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STORM / Re: 1866 uberti stains on brass receiver
« Last post by Mako on Today at 01:01:07 AM »
Abilene,
I think I agree with you.  It looks like there may be a coating on the receiver. Sounds like a good cleaning with a lacquer thinner like the Reverend suggested might be called for.  Or you could try a citrus solution like De-solv-it .  Don't use ammonia.

Tayhitman44,
Actually you can speed up the process, I had someone wanting their receiver to look like it was aged and they asked have some of my BP fouling I pushed out of my bores and they made a solution with some water and painted it on a little at a time.

It will look more like Johnson Barr's than mine.  Mine have the pattern from burned/burning black powder scattered from racking an action fast and smoking shells coming out.






Note, the carbine in the second picture has different patina on the side plates than the receiver body.  I actually took readings with a handheld LIBS unit and the side plates are a different alloy than the body.  The original Henry and Winchester receivers were not Brass, they were Bronze, which was called "gun metal" at the time.  Bronze can be very strong and was actually stronger than some of the faux steel (more iron than steel) the early pistols and rifles were made from, especially if they were castings.   The Uberti carbine is two different high strength Brass alloys with very little Tin in them which would make them Bronze.  I think the rifle in the picture above it also has different materials on the side plates looking at the patina difference but I didn't measure that rifle.

What caliber and barrel length did you get?  As you can probably tell I have a things for '66s.

~Mako
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Spencer Shooting Society / Spencer Shooting Society Patch
« Last post by Macon Due on Yesterday at 09:20:15 PM »
Howdy all
Are those yellow/gold patches available for purchase?
Thanks.........Macon Due 29445
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1860 Henry / Re: 1860 Henry Shooter Roll Call (JOIN HERE)
« Last post by Griff on Yesterday at 07:23:44 PM »
:) Hey Griff  ;)
I full well understand your desire.  Me TWO.  However, Don't hold yer breath.  You won't look good in "Dead Blue."  Unfortunately, in all the years I had my Shingle out, I never saw an "Iron Frame" 1860 Carbine.  "If" Uberti makes it for you on special order, you'll be stuck running 45 Schofield cases with 200Gr length or shorter bullets to load 10.  Yule only be able to get Nine and a Half 45 Colt to load.  Bummer.
Coffinmaker, thinkin' positively, WHEN it happens, it's immediately going to Cody for his slickin' up, and installing a C45S carrier.  Since it's likely to happen around the time I win the LOTTO, I'll have lots of time to practice and I'll become the Holy Terror (winningest SASS shooter of all time) of Frontiersman! 
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USFA CSS / Re: 38/40 serial number
« Last post by Buckaroo Lou on Yesterday at 04:00:54 PM »
On USA parts made USFA's the cylinder flutes are not as pointed as on Italian parts guns, the ejector shroud housing cam is longer on USA parts guns, the firing pin is cone shaped on USA parts guns, the front sight is the same thickness from top to bottom on USA parts guns (Government Series guns are the exception), when the loading gate is opened the little hole where the loading gate pivot post goes into the frame is a small triangle and not rectangular or square, and the loading gate pivot arm is thicker on USA parts guns. As I stated earlier good photos of those areas would help. There may be other things one could identify that would help but at the present I cannot think of them.

I do remember one other, the checkering on the hammer spur is cut and not cast I believe.

I am certainly no expert but those are the things I have learned to look for in an attempt to identify USA parts guns from Italian parts guns. Others here probably know other ways to identify them. Somewhere Yahoody posted a article with photos on some of the things I have mentioned but I have been unable to find it. Up in the thumbtack area of this forum is a post by Yahoody about the little hole that shows where the loading gate pivot post fits into the frame.

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Colt Firearms / Re: New old Colt
« Last post by LonesomePigeon on Yesterday at 02:56:06 PM »
Nice black and white photo.
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STORM / Re: 1866 uberti stains on brass receiver
« Last post by Abilene on Yesterday at 01:31:48 PM »
I finally saw the 1st picture since Imgur pics aren't showing up on my laptop. For some years now Uberti ships 1866s with a plastic film over the brass.  Make sure that film isn't still on it.
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1860 Henry / Re: 1860 Henry Shooter Roll Call (JOIN HERE)
« Last post by Coffinmaker on Yesterday at 01:00:09 PM »

 :) Hey Griff  ;)

I full well understand your desire.  Me TWO.  However, Don't hold yer breath.  You won't look good in "Dead Blue."  Unfortunately, in all the years I had my Shingle out, I never saw an "Iron Frame" 1860 Carbine.  "If" Uberti makes it for you on special order, you'll be stuck running 45 Schofield cases with 200Gr length or shorter bullets to load 10.  Yule only be able to get Nine and a Half 45 Colt to load.  Bummer.
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STORM / Re: 1866 uberti stains on brass receiver
« Last post by Johnson Barr on Yesterday at 12:52:31 PM »
I been threatened by members of my Posse to Brasso my Henry.   By Gawd Woodrow thems fightin' words! ;D
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USFA CSS / Re: 38/40 serial number
« Last post by LonesomePigeon on Yesterday at 11:44:13 AM »
The  regular USFA Single Action has a different serial number range from the USFA Pre-War. Any regular SA over 24xxx should be 100% USA but I don't think you can tell anything by the serial number on a Pre-War. The Pre-Wars used a 1st Gen Colt serial number and you could custom order any serial number you wanted, probably anything from 1 to 357000 or so. A Pre-War has to be judged by it features. It's been so long since I actually thought of buying a USFA that I can't really remember what you're supposed to look at. Just going by the fit and finish I would say there's a very good chance that Pre-War .38 WCF is 100% USA but I can't say for sure. If it's unfired and in the box $1800 would be a great deal for a 100% USA made Pre-War.
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1860 Henry / Re: 1860 Henry Shooter Roll Call (JOIN HERE)
« Last post by Cap'n Redneck on Yesterday at 06:54:10 AM »
The "Holy Trinity" came together last week with the addition of a Uberti Henry Carbine in .45 Colt.
It will be fed .45 Schofield smokeless rounds as my main Wild Bunch rifle. 
In a pinch it will also double as a main-match rifle for CAS, as it will hold ten .45 Schofield BP cartridges, albeit with no room for a "gamer stick" then.

My first was a HEGE Uberti Iron Frame Henry Rifle in .44-40 back in 1994. 
It was intended for the 110 yard prone precision discipline in MLAIC.
So it was decked out with a tunnel front sight, a tang sight, military style sling swivels & sling,
and a patch-box in the stock to hold the tunnel sight inserts.
It served me well with open sights for CAS main-match from 1997.
Nowadays it's mostly used for the Lever-action Pistol-caliber Long range sidematch.

The second one was a Uberti Henry Military Rifle in .45 Colt back in 2010ish.
It was immediately put in service as a mainmatch rifle being fed .45 Schofield BP rounds.
I have never felt the need to upgrade to the "Improved" Henry or the later "Gun that won the West".
A humble HEGE Armi Sport / Chiappa Spencer Carbine in .45 Schofield has served as my back-up gun until the Henry Carbine now graces my gun cabinet.

Now, if only HRA or Uberti would get around to making a replica of the Volcanic Navy size pistol in .44 Russian with a factory-installed short-stroke kit so it could be fired Duelist style...? 

The "cool-factor" of a brace of Volcanics, a Henry & an 1887 Winchester would just be off the charts...!  8)
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