1885 Hi Wall Saddle Ring Carbine

[Pancho Peacemaker]

I'm a fan of the Browning '85 Hi Wall rifle.  I ran across a modern repro advertised as a "Winchester Hi Wall Trapper Carbine" chambered in .45-70.  It's Miroku made.



I've come across pictures and descriptions of '85 saddle ring carbines in the Madis text and at the rare Winchesters sight.



Madis is fairly vague about production numbers of the '85 carbine.  Hi text alludes to the fact that most of the 1885 saddle ring carbines were mostly in low wall configuration, mostly in .32, .38, & .44 WCF.  He states other large caliber cartridges could be ordered in the short 15" barrel saddle ring configuration.  (All of the pictured '85 saddle ring carbines in "The Winchester Book" are .44 WCF chamberings.)

Does anyone have any reference the gives better definition to the history & production of the '85 saddle ring carbine, especially with regards to the heavier hi wall rifle caliber chamberings?

Thanks,

Pancho

[Texas Lawdog]

Pancho, That's a nice looking Ol trapper model. I don't know much about those rifles, it's good to see pictures of the "real thing".