Elk Konnected Hand out at County Commissioners meeting on 4/25

Started by Ross, April 26, 2011, 07:00:15 AM

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There's a lot of "living off the government". 

How many "prominent Elk County ranchers" are willing to accept the Federal drought aid?  Can we say that many have already applied for government aid? 

How can Republicans call themselves "conservative" when they're taking advantage and accepting government handouts and aid?  They're not conservative and if elected to government office, they'll take folks' money and spend more of it.




Ross

I have worked at my own expense to provide you with documented information about West Elk USD-282
to help you make better voter decisions.

I feel I might be able to provide more transparency in the governing of the West Elk USD-282 if elected to a board position.

I don't feel Operating a public entity in secrecy is good for the voters and taxpayers or anyone for that matter.

Thank you,
Ross

Ross





Today's Elk County Commissioners Meeting
1/12/2015

Of course I am not going to cover the whole meeting, just something I think would be of interest to a few voters and property tax payers.  Because it is your money being discussed! Besides, I had to leave before the end of the meeting for personal reasons.

After all this is your meeting for use of your taxes.

Commissioner Hebb was elected Chair of the Commission.

At one point during the meeting Commissioner Hebb mentioned a few county employees have not received a pay raise and asked if it was possible for them to get a Cost Of Living Allowance, a COLA.

Commissioner Hebb then made a motion to move $40,000 that is budgeted for an Economic Development Employee, which we don't have, over to the general fund for the purpose of a COLA.

Where Commissioner Liebau said, "We are contemplating hiring a new employee."

Now I have to ask who is we?
Why didn't he say what that position that would employee fill,
Who is WE? I thought he was elected to do the bidding of all the citizens of Elk County?
And that business is suppose to be done at the Board meetings very openly !

Well the Commissioner Kaminska asked, "Are you saying we don't need an Economic Development Employee."

I believe Commissioner Hebb, said we could put the money into the general fund and the put it into various departments.

Commissioner Liebau said the motion dies for lack of a second.

Commissioner Hebb then said, "I change my motion to, We talk to Harley about moving the money to the general fund."

Commissioner Liebau seconded the motion.

Commissioner Kaminiska was the only one that Opposed.

Why?
Why oppose talking to someone to learn something?
For those that don't know Harley is the County's man to go to about the budget.
He is their expert! He is the County Auditor!
Why oppose talking to him?
What good is tying up money budgeted for a position that is not filled?
Is she also contemplating hiring a new employee on her first day on the job?
If so, whom or what position are they contemplating ?
Why aren't they talking about this in this open meeting with the other commissioner?

Are Commissioner Liebau and Commissioner Kaminiska contemplating together?
Are they possibly contemplating with an NGO ?
Time will tell, won't it?

It sure makes for a lot of questions don't it?

Shouldn't all these contemplation's be accomplished openly in the County Commissioners Board Meetings?
That is the purpose of Board Meetings.
Just like the next request of the County Commissioners Board?

Treasurer Rachel D. Ware supported by our County Clerk Vicky Wedman asked openly to hire either a part time or full time employee that they could share between the two departments. This would reduce overtime and provide coverage for either of the two being on vacation or attending meetings or other factors connected with their jobs.

Treasurer Rachel D. Ware and County Clerk Vicky Wedman Terrific Job.
Keep up the good work.


Ross

Let's try a little exercise in critical thinking, shall we?

First I invite you to read this article:

12 Things You Were Not Told About Adolph Hitler
and
Nazi Germany
By DNA

Apparently not everything was totally bad about Hitler, huh?
We know all the bad he did, right?

http://topinfopost.com/2015/01/05/things-you-were-not-told-about-hitler

Now read this article please:

Similarities between Modern U.S.
And
Nazi Germany
as Told by Holocaust Survivor
January 12, 2015 By Elly Maye

"First off, the "love of socialism" in the air."
Dittman recalls Hitler coming to take over and acting as a "savior" for a country in crisis."

http://blessings.buzz/2015/01/12/similarities-between-modern-u-s-and-nazi-germany-as-told-by-holocaust-survivor/

So I ask you who is Elk County's savior?

Who is Elk County's socialists?

Who asks for the taxpayers dollars so they can provide free entertainment for the county's childrem?

Whoa, Isn't taking taxpayer money, even if you call it something else, and using it to give something to someone else called socialism?

If you give away $125,000 to $150,000 out of county coffers, taxpayer coffers, to benefit someone else isn't that called called socialism. Shouldn't that extra money be returned to the taxpayer in the form of lower property taxes?

If it has been proven over a number of years that paying somebody to be the County Economic Development Employee is a waste of taxpayer money, should you continue to waste taxpayer money? Who might benefit from such a waste? Give that just a little thought, please!

What has the local Chamber of Commerce accomplished as far as economic development?

Why would a county commissioner object to the idea of putting together a think tank fo merchants and community leaders to present idea's to the coumty commissioners. Is it because it would not cost the Coun ty more taxpayer money.

Just some thoughts to work on.

Does anyone have any answers?


Ross

(My remarks in parenthesis)

IKEA wants millions in corporate welfare for Memphis store


By Chris Butler | Tennessee Watchdog

MEMPHIS — An unelected board of 11 people in Memphis will soon decide whether to grant $9.5 million in tax incentives to the IKEA corporation. (Would that by chance be an NGO considering giving away taxpayer money? Are they assuming the responsibility of Elected officials? Who the hell are they to have the final say?)

Company officials want to open their first store in Tennessee and are asking city and county officials for that much in corporate welfare through its first 11 years of operation.

These unelected members belong to a joint city/county board, known as the Economic Development Growth Engine, which has the task of expanding economic development programs in Memphis and Shelby County.

Mayors from both the city and the county appoint the 11 board members.

(Is this why we elect people to serve us? So they can shirk their responsibilities by forming an NGO ?
Is Elk County next to experience this exercise?)

http://watchdog.org/192036/ikea/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=trending_3


Ross

I do believe Elk County would be far better off if their School Boards and County Government were manned by normal hard working people who have common sense,

VERSUS

Over educated idiots called elites, who appear to be selfish and wasteful with taxpayers dollars, as liberals are known to do. Liberals do for themselves not for the community. They only use and manipulate the community. This is true of NGO's
as well. They have their own goals and they need the communities money to pay themselves hefty salary's.

It is proven every single day by numerous Governors, Congressmen and other liberals, all the way up to the President.

Just take a look at Yale University and their crying today because of the errors concerning ObamaCare. They were all for the liberal free junk until they got hit with much higher premiums.

Yes there are a bunch of ignorant, arrogant, educated, idiots that would say it okay for everyone else but not for us.
Guess what?
It's good for you too, Yale ! LOL

VIDEO: Harvard Professors Outraged At "Deplorable, Deeply Regressive" Changes. What Lit Their Fuse?
January 16, 2015 By Clark Holmes

Finally, the Ivory Tower is forced to meet the real world.

For years, experts from Harvard have advised presidents and government leaders as to how to reasonably provide health care benefits to the country. Now, when the school must conform and implement that advice itself, the faculty doesn't want to eat its own cooking.

Harvard's health care enrollment guide for 2015 states that the university "must respond to the national trend of rising health care costs, including some driven by health care reform," pertaining to the Affordable Care Act.

Go read the rest of the story and view the video at:
http://viral.buzz/video-harvard-professors-outraged-at-deplorable-deeply-regressive-changes-what-lit-their-fuse/

The experts are upset
in my opinion
because they screwed themselves !
Don't you feel sorry for the over educated idiots called elites?
I bet they are very prominent in their community as well!




Anmar

Quote from: ROSS on January 13, 2015, 01:56:33 PM
(My remarks in parenthesis)

IKEA wants millions in corporate welfare for Memphis store


By Chris Butler | Tennessee Watchdog

MEMPHIS — An unelected board of 11 people in Memphis will soon decide whether to grant $9.5 million in tax incentives to the IKEA corporation. (Would that by chance be an NGO considering giving away taxpayer money? Are they assuming the responsibility of Elected officials? Who the hell are they to have the final say?)

Company officials want to open their first store in Tennessee and are asking city and county officials for that much in corporate welfare through its first 11 years of operation.

These unelected members belong to a joint city/county board, known as the Economic Development Growth Engine, which has the task of expanding economic development programs in Memphis and Shelby County.

Mayors from both the city and the county appoint the 11 board members.

(Is this why we elect people to serve us? So they can shirk their responsibilities by forming an NGO ?
Is Elk County next to experience this exercise?)

http://watchdog.org/192036/ikea/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=trending_3


A board of individuals appointed by the mayor to spend government funds is not an NGO, by definition actually...
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

Ross


Quote from: ROSS on January 13, 2015, 01:56:33 PM
(My remarks in parenthesis)

IKEA wants millions in corporate welfare for Memphis store


By Chris Butler | Tennessee Watchdog

MEMPHIS — An unelected board of 11 people in Memphis will soon decide whether to grant $9.5 million in tax incentives to the IKEA corporation. (Would that by chance be an NGO considering giving away taxpayer money? Are they assuming the responsibility of Elected officials? Who the hell are they to have the final say?)

Company officials want to open their first store in Tennessee and are asking city and county officials for that much in corporate welfare through its first 11 years of operation.

These unelected members belong to a joint city/county board, known as the Economic Development Growth Engine, which has the task of expanding economic development programs in Memphis and Shelby County.

Mayors from both the city and the county appoint the 11 board members.

(Is this why we elect people to serve us? So they can shirk their responsibilities by forming an NGO ?
Is Elk County next to experience this exercise?)

http://watchdog.org/192036/ikea/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=trending_3

Quote from: Anmar on January 17, 2015, 05:18:26 PM

A board of individuals appointed by the mayor to spend government funds is not an NGO, by definition actually...

By definition of  Merriam –Webster and Wikipedia they are.

Merriam – Webster Dictionary
Definition of NGO
nongovernmental organization

Merriam – Webster Dictionary
NGO abbreviation
Learner's definition of NGO
nongovernmental organization

Non-governmental organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-governmental_organization 
A non-governmental organization (NGO) is the term commonly used for an organization that is neither a part of a government nor a conventional for-profit business.

I assume you are applying semantics in the some sort of politically correct way.
But just the same, the way I have applied NGO is correct !
Because people appointed and organized by government are not elected officials nor government hired employees, therefore an NGO. Which leaving the elected officials not doing what they are elected to do.

Either way it is just semantics.

Merriam – Webster Dictionary
se·man·tics noun plural but singular or plural in construction \si-ˈman-tiks\
: the study of the meanings of words and phrases in language

: the meanings of words and phrases in a particular context

Therefore the way I have applied NGO is correct !

Ross


Anmar

If by politically correct you mean actual usage, then yes.  A government committee can not be non-governmental.  Just because they are not elected doesn't mean they are not a government entity.  They are part of the government!
"The chief source of problems is solutions"


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