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The Longbranch / Re: Sharps pistol
« Last post by Major 2 on Today at 08:14:18 PM »
I thought I had a shot at an original.

Some wag, came into my friends FFL with this "as is" no grips ...and these other two.
He claimed he was planning to sell them.... but he left without consigning them.






 
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Spencer Shooting Society / Re: Spencer Serial Number 50950
« Last post by Two Flints on Today at 07:29:58 PM »
Hi Dave,

Info sent.

Two Flints
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The Longbranch / Re: Lets pitch in and buy Founders
« Last post by RRio on Today at 06:52:44 PM »
Quote from: Coffinmaker on Today at 08:37:13 AM
:) Ah Ha  ;)

I just knew it.  I've known it all along.  A most worthy challenger for PosterGrump!!  Finally out of the closet are we.  Well Harrumpff to you two.  As it twer, sorta.

And, Unfortunately, you are entirely correctamundo.  There is no benefit of SASS membership for the Rank and File.  What??  You say??  An Alias list??  So what.  Oh I forgot, also a tiny little sticky sticker for your vehicle window to identify it as a theft magnet.  All that for 65 bucks.  Whoopie.  Oh, 65 bucks and rising.  And, let us not forget, SASS/CAS is slowly, inexorably imploding.

Couple Lustrum ago, there were a number of folks making a tidy little living off CAS.  For some (like me) is was a nice Side Hustle to fund toys.  In case nobody has notice, the numbers of those folks have dwindled to almost nothing.  Most Haberdasheries have closed up shop.  Grip makers have packed it in.  Lots of specialty gunsmiths have bagged it, others in all these activities have simply aged out with no replacements interested in the activity.  Let us also not ignore, the Firearms Manufacturers who have supported the game are reducing production and branching out into other realms.  The Hay day has left the building.

Membership, now with membership numbers well over a Hundred Thousand, are misleading to say the least.  If you were to wander around the country, counting active participants, I seriously doubt you could find 30,000, total active players.

The Players that started this Game (IT'S JUST A GAME) have all aged out.  The original Wild Bunch are gone.  Those who have followed are just short term custodians.  I doubt there is going to be a well funded retirement down the road.

It is a really fun GAME.  I'm gonna play as long as I am able and as long as there is someone hosting a match.

SASS needed to get out of California.  But boy did they ever blow it.  Should have found an already established existing venue.  Oh well.

In other news . . . .  they finally moved the Big Boat  ::)

Totally, 100% ,...
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The Longbranch / Re: Sharps pistol
« Last post by Abilene on Today at 06:48:57 PM »
Polish?  POLISH?  You've heard of patina, right?

J/K  ;D
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The Longbranch / Re: Sharps pistol
« Last post by Kent Shootwell on Today at 06:30:07 PM »
For those that like looking inside here’s most of the parts ready for cleaning and tiny bit of polishing. It’s one my many flaws to take things apart.  ;D  The machine is more complex than a fellow might  think.
IMG_0591 by Oliver Sudden, on Flickr
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The Darksider's Den / Re: How did we get these "Calibers"?
« Last post by Mako on Today at 04:46:21 PM »
Sledman,
The bullet changed but from my research I found the the case remained more or less the same . Well the length, case outside diameters and rim diameter are similar, but the case head style (non balloon head and thick) and rim clearance are very different.  As you well know it has that very small rim diameter to allow it to fit in an original 1860 Conversion which has been carried forward to today.

I've also never seen an inside lubed bullet loaded in old factory ammunition (.43 caliber).  There may be some, but I think the people who think they have seen an internal bullet doesn't realize how thin the case wall were and probably have seen pictures of a heeled cartridge.  Plus, I have no idea what revolver they would have been made for.  the SAA had some .44 Rimfires but no .44 Colt I am aware of.  There were some centerfire model '66 Winchesters, maybe that is what they saw, but I have only seen Heeled bullets in those.

Star Line has had a couple of iterations on the clearance cut at the rim to case juncture.  I have some of both kinds, wide groove and a slightly narrower groove at the bottom of the groove.  Most of my Starline cases  measure close to Ø.49 at the rim.  The one WRA original I have measures Ø.484 and an unmarked case measures Ø.480.  The unmarked case may be a Colt or a U.S. Cartridge company cartridge.  John sent me that one example from a box he purchased on an auction site.

I can shoot the Starline cases in my Uberti '66 (or my .44 caliber cartridge revolvers) but I don't think the original cases would extract from the Uberti.  The deeper clearance cut above the rim on the Starline allows the extractor to get a purchase.  I quit loading them and just use .44 Russian brass or .44 Special now.  The .44 Colts aren't made often enough by Starline  to lose them when ejected from my rifle, my carbine has a carrier (originally intended for .45 Cowboy) that limits me to .44 Russian, the .44 Colt is a hair too long with the Mav Dutchman bullet.

I just call the cartridges intended for a true conversion a ".44 Colt with Heeled Bullet", I guess "original" is just as descriptive if people actually know they had .45 caliber heeled bullets loaded in them.

Cartridges are interesting...

Thank you for sharing.

~Mako
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CAS City Classifieds / Re: CVA 1861 Navy FS
« Last post by Cheyenne Logan on Today at 04:04:02 PM »
BTT
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CAS City Classifieds / Re: Early Uberti "1858" FS
« Last post by Cheyenne Logan on Today at 04:00:01 PM »
Sold
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CAS City Classifieds / Re: Early Uberti 1851
« Last post by Cheyenne Logan on Today at 03:59:31 PM »
Sold
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Frontier Iron / Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Last post by Major 2 on Today at 03:43:20 PM »
SCORE ! Mr.  mtmarfield   :)

Looking forward to your Kodak's
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