Uberti Revolvers in .44 special AND .44-40?

[patrick_ford]

I was wondering if anyone has an Uberti colt clone that has both a .44 special cylinder as well as a .44-40 cylinder? If so, how does it shoot? From what I understand, the barrels have the same measurements.

Thanks,

Patrick

[MJN77]

Well, I don't know if it will help but I have four 44-40 Uberti revolvers and four 44 colt/russian/special Uberti revolvers. All of them shoot quite accurately and I reload the same diameter bullets for all these calibers. Hope that helps a little at least.

[Abilene]

I have one.  Didn't come that way, though    I stuck a nickle 44-40 cylinder in my 44 Spcl Thunderer.  Got lucky and it fit fine, no fitting needed.  Even shot a clean match first try with it.  But as far as I know Uberti doesn't sell SAA .44's with dual cylinders, like they do the 45LC / 45acp.  But yes you can add a spare cylinder in the other caliber and it should work fine.

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I was wondering if anyone has an Uberti colt clone that has both a .44 special cylinder as well as a .44-40 cylinder? If so, how does it shoot? From what I understand, the barrels have the same measurements.

Thanks,

Patrick

I got a 1873 Cattleman 44/40 4 3/4 inch (1515) with a .427 barrel that I just love. Always wanted a convertable, so I called up Cimarron Arms and got the last 44 special cylinder they had a few months ago. I thought that it would drop right in, but not so. Found out the first thing to fit a cylinder was the head space, of which is slightly different than the 44/40 cylinder that was fitted in the gun. That is feeler gauge thickness between back of cylinder to recoil shield. I am not anywhere near being a gunsmith, but I got it to fit and it functions very well with either cylinder.  I shoot old Lyman #42798 .427 without the O, and Lee 429-200 .429 useing COWWs. Also shoot .429 Elmer Kieths 268 grain in the .427 barrel......now adjusting height or trajectory with different weights and size is another subject.....

Ask me if I love this Uberti.......yeeeehhaaaa

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[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

I got a 1873 Cattleman 44/40 4 3/4 inch (1515) with a .427 barrel that I just love. Always wanted a convertable, so I called up Cimarron Arms and got the last 44 special cylinder they had a few months ago. I thought that it would drop right in, but not so. Found out the first thing to fit a cylinder was the head space, of which is slightly different than the 44/40 cylinder that was fitted in the gun. That is feeler gauge thickness between back of cylinder to recoil shield. I am not anywhere near being a gunsmith, but I got it to fit and it functions very well with either cylinder.  I shoot old Lyman #42798 .427 without the O, and Lee 429-200 .429 useing COWWs. Also shoot .429 Elmer Kieths 268 grain in the .427 barrel......now adjusting height or trajectory with different weights and size is another subject.....

Ask me if I love this Uberti.......yeeeehhaaaa

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Its simple with pistols. The heavier the bullet the higher the POI at pistol distances. Conversely; lighter is lower. MV changes are neutralized by "jump".

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I got a 1873 Cattleman 44/40 4 3/4 inch (1515) with a .427 barrel that I just love. Always wanted a convertable, so I called up Cimarron Arms and got the last 44 special cylinder they had a few months ago. I thought that it would drop right in, but not so. Found out the first thing to fit a cylinder was the head space, of which is slightly different than the 44/40 cylinder that was fitted in the gun. That is feeler gauge thickness between back of cylinder to recoil shield. I am not anywhere near being a gunsmith, but I got it to fit and it functions very well with either cylinder.  I shoot old Lyman #42798 .427 without the O, and Lee 429-200 .429 useing COWWs. Also shoot .429 Elmer Keiths 268 grain in the .427 barrel......now adjusting height or trajectory with different weights and size is another subject.....

Ask me if I love this Uberti.......yeeeehhaaaa

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Not true info.....barrel is .428.5 with .430 cylinder throats on both cylinders...how lucky can I get....HUH!  So far I shoot .429 size coww for now. Just trying my hand at posting pictures.....

[Cholla Hill Tirador]

 I have one. My very first Colt reproduction, a Uberti, I bought as a 44-40, got it home and immediately ordered a .44 Special cylinder from VTI. It did require a little fitting in the front area of the cylinder bushing. I did this every so slowly so when I was finished it fit nice and snug. Shoots great, is very accurate and is hands-down my most carried revolver...even whacked a couple of deer with it.
 As far as the original 44-40 cylinder goes, I have no use for it from a practical standpoint because the .44 Special can be loaded heavier and with heavier bullets. I did for gits and shiggles load some 44-40's with black and smokeless and shot them.

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My Uberti was made in 2013 with the funky hammer wedge(D-cam hammer).........of course I took the external safety wedge out....mine wasn't right when it was new...had to send it to Accokeek, Maryland to screw on the barrel a little bit to make it shoot point of aim.......cylinder pin was sloppy in the frame (undersized pin) so I put a Belt Mountain standard size pin in that fits the frame and is a one position pin so as not to turn in frame and hog it out.

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I have one. My very first Colt reproduction, a Uberti,

Talk about first Colt repo......mine was this Great Western .357 made in 1958 and I bought in 1968 with a cylinder that was so messed up that I couldn't put in a .357 cartridge. 38 special would go in a couple.  Found a brand new genuine Colt .357 cylinder for $5.00 and stuck it in, not knowing any better it worked perfectly without any alternations. lucky me ha!

Matt Dillon gun with full floating firing pin.

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I have one. My very first Colt reproduction, a Uberti, I bought as a 44-40, got it home and immediately ordered a .44 Special cylinder from VTI. It did require a little fitting in the front area of the cylinder bushing. I did this every so slowly so when I was finished it fit nice and snug. Shoots great, is very accurate and is hands-down my most carried revolver...even whacked a couple of deer with it.
 As far as the original 44-40 cylinder goes, I have no use for it from a practical standpoint because the .44 Special can be loaded heavier and with heavier bullets. I did for gits and shiggles load some 44-40's with black and smokeless and shot them.

Your doing some mighty fine shooting Cholla Hill Tirador with that .44 spec. of yours. I have admired your nice clear pictures (good camera) and seen the picture of one deer you WHACKED........Noticed you are using .430 bullets....something I will try .

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[Cholla Hill Tirador]

 Thanks! 

[Coffinmaker]

Hi Patrick,
I must have been asleep and missed this one.  Your results will depend on carefully matching your "parts."  As Abilene noted, Uberti doesn't do a "convertible" in .44 the same way they do .45 Colt.
When you make this change, you may want to consider when the base handgun was made.  Some of the "older" guns have a 427/428 Bore.  The newer build guns have a nominal 429/430 bore.  First step will be to slug the bore so you can match the cylinder throats
to the bore diameter.  You will want the throat and bullet diameter to be around .0005 larger than the bore.
If your matching to a rifle as well, many 427/428 bore rifle's chambers will not accept ammo loaded with .430 bullets.  Just a thought.
for the most part, with careful selection/fitting of parts, a 44 Special/44-40 convertible can be a lot of fun.

Coffinmaker

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......consider when the base handgun was made.  Some of the "older" guns have a 427/428 Bore.  The newer build guns have a nominal 429/430 bore.  First step will be to slug the bore so you can match the cylinder throats
to the bore diameter.  You will want the throat and bullet diameter to be around .0005 larger than the bore.
 44 Special/44-40 convertible can be a lot of fun.

Coffinmaker

barrel is .428.5 with .430 cylinder throats on both cylinders...how lucky can I get....HUH!  So far I shoot .429 size coww for now.

Got to thinking what Coffinmaker said. My Uberti barrel was measured with a digital calipers....picture the caliper jaws as a square surface against a round barrel. IF the caliper jaws would have rounded jaw surface, then my so called .428.5 barrel is most likely a .429 to .430 as Coffinmaker said of late manufactured Uberti's.    Pin gauges showed the .430 cylinder throats.  I did slug the barrel of which was .429, but the guy with the pin gauges did the caliper thingy.....

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My Uberti was made in 2013 with the funky hammer wedge(D-cam hammer).........

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Ahhh gee. I made another boo boo. My Uberti doesn't have the D-cam hammer 

Must be the way I approach my coffee maker. I'll back up to it next time a post is to be made to see if will help me  You knowledgeable gunsmiths need to correct guy's like me that make these eronious  statements

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