Hoof Hearted, its not the grip frame, its the checkered wood grips. I want the ivory looking grips, or the black horn looking ones on the desperado. Thanks for the welcome too , sir, much appreciated. I was in to ultra long range rifles for a long time, but these guns are really pulling me in, I already want , a 1866, a 73 sporting, and of course a sharps replica, im hooked.