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16 ga. load data for BP
« on: April 08, 2013, 02:41:51 PM »
I can't find any info for my 16 ga.
Can any one help with links or info?
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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 04:09:19 PM »
Hollow Sky Soldier,

Sorry, I can't offer much help on the 16 ga.
I have only loaded and shot 12 ga. BP.
However, if you think down loading some of that info may help you... I will be happy to share.

One other area you might check, "The Parker Collectors' and Shooters Organization  of America". I am not altogether sure if this is the correct name, but you might try several variations within your search.
I hope you find this helpful,
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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 04:27:13 PM »
Hey, Frisco.
Thanks much, that's what I was lookin' for.

Hey, Blair.
Thanks for the input. I also load 12 ga. (for my coach gun) and have them pretty much figured out. I was looking for a good starting point for my 16.
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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2013, 08:56:02 PM »
Hey, Frisco.
Thanks much, that's what I was lookin' for.

Hey, Blair.
Thanks for the input. I also load 12 ga. (for my coach gun) and have them pretty much figured out. I was looking for a good starting point for my 16.

Mostly I use 7/8 oz to 1 oz. of shot with an equal volume of powder OR LESS.  (Basically a 20 gauge load.)

Its all one needs unless hunting.  Then I'd go to 1 1/8 oz and an equal volume of powder.
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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 09:13:49 AM »
What Sir Charles says.  He got it right.  FWIW, I also like to load fiber wads only.  Don't much care to clean out melted plastic.

I've got a couple bags of Remington 16ga empties that take 57* primers and I don't have any 57* primers.  So I'm going to post them for sale in the Classifieds section.

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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 12:44:50 PM »
Fer SS....

FWIW....


I use 1oz of shot and my Holy Black charge is 70gr this is in a brass shell, works well fer me, avoid Plastic cups, Stick to felt type wads, BP and plastic make for a nice goo lined barrel.


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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2013, 06:06:32 AM »
there is a 16Ga society which is interesting stuff if you have a 16Ga, I think that is their name. I don't know if they are into BP, but I suppose a lot of their shotguns would have damascened barrels, so maybe they have.Worth a look anyway.
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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2013, 09:20:45 AM »
Mostly I use 7/8 oz to 1 oz. of shot with an equal volume of powder OR LESS.  (Basically a 20 gauge load.)

I agree with Sir Charles for black powder and, if you use fiber wads, you can easily adjust the wad column for fit.

If you want to load smokeless I would suggest a book called The Sixteen Gauge Manual from  Ballistic Products.  It lists about any recipe you might want.

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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2013, 10:42:06 AM »
16ga.com

A member has several load data tables for almost any choice of 16 ga. suitable components.  There is a "low pressure group" on a subscription basis.  All loads are either gathered from recognized sources or have been submitted to a professional pressure test.


This is a great forum for sixteen gauge lovers.
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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2013, 08:23:33 PM »
Lucky and Sir Charles are right on the money. That is the site and I also have the book, I was trying to think what the title was and where it came from (mine is buried in a pile of junk in my 'office.') Both are excellent resources.

Both worth checking out.

I always been looking for a used 20Ga SxS shotgun and searched without success (they are pretty rare here in Australia and the ones you see are usually high dollar ones).

I have always been curious about 16Ga shotguns after seeing them as a boy realllll cheap as ammo was not available then. I bought a 16 about a year ago, but have had my tail in a sling for a lot of different reasons and haven't used it. I bought a slab of 250 and they mixed hunting and target loads, so I'm good to go ammo wise. Danged if I can get any brass shells and the ammo is expensive, I don't fancy trashing the hulls after a single BP load that would be an expensive process.

The problem might have been solved by my old mate, retiring from shooting, I have bought his 20Ga Grucelli which is looking like a contender for cowboy with brass shotshells and the 16 well be a critter hitter afield. I haven't got the 20 yet, there is some ammo with it apparently(I have a whole passel of slug loads I picked up when I bought a 222/20Ga Savage). So the 20 will be the cowboy iron and the 16 the hunting gun. That's the plan anyway, lol.

I like the idea of the 16, a real link to the old days, a hunting tool which would have bought a lot of food to the table.
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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2013, 10:19:35 PM »
Them 16ga Remington plastic shells went back on my shelf.  Found a guy that had some 57* size primers that he sold to me for a fair price.

The 16ga is probably the best balance of power, pattern and recoil going for SASS shooting.  I have two of 'em.  One's a 97 and the other is a 311.  Love 'em both.  FWIW the 16ga 97 has the same ejection port as the 12ga.  This means over the top feeding is easier.  Now if I could only get my thumbs sorted out.

For loading, I use 1oz of shot and 90% of the same VOLUME of powder.  First goes in primer, then powder, then nitro card wad and fiber cushion wad.  Then shot and over shot card.  I like to close with a nice firm roll crimp.  Lord, lord, love the smoke and flames.  KDs topple, swingers swing and flying clay birds turn to powder if I point well.  Life is good.

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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2013, 01:11:25 PM »
I just cant `get it together` with my 16g 97!! Lord knows I have tried, I am just the wrong shape!!  :-[
So unfortunately I am gonna be selling it. :'(  Its a reeel shame but I dont believe in keepin smokepoles I aint shoot`n. Someone else will definitely  enjoy her more than me

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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2013, 07:50:59 PM »
I just cant `get it together` with my 16g 97!! Lord knows I have tried, I am just the wrong shape!!  :-[
So unfortunately I am gonna be selling it. :'(  Its a reeel shame but I dont believe in keepin smokepoles I aint shoot`n. Someone else will definitely  enjoy her more than me

Now my 16g mule ear double.................... We wuz made fer each other  ;D


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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2013, 01:18:20 PM »
Ho SC....

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Heh! Paladin;  Perhaps the stock is too straight, rather than the cast-off normal for Eurpoean game guns

I actually made meownself another shorter stock but alas it did not help any, didnt wanna give up but `over the top loadin` and ole PUK didn't gel  :(

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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2013, 10:51:56 AM »
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Re: 16 ga. load data for BP
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2013, 10:55:32 AM »
You might try holding the gun to your shoulder with your left hand while reaching down to the shell belt with the right and throw them in one at a time.  You might be able to work up to two at a time but singly can work.  I even saw a guy hit reaction-doubles that way.
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