'nother pocket revolver question

[Qball]

Wonderin' if the Nagant qualifyes as pocket revolver?
The caliber is 7.5mm Swedesh. Yes the barrel is to long,
but i got new blades for my hacksaw

[St. George]

To me - the Nagant revolver is a full-size service pistol - hacksaw or no.

If it's actually a Swedish-issue piece - they only made 13,732 of them - from 1898 - 1905 - and that may indicate a degree of collectibility.

Was that round readily available at the time - in the US - on the Frontier?

Scouts Out!

[Qball]

Howdy St.George.
The swedesh nagant started production 1887 by Husqvarna, how many was made? don't know.
http://www.io.com/~pogue/Sweden.htm
Ok, to large frame for pocket revolver. Bummer, i found a picture of a police verson from russia
with short barrel and short grip that would have been nice to duplicate.
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/4064/PersCollection/M1895page.html
But i guess ill have to keep serching for a smaller revolver.
As for the American Frontier? There must have been some swedish emigrants that brought one along

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[St. George]

There were only 13,732 of the Swedish-made revolvers - and they went to the Military.

Likewise for the Russian versions - of which there were far more during a production that would run from 1895 - late 1945.

These military revolvers weren't available for sale at the time - being "new" to the militaries that used them.

Most likely - that emigrating Swede may've brought along his shotgun and loading tools and perrhaps a good rifle.

The Nagant never had a whole lot of power - used a "proprietary" round that was hard to lacate in Europe (where the things were produced - and was just "different" enough so that its popularity in the civilian market (the Liege-made ones) was low.

If you want a quick look as to what ammunition was available during the time frame - take a look at the reprints of the Montgomery Wards and Sears and Roebucks catalogs that pre-date 1900.
They - along with other large houses like Paxton & Gallagher and Shapleigh - were the suppliers to the expanding West.

I wrote something awhile back on Pocket Revolvers - both here and on TFS.
Take a look in the archives or earlier pages and maybe something'll be of interest.
These little guns can be found in good-to-excellent condition at gun shows because there were so many of them.

If I were looking for a period pocket pistol, I'd look for a nice little Smith & Wesson.
They're out there - they're easy to work on and most parts are available.

Good Luck.

Scouts Out!

[Qball]

Thank you.
Unfortunatly for me i live in sweden and S&W revolvers ar not common.
I have found Velodog revolvers but they are cheep copys and of poor quality
and when i talk to the police for a licenc for one the answer" are you insane".
They just want to destroy every old wepon.
I already have a Nagant revolver with licens that they can't take away
(new licenses are limetid for five years) thats why i wanted to use it.
And i don't know how to import one though it might be posible.

[St. George]

You know - I never looked to the left to see where you lived.

You're right - finding things like older Smith & Wessons in Europe can be most interesting - though they do crop up as collections disperse.

How about one of the famed "British Bulldogs"?
They were widely used in the Frontier West and were well-thought-of  little guns - small, concealable and hard-hitting.

These short-barrelled, large-caliber revolvers were popularized in England and were made by several British firms - BUT - because of their utility and popularity - many were Belgian-made and marked "Bulldog" or "British Bulldog" - as a way to capitalize on Webley's originals.

In many cases - these are the equivalent of English-made pocket revolvers.

You will see them in the various permutations of .41,.44 and .45 calibers - but they also were made in .38 S&W.

Look at your search engine under "British Bulldog Revolver" or a variant.
You may be surprised.

Good Luck.

Scouts Out!

[Qball]

Yes i have found several of the belgian verson but, allmost everyone was in verry poor condition and not legaly owned.
bying one to make it legal is not posible here, and because they don't "exist" they are usualy found among kids toys
belived to have been just toys.
But i thank you for your anwsers and ill keep my fingers crosed that i find a Smith & Wesson soon