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CAS TOPICS => The Longbranch => Topic started by: Badlands Walker on August 02, 2005, 06:57:37 PM
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Now, I ain't pickin' & I ain't pokin' fun! I just gotta know! I saw a name on the list of folks readin' this forum & I saw the name MoeLester. What on earth would possess a man to want to use that name??? :o
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They signed up today and that is flat out WRONG!!! This person needs to be given one chance to change their alias and if they don't comply they need to be banned for life. IP address and all. That's one sick s.o.b..
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Dang Slim! Fer' once, you & me agree on somethin' 100%! Yee-Haw! ;)
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Huh???
Methinks you fellers are lettin' your own perceptions, presumably based on very modern misuse of the term, get in the way of common sense ... Check any good dictionary - there is absolutely no "sexual" or otherwise "immoral" element or connotation in the definition or meaning of "molest" (or "molester"). For example, this is the entire defintion of "molest" in Webster's New World Dictionary - "to annoy, interfere with or meddle with so as to cause trouble or harm, or with intent to trouble or harm."
That's it!
With all the "outlaw" and other ne'er-do-well personas and aliases in Cowboy Action Shooting, what's so "sick" or unacceptable????
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Dang Slim! Fer' once, you & me agree on somethin' 100%! Yee-Haw! ;)
Frightening isn't it. :P ;D
Rattlesnake, I'll stand by my assesment. At the very least, it's in extremely poor taste.
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Would it be any different if a woman used the name "Mole Esther"?
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In my not so humble opinion no it wouldn't. Poor taste is not gender specific. How about Ray Per. Maybe he was a miner that raped the land. It's beyond imagination how anyone could defend an alias with such an evil conotation even if it is only by todays venacular and standards.
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Yep! I'm gonna have to agree with Shoshone Slim once again on this! That's just not a name I would want associated with, alias or not! 8)
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I'm gonna jump in here & agree with Slim & Walker, very poor taste indeed.
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Yanno, could be they had something in mind to do with Lester Moore's epitaph.
"Here lies Lester Moore, four slugs from a .44, no less, no more."
Maybe since Lester More in No More they wanted to be Mo' Lester, or More Lester.
Just a thought but it sounds like something that I might do trying to be clever and come up with something that people take entirely out of context and in ways that I never thought about.
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Unfortunately, it's the nature of the beast today & one needs to be real careful in today's society! 8)
Perhaps there is no negativity at all in the name, but it sure is a bad idea... IMHO! ::)
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Ever the contrarian, eh Camille?
::)
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Ever the contrarian, eh Camille?
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I like giving people the benefit of doubt Book Miser and without ever having seen anything that the person posted or having met them there are people all ready to hang them. As pointed out the name could be a perfectly innocent idea that other people just happened to see differently.
Besides if everybody agreed all the time the world would get awful boring and playing the devil's advocate can be soooo much fun.
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Not too long after a certain person was permanently banned over on TRI we had registrations like this turn up. There is no excuse. I know that I'm sounding pretty harsh here and I don't really easily offend but this is just flat out and let me say it again....in very poor taste, not funny and shameful.
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There ya go again Slim! ;) Yes, it's true... I was Son Antonio on TRI, but I can assure you this time... this is not me! 8)
Havin' a fun time & tryin' to sneak one in on SASS is one thing, this is totally somethin' else.! 8)
Ya have my word as a gentleman, rebel, cowboy, or any other title you'ld like to place on me... this new alias ain't Badlands & I agree, it's sick & not funny! >:( JMHO! ;)
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There ya go again Slim! ;) Yes, it's true... I was Son Antonio on TRI, but I can assure you this time... this is not me! 8)
>:( JMHO! ;)
BW, I'm talking about some one else....a certain criquet.
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There ya go again Slim! ;) Yes, it's true... I was Son Antonio on TRI, but I can assure you this time... this is not me! 8)
>:( JMHO! ;)
BW, I'm talking about some one else....a certain criquet.
Damn! I blew it again! ::)
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I must be gettin' paranoid in my old age cuz I would o' swore you was takin' another shot at me! :D
Better see a doc about this! :-\
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Moral relativism is interesting, is it not?
Each of us has some type of moral compass under which guidance we conduct ourselves from day to day. When people join in a community or society, they often share many of their moral "values." Those in the community who do not share a particularly strong value are often subjected to the others' judgement. Often, over time, these values are codified into laws, such as "Thou shalt not kill." Those that are not often evolve into the mores and folkways of a given community which can be just as strongly a part of the members' lives as those which are "legislated."
On a large scale, when one large group decides another group is "wrong" because the groups disagree about a point on their compasses, wars can be started.
On a smaller scale it becomes more personal. How often do we say someone is wrong, offensive, or shameful, not because that person has caused anyone harm or damage, but because they have triggered something on our own compass?
"You are wrong because you have offended my personal moral relativity!" And so, we project our beliefs onto others, without regard for theirs.
Humans are a funny bunch, ain't we?
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AnnieLee
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So, how come when I go to profiles, this MoeLester feller don't show up? ???
I did a search & came up empty handed! >:(
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What'd she say? :o
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BW, go to the Home Page, scroll down to "Members List" click on it and then go to page 19.
Page 19 Members List (http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?action=mlist;sort=realName;start=900)
A society decides what it will and will not be tolerated thus setting it's mores. Harm whether intended or not can be inflicted with the mere casual posting of the alias in question. To try and justify or rationalize an offensive act is ridiculous to the absurd. I as a survivor of molestation take great offense to this alias. This alias isn't funny. I would and will shun any such person and cast doubt as to the depth of their character and also for that matter anyone who would defend such a tasteless act.
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BW, go to the Home Page, scroll down to "Members List" click on it and then go to page 19.
Page 19 Members List (http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?action=mlist;sort=realName;start=900)
A society decides what it will and will not be tolerated thus setting it's mores. Harm whether intended or not can be inflicted with the mere casual posting of the alias in question. To try and justify or rationalize an offensive act is ridiculous to the absurd. I as a survivor of molestation take great offense to this alias. This alias isn't funny. I would and will shun any such person and cast doubt as to the depth of their character and also for that matter anyone who would defend such a tasteless act.
And so, without knowing anything about the person, Shoshone Slim projects his relativism onto the stranger and not only condemns this unknown, but will deride him or her and will do the same for anyone who says that this person is allowed to post.
Interesting.
AnnieLee
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Yanno, could be they had something in mind to do with Lester Moore's epitaph.
"Here lies Lester Moore, four slugs from a .44, no less, no more."
Maybe since Lester More in No More they wanted to be Mo' Lester, or More Lester.
Just a thought but it sounds like something that I might do trying to be clever and come up with something that people take entirely out of context and in ways that I never thought about.
Howdy, Cammie!
Or... it could be based on the comic strip created by Michael H. Price in the early 70's featuring Price's redneck-lawman character, Constable Moe Lester.
;)
AnnieLee
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BW, go to the Home Page, scroll down to "Members List" click on it and then go to page 19.
Page 19 Members List (http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?action=mlist;sort=realName;start=900)
A society decides what it will and will not be tolerated thus setting it's mores. Harm whether intended or not can be inflicted with the mere casual posting of the alias in question. To try and justify or rationalize an offensive act is ridiculous to the absurd. I as a survivor of molestation take great offense to this alias. This alias isn't funny. I would and will shun any such person and cast doubt as to the depth of their character and also for that matter anyone who would defend such a tasteless act.
And so, without knowing anything about the person, Shoshone Slim projects his relativism onto the stranger and not only condemns this unknown, but will deride him or her and will do the same for anyone who says that this person is allowed to post.
Interesting.
AnnieLee
Yes you are absolutely dead on right Annie. For some one to take that alias tells me all that I need to know about them and speaks volumes as far as I'm concerned about the character or should I say the lack of character of anyone who would defend them. Could they find redemption in my eyes? Sure but it wouldn't be easy.
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Shoshone, if it bothers you so bad why don't you e-mail them and let them know about it. Their e-mail address is in their profile.
moe at comcast dot net
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It would be too funny if that was the guy's real name and his parents just had a really sick sense if humor. ;D
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I have sent the email and the fact that anyone would find this to be an acceptable alias on this board is beyond pathetic. And no it wouldn't be funny if this were their parents sick and I do mean sick sense of humor.
Maybe I'll change my posting alias to Nig R. Hater or Abe Ore Shunist or Bea Itch Slapper or Ped O'File.
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I think that it is funny that you assume that people find it to be acceptable. I don't see where anyone said that.
It was pointed out that it could have been an innocent mistake though.
I myself would not have seen the name and put it together if someone had not pointed it out.
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I guess that I mistook passive acceptance by defensive rationalization as condoning this alias as acceptable when in reality it's just not taking a public stand. My sincere apologies. By the way here is a direct and simple yes or no question... do you think that this alias is acceptable?
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Shoshone, you have been trying to insult me ever since my first post on this matter. I took a public stand against a lynch mob that automatically assumed that just because they interpreted that name one way meant that the original creator of the name meant for it to be interpreted that way.
I don't consider that to be "passive acceptance by defensive rationalization".
No, I don't consider the name to be appropiate but I don't consider it to be appropiate to string someone up when you have no idea what their meaning was either. And I really don't consider it to be appropiate for you to be TRYING to insult people left and right on this thread because they pointed out that you are jumping to conclusions based upon your perception of something.
As far as I am concerned that is all that I have to say on the matter.
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I guess that I mistook passive acceptance by defensive rationalization as condoning this alias as acceptable when in reality it's just not taking a public stand. My sincere apologies.
Maybe I should have worded my previous quote as:
"I guess that I mistook what I perceived as passive acceptance by defensive rationalization as condoning this alias as acceptable when in reality it's just not taking a public stand. I was mistaken and I offer my sincere apologies."
I did indeed offer you a sincere apology for my mistake, now whether you accept that apology or not is up to you. Also, if Moe ever feels the need to clear this up and it appears to be one of the many innocent reasons put forth here then that will be worked out between the two of us and if it's warrented I will publicly apologize at the top of my lungs. My karma is clear and that's all that I have to say.
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Maybe I'll change my posting alias to Nig R. Hater or Abe Ore Shunist or Bea Itch Slapper or Ped O'File. :D ;D
Damn Slim, I ain't laughed that hard in a coon's age! ;) :D
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By the way here is a direct and simple yes or no question... do you think that this alias is acceptable?
NOT! >:( NO! >:( NADA! >:( NYET! >:( NINE! >:( and ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! 8)
JMHO! ;)
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Shoshone, you have been trying to insult me ever since my first post on this matter.
Slim is not one to muck around with subtleties when it comes to rendering an insult. I think that just because you interpreted his words one way meant that he meant for them to be interpreted that way.
As far as I am concerned that is all that I have to say on the matter.
Please, God, let that be true! ;D
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FOOF FIGHT! FOOD FIGHT! ;) :D
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I thought you might enjoy that one Book! ;)
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I'm pretty sure that my pard Badlands can attest to my ability to insult. ;) :D ;D :P :-*
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Excellent job my friend! Excellent job! ;) :D ;D
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His first name is Bob and his last name is Lester. His nickname is Moe. He doesn't see the problem. I rest my case. My teenage daughter reads this forum and I stand by everything that I've written. Lynch mob or not if he isn't told to change his alias and is allowed to post on this forum using his current alias then the Marshall should hang his head in shame and I won't be back if that's the case.
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His first name is Bob and his last name is Lester. His nickname is Moe. He doesn't see the problem. I rest my case. My teenage daughter reads this forum and I stand by everything that I've written. Lynch mob or not if he isn't told to change his alias and is allowed to post on this forum using his current alias then the Marshall should hang his head in shame and I won't be back if that's the case.
Howdy......
I thaught I and somthin ta say....well... maybe not( yet)
Vern...
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Moe Lester stays and that goes with all other users having a name that can be interpreted wall up and wall down in a negative way. There are numerous names in the SASS alias register which, depending on our personal moral standards and principles, might be questioned. Then again, this forum is for cowboy action shooters reenacting both the good guys and the bad guys. If we take this way too serious, the next chapter will be about an alias policy for SASS like "no name can be chosen that is in any way related to violence and might have a bad impression on our children. But... I won't and 'nough said.
Life is too serious as it is, lighten up, move on and the sun will be shining tomorrow.
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Goodbye, take care and may all of your bangs be followed by clangs.
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The official SASS rule says that an alias "must be 'printable' before a wide audience."
That's a masterpiece of vagueness and weasel-wording.
As for whether or not this is Mr. Lester's nickname, I can say that I have had some nicknames hung on me that I would not care to share here, and a few that I'd just as soon forget.
Shame on whoever used the term "lynch mob." We have now redefined "lynch mob" to me any group of two or more people, with whose opinions we disagree. That is not only inflammatory, but IMO dilutes the enormity of the murders committed by genuine "lynch mobs."
It does appear that there are double standards here, just as there have been double standards on other cowboy forums. Tsk.
:'(
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Book Miser I used the term lynch mob and NOT because I disagreed with them but because they were calling the person out and already verbally slaughtering them.
Shame on you for posting a complete lie.
By the way, I agree with the Marshall 100%. There are a lot of aliases that I don't think too highly of but to start censoring aliases based upon a few people's opinions of them would be the beginning of a nightmare.
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Can anyone tell me whether there's an "ignore" function on this board?
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"Verbally slaughtering" is pretty histrionic. What I read was someone objecting to the alias, whom Cammie then goaded into anger. Camille, there are many of us who don't care for your passive-aggression, but just a few who will bother to say so online.
You accuse me of "posting a complete lie," when all I have done is state an opinion. That, my dear, is passive aggression in its most refined sense.
As far as the term "lynch mob" is concerned, allow me to submit for your consideration:
Southern trees bear strange fruit.
There's blood on the leaves,
There's blood at the roots.
Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze;
There's strange fruit hanging from the poplar tree.
The scenic view of the quiet south;
Those bulging eyes, the twisted mouth.
The scent of magnolia comes as sweet and fresh.
Suddenly: the stench of black burning flesh.
Now here my friends,
Here is a fruit for the crows to pluck.
A tear for the rain to gather;
The roaring wind to suck.
For the sun to rise,
And those trees to drop:
And I hear there's a strange and bitter crop.
This was a shameful portion of our history, and to use the term casually is inexcusable.
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Book Miser I used the term lynch mob and NOT because I disagreed with them but because they were calling the person out and already verbally slaughtering them.
Shame on you for posting a complete lie.
By the way, I agree with the Marshall 100%. There are a lot of aliases that I don't think too highly of but to start censoring aliases based upon a few people's opinions of them would be the beginning of a nightmare.
I agree with this. It appears that some are making a big issue out of a small item. I fully understand the concern here with the alias and I do understand that some may find it disturbing. My thoughts are...put a lid on it for now. If someone, other than the afore mentioned individuals, find this alias disturbing...let them speak out about it. Apparently this whole thing is causing some friction between members and we don't need that! There's enough strife on the planet now. We certainly don't need that here. So...why don't we put a lid on this....walk away from it and let it rest?
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;D Book Miser that's the first time I have ever seen or heard anybody describe anything about me as passive.
I gotta go now. I know some people out there that could use a good laugh and it may as well be on me today. ;D
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PEOPLE! PEOPLE! PEOPLE! LET'S PUT A LID ON THIS THREAD! WE'VE BASHED THIS AROUND LONG ENOUGH AND HAVE GOTTEN NOWHERE WITH IT! THERE IS FRICTION BEING CREATED HERE AND WE DON'T NEED THAT! DROP IT! NOBODY WON ON THIS ONE! SMILE AND WALK AWAY FROM THIS! TAKING IT FARTHER WILL ACCOMPLISH NOTHING!
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This thread is closed.
Have a great day.