Monday, So it is a 58 Remington

[Curley Cole]

Here are a couple of shots of a 58 Remington, like was requested. The guns were supposed to be back from EOT, but were not (Including a couple of engraved ones by Kelley Lassiter) so there will be another Photo session soon.

The other gun was a 50 cal double bbl like one used by Michael Douglas in a movie...can't remember the name right now.
more posts soon..

curley

[Cimarron Lawman]

Thanks Curley.

How did the 1858 look to you? I'm trying to decide between the EMF and the Cabela's, which is $90 cheaper. If the EMF isn't any better, then I'll get the less expensive one.

[Curley Cole]

Howdy
I haven't seen the Cabellas gun or held it. I have to say the EMF the finish is really smooth. I really liked the looks of it. Debbie said most of their guns have slightly darker grips than this one. The action on it was smooth as glass, almost like cocking a GW2. The only negative I had was the proof marks on the right side of the gun. I would buy it in a minute.

As for difference in price, I can only say this. If you ever have any problems with the gun EMF will bend over backwards to make it right for you. Cabellas is a good place but I don't know what their customer service is like.

That is how I see it. I hope it helps.

Curley

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[Professor Marvel]

Greetings Gentlemen -
Thanks for the photos.
The Howdah is similar to the one carried by the African hunter Charles Remington (played by Michael Douglas) in the film The Ghost and the Darkness. The film is based on actual incidents experienced by Lieutenant Colonel John Henry Patterson.  I have a copy of his book The Man-Eaters of Tsavo. The Remington character was actually was Anglo-Indian named Charles Ryall.  I have often seen the two lions killed by Patterson as they are on display at the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago. They are a breed of particluarly agressive maneless lions.

Howdy
I haven't seen the Cabellas gun or held it. I have to say the EMF the finish is really smooth.

I currently have 3 of the Cabelas Pietta Remingtons, and I am quite pleased with them. The finish is a nice dark blue, and the actions are "acceptable" or better. The Piettas often need some minor tuning, directions for which can be found in the archives here. If one does not mind a little project I think the Cabelas Piettas are a great value. Cabelas also has spare cylinders and parts kits, but the bolt/trigger spring and mainspring in the kit are somewhat pathetic.

your humble servant
Prof Marvel

[Cimarron Lawman]

Howdy
The action on it was smooth as glass, almost like cocking a GW2.

Hmm ... I wonder if EMF specifies a lighter mainspring. The Pietta/Traditions stainless 1858 at the local Gander Mountain has a mainspring designed for Godzilla.

[Curley Cole]

Can't say about the other ones, but the one from EMF that I held and did pix of was very smooth..

good shootin

PS I took my engraved GW's out last weekend and shot a match, and they were very nice...comfortable in the hand. and the Buffalo Bros grips fit like a dream...

curley

[delmar]

I currently have 3 of the Cabelas Pietta Remingtons, and I am quite pleased with them. The finish is a nice dark blue, and the actions are "acceptable" or better. The Piettas often need some minor tuning, directions for which can be found in the archives here. If one does not mind a little project I think the Cabelas Piettas are a great value. Cabelas also has spare cylinders and parts kits, but the bolt/trigger spring and mainspring in the kit are somewhat pathetic.

your humble servant
Prof Marvel

I did a word search but haven't found the directions for fine tuning the 1858. Anybody know where to look?

[44caliberkid]

Pretty much the same as tuning an SAA.   You can narrow, thin, and polish the mainspring.   That will probably make you happy.  Lube the pins and holes while you have it apart.   The lighter mainspring will also give you a little better trigger, except for creep and I doubt you'll really have objectionable creep. (My wife married one)

[Professor Marvel]

I did a word search but haven't found the directions for fine tuning the 1858. Anybody know where to look?

try these
http://www.alliancelink.com/srrs/
http://www.hobbygunsmith.com/Archives/Dec03/index.htm
http://www.time-slice.com/mohave.gambler/favorites/Remington/remington.htm

yhs
prof marvel

[delmar]

try these
http://www.alliancelink.com/srrs/
http://www.hobbygunsmith.com/Archives/Dec03/index.htm
http://www.time-slice.com/mohave.gambler/favorites/Remington/remington.htm

yhs
prof marvel

thanks professor! I book marked those pages so I can find them in the future. I was fasinated
to see that mohave gambler installed a kirst konverter in a brass frame 58. Everyone I talk to says that's a no no!

[Professor Marvel]

thanks professor! I book marked those pages so I can find them in the future. I was fasinated
to see that mohave gambler installed a kirst konverter in a brass frame 58. Everyone I talk to says that's a no no!

I must apologise, as I was certain that cascity had articles on tuning the remmy.... With the authors' approval, the colt open top
articles (amongst others) have been archived on The Open Range forum (shameless plug for another excellent forum !)

Mojave Gambler had quite an endevour going in his free online magazine  "Hobby Gunsmithing", it is a shame that it did not "pan out", probably due to the costs .... an entire index is here: http://www.hobbygunsmith.com/Archives.htm

Regarding the Konverter in a Brass Frame -  Initially Mojave Gambler indicated that he felt it would be" OK" since he was using a .45 acp cylinder and he intended to use ONLY BP, making for a reduced load. However, after publishing this work, he mentions that he had an interview with Walt Kirst  and after  a pleasant conversation posted this retraction:
http://www.hobbygunsmith.com/Archives/Apr03/Profile.htm

It is a wise move, whilst it may never cause a catastrophic event,  One never knows who will "slip" some smokeless .45 ACP in a cylinder "because they can".  The days of litigation over various personal stupidity are upon us and "Good Old Days" of Elmer Keith blowing the cylinder and topstrap off his Colt SAA with no other outcome than deafness are over -

( having just finished reading excerpts of Elmer Kieth's books  wherein the Illustrious Elmer discusses blowing up several Colts model P revolvers in .45 Colt . If  I read it correctly he seemed to have blown one such revolver with heavily compressed BP and a very heavy (perhaps 300 gr) lead bullet. - the thin-ness of the .45 cylinder walls seems to have led him to switch to the .44 spcl for further experimentation)

Many people, myself included, have experienced Brass Frame "frame stretch" after using many many Warthog loads in brass framed .44's.  I have personally found that with 35-40 gr FFF The Remington brass frame will eventually distort, and the Colt Brass frame in .44 will eventually experience wear/ loosening of the Arbor/frame fit. (your mileage may vary) . In my experience, somewhat milder loads are just as enjoyable and with roundball lead to a longer brass frame life and often a more efficacious outcome.

yhs
prof marvel