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Politics / To the people on the right....
« on: July 17, 2010, 05:47:17 PM »
I'd like to submit an open letter.  You're rantings, name calling, and judgmental attitudes have caused the level of discourse on this forum to dramatically deteriorate.  Furthermore, Some people have decided that we should start having religious debates here on the thread.  There is a forum to discuss religious matters, although it is not for debating.  Many of you seem to not appreciate people who disagree with your religious viewpoints.  In fact, some of you claim that the majority of self-proclaimed Christians on this forum aren't real Christians.  It's not up to you to decide that, and this isn't the place to try. 

The supposed "moderator" of this forum is one of the worst offenders, so I encourage everyone to not wait for the moderator to try and regain control.  Please impose some sort of standards on your own conduct.  I know its easy to say the terrible things you say when you aren't facing the person you are spewing your insults to, but remember that there is always someone watching you.  Anger and hatred feed off each other and themselves.  If you can't control those feelings, you may want to take a break from the forums.

Politics / Update to an old thread re: Bin Laden
« on: November 29, 2009, 02:14:08 AM »
Awhile back, i posted that i thought our government wasn't really trying to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden.  The senate took the opportunity of the crazy shopping weekend to release a report that pretty much explains that although we had the chance to capture him, we chose not to.

Of course, a link to the actual report is as follows:

Interesting stuff, the policy of the Bush regime was to keep as few troops on the ground in Afghanistan as possible and to limit their engagements with the Taliban and Al Queda

Politics / Veterans
« on: November 11, 2009, 09:31:52 AM »
Thank you all for your service.

Miscellaneous / Buyer Beware
« on: November 05, 2009, 09:19:13 PM »
A guy is driving around the back woods of Montana and he sees a sign in front of a broken down shanty-style house: 'Talking Dog For Sale ' He rings the bell and the owner appears and tells him the dog is in the backyard.

The guy goes into the backyard and sees a nice looking Labrador retriever sitting there.

'You talk?' he asks.

'Yep,' the Lab replies.

After the guy recovers from the shock of hearing a dog talk, he says 'So, what's your story?'

The Lab looks up and says, 'Well, I discovered that I could talk when I was pretty young. I wanted to help the government, so I told the CIA. In no time at all they had me jetting from country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders, because no one figured a dog would be eavesdropping.'

'I was one of their most valuable spies for eight years running. But the jetting around really tired me out, and I knew I wasn't getting any younger so I decided to settle down. I signed up for a job at the airport to do some undercover security, wandering near suspicious characters and listening in. I uncovered some incredible dealings and was awarded a batch of medals.''I got married, had a mess of puppies, and now I'm just retired.'

The guy is amazed. He goes back in and asks the owner what he wants for the dog.

'Ten dollars,' the guy says.

'Ten dollars? This dog is amazing! Why on earth are you selling him so cheap?'

'Because he's a liar... He never did any of that stuff.

Politics / Todd Tiahrt
« on: October 30, 2009, 01:16:45 PM »
Looks like the representative from Southeastern Kansas is under investigation for ethics violations.  It is suspected that as a member of the defense appropriations subcomittee, he took bribes to steer contracts towards certain companies.

Politics / Caught spying, again....
« on: October 19, 2009, 07:46:52 PM »
Can you guess which country spies on the US the most?

Politics / Torture
« on: August 25, 2009, 12:11:44 PM »
Just trying to get a consensus and maybe start a discussion.  For those of you who missed it, the Justice department announced a special prosecuter to look into the actions of the previous administration.

Also for reference, the definition of torture is...

1.    the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty.
2.    a method of inflicting such pain.
3.    Often, tortures. the pain or suffering caused or undergone.
4.    extreme anguish of body or mind; agony.
5.    a cause of severe pain or anguish.

The Coffee Shop / Area Cafes
« on: August 18, 2009, 01:43:15 PM »
I'll soon be visiting Elk county, and i'm wondering if the Cafe in Grenola is still around.  I heard something about a fire but i didn't get all the details. 

Politics / Who would you like to be president
« on: August 03, 2009, 04:07:47 PM »
I'm just curious to see what the general consensus is of people reading these forums. 

Poetry / Uncivilized
« on: July 27, 2009, 06:54:35 PM »
One of my favorites....

Edmund Vance Cooke

An ancient ape, once on a time,
Disliked exceedingly to climb,
And so he picked him out a tree
And said, "Now this belongs to me.
I have a hunch that monks are mutts
And I can make them gather nuts
And bring the bulk of them to me,
By claiming title to this tree."

He took a green leaf and a reed
And wrote himself a title deed,
Proclaiming pompously and slow:
"All monkeys by these presents know".
Next morning when the monkeys came
To gather nuts, he made his claim:
"All monkeys climbing on this tree
Must bring their gathered nuts to me,
Cracking the same on equal shares;
The meats are mine, the shells are theirs."

"But by what right?"  they cried, amazed,
Thinking the ape was surely crazed
By this", he answered;  "if you'll read
You'll find it is a title deed,
made in precise and formal shape
And sworn before a fellow ape,
Exactly on the legal plan
Used by that wondrous creature, man,
In London, Tokyo, New York,
Glengarry, Kalamazoo and Cork.

Unless my deed is recognized,
It proves you quite uncivilized."
"But", said one monkey, "You will agree
It was not you who made this tree."
"Nor", said the ape, serene and bland,
"Does any owner make his land,
Yet all of its hereditaments
Are his and figure in the rents. "

The puzzled monkeys sat about
They could not make the question out.
Plainly, by precedent and law,
The ape's procedure showed no flaw;
And yet, no matter what he said;
The stomach still denied the head.

Up spoke one sprightly monkey then:
"Monkeys are monkeys, men are men;
The ape should try his legal capers
On men who say respect his papers.
We don't know deeds; we do know nuts,
And spite of 'ifs' and 'ands' and 'buts'
We know who gathers and unmeats 'em,
By monkey practice also eats 'em.
So tell the ape and all his flunkies
No man tricks can be played on monkeys"
Thus, apes still climb to get their food,
Since monkeys' minds are crass and crude
And monkeys, all so ill-advised,
Still eat their nuts, uncivilized.

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