Hat Source?

[Samuel Kiteman Cody]

Please look at this picture of my Great Grandfather. I would like to find a source to make a Hat that is similar. It is the Brim that is obviously the issue. The time period of this photo is 1885-1890

Cheers

Sam Cody

[River City John]

For that wide a bim try:
www.hatcrafters.com

they offer a blank that you can trim the brim to your needs. Maybe they can supply that hat for you. See page 12, No. 959 for a start.

Be careful of wearing it on windy days. Best to fit it out with stays and lines in order to sail it.
Photo kinda looks like a gag photo, put together. That hat certainly sits too high on his head with too much forehead showing. . . .
Wonder if it was for a theatrical show?

RCJ

Hard to see to tell if it's a straw. I would not know where to get a straw with that wide a brim, short of a sombrero-style. Try Dirty Billy's Hats in their straw section.

www.dirtybillyshats.com

[Samuel Kiteman Cody]

Thank you, I knew there would be someone with a logical source.

I should say he was a bit of a dude, This picture was taken in New Mexico. He came directly out to New Mexico from Long Island in 1886-87. There is another picture of him wearing this hat on a horse. He homesteaded a ranch south and west of Clayton, New Mexico. He was friends with Ernest Thompson Seton before his fame as an author and one of the guiding forces for the Boy Scouts of America.
I was told as a child this was a type of cowboy hat worn in New Mexico, a mix between a cowboy hat and sombrero.  But I never saw any other instances of this sort of hat and always wondered.

Cheers

Samuel Cody

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[Major 2]

Kiteman huh !... seems to fit 

[Kayleen]

The hat sort of reminds me of the Sugarloaf  hat, I have and article about it somewhere but with our recent move can't put my hands on it. You stated he was in the  New Mexico area, which would bring us to think of a cowboy hat crossed with a sombrero. As for being pushed back with to much forehead showing that could be done so to see the cowboys face for the picture.
I don't recall seeing any hats during my researching that had brims that large. Can't say that I have even seen one in the cowboy museum  in Oklahoma City.
 I will do a bit of research  as I unpack the rest of my books and get back with what I find.
Kayleen
 

[Frenchie]

The two Tims, Allen and Bender:

http://www.timallenhats.com/

http://www.benderhats.com/products.html

[Delmonico]

Do you have the original photo?  I was wondering if you could scan it better and either post it at a better resolution or send it to me and I'd be gland to post it.

[Samuel Kiteman Cody]

Do you have the original photo?  I was wondering if you could scan it better and either post it at a better resolution or send it to me and I'd be gland to post it.

Felicitations Delmonico,

This is my low res avatar over on SASS. I did this picture with my camera and size adjustment. I did not want to send a large photo. I will be out of town all next week. When I am back I will scan and send back to you. This is a Tintype. I will send the higher res scan, when I am back in town next Saturday. I will provide this and the photo of him on the horse. I can send them in PDF or high Res jpg. The horse is a paper copy. I do not have the original for the horse picture.

Cheers

Sam Cody.

[Delmonico]

Send it jpg, my E-mail  Nebraskacosie@wmconnect.com

I'd really like to look at that one more clear, interesting picture, I love interesting pictures.

[Dr. Bob]

Howdy Samuel Cody,

I can help some with straw hats!

My friend Jim Patton in Springfield, IL has a "garage & rendezvous" business called Straws & Specs.  He has original 1890's reading specs with straight bows, new from the box for $40.  No riding bows left.

He has hats made for him out of rye straw. [The part that they can't make whisky from! ]  He has top hats and broad brimmed hats.  He can get a 5 inch round crown with a 7 inch brim made.  That would take about 90 days.  He stocks 5 inch crown, round or flat with a 5 inch brim.  Hats with a 7 inch brim will run about $40 + shipping.

Jim can be reached at jwpattom3@att.net.  He was the blacksmith at Lincoln's New Salem for over 20 years and know his hats, among other things!

Another option is Crazy Crow Trading Company which has a 6inch crown with a 6 inch brim palm leaf hat for $23.50  I have one and it is not as wide as the one in your picture.  But it is pretty wide.  They ship fast and are easy to deal with.  They have a web site and 800 number, but it is not as wide.  They also have some better quality wool felt hats for $57 or $58 which are fairly PC for out era.  NO cowboy hats, but worth checking out since many of the CAS dealers are not stocking much in wool felt any more.

Things to look at and consider.