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Offline ColtonWhite

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I dont know much about the inner workings of guns and i was wondering what the real difference was between the old model P and new model P by Cimarron...Thank you for helping...

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Re: Difference between Cimarron Model P Old Model and Pre-War (New Model)
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2010, 06:34:26 AM »
They are basically the same.  There may be some variation in dimensions, but many parts will interchange.
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Re: Difference between Cimarron Model P Old Model and Pre-War (New Model)
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2010, 02:27:15 PM »

I thought i saw something on Cimarron that said they had the trigger lightened and they had made it more durable to last repeated use...maybe i read it wrong.... Thanks for the info

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Re: Difference between Cimarron Model P Old Model and Pre-War (New Model)
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2010, 03:19:47 PM »
Howdy Colton,
I assume you are asking about what Cimarron calls Old Model and Pre-War versions of the Model P.  The Old Model is how Colt made the guns up until the mid 1890's.  It uses a setscrew in the front of the frame to secure the cylinder pin, and the head on the ejector is round, called a bullseye ejector.  Some folks call this the black powder frame (although in modern reproductions, smokeless powder is fine).  The Pre-War version is how Colt made the 1st Generation SAA from mid-1890's until World War 2  This frame uses a spring-loaded transverse push-button to secure the cylinder pin, and the ejector head is a crescent shape.  Also, current Pre-War models from Cimarron have a medallion on the wood grips, and the Old Model guns have no medallions.  Otherwise the guns are identical.  Sights are identical, with a v-shaped rear and tapered front.  They both have coil hand spring.  There are "non-authentic" versions available which have squared front and rear sights, such as the stainless guns and the Evil Roy model  plus the ER has an action job.

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Re: Difference between Cimarron Model P Old Model and Pre-War (New Model)
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 10:21:31 PM »
Thanks a bunch...it sounds like the new model is a bit tougher than old one...but are the new versions visually different from the real 1873 colts?...they look very similar
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Re: Difference between Cimarron Model P Old Model and Pre-War (New Model)
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2010, 05:20:16 PM »
I dont know much about the inner workings of guns and i was wondering what the real difference was between the old model P and new model P by Cimarron...Thank you for helping...

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I too am confused!

Colton are you asking what the difference is between current Cimarron and older Cimarron "Model P's" is on the inside?
The inner workings have been changed. Uberti changed the size of the hammer cam (effecting all the related parts).

If not see Abilene's post above!


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Re: Difference between Cimarron Model P Old Model and Pre-War (New Model)
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2010, 01:50:24 PM »
Colton are you asking what the difference is between current Cimarron and older Cimarron "Model P's" is on the inside?
The inner workings have been changed. Uberti changed the size of the hammer cam (effecting all the related parts).

HH

Hoof - do you have a time frame when that change was made? Also, was there anything other than the hammer cam that changed?

Thanks. DDJ
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