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« Reply #4570 on: July 01, 2016, 03:13:32 PM »

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« Reply #4571 on: July 01, 2016, 03:35:02 PM »

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« Reply #4572 on: July 09, 2016, 01:17:43 AM »
“Blizzard of Lies”

By William Safire - NYTimes - 1996

Published as “Blizzard of Lies” January 8, 1996, New York Times Op-Ed writer William Safire, (1929-2009) an American author, columnist, journalist, and presidential speechwriter. He was a long-time syndicated political columnist for the New York Times

Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our First Lady — a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation — is a congenital liar.

Drip by drip, like Whitewater torture, the case is being made that she is compelled to mislead, and to ensnare her subordinates and friends in a web of deceit.

1. Remember the story she told about studying The Wall Street Journal to explain her 10,000 percent profit in 1979 commodity trading? We now know that was a lie told to turn aside accusations that as the Governor’s wife she profited corruptly, her account being run by a lawyer for state poultry interests through a disreputable broker.

She lied for good reason: To admit otherwise would be to confess taking, and paying taxes on, what some think amounted to a $100,000 bribe.

2. The abuse of Presidential power known as Travelgate elicited another series of lies. She induced a White House lawyer to assert flatly to investigators that Mrs. Clinton did not order the firing of White House travel aides, who were then harassed by the F.B.I. and Justice Department to justify patronage replacement by Mrs. Clinton’s cronies.

Now we know, from a memo long concealed from investigators, that there would be “hell to pay” if the furious First Lady’s desires were scorned. The career of the lawyer who transmitted Hillary’s lie to authorities is now in jeopardy. Again, she lied with good reason: to avoid being identified as a vindictive political power player who used the F.B.I. to ruin the lives of people standing in the way of juicy patronage.

3. In the aftermath of the apparent suicide of her former partner and closest confidant, White House Deputy Counsel Vincent Foster, she ordered the overturn of an agreement to allow the Justice Department to examine the files in the dead man’s office. Her closest friends and aides, under oath, have been blatantly disremembering this likely obstruction of justice, and may have to pay for supporting Hillary’s lie with jail terms.

Again, the lying was not irrational. Investigators believe that damning records from the Rose Law Firm, wrongfully kept in Vincent Foster’s White House office, were spirited out in the dead of night and hidden from the law for two years — in Hillary’s closet, in Web Hubbell’s basement before his felony conviction, in the President’s secretary’s personal files — before some were forced out last week.

Why the White House concealment? For good reason: The records show Hillary Clinton was lying when she denied actively representing a criminal enterprise known as the Madison S.& L., and indicate she may have conspired with Web Hubbell’s father-in-law to make a sham land deal that cost taxpayers $3 million.

Why the belated release of some of the incriminating evidence? Not because it mysteriously turned up in offices previously searched. Certainly not because Hillary Clinton and her new hang-tough White House counsel want to respond fully to lawful subpoenas.

One reason for the Friday-night dribble of evidence from the White House is the discovery by the F.B.I. of copies of some of those records elsewhere. When Clinton witnesses are asked about specific items in “lost” records — which investigators have — the White House “finds” its copy and releases it. By concealing the Madison billing records two days beyond the statute of limitations, Hillary evaded a civil suit by bamboozled bank regulators.

Another reason for recent revelations is the imminent turning of former aides and partners of Hillary against her; they were willing to cover her lying when it advanced their careers, but are inclined to listen to their own lawyers when faced with perjury indictments.

Therefore, ask not “Why didn’t she just come clean at the beginning?” She had good reasons to lie; she is in the longtime habit of lying; and she has never been called to account for lying herself or in suborning lying in her aides and friends.

No wonder the President is fearful of holding a prime-time press conference. Having been separately deposed by the independent counsel at least twice, the President and First Lady would be well advised to retain separate defense counsel.

A VIDEO of Hillary Clinton Lying For 13 Minutes Straight 100% EXPOSED

Hillary Clinton's 100 Lies:
  This collection of lies, half-truths, deceptions and dubious quotes is
  apparently from the May 1993 issue of Spy Magazine which has a front cover
  with a picture of Clinton with an elongated nose and the title: "Clinton's
  First 100 Lies."  It sounds like it was written in mid-March, so it is
  already a little out-of-date and incomplete.

                  Spy Magazine: HILLARY CLINTON'S FIRST 100 LIES

    1. "I want to have a team established that can hit the ground running."
    2. "My first priority would be to pass a jobs program, to introduce it on
       the first day I was inaugurated."
    3. "The critical issues that America is crying out for leadership on:
       jobs, the health-care crises, the need to control the economy...
       I will deal with them from day one."
    4. At the MTV Inaugural Ball he said, "Hillary and I have to go to eleven
       balls tonight, but...Chelsea's going to stay."
    5. In May 1992 he said he wouldn't support anything that "promoted the
       homosexual life-style."
    6. January 29, 1993: "This compromise [on the question of gays in the
       military] is not everything I would have hoped for."  In fact, the
       "compromise" was almost exactly the plan he had discussed privately
       with gay groups back in November.
    7. Asked about getting bogged down the first week of his presidency on
       gays in the military, he said, "I spent very little time on the issue
    8. Twenty-five words later he added, "I was frankly appalled that we
       spent so much time the first week talking about that instead of how
       to get the economy going again."
    9. "Reagan voted for Clinton," a top staff member told TV Guide.  "I
       have it on the highest authority."
   10. Asked about his "willingness" to normalize relations with Iraq, Clinton
       said, "Everybody who heard those conversations was astonished that such
       a conclusion could have been drawn...Nobody asked me about normaliza-
       tion."  He had been asked about both "normal relations" and "normaliza-
   11. "I don't like to use the word sacrifice."  -- May 1992
       "It will not be easy.  It will require sacrifice." -- January 1993
   12. "I will offer middle-income tax cuts.  The average working family's
       tax bill will go down about 10 percent." -- November 1991
   13. "Middle-class taxpayers will have a choice between a children's
       tax credit or a significant reduction in their income tax rate."
       -- _Putting_People_First_
   14. "I want to make it very clear that this middle-class tax cut, in my
       view, is central to any attempt we're going to make to have a short-
       term economic strategy." -- January 1992
   15. "An America in which middle-class families' incomes -- not their taxes
       are going up."  -- July 1992
   16. "I'm not going to raise taxes on the middle class" -- July 1992
   17. "But I can tell you this.  I'm not going to raise taxes on middle-
       class Americans to pay for the programs I've recommended"
       -- October 1992
   18. Also in October, his energy coordinator ruled out an energy tax.
   19. At the MTV Inaugural Ball: "Do my wife and daughter look great tonight
       or what?"
   20. He vowed to "oppose racial quotas."
   21. He promised "no token appointments."
   22. He decried "bean-counters" even as transition employees were
       ethnically coding resumes for high-tech bean-counting.
   23. Policy experts in Washington received calls from Clinton transition-
       staff members wondering if they knew of any Asian American women
       who might be interested in being in the Cabinet.
   24. "{Bush} won't break the stranglehold special interests have on
       our elections and lobbyists have on our government.  I will."
   25. "In short, Mr. {Ron} Brown has taken and will take all appropriate
       actions to avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest"
       -- George Stephanopoulos
   26. Robert Rubin "is dealing very, very cautiously with his former
       clients" -- Dee Dee Myers
   27. "I will not hide behind the walls of the White House" -- September 1992
       At press time, he had avoided a formal press conference longer than
       any other modern president.
   28. "I invested in the future of our people and balanced the state
       budget with honesty and fairness and without gimmicks."
   29. "Thank goodness the networks have a fact check so I don't have to go
       blue in the face anymore.  Mr. Bush said once again I was going to
       have a $150 billion tax increase."  He proposed a $207 billion tax
   30. "...And we have $140 billion in spending cuts."  He proposed $117
       billion in [dubious] spending cuts, maybe.
   31. He counted a rise in the taxes on Social Security as a spending cut.
   32. Two days after presenting his plan, he said it was basically 50-50,
       spending cuts and revenue increases, the first four years."
   33. "We also provide over $100 billion in tax relief, in terms of incentives
       for new plants, new small businesses, new technologies, new housing"
       -- October 1992.  His plan actually contains $16 billion in tax relief.
   34. "I call on Congress to enact an immediate jobs package of over $30
       billion" -- February 1993.  The plan contains $15 billion in direct
   35. "An America in which the rich are not soaked..."  On top of his "top"
       rate, people making more than $250,000 also pay what he once called
       a millionaire's surtax.
   36. "For the wealthiest -- those earning more than $180,000 per year..."
       -- February 1993.  By $180,000 per year, he meant couples with combined
       incomes of $140,000 per year and individuals with taxable incomes
       of $115,000.
   37. "I want to emphasize the facts about this plan -- 98.8 percent of
       America's families will have no increase in their income tax rates,
       only 1.2 percent at the top."
   38. He vowed to crack down on "those who see the tax code as a table
       game to be won," but his plan leaves the top capital-gains-tax
       rate at 28 percent, once again creating tax shelter incentives.
   39. "I'm going to tell you, in very plain language, what I plan to do
       as president."
   40. "We don't need to tamper with Social Security... We're not going to
       fool with Social Security" -- September 1992
       -- Washington Post, January 29, 1993
   41. When Clinton's people said his program would add 500,000 jobs in 1993
       and '94, they only counted jobs that might be created by his program
       and did not subtract jobs that might be lost from increased taxes.
   42. "We don't believe this will cost jobs," Stephanopoulos explained.
       The previous October his boss had said, "You could raise taxes a lot
       and try to balance the budget.  You just make the unemployment problem
   43. He says he wears a 45-Long, but he really wears a 46-Regular.
   44. After pledging to cut the deficit in half within four years, he now
       says it's "impossible."
   45. "I have to be honest with you: The debt is $50 billion a year bigger
       than we were told it was before the election."  He said the fact that
       the deficit was $346 billion was an "unsettling revelation."  But
       the previous July he had said, "The projected deficit is up to $400
   46. The day he presented his economic plan, his people touted its
       $493 billion in "deficit reduction" through 1997.  The correct figure
       was $325 billion.
   47. His deficit projections do not include the cost of the savings-and-
       loan bailout, which could add $25 billion to both fiscal 1993 and
   48. "America has always transcended the hopes and dreams of every other
       nation on Earth."
   49. In July 1992, when a New York federal-appeals court found Bush's
       policy if returning Haitian refugees has violated the Refugee Act,
       Clinton called it "the correct decision."  In March 1993, he went
       to court to argue that his policy of returning Haitian refugees did
       not violate the Refugee Act.
   50. Asked what he'd eaten during a campaign stop at Wendy's, he said
       he'd ordered grilled chicken and a Diet Coke.  He later confessed,
       "I also had a small cup of chili.  I usually get a large."
   51. "I'm trying, I'm really working on this"  -- on his diet.  "Offered
       a choice of lamb, beef or chicken as an an entree, he took all three,
       plus fish chowder, brocolli, salad, bread, and two scoops of apple
       souffle" -- The New Republic, March 15, 1993
   52. Throughout the campaign, he attacked Paul Tsongas's proposals for an
        energy tax, a cut in entitlements and a middle-class tax increase.
   53. "I want people like some of you in this audience to be part of a Clinton
       administration, not because or in spite of your sexual orientation, but
       because America needs you" -- May 1992.  "According to administration
       sources, the White House satisfied itself that [Janet] Reno was not gay
       before going ahead with the nomination" -- Nina Totenberg, March 1993
   54. Asked what role Hillary played in his selection of Reno, he said,
   55. "Our plan seeks to attack subsidies that actually reward companies more
       for shuttling their operations down here and moving them overseas."
       The plan actually rewards companies that do research and development
       here for their plants overseas.
   56. "Large, highly profitable companies will have to pay a greater portion
       of their net earnings in taxes."  Larger depreciation writeoffs mean
       many companies will have lower -- and sometimes nonexistent -- net
       earning to tax.
   57. "We need not just a new generation of leadership but a new gender of
       leadership."  After appointing Dee Dee Myers as the first female press
       secretary, he took away most of her responsibilities and her office
       and gave them to a man.
   58. "I cut the federal bureaucracy by 100,000 positions."  Many of the
       "positions" he cut had not no working in them.
   59. "The time has come to show the American people...that we can not only
       start things, but we can actually stop things."
   60. "We are slashing subsidies."  In the first year of his plan, farm
       subsidies will actually double.
   61. After saying wool and mohair subsidies were World War I anachronisms,
       he cut the program by 6 percent.
   62. "I have already heard some people on the other side of the aisle say,
       'He should have cut more.'  I say, 'Show me where, and be specific --
       not hot air.  Show me where.'"  On March 10 the House Budget Committee's
       Republican members presented an 80-page program that would cut the
       deficit by $429 billion over five years without raising taxes.  They
       were matter-of-factly voted down.
   63. Presented with a two-foot pen symbolizing the presidential line-item
       veto, he told Republican senators, "I surely look forward to using
   64. "I cut the White House staff by 25 percent."  He achieved this by
       defining *staff* to exclude hundreds of military communications
       personnel at the White House, as well as the Trade Representative's
       Office and the Office of Management and Budget.
   65. He went to court in March and argued that his wife was "the functional
       equivalent of a federal employee."  Three days earlier, Hillary had
       told reporters questioning her quasi-federal-employee position, "I
       kind of view myself in some ways as a citizen representative."
   66. "Every day I still get up and I feel a lot of gratitude just for
       having the chance to serve."
   67. He promised, "The old adage 'Mi casa, su casa' will be true when my
       house is the White House," then banned smoking.
   68. About his plan to close many military bases throughout the country,
       he said, "This isn't downsizing for its own sake.  This is right-sizing
       for security's sake.
   69. On why he visited the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt the day he
       unveiled his military-base-closings plan: "I need to be here because
       I'm commander in chief."
   70. "I never broke the laws of my countries."
   71. "If I become president, I will have a Cabinet that looks like America"
       -- July 1992.  Thirteen of his Cabinet's 18 members are lawyers, and
       more than three quarters are millionaires.
   72. "I want to appoint one person, one man or woman, to oversee and
       coordinate all federal efforts [related to AIDS]."  At press time,
       he had not gotten around to it.
   73. "I don't...believe they had a discussion about it, no" -- Stephanopoulos
       on Zoe Baird's illegal nanny.  "It was fully disclosed.  He considered
       it and did not think it was a problem" -- Myers a week later.
   74. Asked whether Clinton was preparing to withdraw Baird's nomination on
       January 21, Stephanopoulos replied, "Not at this point...Right now, Zoe
       Baird is his nominee."  About 13 hours later, Baird withdrew.
   75. "I decided to run for president in 1991 because...I was afraid that the
       American dream was in danger."
   76. "It's not our policy to leak stories about potential nominees"
       -- Stephanopoulos, denying that the White House had told reporters
       that Kimba Wood would be the next attorney general nominee.
   77. At different times, the White House explained that Wood was rejected
       because talk shows wouldn't differentiate between Wood and Zoe Baird,
       because she was "not forthcoming" and, finally, because despite having
       obeyed all applicable laws, she had to meet "a special standard."
   78. "It was never the administration's position that that was an issue,
       and it's unfortunate that that ever was out there" -- Myers, asked if
       the information that Wood had begun training to be a Playboy bunny was
       leaked by someone inside the administration.
   79. The White House also leaked inaccurate stories suggesting that Wood's
       husband, Michael Kramer, had lobbied for Wood under the pretext of
       interviewing Clinton for Time.
   80. Asked about his new personal no-junk-food policy, he clarified, "I
       don't necessarily consider McDonald's junk food."
   81. After work on a $30,000 track behind the White House was temporarily
       halted, the White House said it was waiting until enough money could
       be raised to pay for it.  Joe diGeronimo, president of the Massachusetts
       company building the track, said they stopped working because "it was
   82. After urging Bush to get involved in Bosnia throughout the campaign,
       Clinton announced in February, "I do not believe that the military of
       the United States should get involved unilaterally there now."
   83. "It would be a great mistake to read this... as some initial foray
       toward a wider military role" -- on the Bosnia food drop, early March.
   84. Calling to thank En Vogue for agreeing to back up his brother, Roger,
       he told the group he would come by the party and accompany Roger on the
       sax when they sang "Rock Me, Baby."
   85. He said through a spokeswoman, "The schools in the District of Columbia
       and across the country are good schools."
   86. "He doesn't dye his hair," according to a spokeswoman.
   87. Asked why Hillary Clinton would get a West Wing office, a spokeswoman
       said, "Because the president wanted her to be there."
   88. "Mrs. Clinton was Hillary Rodham Clinton all through the campaign
       and the transition" -- Hillary Rodham Clinton's press secretary.
   89. In January he said, "I'll miss going down to the Y in the morning,
       my blue-collar gym where there's nobody in bright Spandex outfits."
   90. He said, "It is time for us to realize that there is not a government
       program for every problem."
   91. "I'm working on funding it just as close to what I recommended during
       the campaign, about putting people as first as possible" -- on his
       national service program, February 1993.
   92. "Our national service plan will throw open the doors of college
       opportunity to the daughters and sons of the middle class," he said,
       while proposing a program that would create 20,000 jobs in its
       first year, 100,000 after three years.  When the full details of the
       plan were unveiled a week later, it turned out that a summer pilot
       project is open to only 1,000 to 2,000 students.
   93. "We're going to have no sacred cows except the fundamental abiding
       interest of the American people."  And except the Supercollider and
       several other projects in Lloyd Bentsen's home state.
   94. Responding to reports that Clinton is a "closet cigar smoker," an
       aide insisted, "He's not a cigar smoker.  He chews on them."
   95. "[Bush] won't take on the big insurance companies...I will."
       Managed competition, his preferred health-reform plan, helps big
       insurance companies.
   96. He criticized Bush and Reagan for appointing political cronies as
       ambassadors but then appointed Jean Kennedy Smith as ambassador to
       Ireland.  At press time, Democratic doyenne Pamela Harriman was his
       likely choice for ambassador to France, and Swanee Hunt, daughter of
       H.L. Hunt and the Democratic Party's second largest contributor, was
       reported to be the front runner for ambassador to Italy.
   97. Asked last June whom he would put on the Supreme Court, he said, "I
       think Governor [Mario] Cuomo would make a good Supreme Court Justice."
   98. "If we do right by this country, I don't care who gets credit for it."
   99. "If Thomas Jefferson were alive today, I would appoint him Secretary of
       State.  And then I would suggest to Senator Gore that two of us resign
       so he could become president."
  100. "I want one of those great 100 days in which Congress would adopt my
       healthcare and educational policies, my energy and economic initiatives,
       and where the private sector would become

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Re: This and That...
« Reply #4573 on: July 09, 2016, 02:10:50 AM »
"I'm calling to say that you're FIRED, Hillary!"

Hillary Clinton Fired For Lies, Unethical Behavior
By Dan Calabrese - June 13, 2013

Hillary Rodham - 1973

Bet you didn’t know this.

I’ve decided to reprint a piece of work I did nearly five years ago, because it seems very relevant today given Hillary Clinton’s performance in the Benghazi hearings. Back in 2008 when she was running for president, I interviewed two erstwhile staff members of the House Judiciary Committee who were involved with the Watergate investigation when Hillary was a low-level staffer there. I interviewed one Democrat staffer and one Republican staffer, and wrote two pieces based on what they told me about Hillary’s conduct at the time.

I published these pieces back in 2008 for North Star Writers Group, the syndicate I ran at the time. This was the most widely read piece we ever had at NSWG, but because NSWG never gained the high-profile status of the major syndicates, this piece still didn’t reach as many people as I thought it deserved to. Today, given the much broader reach of CainTV and yet another incidence of Hillary’s arrogance in dealing with a congressional committee, I think it deserves another airing. For the purposes of simplicity, I’ve combined the two pieces into one very long one. If you’re interested in understanding the true character of Hillary Clinton, it’s worth your time to read it.

As Hillary Clinton came under increasing scrutiny for her story about facing sniper fire in Bosnia, one question that arose was whether she has engaged in a pattern of lying.

The now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary when she worked on the Watergate investigation, says Hillary’s history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther – and goes much deeper – than anyone realizes.

Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.


“Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

How could a 27-year-old House staff member do all that? She couldn’t do it by herself, but Zeifman said she was one of several individuals – including Marshall, special counsel John Doar and senior associate special counsel (and future Clinton White House Counsel) Bernard Nussbaum – who engaged in a seemingly implausible scheme to deny Richard Nixon the right to counsel during the investigation.

Why would they want to do that? Because, according to Zeifman, they feared putting Watergate break-in mastermind E. Howard Hunt on the stand to be cross-examined by counsel to the president. Hunt, Zeifman said, had the goods on nefarious activities in the Kennedy Administration that would have made Watergate look like a day at the beach – including Kennedy’s purported complicity in the attempted assassination of Fidel Castro.

The actions of Hillary and her cohorts went directly against the judgment of top Democrats, up to and including then-House Majority Leader Tip O’Neill, that Nixon clearly had the right to counsel. Zeifman says that Hillary, along with Marshall, Nussbaum and Doar, was determined to gain enough votes on the Judiciary Committee to change House rules and deny counsel to Nixon. And in order to pull this off, Zeifman says Hillary wrote a fraudulent legal brief, and confiscated public documents to hide her deception.

The brief involved precedent for representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding. When Hillary endeavored to write a legal brief arguing there is no right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding, Zeifman says, he told Hillary about the case of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, who faced an impeachment attempt in 1970.

“As soon as the impeachment resolutions were introduced by (then-House Minority Leader Gerald) Ford, and they were referred to the House Judiciary Committee, the first thing Douglas did was hire himself a lawyer,” Zeifman said.

The Judiciary Committee allowed Douglas to keep counsel, thus establishing the precedent. Zeifman says he told Hillary that all the documents establishing this fact were in the Judiciary Committee’s public files. So what did Hillary do?

“Hillary then removed all the Douglas files to the offices where she was located, which at that time was secured and inaccessible to the public,” Zeifman said. Hillary then proceeded to write a legal brief arguing there was no precedent for the right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding – as if the Douglas case had never occurred.

The brief was so fraudulent and ridiculous, Zeifman believes Hillary would have been disbarred if she had submitted it to a judge.

Zeifman says that if Hillary, Marshall, Nussbaum and Doar had succeeded, members of the House Judiciary Committee would have also been denied the right to cross-examine witnesses, and denied the opportunity to even participate in the drafting of articles of impeachment against Nixon.

Of course, Nixon’s resignation rendered the entire issue moot, ending Hillary’s career on the Judiciary Committee staff in a most undistinguished manner. Zeifman says he was urged by top committee members to keep a diary of everything that was happening. He did so, and still has the diary if anyone wants to check the veracity of his story. Certainly, he could not have known in 1974 that diary entries about a young lawyer named Hillary Rodham would be of interest to anyone 34 years later.

But they show that the pattern of lies, deceit, fabrications and unethical behavior was established long ago – long before the Bosnia lie, and indeed, even before cattle futures, Travelgate and Whitewater – for the woman who is still asking us to make her president of the United States.

Franklin Polk, who served at the time as chief Republican counsel on the committee, confirmed many of these details in two interviews he granted me this past Friday, although his analysis of events is not always identical to Zeifman’s. Polk specifically confirmed that Hillary wrote the memo in question, and confirmed that Hillary ignored the Douglas case. (He said he couldn’t confirm or dispel the part about Hillary taking the Douglas files.)

To Polk, Hillary’s memo was dishonest in the sense that she tried to pretend the Douglas precedent didn’t exist. But unlike Zeifman, Polk considered the memo dishonest in a way that was more stupid than sinister.

“Hillary should have mentioned that (the Douglas case), and then tried to argue whether that was a change of policy or not instead of just ignoring it and taking the precedent out of the opinion,” Polk said.

Polk recalled that the attempt to deny counsel to Nixon upset a great many members of the committee, including just about all the Republicans, but many Democrats as well.

“The argument sort of broke like a firestorm on the committee, and I remember Congressman Don Edwards was very upset,” Polk said. “He was the chairman of the subcommittee on constitutional rights. But in truth, the impeachment precedents are not clear. Let’s put it this way. In the old days, from the beginning of the country through the 1800s and early 1900s, there were precedents that the target or accused did not have the right to counsel.”

That’s why Polk believes Hillary’s approach in writing the memorandum was foolish. He says she could have argued that the Douglas case was an isolated example, and that other historical precedents could apply.

But Zeifman says the memo and removal of the Douglas files was only part the effort by Hillary, Doar, Nussbaum and Marshall to pursue their own agenda during the investigation.

After my first column, some readers wrote in claiming Zeifman was motivated by jealousy because he was not appointed as the chief counsel in the investigation, with that title going to Doar instead.

Zeifman’s account is that he supported the appointment of Doar because he, Zeifman, a) did not want the public notoriety that would come with such a high-profile role; and b) didn’t have much prosecutorial experience. When he started to have a problem with Doar and his allies was when Zeifman and others, including House Majority Leader Tip O’Neill and Democratic committee member Jack Brooks of Texas, began to perceive Doar’s group as acting outside the directives and knowledge of the committee and its chairman, Peter Rodino.

(O’Neill died in 1994. Brooks is still living and I tried unsuccessfully to reach him. I’d still like to.)

This culminated in a project to research past presidential abuses of power, which committee members felt was crucial in aiding the decisions they would make in deciding how to handle Nixon’s alleged offenses.

According to Zeifman and other documents, Doar directed Hillary to work with a group of Yale law professors on this project. But the report they generated was never given to the committee. Zeifman believes the reason was that the report was little more than a whitewash of the Kennedy years – a part of the Burke Marshall-led agenda of avoiding revelations during the Watergate investigation that would have embarrassed the Kennedys.

The fact that the report was kept under wraps upset Republican committee member Charles Wiggins of California, who wrote a memo to his colleagues on the committee that read in part:

Within the past few days, some disturbing information has come to my attention. It is requested that the facts concerning the matter be investigated and a report be made to the full committee as it concerns us all.

Early last spring when it became obvious that the committee was considering presidential “abuse of power” as a possible ground of impeachment, I raised the question before the full committee that research should be undertaken so as to furnish a standard against which to test the alleged abusive conduct of Richard Nixon.

As I recall, several other members joined with me in this request. I recall as well repeating this request from time to time during the course of our investigation. The staff, as I recall, was noncommittal, but it is certain that no such staff study was made available to the members at any time for their use.

Wiggins believed the report was purposely hidden from committee members. Chairman Rodino denied this, and said the reason Hillary’s report was not given to committee members was that it contained no value. It’s worth noting, of course, that the staff member who made this judgment was John Doar.

In a four-page reply to Wiggins, Rodino wrote in part:

Hillary Rodham of the impeachment inquiry staff coordinated the work. . . . After the staff received the report it was reviewed by Ms. Rodham, briefly by Mr. Labovitz and Mr. Sack, and by Doar. The staff did not think the manuscript was useful in its present form. . . .

In your letter you suggest that members of the staff may have intentionally suppressed the report during the course of its investigation. That was not the case.

As a matter of fact, Mr. Doar was more concerned that any highlight of the project might prejudice the case against President Nixon. The fact is that the staff did not think the material was usable by the committee in its existing form and had not had time to modify it so it would have practical utility for the members of the committee. I was informed and agreed with the judgment.

Mr. Labovitz, by the way, was John Labovitz, another member of the Democratic staff. I spoke with Labovitz this past Friday as well, and he is no fan of Jerry Zeifman.

“If it’s according to Zeifman, it’s inaccurate from my perspective,” Labovitz said. He bases that statement on a recollection that Zeifman did not actually work on the impeachment inquiry staff, although that is contradicted not only by Zeifman but Polk as well.

Labovitz said he has no knowledge of Hillary having taken any files, and defended her no-right-to-counsel memo on the grounds that, if she was assigned to write a memo arguing a point of view, she was merely following orders.

But as both Zeifman and Polk point out, that doesn’t mean ignoring background of which you are aware, or worse, as Zeifman alleges, confiscating documents that disprove your argument.

All told, Polk recalls the actions of Hillary, Doar and Nussbaum as more amateurish than anything else.

“Of course the Republicans went nuts,” Polk said. “But so did some of the Democrats – some of the most liberal Democrats. It was more like these guys – Doar and company – were trying to manage the members of Congress, and it was like, ‘Who’s in charge here?’ If you want to convict a president, you want to give him all the rights possible. If you’re going to give him a trial, for him to say, ‘My rights were denied,’ – it was a stupid effort by people who were just politically tone deaf. So this was a big deal to people in the proceedings on the committee, no question about it. And Jerry Zeifman went nuts, and rightfully so. But my reaction wasn’t so much that it was underhanded as it was just stupid.”

Polk recalls Zeifman sharing with him at the time that he believed Hillary’s primary role was to report back to Burke Marshall any time the investigation was taking a turn that was not to the liking of the Kennedys.

“Jerry used to give the chapter and verse as to how Hillary was the mole into the committee works as to how things were going,” Polk said. “And she’d be feeding information back to Burke Marshall, who, at least according to Jerry, was talking to the Kennedys. And when something was off track in the view of the Kennedys, Burke Marshall would call John Doar or something, and there would be a reconsideration of what they were talking about. Jerry used to tell me that this was Hillary’s primary function.”

Zeifman says he had another staff member get him Hillary’s phone records, which showed that she was calling Burke Marshall at least once a day, and often several times a day.

A final note about all this: I wrote my first column on this subject because, in the aftermath of Hillary being caught in her Bosnia fib, I came in contact with Jerry Zeifman and found his story compelling. Zeifman has been trying to tell his story for many years, and the mainstream media have ignored him. I thought it deserved an airing as a demonstration of how early in her career Hillary began engaging in self-serving, disingenuous conduct.

Disingenuously arguing a position? Vanishing documents? Selling out members of her own party to advance a personal agenda? Classic Hillary. Neither my first column on the subject nor this one were designed to show that Hillary is dishonest. I don’t really think that’s in dispute. Rather, they were designed to show that she has been this way for a very long time – a fact worth considering for anyone contemplating voting for her for president of the United States.

By the way, there’s something else that started a long time ago.

“She would go around saying, ‘I’m dating a person who will some day be president,’” Polk said. “It was like a Babe Ruth call. And because of that comment she made, I watched Bill Clinton’s political efforts as governor of Arkansas, and I never counted him out because she had made that forecast.”

Bill knew what he wanted a long time ago. Clearly, so did Hillary, and her tactics for trying to achieve it were established even in those early days.

Vote wisely.

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