Waal, I seen this thread pop up again, and just had to see what was goin' on. Did ya' ever eat tongue, MtnMan? It's right good, done right. I see by yer profile, that you are in that there OlyPen region of the great northwest (got friends there that have the same server addy). Are you a reformed 'skinner, or just expandin' yer horizons? There's quite a few folks here that are, or used to be into the fur trapper era scene. Me, I never got into it formally, but have been a practicioner (sp?) since I was a pup.