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Abraham Lincoln
« on: June 15, 2012, 12:44:19 AM »
Ok, I know Hollyweird is hurting for new action heros, but, Lincoln as a VAMPIRE HUNTER?!?!?!?! It is just strange enough for me to want to see it when it hits video...
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Re: Abraham Lincoln
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2012, 05:52:35 AM »
When Abe was talking about preserving the Union, you really didn't think he was talking about the North and the South struggle did you???!!! 

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Re: Abraham Lincoln
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 09:36:56 AM »
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Re: Abraham Lincoln
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2012, 09:43:02 AM »
My son read the book, by the same author as Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, and said it was great, but has doubts about the movie.  I will see it however.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2012, 04:29:12 PM »
OK, take it for what it is as I have no dog in this fight...
Seen this afternoon, Friday, June 15th, 2012:

Saturday, February 11, 2012
"Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" Preview at Presidential Library

Vampires invaded the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library in Springfield, Illinois last night. Their mission: to promote the upcoming film, Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter, which will be released in 3D in theaters on June 22nd.

Director Timur Bekmambetov, star Benjamin Walker, producer Jim Lemley, and screenwriter Seth Grahame-Smith were among the delegation presenting a preview of the film, which included an as-of-yet unreleased movie trailer and excerpts from the film, which is currently in post-production.

Dave Blanchette, spokesman for the museum, said the movie will be a rare opportunity for the presidential museum to reach a new audience.

“It’s a way to open the door for people who might not have an interest in Lincoln,” Blanchette said. “They might get interested in the film and decide they want to learn more about Lincoln.”

Of course, the real Lincoln wasn't an axe-wielding martial arts expert.

“It’s going to be very bloody,” Grahame-Smith told the crowd during a question-and-answer session.

But the screenwriter (and author of the original book) asserted that their goal was not to mock the president. “You have to have reverence for the real history,” Grahame-Smith said. “The man was a real man who is still extraordinarily revered in today’s world, especially in this country and by all of us. That, to me personally, was the line: never make the guy look like an idiot.”

Grahame-Smith also took issue with another recent depiction of vampires -- in the Twilight series. Vampires should be villains, he said.

“[Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter] puts vampires back where they belong: as bad guys, not heartthrobs. They should be beheaded with an ax, not kissed by tweens.”

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Re: Abraham Lincoln
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 08:41:58 AM »
My son gave me the book for Father's Day.  I haven't started it yet, but he says it's so well written you won't believe that Abraham Lincoln wasn't a vampire hunter.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2012, 07:06:12 PM »
My son gave me the book for Father's Day.  I haven't started it yet, but he says it's so well written you won't believe that Abraham Lincoln wasn't a vampire hunter.
 

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Re: Abraham Lincoln
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2012, 10:45:45 AM »
Another interesting article on the Abe movie, enjoy.
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P.S., had a relative on my Mom's side serve with John Paul Jones, maybe I could be in that movie, hmmm?
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Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter': A New Era of Tall Tales
By Brian Salisbury , Hollywood.com Staff | Tuesday, June 19, 2012

This weekend, everything you learned in history class takes a backseat to blockbuster entertainment as Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter unleashes itself upon the masses. It’s the story of our nation’s sixteenth president and his secret campaign against the bloodsucking undead. This is not the first fantastical cinematic recasting of historical figures. Earlier this year, James McTeigue’s The Raven offered the supposition that Edgar Allen Poe not only wrote chilling horror stories, but also matched wits with serial killers. Nor will Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter be the last example of this trend. Later this year, we’ll see FDR: American Badass, in which Franklin Roosevelt hunts werewolves, and there’s even talks of a pending movie in which sailor John Paul Jones battles sea monsters.

So what’s the deal with all these history/fantasy mash-ups? Did Inglourious Basterds instill in us a desire to revise history to more satisfying ends? Are we so desperate for twists on familiar movie tropes that we have begun trying to incorporate them into historical context simply to lend them some sort of added subconscious legitimacy? It’s not as if there weren’t enough movies hitting theaters this summer that we absolutely needed a high concept action horror film to entice people to the multiplexes.

It could be that this new craze is the natural evolution of something that’s been a part of our shared national heritage for hundreds of years: the tall tale. There was a time—before the inception of social media, the Internet, or even film itself—in which people would hand down these fish stories of legendary figures accomplishing unbelievable deeds or facing down incalculable odds. Characters like Johnny Appleseed, Paul Bunyan, Calamity Jane, and John Henry became American folk heroes. Their feats and their stories were mythic and they were born of the frontier spirit. They were fearless, self-reliant, and possessed of either gargantuan stature or inhuman strength; thematically communicating the zeitgeist of manifest destiny and pioneer survival.

Most interesting about folk heroes, the fodder of tall tales, is the instances wherein tall tales and history begin to overlap like a Venn diagram of fiction and fact. The best example of this crossover has to be Texan hero Davy Crockett. His actions during the battle of the Alamo canonized him into American folklore. ALTYet, if you believe the folksong, he also killed a bear at age three. Even though some of the finer details of his exploits are the subject of controversy, the fact remains that there is documented proof of his existence; a (once) living legend.

Take a slight step further and arrive at one of history’s greatest leaders: Abraham Lincoln. This is a man who saved a young nation from being ripped apart by secession and took the first decisive steps toward racial equality; eradicating generations of bondage and oppression. So why then add a fictive vampire hunting hobby to the man’s story? It’s possible that his actual deeds are so heroic that they had to amplify his legend with genre trappings in order to market it to modern audiences. Our need for heroes has advanced to the point that we begin retrofitting comic book sensibilities to even those figures who once earned monuments by virtue of their actual accomplishments.

Yet therein lies the catalyst for the evolution of the tall tale. The boundaries of our nation became tangible, the qualities we admired shifted, and eventually tall tales became so tall they were able to leap buildings in a single bound. As comic books began to redefine heroism, they actually began to push the concept of a tall tale into a more exaggerated and graphically pronounced medium. Leave that to stew for a few decades and superheroes are the new representations of mythic idealism. Spandex-clad folk heroes, their metaphor-laden origins and spectacular talents becoming pop culture lore as they move from the confines of literature to the silver screen. But it’s reaching a tipping point now wherein superhero films are so ubiquitous that the tall tales they weave are losing their appeal. The larger-than-life factor, a requisite for the tall tale, is taken for granted.

Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter, and all historical fantasies of that ilk, is both a look backward at what used to distinguish a folk hero and the next logical stage of development in the evolution of the tall tale. Now, if they could only get that Johnny Appleseed: Zombie Slayer off the ground, we’d be in business.


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Re: Abraham Lincoln
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2012, 01:54:21 PM »
Well, my son, who loved the book, saw the movie and hated it.  Told me not to waste my time.  I guess the author was instrumental in the screen play too, and my boy can't figure out why he would screw it up so much.

 

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