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Offline Rowdy Fulcher

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Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« on: November 12, 2013, 07:31:44 pm »
Howdy
The shotgun was the weapon that kept the family from starving . What Shotgun are you using and do you Hunt with it ?

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2013, 06:10:33 pm »
Hi Rowdy,
I normally hunt with my L.C. Smith double or the ol' 97, both in 16 gauge.  But this year I went dove hunting with my 10 gauge muzzleloader.  Loaded 1 oz of 7 1/2 in front of 85 grains of 2f.  I did "OK" but the fun factor was off the charts.

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2013, 06:57:51 pm »
In have hunted with a Spartan Coach Gun but usually use an old 311. Both are 12 ga.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2013, 05:04:04 am »
I started CAS with the Stoeger Uplander that I'd been hunting with for years. I also used it for trap, skeet, & sporting clays in a league I've been shooting in for years. When I finally broke/wore out that gun, I replaced it with a Stoeger Coach Gun. I've only been shooting it 3 or 4 years, but it's given good service in CAS & has killed quite a few bird & broke a lot of rocks.

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2013, 08:33:18 am »
I use an old Remington double with the hammers and all fer rabbits. I use an old Ithaca double with the hammers(first model cartridge gun they made referred to as the cannon breech).
Both use black powder loads I make since they have damascus barrels. Barrels in really good shape. Don't want to fire those kinda barrels with any sort of pits or such......just the ones with very good barrels.
I've used a Rossi shotgun double with the hammers,"The Overlander", a good bit since the mid eighties and love that gun. It naturally can handle the smokeless loads that are out there. I load smokeless 3 drams loads with 1 1/8th oz.of no.6 shot fer that or the black with 70 or 90gr. FFFg powder and a 1 1/8th oz. shot no. 6..
There's nothing finer than a good ole double fer upland hunting.  ;D
I've picked up some sorta Russian (I thunk) double with the hammers in 16 gauge. Supposedly it's like a newer antique that handles smokeless loads. Can't get any info on it and the Russian words/numbers (from under the barrels) I had interpretated don't tell me anything at all.
I figger I'll just go with the black in it to stay safe till I find some info on the gun. Supposedly it's from the late 1800's early 1900's. The gun shop owner say's he shot it (tested) with factory smokeless loads since he figures it's from the early smokeless era.

I bought a nice double with the name K&D Folsom Arms Co. NY USA on it......nice large engraving on it. Damascus barrels I won't shoot even with the black since there's too much wear in the barrels. it had two bursts in one barrel towaend so I cut about four inches of that off the 30 inch barrels. I plan to have the barrels relined to 28 gauge like barrels inside the barrels.
Anywhoooo....I've hunted with an old Winchester Model 97 too. That is a nice huntin gun.
I se a Pedersoli Doble muzzleloader shotgun too. Those are alright ifin you get a good load fer them. Because ofthe donut type patterns they shoot I use them in a way to hit the game with the ring of shot. Shoot a lil "off" to hit.  ???

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 09:40:37 pm »
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Has anyone used a 87 with slugs . A 87 with slugs would be a woods cannon . I have never loaded a bp slug . I assume they had slugs in the 1800's .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 12:24:37 am »
Rifle;  Check this out for your "sorta Russian";

http://www.shotguns.se/html/russia.html
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 07:10:22 am »
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Has anyone used a 87 with slugs . A 87 with slugs would be a woods cannon . I have never loaded a bp slug . I assume they had slugs in the 1800's .

I don't have an 87 but I do shoot some slugs. My slugs are .69 round balls as was common in the past.  They fit with a lubed patch in my muzzle loader & plastic cases & wads for modern guns. Range is about 40 yards with a smooth bore. Shot some through a rifled barrel once & got a nice group at 100 yards.

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 07:18:12 pm »
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 I have a 87 shotgun that I enjoy . But it's got a 20 inch barrel for cas . I think it will work  for quail hunting hope to kill a few birds this winter with it . Do we have any Quail Hunters out there .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2013, 11:28:37 am »
El Tio: A 97 in 16 gauge ...  :D

Love to see a "likeness" of your 10-gauge percussion double.

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2013, 08:18:31 am »
I got 2 Remington hammer doubles (Damascus), used the one for many years for ducks, geese and even one deer.  My favorite is a 10 gauge  muzzle loader that I built out of an old ctg gun.  It is by far my favorite to use on geese and it does wonders.  5 drams of FFg/2 ounces of shot.  Kicks like HELL but does the job.  Les Bauska told me once that he thought that I was out'a my mind--more or less in those words and if you knew him they wern't those same words.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2013, 10:19:29 am »
Howdy
 I have a 87 shotgun that I enjoy . But it's got a 20 inch barrel for cas . I think it will work  for quail hunting hope to kill a few birds this winter with it . Do we have any Quail Hunters out there .

Hi

In Kansas and Oklahoma, we have hunters, but due to the droughts in the past few, we don't have as many quail.  I worked with a guy back in the 1980's who said quail hunting was boring.  Drive to Western Kansas, start hunting at dawn, shoot your limit before 11 AM, and drive home.  Limit was 8 Pheasant and 16 Quail back then.

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2013, 04:34:22 pm »
Hi

In Kansas and Oklahoma, we have hunters, but due to the droughts in the past few, we don't have as many quail.  I worked with a guy back in the 1980's who said quail hunting was boring.  Drive to Western Kansas, start hunting at dawn, shoot your limit before 11 AM, and drive home.  Limit was 8 Pheasant and 16 Quail back then.

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2013, 05:41:03 pm »
Whoops ignore me posted in the wrong place.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 05:24:33 pm »
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I hope everyone has a successful Hunt tomorrow .  Good Luck and Happy Hunting .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2013, 10:43:49 am »
Howdy
The 1878 is a Excellent choice for Turkey Hunting .
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2013, 09:41:39 am »
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The TTN 1878 with choke tubes work great for hunting . But the ammo is just as important . Here is apicture of a test target at 40 yards .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2013, 03:42:21 pm »
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 here is picture from 2008

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2013, 03:21:20 pm »
Nice!

Yesterday, coming out of dad's place, there were three white tails standing in the middle of the road at about 3:00 pm.  Wanted to slit my wrists. 

I have an 1878 repro with 26 inch barrels.  I just acquired some brass casings and when I get those loaded I will be hunting boar with it.  I doubt it will be anytime soon, my life has been upside down for the last few months.  New work assignment, death in family, kid home from a 2 year mission then to school (Just one month with him--I am going out with him to get him enrolled--likely the last trip he and I take before he settles down into his own life).  I cannot get out to shoot at all.  I figure in January I may make it out. 

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2013, 05:05:18 pm »
I know a guy in his 90's that shoots a Remington 1100.  Is that vintage hunting?

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2013, 05:15:05 pm »
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Well the 1100 isn't considered a vintage shotgun ,BUT a 90 year old Hunter is . Keep him in the field ,keep him HAPPY .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2013, 11:20:54 pm »
Huskvarna double with ears and brass shells,horn buttplate and ivory front site,ain't shot it yet but that will change in 2014,i love my shootgun! ;D



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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2013, 08:25:55 pm »
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That's a fine looking shotgun . Thanks for sharing the pictures with us .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2013, 08:32:14 pm »
Has a greener lock up too.All i need to do is shoot it~Wolfgang helped me get that one. :)

Where do you live Rowdy,that's a fine lookin turkey too!I have yet to hang a lip over wild turkey! :( The closest i ever got was farm raised once,the breast on that thing was huge and we deep pitted it,boy was that good!
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2013, 11:36:59 am »
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I am a Kentuckian . The Wild Turkey is the best of eating . My wife likes Turkey and she will eat Deer as long as it's not a large Buck in Rut . The young does  or the button Bucks are excellent eating . Hope you get a chance to get a Turkey with your double barrel good luck and Happy Hunting .