just wanted to say KTP is great to deal with. i have bought many a gun through them. i wish we had a place in Florida like them, i miss living up there and just going to browse as they have so many guns. my dad just bought a pair of Rugers and a Uberti from them. they were much better than described, as for David if you call he is a great guy to deal with and will usually knock some off the price. good luck