I shoot 38 special, 357 mag,38 colt, 38 S&W, 45 S&W, 45 colt these are all straight wall cases. I use Lee factory crip dies so trimming is cut down to a minimum. the only time I've trimmed is before resizing with the spent primer still in the hull. I hope this helps,normally the 5th to the 10th reload depending on the brass mfgr.