Thank you for the suggestions. I have been reading the forum for years and have googled as much as possible for smokeless. I get some who have actually used a load and those who pass on what they have heard. I am going to try some IMR3031. I had used that in the past for the 45-70. It worked well. I just got a new Lyman #49, and it has some loads.. Would anyone try a slightly faster than H4831. IMR3031 is much faster. Just looking for some new data to try...