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Offline redcliffsw

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Bellamy's Pledge of Allegiance . . . . .
« on: June 24, 2014, 07:07:54 AM »

The Pledge has been one of the American socialists greatest successes of indoctrination ever.  For those of us who attended the government schools, the Pledge of Allegiance was put into our minds at an early age beginning in 1st grade.  Since then, I've learned differently about the Pledge and I don't say it.

We ought to return to the beliefs of our founding fathers to abandon the myths of Lincoln.

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http://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/blog/bellamys-pledge/





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Re: Bellamy's Pledge of Allegiance . . . . .
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2014, 09:40:44 AM »
How did Elk County end up with so many nut cases like this Ross and Redcliff. There must be some loco weed getting in your water system.

Offline Diane Amberg

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Re: Bellamy's Pledge of Allegiance . . . . .
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2014, 11:39:35 AM »
 Hello! There may be... ;D ;D ;D ;D  Don't give up on us just yet. Most of us are very ordinary nice people, not all of whom live there, but all have some tie or another to Elk County.

Offline redcliffsw

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Re: Bellamy's Pledge of Allegiance . . . . .
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2014, 05:49:33 AM »

Diane, why do you recite the Pledge?

Offline Diane Amberg

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Re: Bellamy's Pledge of Allegiance . . . . .
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2014, 09:34:42 AM »
Uh oh... a trap. There is no answer that would be respected, so I won't. Why does the military carry the flag when they parade? Why is it raised and lowered on bases?

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Re: Bellamy's Pledge of Allegiance . . . . .
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2014, 11:30:31 AM »
Probably a good call, Diane, but I will venture into this one.

A flag is a symbol of a country.  Every country (that I know of) has one.  A flag can be a symbol of a large corporation and many have them.  Social organizations can have their own flags as well.  So flags are a way of signifying something.  As to the Pledge of Allegiance, reciting it merely means that one is pledging allegiance to a flag which in this case represents the United States of America.  Pledging to the Republic......yada yada yada.

What it really means at the end of the day is what does the flag mean to anyone person.  To some it means nothing more than that is just a flag that has been around a long time and everybody knows it.  To others it represents the freedoms described by our Constitution.  To a veteran it represents the country and the people he stood for.  To my wife it means a remembrance of her father who fought in World War II and was buried with military honors.....the flag folded and given to her.........and sits in its place of honor on a shelf at the end of a hallway.......resting in a triangular wooden case.....triangle because that was the way the soldiers folded it at the funeral.

So what does the pledge or the flag mean to anybody?

To me...........being a veteran it represents what I gave up two years of my life for (good thing?)......it represents what people like my father-in-law sacrificed many years of his life and put that life in danger in the South Pacific to protect the freedoms given to us by the Constitution of the country that the flag represents.  It means maybe different things to different people.

Funny, but, there is no law.......no regulation that says you have to say the Pledge of Allegiance or even salute the American flag when it passes you in a parade.  You have that right as an American citizen.

Me?  I will salute that flag when it passes me by and I will recite the Pledge of Allegiance when prompted.  I am not just doing it because it is the thing to do.  I am honoring those who died for this country and this is the way I can do it.

So, Red, if you choose not to recite the Pledge, that is your prerogative.  I am truly ashamed as an American that you don't.

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Re: Bellamy's Pledge of Allegiance . . . . .
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2014, 11:40:02 AM »
Well said Larry, I honor the flag every chance I get. I had 3 brothers in WWII, one of them  was called back into Korea, and another one joined and was in the Pacific in the Korean War, he stayed in 25 years and did 2 tours in Vietnam. Honoring the Flag is a big thing to him and all of my family. My poor Mother had 3 sons and 2 brothers in WWII , she told me later that there was hardly ever a minute that she didn't worry about them.
My brother that served 25 years is still living, he was head of the American Legion in Howard for many years, my wife and I drove from Midland Texas to help but a small Flag and a poppy wreath on every veterans grave at the cemetery in Howard, on Memorial Day we help line the roads into the cemetery with big flags and then they put on a Flag raising ceremony. Everyone I know in Howard honors the flag in a big way. I had 3 Nephews and a brother in Vietnam, One Nephew was killed and one wounded. I have 2 of my brothers casket Flags and I am honored to have the. For my 3 brothers that were in WWII I have Presidential Memorial Certificates signed by President George W Bush, I have them framed and displayed.

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Re: Bellamy's Pledge of Allegiance . . . . .
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2014, 02:31:46 PM »
Thank you both. I couldn't have said how I feel nearly so well.

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Re: Bellamy's Pledge of Allegiance . . . . .
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2014, 05:28:42 PM »
 :police:  I say the Pledge in honor of my country...In honor of every single person who has lost their ability to ever say it out loud again because they spilled their blood to keep this country free...In honor of every living man and woman who has given up part of their life to serve this country, whether it be in the military or in civil service...And to keep reminded that I owe allegiance to the country that has mothered my family, kept us safe and allowed us the greatest amount of freedom known on this God's earth.  I might be a middle-aged to older woman (depending on the day) but I wouldn't hesitate to pick up a gun and help defend my country if it were attacked.  My country is worthy of my loyalty.

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Re: Bellamy's Pledge of Allegiance . . . . .
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2014, 05:34:05 PM »
Well said Catwoman as usual. You have to consider the twisted mentality by the original poster of this. Topic.

 

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