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Offline Rowdy Fulcher

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #100 on: March 20, 2016, 04:01:07 pm »
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The 87 in a China made gun . It is not mine it is the proto type . I guess you can say I am doing the R & D work . So far everything is looking good . It has a 26 inch barrel with choke tubes . After Turkey season is over I will send my shotgun to have it changed . I originally wanted a 30 inch barrel , but the 26 sure is handy in the field .
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #101 on: March 28, 2016, 07:32:43 pm »
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Well the 26 inch barrel had a problem . It shot LOW and to the RIGHT real low at 30+ yards . So Frog replaced the barrel and it is hitting the target with more than 6 pellets at 30 yards . That's right 6 pellets at thirty yards . Well the barrel that's on it now delivers lots of shot to the Target . It's a 28 inch barrel and it has tubes .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #102 on: March 29, 2016, 12:03:04 am »
Well Rowdy, It's been a journey. I hope you are nearing your objective, to bag a vintage turkey. Woops that should be a tasty turkey taken with a vintage gun.  Good Hunting, Pard.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #103 on: March 29, 2016, 05:23:51 pm »
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After work I patterned my shotgun at 25 yards and 30 yards .  It will take a Turkey at 30 yards with no problem . The targets have the spine and the brain printed so you can tell if you have a killing shot . Will try 40 yards next time .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #104 on: March 29, 2016, 08:34:38 pm »
Well when you guys get these changes worked out, let us know the finals on how we can get this done too, if possible.

But in the mean time is this Frog (guy doing the work from comments in NCOWS post) creating an all new barrel; using an original winchester barrel; knows of a brand/model that is easily fit on to the 87 receiver or is welding sections to the Chinese barrel already on the shotgun?

Just curious how he replaced the 26 with a 28 'so fast', when nothing was available before.

Was your 87 one of the IAC Coyote Caps guns or one of the new Century Arms 87's?  The reason for asking is the new Century has three lines of text on the left side and one long line of text on the right side.  How did he get that off the receiver in order to engrave the WRA Co emblem.  That is so neat to see on this copy.

Still really glad it is working out for you.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #105 on: April 01, 2016, 04:38:43 pm »
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The 28 inch barrel was a barrel Frog had waiting for bluing . He went with the 26 inch barrel because the other wasn't blued yet . BUT the 26 was the original barrel with a barrel extension added on . And it didn't work out . Now the 28 inch barrel shoots real nice groups at 30 yards , plan on trying it out to 40 yards this weekend . Turkey season is almost here and I am excited about having the 87 to Hunt with . The one thing I like about the 87 is cleaning  it . You can push all the crud down the barrel instead of back into the action .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #106 on: April 01, 2016, 05:09:24 pm »
Rowdy. I take it that you don't plan on waiting until Thanksgiving to dine on wild turkey! :)

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #107 on: April 02, 2016, 10:54:41 am »
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Yes sir , I plan on eating fresh Turkey on April 16 opening day of season . That will make for a delicious supper .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #108 on: April 03, 2016, 11:37:04 am »
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Got a chance to shoot today . Sat my targets at 35 and 40 yards . The 87 using black powder loads patterned out to 40 yards I had multiple pellets in the kill zone . Now with that said I want to get my turkeys into the 30 yard range if I can . But I would take a 40 yard shot if he won't come any closer .
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #109 on: April 08, 2016, 04:37:26 pm »
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Well the 87 is ready for Hunting . The ammo is loaded and packed away in my hunting bag with my Turkey calls . Season is a week away , I am ready .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #110 on: April 12, 2016, 04:23:33 pm »
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What's your favorite shotgun for Turkey Hunting . Also what size shot do you like ?

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #111 on: April 13, 2016, 11:15:38 am »
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What's your favorite shotgun for Turkey Hunting . Also what size shot do you like ?

Unfortunately, I've never been. Which is a shame, because there's a ton of Turkeys on my in-laws' property. Lots of chances to do so, just never had the time.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #112 on: April 15, 2016, 06:03:30 pm »
Best of luck for tomorrow Rowdy.

Good hunting.

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #113 on: April 30, 2016, 06:40:44 pm »
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No Turkey yet . The weather this weekend was WET . Mud was deep , even hung my Cherokee up . Only seen a couple birds but at a distance of about 300 yards .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #114 on: May 09, 2016, 04:38:30 pm »
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No Turkey this Spring . I hunted as much as possible . Really was wanting to take one with the long barreled 87 . I have shot several good groups prior to season . Oh well there is the fall season , and yes I will be there waiting on a Turkey . And armed with a long barreled 87 loaded up with 3 black powder 12 gauge shells . Who knows I might even load up a few shells with Olde E ?

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #115 on: May 09, 2016, 05:01:02 pm »
You need to come to my in-Laws farm. I see at least 5 or 6 each time we go to visit, hanging out in a field, just as happy as a group of a clams.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #116 on: May 11, 2016, 03:21:08 pm »
Ya know Rowdy. More and more I'm enjoying best the pleasure of hunting, rather than getting my prey. Enjoy your hunting.
PS. But I still wish you to get a good gobbler with one of your favorite guns.  ;D

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #117 on: May 13, 2016, 06:52:54 pm »
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Thanks for the encouragement . I was really disappointed that I didn't get a Turkey . I had the shotgun that I thought was perfect for Turkey hunting and it is ,but between floods and having to work for a living well I just didn't shoot nothing . But there was something very special that happened my daughter had her first child so we are Grandparents now . And yes I was out turkey hunting when I got the call she was in labor . I kicked it into Death march mode walking out and made it to the hospital in time .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #118 on: May 14, 2016, 01:54:32 am »
Well! Congratulations Grandpa!  ;)

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #119 on: May 15, 2016, 12:00:04 pm »
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Thanks I remember all the things I did with my grandpa and LOVED every minute of it  ,
 I have loaded my shotgun shells using paper hulls . And after a season with LOTS OF RAIN I am going to try a Remington nitro hull . I have loaded 6 rounds using olde E 2f powder . This is a heavy load that give great results out to 40 yards with the paper hulls . I am preparing now for the fall season .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #120 on: May 15, 2016, 04:37:32 pm »
Curious facts about the "Turkey" bird:

First. You are lucky to have access to wild turkeys. I live in Europe, and the turkey is an American bird. We have turkeys yes, but not of the wild variety.

The first Europeans to meet the bird were the Spaniards, in Mexico, in the early XVIth century. The Aztecs had already tamed them and the Spaniards readily adopted the big tasty bird and introduced them in Europe.

All the European Nations started breeding the bird, but, all of them named it erroneously.
In Portugal we thought the bird was coming from the Spanish colonies of Peru. And so, that's  what we call it. Originally, the Peru chicken. Nowadays we just call it peru. The French, they knew it came from somewhere in the New World, then called the West Indies, and so they simply called it l'oiseau d'Inde , meaning the bird from India, simplified nowadays to dindon. The English, were at the time in war with the Spaniards. So, their birds arrived by a sort of backdoor. It was the Mediterranean traders that started their trade route in Turkey that brought the bird into England. It ended up being known as the Turkey bird, turkey for short.

During the rest of the XVIth century the whatever you call it bird became so popular that the first English settlers in Northern America took specimens with them to introduce it to the New World.  :o    ::)  ;D It was a great surprise when the call of their captive tamed turkeys was answered by their wild brethren in the woods.  ;D
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #121 on: May 15, 2016, 07:00:38 pm »
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Here is a picture of the long barrel after shooting . It has a nice pattern at 40 yards .
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #122 on: May 18, 2016, 04:30:12 pm »
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This long barreled 87 was re barreled by Frog . He did an Excellent job . He is still trying to find a supply of 30 inch barrels , still looking . He has a supply of 28 inch barrels . Wonder how a 87 would work for Trap ?

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #123 on: May 28, 2016, 11:02:48 am »
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Well the 2016 Spring Turkey season is over . But we will be trying again in the Fall to take a Turkey with the 87 and a black powder load . I will be loading old E for the fall Hunt .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #124 on: August 08, 2016, 09:27:20 pm »
Howdy
Fall squirrel season starts Aug 20 . So grab your shotgun and your skitter spray and head to the woods . squirrel is good eating .