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Oddities Guns in films
« on: December 03, 2006, 11:18:09 AM »
I have supplied a few odd guns as an Armorer for films.
But, One has me mystified.

A co-worker and I were discussing Henry's ,Spencer's even Wilford Brimley's Evans In "Crossfire Trail".


He mentions a strange oddity in "The last Outlaw" with Mickey Rourke , I had never seen or heard of this Film.
Seems it was film for TV, a search on IMDB turn up a several  "The last Outlaw" including Rourke's.
In this film , Mickey Rourke's character has an odd firearm....
The Co-work had no idea what it is....
It peaked my interest, but I can't find any account or even the film.

So, pards anybody know what the strange gun it is or was ?

He said it was lever drop action repeating carbine of some sort....
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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2006, 10:28:45 PM »
Good Sir,
 It is ufortunate that I haven't a clue to your questrion. However I would like to say that I realy envy your job. I'll wager that you have a ton of stories that are just waiting to be told. RE: guns in films; what were the guns used in Serenity and what was the basis of the gun that Dekered used in Blade Runner?
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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2006, 06:26:11 AM »
I suppose I should have said "some films"

I might know the answer had I work on the films you requested.
but, alas like The Last Outlaw I did not work that film.

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NORTH & SOUTH trilogy (3)                     Caribe  ( Stacy Ketch )
Glory
Ironclads
Gettysburg
Gods & Generals

To name a few , involve with Guns or Firearms.
some of these, I was the Art Director & or Production Designer.

I was hoping to get this "Last Outlaw" gun nailed down for the colleague, he really wanted to know.
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Re: Oddities Guns in films
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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2006, 09:20:11 AM »
Major
Wasn't trying to put you on the spot, just figured that there was a possiblity that you and others in your line of work talk shop, and the subject might have come up.
BTW I have recently learned that Dekard's gun was concocted from the action of a H&K rifle. Best of luck on your quest.
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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2006, 06:04:25 PM »
No fowl here pard... I'm just sorry I could not answer your question.

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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2007, 08:42:29 PM »
RE: guns in films; what were the guns used in Serenity and what was the basis of the gun that Dekered used in Blade Runner?
That was a Steyr Mannlicher .222 Model SL receiver with a Charter Arms .44 Special Bulldog revolver hidden inside it and a special grip mounted at the bottom.
I find it funny some of the strange gun combinations that work themselves into movies:
Several original M1897 trench guns in "Virus"
Highly-modified M-1A1 Tommy guns and MG-42s in "Aliens"
Just about any Star Wars weapons from the first three films, including the chopped-down Enfield No 4 used to down R2-D2 in the hands of a Jawa

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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2007, 01:39:51 AM »
Odd guns in movies?
Her is a special.Han Solo's laserblaster pistol  was made from a Mauser C-96. :D


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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2007, 11:58:10 AM »
Schwartzenegger's Pobydrym Special (fergot the caliber) was a IMI Desert Eagle in a past life. 
Supposed to the world's "most powerful pistol".

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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2007, 10:39:01 PM »
Schwartzenegger's Pobydrym Special (fergot the caliber) was a IMI Desert Eagle in a past life. 
Supposed to the world's "most powerful pistol".
How about his 1887 in T-2? I won a couple of bar bets with folks who argued that wasn't a real gun, because who (aside from folks like us) ever heard of a lever action shotgun?   :-\

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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2007, 09:07:43 PM »
Captain Lee:

That sounds like a great bar bet.   ;D
I had a feller once tell me the only lever shotguns that EVER existed were the Winchester M9410's (.410). 
And he was a "great white hunter" of sorts who had seen & shot about ever'thang on the planet. 
I never got him to believe there were M-1887's.

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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2007, 12:13:59 PM »
Some of the lasers in the first Star Wars were dummied-up Stirling submachineguns (shot in England, remember) and one Imperial Stormtrooper pack a Lewis machinegun around.

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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2007, 12:24:33 PM »
Major, if you can wait a few days, I just ordered The Last Outlaw from NetFlix.  Should have an answer by the end of the week.
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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2007, 03:55:39 AM »
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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2007, 08:02:27 PM »
Just watched The Last Outlaw.

Roarke takes the marshal's Sharps rifle (with a totally faked up tang sight) and in several scenes it shows him shooting without reloading.  Could be mistaken for a repeater.

The movie has some pretty good special effects...gory, but good.  Filmed in and around Santa fe, NM (Yeah, an American movie).

Some fine horsemanship and some moderately decent acting.  Overlook the obvious stupid moves in the script, lapses of believability in the script, and non-gun-folks errors, that's right: in the script (What is a .45-40...spoken twice or three times...and a .45-44?), plus the announcement at the beginning that the time is 1873 and it's loaded with '75 Remingtons, '73 Colts, '92 Winchesters, etc. and it's at least as good as some of the much better known stuff out there.

!873 and these guys rode together in the Civil War.  Dermott Mulroney's character had to have bee about 12 during the war, but he was good enough to make Lieutenant.

Roarke's character goes throught the whole thing, spanning sevral days, and never needs a shave.

Scale of 1 to 5, I give it a three...four and a half for effects.

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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2007, 08:40:50 PM »
Thank 40... I've yet to see it. I tell my co-worker it's a single shot Sharps , used like a repeater
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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2007, 09:17:14 PM »
Odd guns in movies?
Her is a special.Han Solo's laserblaster pistol  was made from a Mauser C-96. :D


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That's pretty cool.  I never looked closely enough to notice that.



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Re: Oddities Guns in films
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2007, 02:18:43 PM »
RE:The Last Outlaw , The main bad guy has a strange single barrel derringer, looks like a double but has only half leagth one underneath? Uses it afew times in the movie.ONCE INTHE BANK & DURING THE LAST SHOOT-OUT with the good guy.
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