Roger Williams at the Webley & Scott booth.... After chatting with Roger he informed us that W&S had indeed been debating about bringing back production on the MK VI, this being the 100 year anniversary of the Mk VI’s adoption. I said “YES” so fast I almost bit my tongue off!

They had recently converted the original schematics for the Mk VI series to digital and are able to start production. The catch is, they need interest and Roger wasn’t sure if there was enough interest in the American market. We assured him there was and he asked for our opinion on a “Founder’s Club” where they would ask for 1000 people to sign up with $100 down payments to start production. I immediately raised my hand and proclaimed myself to be “first in line”

Well within a week of the show ending, the Founder’s Club had started. I’ve already signed up myself and if you are at all interested in owning one of these amazing firearms, I highly suggest you sign up. They are shooting for an MSRP of under $1000 and with the price some of the 100 year old models are currently running, this is an excellent deal. So please, do yourself a favor and sign up for a Webley. I have, and I can’t wait to get mine and try it out. Heck, I might even pick up one of the airguns in the meantime to fulfill the Webley shaped gap in my life.
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so who is this Roger?

http://www.bizdb.co.uk/company/webley-scott-english-arms-limited-02845050/
shows a plethora of info - Webley and Scott is a mere shell of its former self and Williams is the ONLY director

and LinkdIn shows
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In 2008, Webley sold to Webley (International) Limited but still produces products under the Webley name [11]

In January 2011 Webley (international) Limited held a creditors meeting Under Section 98 Insolvency Act 1986. On the 3 February 2011 Liquidators were appointed to Wiind Up the affairs of the company.[12]

According to the Statement of Affairs produced by the Liquidators, Webley (international) owed their unsecured creditors a sum of £164,595.76. They also owed money to one Secured Creditor, Webley Limited (in Liquidation) a sum of £140,000.
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Re: Webley?
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Re: Want a Webley?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2015, 06:38:47 PM »
Its on the Home Page.

http://www.webley.co.uk/Pages/home.html

But yes, as always, buyer beware.
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Re: Want a Webley?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 07:00:55 PM »
If I wanted a Webley Mk VI again, I'd go to Gunbroker and find a nice one.  I don't think it would cost me  $1,000 either!
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Re: Want a Webley?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2015, 11:15:51 PM »
Its on the Home Page.

http://www.webley.co.uk/Pages/home.html

But yes, as always, buyer beware.

Thanks Drydock! I am happy to see your correction!

I do hope this fellow can make it happen; at least they have some sort of product base -Does Webley  do any of their own  manufacturing or are they just a sales office?

Yessir, Niederlander - I too had to go look at the MarkVI's going for well under $1k ...

A MarkVI in the hand is worth 10 on the FoundersClubList
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Re: Want a Webley?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2015, 03:36:41 AM »
From what I understand, W&S production is based in Turkey now, has been since 1997.  Just an office in England.
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2015, 06:23:16 AM »
Ever so often ....the Dangling of the Proverbial Carrot  ::)

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2015, 04:51:17 PM »
Webley sold the Cartridge Revolver factory to the Indian Government in the 50s & they have been manufacturing them there ever since for use by the Military & Police Faorces.
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2015, 07:16:35 AM »
Col., so are you saying they are still making them and just tempting us by dangling the carrot to get us to order them? Dang, they're smarter than I thought. To have a product not readily available here but already in production, and then to let us all think they are gearing up for production just for us. Masterful marketing. And even if they aren't currently in production, if all the tooling is still there they get to put their people back to work and we still think they're doing it just for us. Glad I found one at the OGCA, a parts gun, but the cylinder is in .455 and not shaved. ;)

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2015, 08:53:44 AM »
If Webley sold their cartridge revolver manufacturing capability to the Indian Government - then it 'sold' to the Indian Government and not to the outfit in Turkey.

It's the Turkish firm that is now entering into the realm of the Merwin, Hulbert world.

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2015, 12:15:06 PM »
If Webley sold their cartridge revolver manufacturing capability to the Indian Government - then it 'sold' to the Indian Government and not to the outfit in Turkey.

It's the Turkish firm that is now entering into the realm of the Merwin, Hulbert world.

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2015, 12:30:28 PM »
Buy a 'real' Webley - a true British one - they're out there, and you can actually touch them.

The big Mark VIs were made by both Webley and by the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield Lock, during the Great War, and for a very few years afterward.

The un-cut ones bring a premium, but they're worth it and they're great fun to shoot - the round being much like firing a 40mm Grenade, in that you can watch the high parabolic arc as it sails through space and into the target when firing issue ammunition.

I seriously doubt these will ever be produced - they're 'just' like the failed Merwin,Hulbert and Fletcher-Bidwell projects were.

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2016, 11:49:49 PM »
Well here we go again...

just a little over a year or slightly more since the announcement , and a year and 6 weeks since
the website webleymkvi.com went up .....

no news

and the silence on the webley mark VI .455 founders site is deafening!

all smoke and mirrors.
again.
so sad.

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2016, 01:02:05 PM »
There were literally hundreds of thousands of original Mark VI Webley revolvers produced ... I foresee little or no need (... or market ...) for a resumption of production ... 

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2016, 01:29:02 PM »
My thoughts exactly, Jack!  It's sort of like reproducing Winchester '94's.  Why?!
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2016, 02:16:36 PM »
My thoughts exactly, Jack!  It's sort of like reproducing Winchester '94's.  Why?!


Aye, but they are already reproducing Winchester '94s, in Japan by Miroku, and imported by Browning Arms. The only thing "Winchester" about them is Olin sold rights to use the name Winchester on them.
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2016, 03:25:31 PM »
But in truth, that's 'not' a reproduction as reproductions are commonly viewed.

That's merely a continuation of the factory line - for the factory - albeit done off-shore.

Were they built here - by American workers - no one would want to pay the freight added on by benefits packages and demands, and the company would die.

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2016, 07:47:23 AM »
A few years back some stalwart was drumming Webley Fosberys, also of Pakistan manufactor. Where are these revolvers? Be careful where you send your money!

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2016, 12:32:29 PM »




    Yep! They sure made a lot of those Webleys and they do still show up-even in the 21st century!










 

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