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NCOWS Persona question
« on: July 22, 2009, 08:48:35 PM »
I've been looking at the persona aspect of NCOWS because it looks fun. I've read all sorts of things about the different characters and personas and histories both here and at a number of other sites. One thing I haven't seen is anything about one of the old 'traveling snake oil salesmen' that I've seen in movies or heard of in songs ("I was born in the wagon of a traveling show, my mama had to dance for the money they'd throw..."- Cher).

Are they from a different era? Was there anything that was the equivalent of that during the late 19th century? I seem to recall seeing something about them on the show "Cowboy Tech" on the History Channel but I don't remember what years they were around.

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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 09:05:46 PM »
Medical charlatans have been around as long as any type of legitimate healer has practiced (even today.)

This is a decent review of "snake oil" peddlers:  http://www.csicop.org/sb/9812/snakeoil.html

Also, do a search on phrenology or phrenologist which was a popular compliment to snake oil peddlers for forcasting the future of Victorian contemporaries.

Dr. Bob may chime in here as he has researched the 1800's medical profession very well.

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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2009, 05:44:58 AM »
If you had a small wagon decked out with the proper adornments of a snake oil salesman to set up at the bigger shoots (you could even camp out in it) that would really add some atmosphere to the camp area.

Something else...if you worked up a skit to hawk your wares......and had a pretty young female sidekick helping to sell your elixir....well heck....that would be even better.

A small wagon can easily be built and tailored to events.

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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2009, 06:46:52 AM »
For inspiration for an entertaining snake oil salesman, rent Little Big Man and study Professor Merriwether (Martin Balsam). Just don't start losing body parts :D
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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 09:23:20 AM »
These are some real good - and interesting - tips. Thanks!

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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2009, 09:38:18 AM »
Another good example is the salesman dressed in a white suit and black top hat as seen in 'Josey Wales'. He tries to sell a bottle of his all-purpose fluid to the old Indian, the Indian says "You drink it."
All you would need is a white suit, an old tuxedo will suffice, a black top hat, a collapsible/folding table and some bottles with original labels and colored water The 'pitch' can be a make-it-up-as-you-go parlance or track one down and modify it. Labels have been posted here in the past and River City John can steer you in the right direction for them.
O.C.B. has it right for the wagon and stage if you decide to go the whole sales and entertainment route, there are a few of these folks around that do this type of show and always please the crowd. Do a 'google' and see what you find.
Best regards and "Buy my bottle!"
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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 10:27:09 AM »
If you're gonna sell a bogus oil product, maybe you oughta name your potion Enron.

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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 10:33:49 AM »
On a more serious note, I see by you listing you're in the DFW area.  Why don't you join us at the Texas Ten Horns this weekend?  We shoot a SASS match on Saturday and an NCOWS match on Sunday.  Most of the participants will be there both days, so you could get a chance to discuss your thoughts, get a few questions answered and get a better feel for guns, gear and atmosphere. 

If you're interested in participating but short of gear sent me a private message and we'll get what you need.  I'm in the mid-cities area of DFW, so if you need directions or want to share a ride, just let me know and we'll work something out.

Looking forward to meeting you.

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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2009, 10:57:07 AM »
I'm interested but I already have commitments this weekend. I *will* make it out to see ya'll though!

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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2009, 12:56:47 PM »
Found some good pictures to go with this thread:





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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2009, 01:50:29 PM »
Pancho

Are these before and after photos of your new office?  Don't tell the wife about that new "assistant"!
See ya Saturday.
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2009, 02:18:59 PM »
Those are excellent (and I like Bowler hats)!

Maybe I should hold auditions for the assistant.


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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2009, 08:32:57 PM »
If you had a small wagon decked out with the proper adornments of a snake oil salesman to set up at the bigger shoots (you could even camp out in it) that would really add some atmosphere to the camp area.

Something else...if you worked up a skit to hawk your wares......and had a pretty young female sidekick helping to sell your elixir....well heck....that would be even better.

A small wagon can easily be built and tailored to events.

JMHO

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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2009, 09:29:09 AM »
What!  No rainbows?

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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2009, 11:12:46 AM »
Don't forget the Ruby Red Cowboy Boots


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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2009, 11:13:09 PM »
Greetings My Dear Netizens -

I resemble that remark.

I am, albeit slowly, working up a "gun cart" that will be disguised as my peddlar's push-cart. I intend to to provide a small assortment of period-correct necessities such as gun oil, cleaning fluids, round ball, percussion caps, lye soap, coffee, Lydia Pinkham's Remedies, Carter's Little Liver Pills, needlle, thread, coffee, rolled oats,  sepia picture postcards, etc. ... all old-timey over-the-counter merchandise. See my avatar and signature line.

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OK Professor Marvel,,,,,,we wanna see pictures of you.....and the cart all decked out to the nines, when you get it finished.

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Re: NCOWS Persona question
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2009, 10:33:26 AM »
Don't forget the Ruby Red Cowboy Boots


          ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
With a butterfly hat.  ;)
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2009, 12:31:42 PM »
I had attempted to include a line of rainbow products, ruby-oriented footwear, souvenier yellow bricks, dog-baskets, and lolli-pops and lolli-pop shaped conchos.

However I was completely overcome by the marketing branches and law offices of  MGM, Garland, Baum, et al. Fortunately
Lidia Pinkham and Carter's seem to have passed into public domain, and I have resigned myself to carrying generic hard-candies.
I shudder to even recall the encounter with the local  "Defenders of The Butterflies" led by "The Monarch".

I was hoping to complete the first protoype of my pedalrs' device, and have been searching for my Brownie Box Camera with with I intended to document my results, based on some of these:
http://www.igg.org.uk/gansg/00-app1/trade-st.htm

At first I had delusions of building a wagon, then a cart, now I am hoping to complete at least the "rag and bones man" example.

Unfortunately the work which was formerly proceeding, however agonizingly slowly, has now ground to a halt due to disputes with the labour committee, an "interested outside party", and my evil first cousin:

Thus I am beginning to think I might have little more than the "Muffin Man" ... :-(
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2009, 07:41:25 PM »
Dang no flying monkeys. :'( ;)
Don't get excited about the light at the other end of the tunnel. (It might be another train.)

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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2009, 04:56:19 AM »
http://www.igg.org.uk/gansg/00-app1/trade-st.htm

GREAT SITE  thanks for sharing...

When my Dad was kid, 10 or so years old , circa 1914,  he had tray with a strap as shown , with Tobacco products, matches ,shoelaces and a few hardcandies
He'd board the Train in morning at Ponta Gorda and ride it to Plant City (Florida) and return in the afterrnoon.
He would work passanger cars & train stations all day.

I remember the Ice Cream trikes,  one used to work my neighborhood in the early 50's when I was kid.
Later, the Truck was used and I still see them today. One drops by now and then at my Job 20.
Course, out at the Mouse (Disney World) the quaint Ice Cream carts are all over the place.
And at Christmas Time the Chestnut vendors are out there as well.

when planets align...do the deal !

 

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