Changes to Uberti's "1858" that occurred in 2007

[Indian Outlaw]

I noticed this a few weeks ago when I purchased a 2012 Uberti. The lines are different from the 2006 Uberti I used to own.

1. The grip shape and angle are different. The 2007 (and newer) guns have more room behind the trigger guard, and the grip angles backward just a tad.
 
2. The frame is a bit taller (in the vertical direction) on the revised 2007 model. This is because the cylinder window is larger to accommodate Uberti's .45 Colt conversion cylinder. This makes the stepdown from the frame to the barrel, a bit sharper.

3. More barrel threads are visible on the revised 2007 model.

4. The 2007's frame is forged. The older frames are castings.

These changes coincide with the introduction of Uberti's 1858 cartridge conversion.

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

The cylinder notches and locking bolt are wider as well.

[hellgate]

Geeze, now I gotta go downstairs and check the date of manufacture on my two. .............5 min break..... BN, = year 2000. No wonder they were called the "Millenium" finish (matte black, not blued). Gads, I didn't think I'd had them THAT long. Boy, time flies when you're having fun.

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[PJ Hardtack]

I have a late model Pietta Remington and it has a larger area behind the trigger guard compared to my older Remingtons. It's much like that of my Taylor's Remington .44-40 conversions.

This makes it more comfortable to shoot with the .45 Colt Kirst cylinder that came fitted to the gun.

[Indian Outlaw]

I have a late model Pietta Remington and it has a larger area behind the trigger guard compared to my older Remingtons. It's much like that of my Taylor's Remington .44-40 conversions.

This makes it more comfortable to shoot with the .45 Colt Kirst cylinder that came fitted to the gun.

Uberti has used, as far as I can tell, three different grip shapes for the Remington New Model Army/Navy. Their first grip was almost identical to the original Remington grip. You can see it on old guns from the 60s and early-to-mid 70s. My '71 Lyman has that grip. At some point, they elongated the grip, which you can see in the "Pre 2007" picture above. Then, in late 2006/early 2007, they changed it again.

Pietta has used at least three different grip shapes. The most recent change occurred several years ago and was primarily a change in grip angle.

[hellgate]

Maybe the Euroarms Remmies have the original shaped (smaller) grip. They are very light weight and smaller gripped compared to the Ubertis and especially smaller vs the Piettas.

[Indian Outlaw]

I laid my 2013 Pietta next to my 2012 Uberti and was pretty shocked at the differences in size and contours. The Pietta is beefier pretty much everywhere. The Pietta triggerguard is almost twice as thick as an original Remington's. And Pietta's grip looks really weird to my eye, as does the step-down to the barrel. I like the lines of the Uberti much better.