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Title: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on August 14, 2015, 09:47:11 AM
I guess since Ross has decided what is political and what is not ,I'll start a new thread about my east coast opinions. I don't consider everything political that he does, but since he thinks he knows about all things political, I'll go along with it. For some reason he thinks he has to follow me where ever I go. Be warned this might not be pretty!.
  Now where was I . 8)  Oh, yes, Ross ridiculed me again on my/the  east coast site when he pretended he didn't know what I was talking about. He said some weird thing about "four face book."sic. He does get so agitated sometimes, perhaps he really doesn't remember what he writes...so the easy way out it is to deny it and call me a liar. Here it is.
He was complaining about Elk Konnected AGAIN and ridiculing me over it.
#599... "You also had the members log into four personal face book." Sic  Would any of you know what that meant? I sure didn't. He never did understand what EK was trying to do and resented it/them from the beginning. Is any of this important today? I don't think so, but even after all this time, he's still stuck on it.
  When I have more time I will look up those posts of his from 'way back again and put them on here. He doesn't think I'll actually do it, but why should I protect him? Let him stew for a change. Maybe we should pick them all apart word by word and make up critiques of every detail that might be wrong with them. No? Nah, I didn't think so either.
  I have never gone so low as to let him have it as rudely as I could have. My Kansas upbringing and my
Christianity won't let me do that. He has handed me opportunities on platters many times, but I won't take advantage of them, as my friends out there know that I wouldn't.
It gets old doesn't it? I think so too.  Enough for now. We'll see what happens next. Friday used to always be complaint day, so I've even done this the correct day! HA!
This "independent- centrist- leaning- toward -libertarian," (or so say all those fun political label quizzes) signing off. Chuckle,chuckle. If squabbling politics isn't your thing, perhaps this isn't what you want to read.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on August 14, 2015, 11:59:29 AM



quote author=Diane Amberg link=topic=17068.msg225995#msg225995 date=1439567231]
I guess since Ross has decided what is political and what is not ,I'll start a new thread about my east coast opinions. I don't consider everything political that he does, but since he thinks he knows about all things political, I'll go along with it. For some reason he thinks he had to follow me where ever I go. [/quote]

You are like a snake slithering through the grass, only you do it in life, you have got the twisties so bad in everything you post it is just pathetic.

I never thought, I had to follow you.
You called out my name, requesting my presence just as you have with this thread. The very 4th word of your very first post in this new thread is Ross. Do you comprehend, it is all about your infatuation of me.

You dear Diane, do the political stuff and then try to claim it is not political, that just simply does not fly.
Perhaps you should look up the definition of Politics? The definition covers many, many things and one is simply the practice and theory of influencing other people. Consequently anything can be considered political in nature.

And most every time, I have responded to your posts, it was to correct your lies and your back-stabbing ways and/or your name calling.

That is what you did in your coffee shop thread, you ran there with your lies and political back-stabbing and name calling .

Do you really have an education?
Do you really even possess a high school diploma?

quote author=Diane Amberg link=topic=17068.msg225995#msg225995 date=1439567231
  Now where was I . 8) Oh,yes, Ross ridiculed me again on my east coast site when he pretended he didn't know what I was talking about.He said some weird thing about "four face book."sic. He does get so agitated sometimes, perhaps he really doesn't remember what he writes...so the easy way out it is to deny it and call me a liar. Here it is. [/quote]

You are easily ridiculed if that is what you think I was doing!

And I did not call you a liar about your "four face book." remark. Why do you feel the need to say or imply such a thing?

Your education, if you have an education, sure would have come in handy with that, or maybe just a little common sense would have helped or throw in some comprehension.

Of course, you were reading a simple typographical error. And I was not calling you a liar about this simple typographical error, which would be beyond stupid. That is some piss poor comprehension on your part.

quote author=Diane Amberg link=topic=17068.msg225995#msg225995 date=1439567231
#599 "You also had the members log into four personal face book." Sic
[/quote]

Your remark:
Quote from: Diane Amberg on August 13, 2015, 06:32:22 AM

Four different face books? I have no idea what that means. (Yawn)
 

And my response:
Quote from: ROSS on August 13, 2015, 09:06:19 PM

What about four different facebooks?
What are you talking about?
Are you seeing double, twice?
You need help in a bad way!


Where do you see the word liar in that response, pray tell.

Had you made that remark, "You also had the members log into four personal face book." It is easy to see, it is a typographical error. And if you recall, it was in the context of your Elk Konnected friends logging on to your personal facebook. And I quote mself:


Here is that point, quoted:
Quote from: ROSS on August 12, 2015, 10:36:07 AM

You supported every move Elk Konnected and opposed any one who said other wise. You also had the members log into four personal facebook. You even chose to stop calling the Elk Konnected and calling them EK which is a bit more personal in nature.


Your communications skills are really lacking, and you want to blame me for that!
That is, the way of a good extreme left liberal, they blame someone else for their shortcomings.

You have earned my pity and sympathy and that is partly, because you felt you had to start this thread in order to attempt to poke me in the eye.

What a terrible ruse.

But still you are so much fun and entertaining!
So it has been my pleasure to try to commuicate with you.
I am not the least bit offendeed by your liberalism.



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on August 14, 2015, 02:33:42 PM
 Already he's here?  :P
Nope, doesn't fly.. not a simple typo. I never "had" anyone sign on any face book, let alone four of them.
  As for the "rules" for me, the ones he says he doesn't have. (Why does he follow me?) If I mention his name he must, according to him, appear like the dumb Jinn in the bottle did, and we all know what happened to him.
Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Other "rules"...suggestions, orders, demands, commands, for me. I must type better, ;) I must never post anything HE considers political (on my own thread) in all his wisdom. I'm supposed to get after others who have at him. Why? I love it when others go after him too. Keeps me from being lonely. ;)  HA!
I suppose I'm expected to submit anything I wish to post for his approval first. Nope, not gonna happen. I didn't expect him to chase me down until tomorrow. It's a disease.
  I'm expecting verbal spit wads now since he seems to have run out of anemic worn down, used up, repeated ad nauseam attempts at insults.
I'm done and ready to go talk local politics and crack crabs.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on August 19, 2015, 09:46:30 AM
School taxes here where I live can't be raised without a referendum.They are very expensive to have and the last two failed.Now to hear it, you'd think they were going to have to close down schools.Yet Newark Charter thrives without nearly the money Christina School District spends on extra administrators and "out of classroom" expenses.
The charter schools get accused of stealing the top students.That can't happen if the parents don't apply.Perhaps the regular public schools should find out WHY the parents take their kids out of some of the public schools and fix the problems. It will be interesting to watch the petition there.I wonder how many signatures he will get? If he writes with the same attitude he speaks he might get punched.
   I saw something on face book yesterday that really made me laugh. (This is not quite a quote.) A person can be insulted and attacked until they have had enough and fight back.Then THEY are the bad guy. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: proelkco on August 19, 2015, 12:27:53 PM
You are not a liar and I enjoy your posts.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on August 19, 2015, 09:26:10 PM


Quote from: Diane Amberg on August 14, 2015, 02:33:42 PM
Already he's here?  :P
Nope, doesn't fly.. not a simple typo. I never "had" anyone sign on any face book, let alone four of them.
  As for the "rules" for me, the ones he says he doesn't have. (Why does he follow me?) If I mention his name he must, according to him, appear like the dumb Jinn in the bottle did, and we all know what happened to him. Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.

I do not follow you. You call for me as explained fully on your other thread. It is you infatuation with my superior intellect.

Oh yes, you had and probably still do have Elk Konnected folks signed on to your facebook. They could not be on your friends list with out your acceptance. And no one said anythng about four, so why lie?

Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.                Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.                  Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.                Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.

 
 
Quote from: Diane Amberg on August 14, 2015, 02:33:42 PM
Other "rules"...suggestions, orders, demands, commands, for me. I must type better, ;) I must never post anything HE considers political (on my own thread) in all his wisdom. I'm supposed to get after others who have at him. Why? I love it when others go after him too. Keeps me from being lonely. ;)  HA!
I suppose I'm expected to submit anything I wish to post for his approval first. Nope, not gonna happen. I didn't expect him to chase me down until tomorrow. It's a disease.

Boy what a load of crap. The fact is you got after someone else for their attacks but refused to say anything about your friend joesue and her numerous attacks on several people, not just myself. You have a real problem dealing with the truth. Much like most left wing liberals. Them left wing liberals get caught with their drawers down they immediately start lying. And it was you that was busy trying to correct other peoples spelling and punctuation because you were a teacher. Thank God , you use to be a teacher. Why? Because of all you bullying on this forum.

Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.                Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.                  Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.                Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on August 14, 2015, 02:33:42 PM
  I'm expecting verbal spit wads now since he seems to have run out of anemic worn down, used up, repeated ad nauseam attempts at insults.
I'm done and ready to go talk local politics and crack crabs.

You sure think you are smart with Putting out such garbage, don't you?
Remember the remarks you made when I used the figure of speech, "Throwing spit wads at the teacher."
You took it literally instead of figuratively and now you choose, to use the term spit wad on me. Not very original, Diane. But I guess originality does not come with that diploma ya got, does it.

In the Navy the method of dealing with crabs was to tell the green kids ya shave one side, set the other side on fire and stab them little crabs as they run out of the fire. LOL

You will never be done with your attempts at putting someone, anyone down. And your infatuation with me will probably never end. You will continue to call whether by name or something else. And I seriously enjoy responding, because I know it makes your day.

Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.                Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.                  Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.                Yuk,Yuk,Yuk.

I am assuming the Yuk,Yuk,Yuk shows the depth of your intellect so I thought I'd enhance it for you.
I hope you appreciate my effort to spread you intellect a little more across the page, it's because I care.

Now go and bask in all the great knowledge I have shared with you.
And have a good night.

If you don't want to hear from me, control your infatuation and stop calling me back. Okay, OK!

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on August 20, 2015, 08:10:00 AM
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I can't believe you actually don't remember your own post! "You also had the members log on to four different face book." That's a complete quote.  # 599 in the other thread. That's four..your words.F-O-U-R. Now should I call YOU a liar for denying it? Nah, not worth the effort.
Also I have ONE Facebook page with lots of friends from all over. I could care less if they are EK connected or not, are now or ever were .That's not what we talk about.
Off to do other things.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on August 31, 2015, 10:28:36 AM
Once again it has been proven that Elk County has many delightful people,some who were wise enough to bail out of the forum, and some really,really odd ones still on it who have to have the last word on any subject and make anything anyone says mean what they want it to, and in the process aggrandize themselves. 
  I have been very entertained recently by The Donald. Being an old bush wacker from 'way back, he knows just how to appeal to a big segment of people, who don't understand how complicated world politics really are. Everything is connected and one can't untangle that overnight.
So now I'm being accused of being a "mouthpiece"...for whom I do not know. In what context? Who cares, I sure don't. I won't be interacting with Him anyway .As of tomorrow I won't have time. My summer fun time is over.
He can rant and rave and try to insult me, but it bounces right back on him, as any decent person knows. I  won't be seeing any of it, and I don't care if he believes it or not.
   It will be interesting to see how his petition turns out. I suspect something will show up in the paper.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on August 31, 2015, 11:37:07 AM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on August 31, 2015, 10:28:36 AM

. So nowI'm being accused of being a "mouthpiece"...for whom I do not know.In what context? Who cares,I sure don't. I won't be interacting with Him anyway .


Unlike a person who does a lot of back-stabbing, I am straight forward. I don't go around starting politics in the coffee shop and then start a new thread hoping to get away with the back-stabbing.

You said many, many times you have people here in Elk County, Kansas feeding you information in Delaware. Consequently making you their mouth-piece. Not a fabrication but a fact.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on August 31, 2015, 10:28:36 AM

   It will be interesting to see how his petetion turns out. I suspect something will show up in the paper.


This is a petition of the people, for the people and by the people in one Elk County school district.
With out the people it would simply be just a piece of paper.

There really shouldn't be much that happens. The petition simply disallows the school board from running their end play around the voters. If they want an 8 mill 5 year property tax hike they will have to justify it to the voters and property owners.

It simply means they can not behave like the Federal Government that keeps demanding the debt ceiling, only here it is the property tax ceiling. No real difference.

It simply means they come to the people who own the school and the people they work for.

It is all very simple.

If we can not keep our elected officials in line on the local level we sure can't on the Federal level, now can we Diane? 

Bye-bye Diane time for me to head to the County Commissioners meeting?

When was the last time you attended a County Commissioners Meeting or School Board Meeting?





Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: proelkco on August 31, 2015, 05:23:30 PM
Nice to hear from you Diane. I am proud of you for standing up for yourself and asking questions. HE is the one that cannot comprehend. Typos are excusable for HIM but no one else.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on August 31, 2015, 08:30:30 PM
Quote from: proelkco on August 31, 2015, 05:23:30 PM
Nice to hear from you Diane. I am proud of you for standing up for yourself and asking questions. HE is the one that cannot comprehend. Typos are excusable for HIM but no one else.

Now you know that is not true about the typo's Proelkco.

Diane iis always correcting everyones spelling because at one time she was a teacher. She has been doing it for a long time and has been scolded by several posters as the spelling police.

I just gave her a little taste of what it is like. And I have not made a habit of it as she did.

I have said many times, I am human and make errors.

Have you or Diane said the same thing?

And i see it's alright by you for Diane to ask questions --- how is that if it is not okay for me to ask questions?

Oop's that was a question!

Oh well!

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 01, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Hi Pro. As you know, one cannot have a conversation with "you know who." He turns everything into a battle and loves the challenge of trying to make people look bad, according to his personal set of rules. Of course his rules are set to give him an advantage.
I wonder who he thinks I'm a mouth piece for? I don't think he knows what the word means. I speak just for me and my own opinions.
I see he posted here again. I didn't read it..put him back on ignore . I don't need the insults and put downs today, just because I'm here and not there.
  He'll never stop me from being interested in what goes on out there. I'm too connected to Elk County to stop caring.
I do make lots of typos, but I can spell...he can't do either and doesn't even try, hoping I'll rise to his bait.  I truly don't know why he seems to have to have the last word on anything I write. I shouldn't be that important.
I gave up on trying to help him with his spelling and grammar some time ago. He didn't even notice.
In the meantime, I feel so sad about Roma Jean's passing. I really enjoyed her.  Have a nice day! It's getting hot here again.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 01, 2015, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 01, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Hi Pro. As you know, one cannot have a conversation with "you know who." He turns everything into a battle and loves the challenge of trying to make people look bad, according to his personal set of rules. Of course his rules are set to give him an advantage.

Hi Pro, As you may not know is it is Diane that runs around on the forum trying to back-stab people over politics. Such as the statement above, "you know who.". LOL

And you may not know how she twists everything to make her appear the victim of everyone on the forum.
And you may not know what a drama queen she is.
And do you know she calls everything a battle, not a conversation.

Really Pro I don't set any rules on this forum, they are set by the owners, who I greatly respect for their ethics and morals and for providing this method of communications.

I have never contacted the owners to complain about this free tool as some have and been denied their demands. Some people have no shame.

If you notice in the statement above it is Diane that is trying to limit communications, not me.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 01, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
I wonder who he thinks I'm a mouth piece for. I don't think he knows what the word means. I speak just for me and my own opinions.

Sure Diane I know well what the word means here is a definition from Merriam Webster just for you:
"one that expresses another's views :  spokesman". See it was nothing bad, as I am to assume you thought it was. I was not being ugly, now do I need to define "ugly" for you?

And your friend Proelkco recognized me as a mouth-piece which I thanked him for. You see I am not a name dropper without the consent of the person who owns the name. I respect the person.

You spent a great deal of speaking for Elk Konnected as second hand knowledge because you live in Delaware instead of in Elk County, Kansas and had no first hand knowledge and you put down everything that anyone said about Elk Konnected you didn't like. And spent a great deal of time being the spelling and grammer police in an attempt to confuse matters.


Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 01, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
I see he posted here again. I didn't read it..put him back on ignore . I don't need the insults and put downs today, just because I'm here and not there.

Oh sure Diane everyone is going to believe that you did not read my post, just like they are going to believe that I have ocean front property in Elk County, Kansas for sale. ROFLMAO!

And we all know that ignore has never worked for you, so that drama doesn't work either.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 01, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
  He'll never stop me from being interested in what goes on out there.

Now that statement makes a whole lot of sense  I'm not trying to stop you from being interested but you see,
it is my civic duty as a property owner and voter to be very interested in what goes on here.
You don't see me sticking my nose in your local affairs in Delaware do you?
Why do you suppose I don't?
Because I don't live there and I don't vote there. In other words I have no say, so why waste my time.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 01, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
I'm too connected to Elk County to stop caring.

Caring about what Diane?
Caring about the wrong doing and correcting it or being apart of the wrongdoing?
Even, if you have no real say, no vote? What do you have to gain?


Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 01, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
I do make lots of typos, but I can spell...he can't do either and doesn't even try, hoping I'll rise to his bait.  I truly don't know why he seems to have to have the last word on anything I write. I shouldn't be that important.

And my typo's are mispellings, I get it. Good show ole girrl.
I don't bait you, you set yourself up with your drama queen attitude, don't blame me.
You have blamed plenty of people for your own errors, suck it up.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 01, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
I gave up on trying to help him with his spelling and grammar some time ago. He didn't even notice.
In the meantime, Have a nice day! It's getting hot here again.

First to be honest and open I removed the remark about the deceased, out of respect for the deceased. I won't even quote that in this political section. I find it rather tacky in politics.

But now Diane did I or anyone else on this forum ever ask you to be their mentor, did any of them ask you to correct their grammar or spelling?  "NO" !

And before you can mentor anyone you should correct your own errors. That long bar at the bottom oof your key board is called a space bar, you might familiarize yourself with it.

As always it is my pleasure to respond to your posts.
I really enjoy trying to communicate with you.
It is a real challenge do to your problems.

T patiently await your response or you telling someone else, you know what it's all about "you know who".
That method of calling me is so cute of you. I know your infatuation with me won;t let you stop calling me.
Perhaps that's because I'm not one of those figments of your imagination but a real person.

Bye-bye until you call again.

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: proelkco on September 01, 2015, 06:51:38 PM
Diane thank you for continuing to care about Elk County. And yes I do believe when you put HIM on ignore. Any idiot would know you are just interested.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Joesue23 on September 01, 2015, 07:18:51 PM
Diane, you must be talking about Ross, I still ignore the rude idiot. From what the people I know in Howard and Elk County, tell me you have way more ties to Elk County than Toss does. Your family were long time Elk County and Howard Residents and your Uncle  and Granddad worked for one of Elk county's prominent families. You need to ignore Ross.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 01, 2015, 08:14:27 PM
Quote from: Joesue23 on September 01, 2015, 07:18:51 PM
Diane, you must be talking about Ross, I still ignore the rude idiot. From what the people I know in Howard and Elk County, tell me you have way more ties to Elk County than Toss does. Your family were long time Elk County and Howard Residents and your Uncle  and Granddad worked for one of Elk county's prominent families. You need to ignore Ross.


ROFLMAO        ROFLMAO        ROFLMAO         ROFLMAO         ROFLMAO        ROFLMAO            ROFLMAO
ROFLMAO        ROFLMAO        ROFLMAO         ROFLMAO         ROFLMAO        ROFLMAO            ROFLMAO


DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WAS AND IS?

They was and I is!  LOL

Elk Konnected was talking about Quality of Life but could not define it.

I on the other hand am trying with a lot of time and effort to help senior citizens maintain their present Quality of Life.

Can you or your was-es or Diane say the same thing?

I have recieved calls from people wanting to help and I have recieved an awful lot of thank yous for my efforts.

Once again I ask, "Can you or your was-es or Diane say the same thing?"

The people you know in Howard are apparently imaginary or why don't they speak up?
What are they afraid of ?   Diane says the same things and it really goes nowhere.

You just keep trying to pput me down, I find it humorous.  I enjoy it!
Why?
Because who does it really make look bad?   

                                                                    It sure isn't me. LOL

But if being honest and doing for others is rude, I enjoy being rude!

I just finished baking a big cassarole of old fashioned bread pudding for my family and they are loving it.

So I'm out of here to enjoy a big helping of it myself.


Bye-bye Joesue.

Oh I had to come back and ask how's Montgomery County, Kansas treating you?
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 01, 2015, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: proelkco on September 01, 2015, 06:51:38 PM
Diane thank you for continuing to care about Elk County. And yes I do believe when you put HIM on ignore. Any idiot would know you are just interested.


I have some ocean front water here in Elk County, Kansas, can I get a bid on it?
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 01, 2015, 08:28:14 PM


Oh boy was that home made old fashioned bread pudding turned out really delicious.

I screwed up and got it right, yummy ---gotta go back for more.

Shame on me, huh?

I'll burn it off tomorrow. LOL
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: redcliffsw on September 02, 2015, 06:02:28 AM
Quote from: proelkco on September 01, 2015, 06:51:38 PM
Diane thank you for continuing to care about Elk County. And yes I do believe when you put HIM on ignore. Any idiot would know you are just interested.


Oh well . . . . . .
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 02, 2015, 07:01:08 AM
Thanks Pro and JS. I appreciate the kind comments. I have never felt like an outsider there. :-*
I have not read any of Ross's last few posts and I'm sure I don't need to. I can just guess what he had to say, none of it nice or complimentary and all of it refuting anything I or anyone else said.
I'm sure he got another crack in about how I don't live there and don't pay taxes there, as if that's all there is to it.
I am very interested in how his petition business turns out. Apparently ,except for showing it to the school board it, has no weight at all and can cause nothing to happen. I thought it might legally force a voter referendum, but I'm told that isn't correct.I wonder what the school board with do with it?

  On a totally different subject, I'm glad Denali is going to officially get it's name back. The people of Alaska tend to call it Denali, "The Great One" as it is. It was given its name eons ago and should have been allowed to remain. IMHO
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 02, 2015, 09:34:03 AM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 02, 2015, 07:01:08 AM
Thanks Pro and JS. I appreciate the kind comments. I have never felt like an outsider there. :-*

Of course they won't be truthful with you.



[quote author=Diane Amberg link=topic=17068.msg226257#msg226257 date=1441198868
I have not read any of Ross's last few posts and I'm sure I don't need to. I can just guess what he had to say, none of it nice or complimentary and all of it refuting anything I or anyone else said. [/quote]

There is that tired old lie again.
You are beginning to sound like Obama and Hillary. LOL

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 02, 2015, 07:01:08 AM
I'm sure he got another crack in about how I don't live there and don't pay taxes there, as if that's all there is to it.

When it comes to politics that just about covers it Diane. You have no vote.
But then you really don't understand much!
That college degree doesn't do much for you does it?
That is proven by your next statement. LOL


Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 02, 2015, 07:01:08 AM
I am very interested in how his petition business turns out.

I will be very happy to let you know how it turns out Diane whether it works or fails.


Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 02, 2015, 07:01:08 AM
Apparently ,except for showing it to the school board it, has no weight at all and can cause nothing to happen.

No Diane, I don't just show it to the school board.
And apparently you have no idea what you are talking about!
I will make a presentation to the School Board at a Board Meeting and it will be documented in the School Board Meeting Minutes.
The petition is a very legal document and gets certified by the Elk County Clerk.
I do get the pleasure of addressing the School Board with the legal document!
And if they do not abide by it, I ask the State Attorney General to investigate the school board..

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 02, 2015, 07:01:08 AM
I thought it might legally force a voter referendum, but I'm told that isn't correct.I wonder what the school board with do with it?

Why do you bother to think?
It does not force a voter referendum, it simply states if they want the property tax increase they must ask the voters.
It  does not force the school board to go to the voters.
Why don't you ask what you don't know?
Do you believe in property owners and taxpayer rates Diane?
What part of Elk County, Kansas is it that you care about?
Is it only the elite?

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 02, 2015, 07:01:08 AM
  On a totally different subject, I'm glad Denali is going to officially get it's name back. The people of Alaska tend to call it Denali, "The Great One" as it is. It was given its name eons ago and should have been allowed to remain. INMHO

Oh goody, goody, Obama finally did
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: proelkco on September 02, 2015, 08:24:03 PM
Ross why do you have to be so hateful? Diane said and asked nothing out of line.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 02, 2015, 08:45:47 PM
Quote from: proelkco on September 02, 2015, 08:24:03 PM
Ross why do you have to be so hateful? Diane said and asked nothing out of line.


I'm not hateful just honest.

Why do you have to be so hateful to call me hateful ?

So you think I'm hateful for providing her in return for what she dishes out. That's just plain stupid.

Just where is the critical thinking in that.

She hasn't tried to have a decent conversation in three years. And sh plays the part of a victim when she is corrected. That's been going on for a mnimum of three years and all her name calling as well.

And I'm the hateful one.

Really I enjoy her bull shit and she knows it and you know it.

What's hateful about enjoying her and her posts.

Oh wait a minute you read my post about the petition didn't you and that's hateful.

No sir you are dead wrong --- it is honesty.

What about her ignorance about the petition having no weight and stating so. I guess that was what you deem as love.

Go pick on someone else Proelkco it doesn't work with me.

Because I am really Pro Elk County.

And I have proved it but not by hiding behind a phony name.

I'm moving this over to the thread you are talking about because this need to be very clear.  Hang on a minute.

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 03, 2015, 12:24:36 PM
Well, I just heard that my nemesis is moving posts around to where he thinks they should be.That is really funny.  Why does he think that is even slightly alright? If he ever moves any of mine again, I'll put a spell on him.
I see he has posted again and I'm sure really believes that I'm so enraptured by him that I just must read every word....Not! I can always guess just about what he has said and don't have to waste my time reading it. He is so predictable. He'll slam every line of anything I say with worthless, mean spirited comments and insulting questions.I don't need to read any of that. He will stay on ignore.I put him back,on this thread, on Aug.31 and haven't read ,or plan to read any here since then.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 03, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
So, it seems he did tear apart my post from here and reposted it on the E K. thread. No, I didn't have to read his post to find out.
His petition has nothing to do with Elk Konnected. Why is he allowed to do that? Apparently he also thinks that every citizen in Elk County thanks him for doing the petition. Where did he get that idea?
Would someone please explain to him the difference about feelings, thoughts, truth and facts? He doesn't get it. 
I'm working on that spell. He'll know when it hits him. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :angel:
Now, back to face book.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 03, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 03, 2015, 12:24:36 PM
Well, I just heard that my nemesis is moving posts around to where he thinks they should be.That is really funny.  Why does he think that is even slightly alright? If he ever moves any of mine again, I'll put a spell on him.
I see he has posted again and I'm sure really believes that I'm so enraptured by him that I just must read every word....Not! I can always guess just about what he has said and don't have to waste my time reading it. He is so predictable. He'll slam every line of anything I say with worthless, mean spirited comments and insulting questions.I don't need to read any of that. He will stay on ignore.

Oh, but you keep calling me because of your infatuation with me. LOL

As far as moving posts it is perfectly alright ofr it would not be possible. You see you have no control over the internet.
And by moving it I show your coniving and deceptive practices and you drama queen attitude.

There is that story again that you don;t read what I post but you know all about everything I post.
And I have ocean front property here in Elk County, Kansas.How much would you like to buy Diane.

What insulting question have I ever asked you Diane? I've never asked you how much you weigh or anything else similar. So what are you talking about?

If I throw around a little humor you can't handle it.

If i was on ignore you would not be playing the part of a victim and drama queen. So ignore is just a joke.

And to start this thread with me in mind proves it.

You sure have a problem with the truth, you poor poor dear.

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 03, 2015, 10:24:01 PM

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 03, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
So, it seems he did tear apart my post from here and reposted it on the E K. thread. No, I didn't have to read his post to find out.

I did not tear anything apart. There is nothing to tear. I simply spaced your remarks for the purpose of clear communications. Just because you are not smart enough to do the same thing for clarity does not mean it is something bad.

You got that story going again that you don't read what I post and I have that story again about having ocean front property in Elk County Kansas – how much would you like to buy?

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 03, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
His petition has nothing to do with Elk Konnected. Why is he allowed to do that?

I am allowed to express my opinion that through my petition I hope to help the good people of Elk County, Kansas maintain their present "Quaality of Life" which is something that Elk Kon nected has preached about and has posted on their web site. But Elk Konnected appears to be incapable of defining what they mean by "Quality of Life" and you know very well I said that on the Elk Konnected thread.

I am allowed to express my opinion just like you are. And that is because you do not have control of the internet or this forum. I simply expressed that my petition is an attempt to help the Elk County citizens maintain their "Quality of Life" and you can not deal with it can you.


Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 03, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
Apparently he also thinks that every citizen in Elk County thanks him for doing the petition. Where did he get that idea?

That is just plain silly Diane. I would think a college-educated person would know better to make such a remark. You have simply twisted what I have said once again. And that is the reason you started this thread aimed at me, hoping to get away with your back-stabbing ways. It hasn't worked yet and never will.

Why do you want to spread such a lie. The truth is everyone that has signed the petition have said thank you to me for doing the petition and have said they are glad I am doing it. And that is more than enough for me. And to quote myself just for you, please read the following:
Quote from: ROSS on September 02, 2015, 05:16:22 PM

Do the people owe me anything?   No ma'am! It was my pleasure to serve the Elk County Citizens and all of them thanked me for doing the opposition petition and that is payment enough for me.


And I was refering to those tha signed the petition and you know very well that I was.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 03, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
Would someone please explain to him the difference about feelings, thoughts, truth and facts? He doesn't get it.

Diane do you really understand feelings if so you should understand feelings don't belong in politics.
I just have and have always been truthful to a fault. I have even said I am human and subject to making mistakes.

I just quoted a fact and a truth just above this portion of you post. That is to correct your lie about me believing everyone in Elk County owes me a thank you. That is simply not true.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 03, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
I'm working on that spell. He'll know when it hits him. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :angel:
Now, back to face book.

Does that make you a wiccan? LOL

Did you notice how Elk Kon nected is discon nected? Where are they Diane?

Where is Dr, Whetstone of Elk Kon nected? Why did he resign from the School Board after being re-elected and resign before his new term even start. If you are so Konnected and concerned about Elk County, Kansas enlighten us please.

Good night Diane.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 05, 2015, 03:59:12 PM
Oh my. I don't think I can put into words what I'm feeling now.I actually feel sick over Ross's letter attacking Mr. Moore.  Too much Ross, much too much. You must stop!
I'd assume Ross certainly can pull up a petition of he wishes, but spouting on the forum as he has been today makes me worry seriously about him. There may be something truly wrong.
I'm sure Mr. Moore didn't take putting such a letter on this forum lightly. He must have really been troubled.
  Ross has commented more than once how rude the school board is for eating at their meetings.I don't now what time they meet, but is it considered a dinner meeting for them? If so, then they would be allowed to have food, same as is done where I am. I suspect no one would object if the attendees brought food in too.     
Or perhaps I'm wrong. One thing is for sure, Ross has outdone himself with the disrespectful, rude, totally uncalled for comments going on and on and on.. and moving my post to where HE wants it. I just don't have the words.
Busting my chops is one thing, he can't really hurt me, and my friends know how rude and patronizing he can be, even to the point of calling me a liar over and over. But his latest stunt? OH MY.He doesn't know when enough is enough.
I heard read some very interesting information recently that confirmed what I already thought I knew. I'm afraid this isn't over.Yes, Ross is on ignore on this thread.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Mom70x7 on September 06, 2015, 09:07:07 AM
Diane -

I'll just address the eating at school board meetings portion. For several years I attended all the school board meetings; they usually occur at the dinner hour. The food, however, was usually just snacks - cookies, coffee, water and/or soda drinks. Nothing spectacular. And, yes, the community members attending were also allowed to bring food and/or drinks to the meetings. No one objected.

When I was attending, the food for the school board members was donated. Sometimes one of the members brought it, sometimes it was provided by individual administrators, sometimes it was provided by students who had cooked during a class time.

Again, when I was attending, we were allowed to have some of their coffee and water. There was a refrigerator in a side room, along with a Styrofoam cup for donations. School board members put their monies in there as well.

Admittedly, it's been a couple of years since I attended a meeting, so the procedures might have changed.

I quit attending, by the way, because we finally had a school board that I trusted. Not one that I always agreed with, but that I trusted would be ethical in their dealings and vote what they thought was best for the district. I still feel that way: not always agreeing with them, but liking the integrity.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: jarhead on September 06, 2015, 10:59:12 AM
Mom, I was told by a school board member (Not West-Elk) several years ago that there was a law stating something to the effect—"no member shall receive  compensation for work or duties preformed for the district " That member thought eating snacks or whatever was a gratuity/compensation so didn't partake of eating Snicker candy bars at the meetings.It does seem to me if the meeting are scheduled at dinner time they would change the time of the meeting---or eat early.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 06, 2015, 12:02:09 PM
Thank you both.
That doesn't sound unreasonable to me.I guess it really is what ever is customary, as long as there is no intent to defraud, etc. I rather doubt a member could be influenced by a Snickers, but it does pay to be careful.
I know that here sometimes workshops are held before meetings and ethically any time changes would have to be advertised ahead of time.
If the members come straight from work, there really isn't time to eat on work shop nights.
The members usually send out for pizza, which they pay for. The public can always bring in their own food too. I guess everywhere is different.



















Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 06, 2015, 01:33:41 PM
Oh, and fair is fair.I did get Ross's first post on the EK thread wrong. It was 4/26/11, not 09.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: flintauqua on September 06, 2015, 02:07:21 PM
Actually his first post was a few days earlier, in a thread that he did not start. (Wind Farm Conversation) It was quite long, I will truncate it here.

Quote from: ROSS on March 30, 2011, 09:18:15 PM
    Public Square Communities is a small company out of Leoti, Kansas.
    I certain our County Commissioner lived in Leoti at one time.
    Our County Commissioner was listed on Public Square's web site as founding member of Elk Konnected.

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 06, 2015, 04:49:26 PM
Quote from: flintauqua on September 06, 2015, 02:07:21 PM
Actually his first post was a few days earlier, in a thread that he did not start. (Wind Farm Conversation) It was quite long, I will truncate it here.

Why thank you. I completely forgot that one.
But still only 4 years not the 6 years Diane was claiming.

I;ll have to go back and revies that. thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 06, 2015, 04:50:51 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 06, 2015, 01:33:41 PM
Oh, and fair is fair.I did get Ross's first post on the EK thread wrong. It was 4/26/11, not 09.

We both got it wrong. But the point was 4 years not the 6 you claimed.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 06, 2015, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 06, 2015, 12:02:09 PM
Thank you both.
That doesn't sound unreasonable to me.I guess it really is what ever is customary, as long as there is no intent to defraud, etc. I rather doubt a member could be influenced by a Snickers, but it does pay to be careful.
I know that here sometimes workshops are held before meetings and ethically any time changes would have to be advertised ahead of time.
If the members come straight from work, there really isn't time to eat on work shop nights.
The members usually send out for pizza, which they pay for. The public can always bring in their own food too. I guess everywhere is different.

Customary does not make it proper except maybe to a liberal.
It is not a picnic it is a public meeting!
If they want to get together to eat dinner do it before or after the meeting.

Besides that is another one of them do as I say not as I do.

They have all that fattening food and deserts but they don't allow the students to have it on the lunch menu.
Yes, it is on the same school gtounds.



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: redcliffsw on September 07, 2015, 07:09:44 AM

The socialists can't they eat before or after their so-called meeting?

Doesn't make any difference anymore, these people care less about duty or the Constitution.
They're more interested in their obediance to the socialist agenda while snacking.


 
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: jarhead on September 07, 2015, 08:08:44 AM
Quote from Diane:
I rather doubt a member could be influenced by a Snickers

I guess that's a polite way of calling me or the board member a liar---and that coming from the one who keeps proclaiming that she has Ross on ignore and doesn't read anything he posts. What a frigging joke that has become in Elk county.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 10:29:08 AM
Ouch! Why so touchy? I'm hardly calling anyone a liar for goodness sake! I DO have Ross on ignore and only took him off for that one thread when he responded to Mr.Moore's letter.I wanted to see what he would say back about Mr. Moore's letter. Of course he wouldn't just let it go.What an explosion.
I also told him I was reading that one thread and why. I can always guess what he is going to say after I post something. I don't have to read them, he is so predictable. He will refute, poke and pinch anything I say, just to have something to say and get in the last word. So?  "THE ONE," are you an expert on who all has Ross on ignore? Are they all reading him anyway? He ain't that great.
OK, so I'll take him off ignore and you won't know if I'm reading him or not. Who cares anyway?
Perhaps he's the one who should put on his big boy shorts and learn to deal with dissension like Mr. Moore's letter. Speaking of feeling like a victim. He better get used to it if he's gonna play with the big boys.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 07, 2015, 11:13:42 AM


Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 08:37:18 AM
I was rereading a few things and I'm still unclear on something.
That's normal!
That's a given!



Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 08:37:18 AM
You are saying that West Elk has students who come in from some other district just for sports, say football, and then go back to their other district when the season is over?

I did not say that. I said it is a possibility.
I also said if they are doing it for sports players they would have to bring extra kids in order to hide that possibility.

I did not say that is definitely say they are doing such a thing. Stop twisting everything.

And I have stated many times that people don't have to believe anything I post. But perhaps they might want to explore what I pst and talk it over with friends and relatives.

And if you take notice whenever I can I post a reference or web site link.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 08:37:18 AM
I have a hard time believing the teachers, transportation people and parents of either district would put up with it. I really have a hard time believing that.

That's fine Diane you can believe what you want.

You are not here to recognize the conflicts between teachers and administration and administration and school board and teachers and school board. I've seen it and I have posted about it.

But teachers would not have any say in the situation, nor would the administration. And they all depend on their jobs through the School Board.


Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 08:37:18 AM
Another thing, when did I ever complain to the administrators and was told my concerns were baseless (my words) You were told to give it a rest, which you obviously didn't do,not that any of this last isn't off topic.

I was told to give it a rest and so were you and several other readers. It was an open message to every one and several people were specifically named including you and me.  I tried to find that post but I guess it was taken down.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 08:37:18 AM
One last thing. You still have not fixed your post where you attributed things to me that you posted. 
#22, the 11th blue box...(so many!) I wrote only the first sentence, the rest is your own. I did not write them!

Well you were not able to communicate decently about it in the first place, you didn't even try to then you tried ordering me.

So now you want to communicate what exactly you were talking and now you are polite enough to say the rest is on me. Well since the rest is up to me, I think it is water under the bridge because waited to long to be decent and no body will be reading it, so it is as good as gone. Besides people are smarter than you give them credit for and can recognize an error. Yep, I give most people a lot more credit than you do.

Besides my post at number 22 has no blue boxes in it that I can see. But then I'm blind I in one eye and can't  see outta the other'n. LOL

But according to Hillary what difference does it make now? Ya got love and laugh at them liberal people, don't ya.

Besides I think you just made that up out of Your imagination and that is just not nice if you did.



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 12:38:42 PM
 Ross, I'm not going to read your post, so you wasted your time.

Jar, really? Snickers? I also said it is good to be careful ,or some such.
You people make such enemies that some apparently are always on the prowl to "get" someone for something, it's wonder you have anybody to run for anything.
Elk County can believe me or not about the ignore business, I really don't care.  Perhaps I have stronger will power than they do. I'm not alone on ignoring him either.
  Now, back to that Snickers. Here, it would never be a problem. I'm personally very aware of how that works here.. A Snickers would be considered diminimus, nothing of value. Especially if all the board members are offered the same, like if the school kids make food for the school board.That would be fine.  Now, if one board member was taken out for an expensive meal, by one person who paid, no, that doesn't fly.Especially if they had active business with the school board.
So none of "those people" can go to your free bean feeds and such? No free hot dogs or anything ever? Bummer!
If your person wants to be extra careful, that's fine.
I would never accuse someone of telling a lie about something as diminimus as a Snickers. Now a whole truck load? ....HA!.
  Al and I have turned down offers several times because it wasn't ethical to accept, even after the fact. He even recused himself when the New Century Club building was on the agenda because the lodge he belongs to is next door and they would be able to increase their parking, if what was proposed passed.
Back to doing some kid's fire safety work.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 07, 2015, 01:16:28 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 10:29:08 AM
Ouch! Why so touchy? I'm hardly calling anyone a liar for goodness sake!

What so touchy?
He was as you say addressing someone else and you use socialist liberal soft speak to call him a liar.
That is the hard core truth.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 10:29:08 AM
I DO have Ross on ignore and only took him off for that one thread when he responded to Mr.Moore's letter.I wanted to see what he would say back about Mr. Moore's letter. Of course he wouldn't just let is go.What an explosion.

Mr. Moores so-called letter was his very own political post and put into a flyer at taxpayer expense.
And I doubt he had the School Boards approval to utilize school time and school equipment and school employees to perform his own personal politics.

Did you read where Mr, Moore proved there are no secret meetings he was talking about? NO.
But by making that statement he has now told countless people of the possibility and in essence spreading the rumor even further.

Did he say why he was taking on 27 kids from another School District with out receiving state aid when he thinks the school  board thinks they have sufficient reason to raise property taxes again and again? No he did not!

Well I know why those kids come with out state aid. Because the state aid stays at their School District and that is a fact.

Did he explain why they are coming to West Elk? No he did not!

The so-called explosion is justified because he claims misinformation and backs it up with nothing.
The so-called explosion is justified because his information is misinformation by choosing not to provide the rest of the story.

Do the people in Elk County the State increased our property values in order to get more property tax?
Does anyone stop to think, by increasing out property values West Elk recognizes a property tax increase?

Diane do you realize that the Elk County Government gave the property owners a tax break but only the few that live outside of the West Elk School District saw that tax break? Why?
Well because West Elk sucked it right up plus a little more. That is a fact!

I was at the board meeting when they were talking about this resolution and I did not lie about it.
Mat Hilton the President of the board was looking directly at me when he said they didn't need the whole 8 mill and that's a fact. My neighbor who had never been to a board meeting later told me the President of the board was talking directly to me. Some one else on the board said they really could get by with just taking 1 mill. Well that's all fie and good so they voted for 1 mill. That really means nothing to me because what is to stoop them from coming back to vote and take the other 7 mill.

Now if you recall the Superintendent did tell us they have the right to raise our property taxes by 4 mill with out asking us. You do recall that right? They voted to take 1 mill on the resolution, but he did not say what would prevent them from coming back to take the other 7 mills did he?

Well folks that just got added up to 12 mill and I think it is best if you hope my petition flies.

Most of the folks signing this petition have no trust or faith in the West Elk School Board and quite a few do believe they are doing this to get enough money to build a new gymnasium. I tell them no, but then they start to get a little tense with me --- not a lot mind you --- but enough for me to understand not to argue with them. Just whose fault is this? The school boards fault. The school board shut down grade schools with out any real justification, the people did not want them shut down for good reasons. Then the board wants to build a new grade school on the same ground as the High School even though the voters made it clear not to. The board spent in the neighborhood of $50,000 give or take on architects and contractors to come up with a blueprint of what they wanted. While working with the architects and contractors they asked for teachers input and received none. The board get upset at a meeting close to the end of the planning time because the finally got a suggestion or two, really they were fuming and said tough, they did not respond when we asked. See the friction? Another meeting they were talking about having teachers come to a board meeting to make suggestions on something and one board member said the teachers would be afraid of retaliation? That ended that plan. But then they went to the voters and that cost money and received a great big "NO".

So the School Board comes back again after spending another $50,000.00 on architects and contractors once again for new plans for a wing on the present building. They run a mail survey to find out how the voters feel about it. But the survey was a form of trickery. They didn't ask if the voters approve or disapproved. No, they asked to number certain aspects of the rooms by priority what they would like to se first as #1 and so forth.

What they received was a lot of surveys  marked re-open the Moline grade school or the word "NO" written on it. Also a quite a few were thrown away. I spoke with a few people that threw them away and they did so because they figure the School Board is going to ignore them. You know what they were right.
After the expense of the survey basically coming back saying "NO" the board then runs a mail in ballot at yet more expense and receive yet another resounding "NO".

All this type of information is conveniently left out of Mr. Moore's post.
Some people were use that your precious Elk Kom nected ran community conversations about closing the grade schools. Why wasn't the so-called leaders of the community capable as elected officials able to talk to and listen to the people they work for.

That my dear Diane, is misinformation by omission.
If you lived here you might know that.

Remember I discussed the Superintendent holding a meeting on the School auditorium stage with 3 Board members. Only three were allowed on the stage to avoid calling it a school board meeting and having to have minutes taken. Mr. Moore orchestrated the whole thing. Mr. Moore stood on the floor below the stage and answered what few questions that were asked.

They had the Tech Employee set up video camera's and microphones and amplifier and then they posted that on the West Elk School web site. They edited that video which I guess was legal because it was not a board meeting. But they won't do the same with school board meetings. School board meetings are not allowed to be edited, legally speaking so it would be so easy. Why do you suppose they won't record the meetings for the community? I have explained why many, many times. What I think is because they really don't want the public to have easy access and it also avoids accountability. It would also require some form of protocol which they terribly lack.

Why should they trust the School Board or the Superintendent.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 10:29:08 AM
I also told him I was reading that one thread and why. I can always guess what he is going to say after I post something. I don't have to read them, he is so predictable. He will refute, poke and pinch anything I say, just to have some thing to say and get in the last word. So?  "THE ONE," are you an expert on who all has Ross on ignore? Are they all reading him anyway? He ain't that great.
OK, so I'll take him off ignore and you won't know if I'm reading him or not. Who cares anyway?

Nobody cares Diane except you.
Say all you want about ignore. Your actions show you are lying and that's all that matters.
And your rebukes show exactly how much you care.


Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 10:29:08 AM
Perhaps he's the one who should put on his big boy shorts and learn to deal with dissension like Mr. Moore's letter. Speaking of feeling like a victim. He better get used to it if he's gonna play with the big boys.

What's your problem, I've got my depends on, do you?
You might need them later this evening.
No Diane I an not a victim because I am a responsible person not a victim.
If I make a mistake or error I take full credit for it, unlike you who blames everyone else.

And Diane once again no one has to believe what I post but it will give then something to discuss if they so choose. See no pressure, no orders. It's all up to the beholder.

Will you read this whole of this post er explosion or is it too much for you to handle?

I am all about and for the common man of which I am one.

I gotta run now, gotta appointment to keep.
Yep, I got my depends on. ROFLMAO.


Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 07, 2015, 01:17:54 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2015, 12:38:42 PM
Ross, I'm not going to read your post, so you wasted your time.

Yeah, no since reading it twice it was very clear and to the point.
ROFLMAO

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: flintauqua on September 07, 2015, 03:34:01 PM
The eleventh quote box within this post is what Diane is talking about.

Re: 9-4-15 Letter to West Elk Parents, Patrons & Tax Payers

« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 11:13:01 am »
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 07, 2015, 04:31:01 PM



Well I got home from the Elk County Courthouse at 4:30 pm
The petition has been signed, sealed and delivered way before 5 pm on this day.

The school tried to tell the County Clerk she could wait until tomorrow.
Tomorrow the petition would have been dead and our County Clerk knew that and she believes in doing her job properly. That make me pretty prod of her.

I asked the County Clerk if this was the first petition ever done in Elk County because some people said they had never seen one here.

And I learned something new!

There was a petition ran when the board was working to shut down the grade schools but it failed.
I did not ask why it failed, I may try to find out another day.
I never saw the petition or heard of it back then.

And I can understand why.
Because it is pretty difficult to study all the laws and get it right and it is pretty difficult to catch people at home.
Even people here in Elk County have pretty busy lives.

The County Clerk will be certifying the signatures on this petition tomorrow morning.
When she is not rushed or distracted which I happen to think is an excellent idea.
I want a thorough check, I'd rather be short one signature and fail than have the School Attorney find an error and have enough signatures to pass only to be challenged in court if he finds one little error.
And they would do exactly that. They don't care about what the voters and taxpayers want.
And not a drop of this money goes into the class room contrary to what Mr. Moore would have you believe by saying is goes to education.

Does a new expensive sprinkler system help in the class room. no but it gives maintenance more time to goof off.

Does a new rebuilt professional football field go towards the class room for education. NOPE.

Oh yes, the School Superintendent saw my petition and I believe he and the attorney saw that it was all very proper. That's why he went ballistic and performed his personal political action.
And I can understand why, posting on the forum and sending out flyers and using school employeesand school time on our dollar for personal politicking was urgent to him. But it did not work.
And yes he did that during work hours using school property.
I sincerely do believe he knows that is very improper of him.
And I don't believe he was authorized to take such action by his employers, the School Board because we are between meetings. Unless they had one of those clandestine - secret meetings he was talking about.

But when you are desperate you take desperate measures.

I will make myself very busy this evening catching up on the work I left so I could do this petition and I have a very busy day tomorrow so I won't be worrying about the petition.

I will post something as soon as I possibly can after I hear about the count certification.

The School Board is already taking a 4-mill tax increase on our properties and I would suggest they use 1 mill of that to pay off the loan they took out on the roof and air conditioners. They would not have had to do that if they would have done the job 2 years ago, but they didn't listen to their architects and contractors they paid a great deal of money to.

If they were smart they would use the full 4 mills and pay the debt of 4 times faster. But are they smart.
Diplomas don't actually make a person smart. LOL
That is proven by the fact they had not planned how to pay off the debt before making the debt.

I double-checked and triple checked the grammar and spelling to keep the grammar and spelling police off of this post. LOL

TTFN


Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 07, 2015, 04:41:51 PM

I've grown tired of this thread and Diane and her jummping all over the place. I'm gonna unsubscribe from this thread and her East Coast Happenings thread. I agree I played her game far to long.

Bad mouth me all you want on your threads now Diane, I won;t knw because I won;t have anyone reading it for me. It been real and it's been fun. But it hasn't been real fun.

You can have all the last words you wnat on your two threads. Have lots of fun with that.

I am going back to:
Quote from: ROSS on September 07, 2015, 04:34:53 PM

http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/index.php?topic=11780.new#new


Join me if you wish.

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: redcliffsw on September 08, 2015, 04:45:12 AM

A better title for this thread is Socialist Opinions from the East Coast.



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 08, 2015, 07:48:08 AM
What every suits ya, pal.
As WC Fields once said,"go away kid, ya bother me."
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 08, 2015, 08:03:18 AM
I'm not sure if this is really political or not, but I'll put it here. I was recently sent information that your sports teams out there really do hop schools and districts to make up teams.I had never heard of such a thing, but apparently it does work well. I can't imagine trying to schedule having players at the right time for the right thing, but if it works, why not?
I guess the petition date has come and gone. I wonder what will happen next ?
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: proelkco on September 08, 2015, 08:35:35 AM
That is not true. There are State rules and regs that they have to follow.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 08, 2015, 11:28:49 AM
Ok, thanks! I always appreciate reliable information.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 14, 2015, 01:09:39 PM
 I just heard that apparently I won't have a certain party bugging me any more, or moving my posts around. I'll bet he finally officially got his hand slapped. Regardless, I didn't know since I put him back on ignore. I don't know what he said, but as usual, it wasn't his fault, whatever it was. I will not miss him at all.
  People here are really starting to be interested in whether Joe Biden will run for President or not. There will be some interesting changes at the 2016 election regardless.
The County Executive here wants to run for Governor,I think. I hope he gets it if he does..It'll get him out of New Castle County.  He spends all kinds of money on "Feel Good" stuff, like ice cream festivals and Easter Egg hunts, to get voters, but lets the infrastructure go to pot because it's hidden.
He just gave the county employees a $750.00 "reward" for suffering through the ''hard times." (tax money of course,) I wonder how long it will be before he pressures them for big campaign donations?
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 23, 2015, 02:00:24 PM
I just finished reading the Prairie Star.I see there will be a legislative luncheon at the Senior Center in Howard on the 29th.
I'll bet a certain person is too chicken to show up and tell it like he thinks it is. Face to face... get "the truth" out in a room with people who have the reins.
I hope they get a good turn out again this year.Since it requires reservations, he'll use that as an excuse not to go... or several other excuses in his personal handbook for cynics and complainers.
The town hall meetings that are held here can be very interesting.I'm expecting Joe Biden to decide one way or the other in a week or so.
I wonder how long Trump will keep playing around.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: frawin on September 23, 2015, 02:56:49 PM
Diane, I can't imagine who you are talking about. Surely there is no one in Howard or Elk County like that.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Joesue23 on September 23, 2015, 02:59:36 PM
Frawin you are so right, surely there is no one in Howard or Elk County like that.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 23, 2015, 05:58:55 PM
Oh my,I guess I was wrong....HA!
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on September 23, 2015, 06:21:19 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 23, 2015, 02:00:24 PM
I just finished reading the Prairie Star.I see there will be a legislative luncheon at the Senior Center in Howard on the 29th.

Ain't that just dandy! Are you gonna be there?

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 23, 2015, 02:00:24 PM
I'll bet a certain person is too chicken to show up and tell it like he thinks it is. Face to face... get "the truth" out in a room with people who have the reins.

Why do you have to be such a low life back stabbing fool?
Why can't you be decent and call me by name when you are backstabbing me?
I tell it like it is, if you had any decency you'd do the same.
Any body with any leadership ability or knowledge would know better.

I have no need to show up.
Remember the petition you said was just a piece of paper that carried no weight, well it carried plenty of weight. It kept the School District from raising our property taxes another 8 mill over and above the 4 mill they already took. I proved my point, what is your point and can you back it up?

And it did not take an organization to do the petition, did it?
In fact our famous organization Elk Kon nected failed to even give any thought to the "Quality of Life" episode for the elderly of Elk County. And that is my opinion, and I stand by it.

And my letter in the newspaper proved the school had a lot of extra money. And that we were being bullshitted. And Mr. Moore's letter right below mine proved a Kon nection! And they had a special gray box for show. It also proved the letter, I posted was truthful about a ton of extra money.  Mr. Moore claimed it was money that the school already had coming. Be that as it may they have all that extra money even though Mr. Moore calls it something else.

Anyone with a couple of brain cells can see he did not deny the amount of money, no matter what he calls it. And he failed to support what he said with any facts. I do believe the analysis is more than satisfactory proof.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 23, 2015, 02:00:24 PM
I hope they get a good turn out again this year.Since it requires reservations, he'll use that as an excuse not to go... or several other excuses in his personal handbook for cynics and complainers.

I don't need an excuse, I have no intention of going. Apparently you failed to understand Mr. Moore's letter when he quoted the Governor as saying the school budgets are too difficult for legislators to understand. I don't even think Mr. Moore understands it, fully. Or he would not have made the remarks he did about the extra money being owed to the school with out facts to back it up.

Have you ever seen the audit of West Elk done by a professional company?
No I bet you haven't.  And you didn't read the letter attached, that said only for the administrator and school board, did you? I posted it and put a link where it could be downloaded. Those two pages included!  You see Diane, the company can't legally do that, because the audit and everything is public information.
I bet you didn't know that either, did ya?
Just like the petition on paper with no weight?

You should learn before you bad mouth and back stab someone, don't ya think?

Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 23, 2015, 02:00:24 PM
The town hall meetings that are held here can be very interesting.I'm expecting Joe Biden to decide one way or the other in a week or so.
I wonder how long Trump will keep playing around.
Oh yea, I'm moving this over to the Elk Konnected thread so everyone can see what you do?

As always it's a pleasure to set you straight.

Good night Diane Keep your knives nice and sharp. LOL

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: redcliffsw on September 24, 2015, 05:44:37 AM

I have not seen anything about the legislative luncheon.  However, you gotta know they're up to no good as always.  I can't imagine it being anything about the cause to defend American liberty.  The Republicans and reconstructed Democrats (prominent welfare types)will be there to see what government/tyrants will do for them.

Somebody please post a list of those in attendance.



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 24, 2015, 08:31:51 AM
Hey Ross! I have you back on ignore, so I'm not reading your posts. I can guess what you have to say though. HA! I thought you had given up. Since I was told to ignore you, it must have been especially gooey. I DON'T CARE!!!!!!
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 13, 2015, 09:10:16 AM
Oh my...squabbling over a new ambulance station? Good grief. Depending on where you get your funding, it has to be more than just a two car garage kit. There are minimum building standards!
A simple, but complete unit (not expecting an EMT to sleep on a sofa!) should be had for around $100.00 -$125.00 a square foot, not including site prep.
For safety you need a separate area from the garage part itself, for sleeping, proper bathroom(s) and showers, also a proper place to clean equipment, perhaps a boot sink.Heating and air conditioning of course...
There should be a small Pullman kitchen with refrigerator, sofa and small lounge area, with TV., table and chairs, desk, radio, phone and computer area, book shelves, closet, and adequate ambulance equipment and 02 storage area, as well as space for snow shovels, oil dry, perhaps a lawn mower and such depending on how you handle all that, and perhaps an onsite fuel tank, again depending on how you handle that there. Assuming it's one floor, skylights and good insulation are a must and solar would be a good idea depending on the site plan. I'd like to see a storm cellar too, but that's just me. Some places would add a small classroom/meeting area for CPR classes and such. But that will get into ADA and you might not want to tackle that. I'm assuming the land would be donated. Be nice to your EMT's.They may save your life one day. :)
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on October 13, 2015, 10:38:55 AM


I had a great visit this morning with our EMS personel this morning and was given a tour of their facility.

I have always been on great terms with these folks and had a terrific talk with them.

I very much support on of their major concerns, which i will address on the thread
Elk Konnected Hand out at County Commissioners meeting on 4/25 soon.
Click here to go there:
Quote from: ROSS on October 13, 2015, 10:32:03 AM
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 13, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
 Mr. "Winkle",yes, please ask your "First Responders" and you'll find response time is only one part of the equation. Your EMT's are trained much further than first aiders/First Responders. A system that dispatches the nearest ambulance, and stop gaps by the Sherriff's Dept. LEO's and others who respond can also make a huge difference.
On the road dispatches are common too.The ambulance sometimes never makes it home before the next call. You probably don't see as many of those as we do though.  Why so grouchy? Those EMT's and Paramedics are highly trained professionals and should be treated as such.
You make it sound like a leaky ol' garage on a dirt floor and an outhouse is good enough. >:(
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on October 13, 2015, 03:34:32 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 13, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
Mr. "Winkle",yes, please ask your "First Responders" and you'll find response time is only one part of the equation. Your EMT's are trained much further than first aiders/First Responders. A system that dispatches the nearest ambulance, and stop gaps by the Sherriff's Dept. LEO's and others who respond can also make a huge difference.
On the road dispatches are common too.The ambulance sometimes never makes it home before the next call. You probably don't see as many of those as we do though.  Why so grouchy? Those EMT's and Paramedics are highly trained professionals and should be treated as such.
You make it sound like a leaky ol' garage on a dirt floor and an outhouse is good enough. >:(

Try to communicate deceently with you and what do I get shity city talk.
We are rural and better for it.
I give up on you Diane.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: proelkco on October 13, 2015, 05:04:19 PM
Good post Diane.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 13, 2015, 06:23:30 PM
    I stated that response time is most important . Why were MASH units close to the front? We have many disabled vets that would have died in early times. They are given worse treatment than illegal immigrants.

    The main question is, what is wrong with the current facility? It houses the EMS and the Extension office and the Rural fire station.

   Evidently someone thought that was a good idea at an earlier time.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 15, 2015, 09:24:35 AM
M.A.S.H. units are/were military of course and Civilian EMS is totally different. Remember what the "M" stands for?
Why does your area need or want to build a new building? I can't possibly answer that.Outgrew it? Political? Tossed out by the other tenants? Beats me.
Our situation here is totally different. Mixed urban, suburban and rural...my district has it all..About 40 square miles. Until it became developed, our one area was more than ten miles from the nearest station. One can't predict where something might happen and have an ambulance sitting there, but between the police, fire fighters, first responders giving immediate care, EMT's and helicopters, we get it done.
  What do you do when the local ambulances are already out on calls? Here the next due ambulance takes it, from where ever they are, even perhaps from a different state. It's all preplanned.The most serious are flown.
If you are very rural, one has to accept that services are going to be further away, that's just the way it always had been...here too.
We have career full time Advanced Life Paramedic Units, who are are owned and operated by New Castle County. They don't transport.The other two counties have the same. All non emergency calls are handled by privately owned transport vehicles.
The emergency basic life support units are, for the most part, owned and operated by our fire companies.(One unit downstate is owned and operated by the local VFW.)The Gov't, state and local, provide major funding, as do we ,by our fund drives, and the billing of people's insurance.
We have both paid EMT's and some volunteers, as I always was.Years ago I did pick up part time paid work on a private service.
You all are so rural, don't you have helicopters? They can drop in most anywhere and drop the travel distance to about nothing.
Remember, not every call is immediately life threatening. In most, a few minutes more or less doesn't matter in the final outcome.
If closeness was the answer, then people would never die in hospitals. Most don't go by ambulance anyway, they are driven to the care center.That is especially true of acute heart patients. Some 80% or more do not go by ambulance. (from an AHA study a few years ago.) Good luck with the final decision.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 15, 2015, 09:42:41 AM
Well, I'm told Ross had something to say to me. He knows he's on ignore, so why would he think I read it?    Didn't get my daily verbal bashing? Who needs it!
Al and I were the project managers for our last two firehouses. One in 1984 and a rural one more recently.In fact, I think the mortgage on that one will be paid off very soon.YAY!
This area of Delaware has been growing quite rapidly and we have been suffering growing pains trying to keep local services reasonable and not too expensive.It's quite a balancing act.
I'm still waiting to see if Joe Biden declares soon.I hope he stays out of it. He can go out on top and still work behind the scenes. I thought the recent "debate" was interesting, but a waste of time too.Nothing that ever comes later has any relationship to anything said in those public forums.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 16, 2015, 09:48:11 AM
Now I'm really disgusted, which I suspect it the whole idea.Thank goodness I do have real friends out there. I'm told Ross is out to stir things up with me again with all manner of lies. I refuse to read him no matter how many lies he tells. I hope his family is safe from him if this is "normal"for him.
No, I was never ever banned from the forum, not even close. No, I never let anyone else use my thread and pretend to be me. I wouldn't know how.
This isn't the first time he has posted that nonsense and I still don't know why. So, go back friends, and read whatever piece of nastiness he wrote, if you care to. If it doesn't sound like me, then you know it's him. I have no idea what he is tying to do.I'm not running for office or anything. HA! What does he get out of trying to smash me? He wouldn't know me if he fell over me.
I feel sorry for any new members trying to see what this forum is all about.They will have to judge all the threads on their own merits.It didn't used to be almost all ugly, mean politics with only a couple of posters every day.
     I will say what I wish about EMS. After 46 years I think I know something about how it works. Some details may be different of course, but the goals are the same nation wide.
Oh, and I forgot the generator when I was writing about the needs of any most any new separate  ambulance station. "He" has nothing decent to offer me, so he can stay on ignore.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: frawin on October 16, 2015, 11:23:48 AM
Get him Diane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: frawin on October 16, 2015, 11:56:12 AM
Get him Diane. What is new about him being after you, he has been doing that almost from the first time he came on to Forum. He has been doing the same thing to me, don't you know you are not supposed  to question him or disagree with him. This is his forum.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on October 16, 2015, 12:46:53 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 16, 2015, 09:48:11 AM
Now I'm really disgusted, which I suspect it the whole idea.Thank goodness I do have real friends out there. I'm told Ross is out to stir things up with me again with all manner of lies. I refuse to read him no matter how many lies he tells. I hope his family is safe from him if this is "normal"for him.
No, I was never ever banned from the forum, not even close. No, I never let anyone else use my thread and pretend to be me. I wouldn't know how.
olitics with only a couple of posters every day.
     I will say what I wish about EMS. After 46 years I think I know something about how it works. Some details may be different of course, but the goals are the same nation wide.

Just like the police the goals are suppose to be all the same, but they all operate differently. Which means the location, the terrain and the population is all different.

Diane you have got to be the sorriest excuse for a person I have never had the pleasure of not meeting.
You fail to accept any responsibility for your own twisted actions. Like a good liberal you blame others for your failures in life.

You get what you deserve for twisting everything and thinking you are an expert on everything because you have a degree in teaching third graders.

I thank the good Lord my sons teachers have been far superior to you in intelligence and attitude.

You still lack the comprehension that Elk County, Kansas is strictly rural with a population of 2,625 and a land area of 835 square miles in no way compares to Wilmington, Delaware with a population of 71,525 and a land area of 17.03 square miles.

Elk County, Kansas has a population of 3.14 people per sq miles compared tp Wilmington's 4,200 people per sq miles. An extremely large difference, in so many ways.

Can you comprehend !

I give up on you Diane, you have consumed to much of my valuable time with your backstabbing and twisting of everything. It just does not work to twist everything rural into your over crowded way of life in the city.

Life here in the middle of no where just can not be topped. We folks that live here have every right to be involved with the rest of the citizens that live here and we have a right to pay fair taxes and not have to pay for money to be wasted by the liberals. And we have the right to vote here. Do you?

No, you can not even register to vote here, because you are 1290 miles away from us.






Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: W. Gray on October 16, 2015, 01:06:37 PM
Quote from: ROSS on October 16, 2015, 12:46:53 PM
Just like the police the goals are suppose to be all the same, but they all operate differently. Which means the location, the terrain and the population is all different.

Diane you have got to be the sorriest excuse for a person I have never had the pleasure of not meeting.
You fail to accept any responsibility for your own twisted actions. Like a good liberal you blame others for your failures in life.

You get what you deserve for twisting everything and thinking you are an expert on everything because you have a degree in teaching third graders.

I thank the good Lord my sons teachers have been far superior to you in intelligence and attitude.

You still lack the comprehension that Elk County, Kansas is strictly rural with a population of 2,625 and a land area of 835 square miles in no way compares to Wilmington, Delaware with a population of 71,525 and a land area of 17.03 square miles.

Elk County, Kansas has a population of 3.14 people per sq miles compared tp Wilmington's 4,200 people per sq miles. An extremely large difference, in so many ways.

Can you comprehend !

I give up on you Diane, you have consumed to much of my valuable time with your backstabbing and twisting of everything. It just does not work to twist everything rural into your over crowded way of life in the city.

Life here in the middle of no where just can not be topped. We folks that live here have every right to be involved with the rest of the citizens that live here and we have a right to pay fair taxes and not have to pay for money to be wasted by the liberals. And we have the right to vote here. Do you?

No, you can not even register to vote here, because you are 1290 miles away from us.

Where did you get the idea that Elk County contains 835 square miles? Or that Elk County has 3.14 people per square miles?
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Joesue23 on October 16, 2015, 01:31:04 PM
Waldo don't you know that Toss is never wrong, what is the matter with you. He will be after you next. Your Family on both sides were Elk County Pioneers and you spent a lot of time there but you don't know everything that Toss knows.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on October 16, 2015, 02:37:27 PM
Quote from: W. Gray on October 16, 2015, 01:06:37 PM
Where did you get the idea that Elk County contains 835 square miles? Or that Elk County has 3.14 people per square miles?

I truly admit I am a human being subject to error, and i have said so a few times.
I made a boo-boo.
So shoot me!

I apparently misread something, but at any rate it still proves my point in the difference of life styles and needs between Wilmington, Delaware and Elk County.


The corrected  number is 650 sq mi (1,683 km2), which changes the population density to  a population of 1 more person per square mile.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elk_County,_Kansas 

Thanks for pointing out my error.

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: ddurbin on October 16, 2015, 03:14:43 PM
Quote from: ROSS on October 16, 2015, 02:37:27 PM

I made a boo-boo.
So shoot me!


Careful Ross.  Folks might think you're making a back-handed death threat on yourself.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on October 16, 2015, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: ddurbin on October 16, 2015, 03:14:43 PM
Careful Ross.  Folks might think you're making a back-handed death threat on yourself.


LOL

Don't ya reckon it would have to read a tinsy bit  different than what is written !

Oh wait a minute I get it.

A little liberal twisting could get you there. Yep that's it a liberal twist.



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 16, 2015, 06:35:02 PM
If I didn't get the occasional message as to what meanness he has been up to involving me, I wouldn't know.He thinks he is so fascinating that I can't possibly go without reading every word. I really don't care, haven't for a very long time.
He keeps repeating his spew about me over and over...nothing new. He has run out of insults! HA! Hopefully his few remaining readers will soon also put him on ignore, and that will be that. I'm sorry the rest of you have to know that he lives near you.
Good luck with the ambulance station business, however it turns out.They don't have to be fancy, just sturdy and have the necessary things any active EMT could tell you it needs.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: W. Gray on October 16, 2015, 06:39:01 PM
Quote from: Joesue23 on October 16, 2015, 01:31:04 PM
Waldo don't you know that Toss is never wrong, what is the matter with you. He will be after you next. Your Family on both sides were Elk County Pioneers and you spent a lot of time there but you don't know everything that Toss knows.

Thanks for mentioning my family on both sides.

My mother always said she came to Elk County as a baby in a covered wagon. I never heard anything similar about by dad's side but since they came here earlier it would have to have been by wagon, also. I came along in '41 and left in '46 with my folks. When my folks moved back in '89, I was here frequently until they passed away in '06 and '13.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 16, 2015, 06:48:14 PM
 Waldo,where did your covered wagon family come from?
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on October 16, 2015, 08:18:16 PM

If I didn't get the occasional message as to what meanness he has been up to involving me, I wouldn't know.He thinks he is so fascinating that I can't possibly go without reading every word. I really don't care, haven't for a very long time.[/quote]

Oh, but you do care and you do read every word or you would not keep talking about it. And you would not keep trying to make yourself out to be a victim, something you have a lot of practice at.

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He keeps repeating his spew about me over and over...nothing new. He has run out of insults! HA! Hopefully his few remaining readers will soon also put him on ignore, and that will be that. I'm sorry the rest of you have to know that he lives near you. [/quote]

You are so pathetic if you involved yourself in your over populated city and it;s politics where i am sure there is plenty wrong like in most cities, you wouldn't have time to insert your foolishness in our small problems with your arrogant ignorance.

You could put your organization brainwashing you have been trained for to work with any Organizational Leadership you think you might have to work solving problems in your own back yard. And perhaps accomplish something worth your degrees. Never happen will it? You don't possess the fortitude to function in your own back yard do you. Here are your major problems you ignore in Wilmington because you lack the leadership ability to step off the curb.

Crime rates for Wilmington, DE
With a crime rate of 79 per one thousand residents, Wilmington has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities.
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/de/wilmington/crime/

58 Percent Black Wilmington, Delaware: Death By 'Thugicide'
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2013/10/58-percent-black-wilmington-delaware.html


And you have plenty of problems at your schools and what are you trying to do to make it better?
Nothing, you are too concerned with business you have no part in. Where are all those friends of yours, oh you only have friends in Elk County, Kansas is that why you aren't active in the Wilmington's School Districts? Or don't you care? Check it out, what you are ignoring at home:

Murder Town USA (aka Wilmington, Delaware) - Newsweek
www.newsweek.com/.../wilmington-delaware-murder-crime-290232.htm...
Dec 9, 2014 - This fall she became Wilmington's public information officer, which means .... Two Gun Incidents Become the 46th and 47th Shootings at Schools This Year ..... our inability to deal with our issues led us to hurt people," he says.


Top 10 Most Dangerous Cities in America
1. Wilmington, Delaware
A short drive from South Philly and Camden and midway between New York and Washington, Wilmington managed to snag the number one spot on our list for highest rate of violent crimes per 100,000 people. And while the overall state of Delaware ranked moderately well in the peace index (which looked at factors such as police per capita, percentage of population behind bars and access to small arms), Wilmington came in the top spot for sex offenders per capita.

And how are you involved in your town to make things better for everyone? Practicing to be a victim?

Unlike you I am active and i have accomplished making things better. Even though you don;t like it. I took a leadership roll and accomplished something without an organization. You asked me why I don;t have an organization and I said I don't need one. You see, I prefer people think for them selves rather than have an organization think for them. Unlike you as a follower in several organizations you have claimed to be a part of. I odn;t ask anyone to believe anything I post, I ask that they think for themselves, perhaps discuss the pros and cons of what I post, but by all means to make their own decisions.ch as a web site or like the e-mail from a State  analyst with full information to contact them for verification. No, I'm not perfect so I have to work harder and I make errors due to being human,

But Diane you have never quoted anything I have said as a lie, because you can't find one.

Your diploma just doesn't work very well for you does it?

I'm feel sorry for you. I sure hope your weekend approves and you get to feeling better about yourself.


I'm sorry you always feel like you are a victim, you should seek help for that syndrome.

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 17, 2015, 09:08:33 AM
Nope,didn't read it don't have to.Don't care.... Would someone please get a net? ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: W. Gray on October 17, 2015, 09:17:17 AM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 16, 2015, 06:48:14 PM
Waldo,where did your covered wagon family come from?

My mother and her folks came from Aurora, Arkansas, to Elk County. I don't' know how many years they spent in Arkansas or where they were prior to that.

My dad's folks came from Wright County, Missouri, to Elk County via Wichita. The family spent a number of years in Missouri and prior to that they were in Tishomingo County, Mississippi.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 18, 2015, 12:12:39 PM
Very interesting.Part of my ancestors spent some time in Arkansas and Alabama too. It's fun to figure out who was where and when.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 19, 2015, 02:01:51 PM
 Well, it's official. Joe B. is running. Should be interesting.
As far as my typos, that's OK, I never had a typing class and am faster now, but still just two fingers. I laugh at 'em too!
He ran out of pages of insults and has started over at page one.
You are bound to hear that I was a horrible teacher, didn't deserve my degree, live in Wilmington not Newark, and a bunch of other stuff....mostly lies about me and several others. He can't stand not getting a rise out of me.
Frankly, he's too expensive, and has gone far beyond his expiration date. ;D
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on October 19, 2015, 03:47:25 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 19, 2015, 02:01:51 PM
Well, it's official. Joe B. is running. Should be interesting.
As far as my typos, that's OK, I never had a typing class and am faster now, but still just two fingers. I laugh at 'em too!
He ran out of pages of insults and has started over at page one.
You are bound to hear that I was a horrible teacher, didn't deserve my degree, live in Wilmington not Newark, and a bunch of other stuff....mostly lies about me and several others. He can't stand not getting a rise out of me.
Frankly, he's too expensive, and has gone far beyond his expiration date. ;D

You see Diane you do read everything I post!
All it took was a little goading for you to admit it.
Newark is just 12 miles away, but it makes a great deal of difference to you doesn't it?
Both towns are located in New Castle County with a population of 549,684!
Even though it is very little difference. 12 very short miles, 18 minutes.
Well it makes even a bigger difference between Elk County, Kansas and Newark, Delaware.
So why aren't you active in your county instead of our county? You have much more trouble there than we do here.

But you still don't comprehend that you and your liberal friends ridicule gets you nowhere.

Your Saul Alinsky and Obama and Elk Kon-nected community organizers ways don't work on me.

Yes the Elk Kon-nected along with their false positive attitude and demanding ways seem to have failed terribly.  Now if only Obama and the liberals lie would be recognized and people could think for themselves clearly without all the word games our country would be far better off.

If homosexuals were still refereed as such rather than as gay which gives it a positive spin, and if Islamic terrorists were still refereed to as such instead of as illegal immigrants, which puts more of a positive spin on it, perhaps the war on terrorism might really mean something.

Just durn near everything these days has to have a positive spin on it to make it sound okay. It's called being politically correct.

But on the negative side is the war on women, the racism and sexism and the war on Christianity and are all designed by the liberals to divide and developed to throw our country into a tail spin.  Simply divide and concur. All being done by liberals. The liberals that dominate just about ever governmental institution and universities across the country.

All the so called freebies, the welfare, the Obamacare, the Obama Common Core and many other things are designed to bring our country to its knees. And bringing 100's of thousands of Islamic Muslims and leaving our borders open and Obama inviting people from south America to our lands is simply overloading the system.

And throw in Obama's overwhelming desire to disarm honest Americans to leave our country even more vulnerable is very dangerous.

What happens to overloaded systems Diane, do you have any idea?  They crash and everything has to change.
And it is all because of liberal socialists.

Far too many college educate people were indoctrinated into liberal socialism without even blinking an eye. Because they did not recognize what was happening. You have been very organizational programmed from what you have posted about organizations. Well NGO's are organizations and they work for themselves and do it for pay that comes from taxpayer money. And most are liberals wanting to control local governments, that is why they are called NGO's. they don;t have any desire to use the system as it is designed.

To back that up, I just manipulated you into admitting you read my posts!    Deny all you want..

So NO you and your liberal friends ridicule will never shut me up.
I am a conservative American Veteran and a Patriot.

GOD BLESS AMERICA



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on October 19, 2015, 03:59:30 PM
ONE OF THE MANY LIBERAL PERVERSIONS


Chaz Bono claims he cannot find a girlfriend because he 'repels' women

Today, the politically correct thing is to teach everyone that being transgender is OK and normal. But how does life really turn out for them? Chaz Bono, the daughter-turned-son of Cher, says he cannot find a lifetime partner.

The New York Daily News reports,

"I seem to repel women that I am attracted to," Bono told Confidenti@l at the Les Girls charity fund-raiser in Los Angeles." He says, "I have been single for four years, which has been a great thing and (it's) great to have time to myself."

Starting in summer 2008, Bono, born Chastity Bono to the pop-star duo of Sonny and Cher, began a two-year gender reassignment treatment that made him the man he is today.
...
"I have always been in a male mentality," he said. "Other than that mentally things haven't changed that much. Unfortunately I don't have any insight into women. I wish I did have more, but I really don't."

As much as the pro-transgender crowd wants to normalize changing genders, how normal will it really make the lives of those who transition? Hillary Clinton is running on a platform that brags about being the first woman president.  Where does that leave transgenders? Some aren't even fully transitioned, but prefer to identify as neither gender. When the far left is feuding with the far left, perhaps we need to allow people to figure out who they are, instead of this blind rush to force acceptance of all transgender upon anyone who thinks it might be a possibility — especially the kids.

http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=17068.80;last_msg=226827
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Jane on October 20, 2015, 05:30:26 AM
I guess Diana has inside information. There is no news station saying Joe Biden is running. In fact he  is to let everyone know either today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on October 20, 2015, 05:55:54 AM
Quote from: Jane on October 20, 2015, 05:30:26 AM
I guess Diana has inside information. There is no news station saying Joe Biden is running. In fact he  is to let everyone know either today or tomorrow.


Liberals !
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 23, 2015, 10:10:40 AM
Jane, my "insider" was totally wrong! He, a local politician in the House of Rep., and a close friend of Joe's, should have known, but sure didn't. So much for sourcing him again! HA!
I'm glad Joe isn't running. He deserves to retire and enjoy life without working so hard.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: proelkco on October 23, 2015, 10:50:27 AM
Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 24, 2015, 07:43:25 AM
Interesting ,according to one of my friends who reads but rarely posts, Ross now has "proof "that I do read every word he writes.I can't imagine why he thinks that because it isn't true. Franky, I haven't had the time recently to read any of it, let alone come back with something. Once again he is wrong, wrong,wrong .Why does he think he is that important to me? Baloney!
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Joesue23 on October 24, 2015, 10:29:29 AM
Diane you and all of the Forum knows that you are lying because Ross said you were and Ross is never wrong.         
Now watch him come after me , he will say I am lying next, or he will have some other rude remarks to make. Diane just keep on keeping on, my guess is more people read your posts  than they do Ross or Redcliffs.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on October 24, 2015, 03:44:51 PM


Okay, okay. I give you ladies win!

I'm tired of playing dumb anyway! LOL

I concede, i know everything, you ladies are so right! 
I just can't hide it any longer! I'm perfect!

I am never ever wrong, how can someone be PERFECT and be wrong!

So, I must concede to you ladies!

Thanks for letting my secret out and forcing me out of hiding!

I tried real hard to make errors and mistakes and appologize as being just a normal human being.

It just didn't work.

So the truth is, I am a super human with infallible  intelligence.

Please, don't bother bowing down, it really isn't necessary.

And may you both have a great day!
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on October 28, 2015, 03:15:21 PM
Thanks JS.
I have no idea who reads what any longer. I just know who/what I do read.
Right now I'm more concerned with some City of Newark projects and helping our Aetna Ladies Aux. raise money.... and whether John Carney has a shot at becoming Delaware's next governor.  Al and I have known him for many years, but in a small state like we are, that's easy to do.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on November 02, 2015, 10:38:02 AM
The politics here in new Castle County just blew up big time.Suddenly, out of nowhere, our stinker crook of a County Executive fired his hand picked CEO, who is also a stinker and a bully.
  It was a real political cat fight with name calling and personal attacks.I can't wait to follow this and see what happens. I'm expecting to see the FBI any day! WOOO!
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Wilma on November 02, 2015, 11:58:48 AM
Keep us informed.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on November 03, 2015, 08:08:09 AM
This New Castle County nonsense gets juicer and juicer.The CEO that was just fired during a political cat fight was stopped for speeding through the town of Elsemere, which is a notorious speed trap just outside the City of Wilmington. Turns out he was driving on a suspended license! HA! What next?
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on December 05, 2015, 11:33:10 AM
I've been thinking about killers and Muslims.
The media keeps the Muslim religion as a hot topic, so people are  being indoctrinated to think that all Muslims are killers at heart.There is something very strange about all this and I can't quite put my finger on it.
Some American blacks have adopted the Muslim faith and adopted Muslim names for many years, but didn't immediately become suspected of supporting terrorism. (Cassius Clay and others.) What about killers who aren't Muslim? Is that OK then?
What about those good ol' boys, Americans all, who become serial killers? Does anybody care what religion they are/were? Of what faith was Hitler and his henchmen? Did it matter? How many serial killers can you list and what,  if any religion were they? Why are we letting ourselves believe that all Muslims want to kill anyone who isn't a Muslim? What do we really know to be true about Isis?
The nut case who wiped out the Amish school girls wasn't Muslim, neither were the boys who took out Columbine. Does the average person know the difference between Christian Syrians and Muslim Syrians? How about Hindu Indians and Pakistanis. Who are those Arabs anyway, and the Egyptians....Coptic or not? Sounds like a good time for some intense world history. Hey, how about those Crusaders!
Yes, there is no doubt that some of the recent events were perpetrated by people who were Muslim. Just as there are creepy priests and coaches, there will be bad versions of humans 'most everywhere.
I wish people wouldn't rush to label everyone and tar everyone with the same brush.That can be very bad business.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: readyaimduck on December 05, 2015, 01:06:35 PM
The second sentence is the most important, IMHO.  Media will paint any picture they can to spread fear by the ones who are purchased with the most money." I pay for you, now you will say what I believe."

It all started with Prohibition, Tobacco, Computers, now assault rifles. The problem is with alcohol, technology and guns:  in the wrong hands it will be always be used for bad, given access..  Those that have no morals, will abuse the item.

To the media:  Follow the money, then follow the fear.  This country was not built on fear, but belief as to what is true, not fear gossip/manipulation

I agree Diane:  Painting a broad brush with predjudice and bigotry is harmful to all innocent bystanders. I blame the media and the money-power-hungry supporters.
IF that were the case:  all military people are murderers. (slanted view to make a point)

ready to...confiscate and send all assault rifles to only to the military to keep us safe.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Anmar on December 05, 2015, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 05, 2015, 11:33:10 AM
I've been thinking about killers and Muslims.
The media keeps the Muslim religion as a hot topic, so people are is being indoctrinated to think that all Muslims are killers at heart.There is something very strange about all this and I can't quite put my finger on it.
Some American blacks have adopted the Muslim faith and adopted Muslim names for many years, but didn't immediately become suspected of supporting terrorism. (Cassius Clay and others.) What about killers who aren't Muslim? Is that OK then?
What about those good ol' boys, Americans all, who become serial killers? Does anybody care what religion they are/were? Of what faith was Hitler and his henchmen? Did it matter? How many serial killers can you list and what,  if any religion were they? Why are we letting ourselves believe that all Muslims want to kill anyone who isn't a Muslim? What do we really know to be true about Isis?
The nut case who wiped out the Amish school girls wasn't Muslim, neither were the boys who took out Columbine. Does the average person know the difference between Christian Syrians and Muslim Syrians? How about Hindu Indians and Pakistanis. Who are those Arabs anyway, and the Egyptians....Coptic or not? Sounds like a good time for some intense world history. Hey, how about those Crusaders!
Yes, there is no doubt that some of the recent events were perpetrated by people who were Muslim. Just as there are creepy priests and coaches, there will be bad versions of humans 'most everywhere.
I wish people wouldn't rush to label everyone and tar everyone with the same brush.That can be very bad business.

Prisons are full of guys named Jesus.  Just sayin
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: redcliffsw on December 05, 2015, 06:36:51 PM

Strange?  Yes it is.

Islam is not a religion, it's a political system.



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on December 05, 2015, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: Anmar on December 05, 2015, 03:51:38 PM
Prisons are full of guys named Jesus.  Just sayin

First off this recent Islamic Terrorist attack was performed by a Muslim born and raised here in the good old US of A.  He was an American.

All religions have an aspect of politics, they have their pecking order and those that set the churches doctrine. They each have their rules they follow.

So this American Muslim memorized the Quran and was out to kill the infidels. Something Obama does not want to admit.


Quote from: Anmar on December 05, 2015, 03:51:38 PM
Prisons are full of guys named Jesus.  Just sayin

The Jesus most Americans referee to is not a joke!

Now about this remark and the fact that you Anmar have shown a dislike for some ideology's I have suspected you are an Islamic Muslim, this remark strengthens that suspicion!

So, I must ask outright are you an Islamic Muslim or Muslim or Islamic or any combination there of?

If you are not I would welcome a condemnation of the Quran and ISIS, and then I may appologize for my suspicions.

Merry Christmas to you and your Anmar a very Merry Christmas is my sincerest wish for you.




Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on December 05, 2015, 07:28:02 PM



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WHO KNOWS FOR SURE?
AND WHY IS OBAMA TRYING TOO COVER FOR THEM?





Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on December 05, 2015, 08:24:00 PM





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Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: redcliffsw on December 06, 2015, 07:58:26 AM

The Confederate flag is an international symbol against tyranny.  The liberals and socialists don't like it - Republicans and Democrats alike call for it to be taken down.

Yet, Republicans and Democrats work together to allow more Muslims et al and their customs into this country and defend them.  Why can't they defend the Confederate flag? 

The Confederates stood for the north's Constitution.  Keep flying the Confederate flag.

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on December 06, 2015, 08:04:35 AM




Hey Red did you see what Warph posted about republicans ?
What uncanny timing, Huh?

What a great post. Thanks Warph.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=08iTxTg15BM#t=514





Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: redcliffsw on December 06, 2015, 08:15:06 AM


He knows.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on December 07, 2015, 09:03:34 AM
Well....If I were a betting person, I'd have won. It only took a few posts for you to change my subject to those  confederates again. I'm shaking my head in sadness.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: redcliffsw on December 08, 2015, 07:17:46 AM

You appear to be saying that Americans the Confederates are evil than the Muslims?

Confederates ought to be honored in America. 






Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on December 08, 2015, 04:34:18 PM
Don't you dare put words in my mouth.I'll put a spell on you.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: redcliffsw on December 09, 2015, 05:07:03 AM
Fly the Confederate flag - Resist tyranny.
                         

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Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on December 19, 2015, 01:21:08 PM



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Pray for Frosty




Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on March 05, 2016, 10:12:09 AM
So now that the political cat and dog fights are in full swing, I'm trying to figure out who to vote for of the people who might be left and actually get the nominations.
Donald Trump scares me because of his "this is fun" attitudes. He will want to buy his way into and out of whatever he wants and is used to being in total control. He may make congress his enemy very quickly. Being a successful business man isn't enough with no military or political experience. He doesn't say HOW he is going to accomplish anything. Who will he have surrounding him? Perhaps he doesn't think he would need a cabinet and may not even live in the White House....too shabby for him. HA! What kind of a first lady would his wife make?
As far as I'm concerned, Cruz doesn't qualify to run, I don't care who his mother is, period.
Hillary has tons of experience, but many people don't trust her.
I still can't figure out Bernie Sanders. I guess I'll have to keep watching.
Our local politics is just as bad, in fact one our our "say it like it is" radio commentators was just fired for being very critical of the Wilmington Police Dept. at least we think that's why he was let go. I haven't heard anything certain. There is a bad area that is having very serious gun, drug and gang activity with almost a shooting a day now, with many innocent people being harmed. I just never go into the city anymore. I'll stay here in Newark.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on March 06, 2016, 08:55:13 AM
Nothing but Red today?....What a shame. By the way, the news coverage of the KKK rally in which some were roughed up, I saw mostly American flags, but sure enough there were some Confederate flags mixed in. I saw them myself.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on March 06, 2016, 09:09:41 AM


I personally don't like Trump and haven't liked him for many years.

However, I appreciate that he shook up the RNC Establishment and the Republican party as a whole and the Politically Correct.

I find that not a one of the nominees are truthful ! They can not afford to be truthful.

I do believe the majority of American citizens are upset with the whole political Establishment and that is why people are looking towards Trump as anti-establishment.

Personally I have not made up my mind because there really isn't enough truthfulness to do so.

I think it will end up voting for the least of the bad contenders.

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on March 06, 2016, 09:12:47 AM

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Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on March 11, 2016, 01:59:06 PM
I broke my own rule and was so curious about Red's safety inspection thing that I read it.
It isn't even close to the way it is done here. New cars get a 4 year inspection sticker. Older cars like mine can get two years  at a time also.
We have special inspection stations, a couple in each county, that we drive through. The inspector does several quick safety checks... lights, wipers, exhaust pollution, horn, run-up- to- a  censor- and -slam- on- the- breaks- check. We don't even have to get out of the car, let alone leave it and come back for it later.
If we pass, we drive up to the pay window, pay, and they hand us the new sticker to attach ourselves. If something doesn't pass, we have a grace period to go where ever we wish to have it fixed and go back to have that one thing reinspected in a separate line. Not a big deal. Nobody scrapes stickers or plays with the lug nuts or anything else.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: frawin on March 11, 2016, 02:32:22 PM
Diane that is the way it is here in Texas, It was that way in Oklahoma and Kansas as well. My antique Cars Do not have to be Inspected here in Texas. I have them Checked very Throughly and make sure the Tires and everything else is Safe and in Good shape.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on March 11, 2016, 03:46:53 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Jane on March 11, 2016, 04:12:56 PM
We have never had out cars inspected here in Kansas. If they every did, it was before my time.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: W. Gray on March 11, 2016, 04:54:04 PM
When I left Kansas many years ago there was no inspection required.

After moving to Colroado, a safety inspection was required upon registering a vehicle and then every year thereafter. I thought it was a pain, especially finding a place that was not too busy to perform the inspection. The safety inspections were done by service stations and the like. I cannot remember what the cost was.

The safety inspection was replaced almost thirty years ago with an Emissions inspection. The safety inspection was dropped at that time. The Denver area was and still can be polluted badly.

Originally, the requirement was for an annual inspection. Then, due to the increased dependability of the anti-pollution equipment, the law was changed to require an inspection four years after the car was manufactured and every other year afterward. That time is now seven years after being manufactured and then every other year.

The emissions inspection is only needed in the Denver metro area and in some other highly populated and polluted areas. Cars older than 1981 have to have an annual inspection and cars classified as a "collector's car" have to have an emissions inspection every five years.

Emission inspection stations are operated by the state and they perform extensive testing, which require you to exit your car and watch from a glassed in area. The cost is $25. The 1981 and older cars cost $15.

I have had one car that failed. I went to a garage and they guaranteed that they would adjust the car to pass the inspection. It did. As long as you bring the car back within ten days for a retest, there is no charge. After that, you get charged for a retest. I traded the car in though as it apparently had developed a defective anti-pollution device.

Even though safety testing was discontinued, emissions inspectors can disqualify a car for safety reasons also. A car will fail, if there are alignment issues making it unstable on the dynamometer, dashboard lights warning of an equipment malfunction or low fluid levels, inoperable driver door, ineffective brakes, overheating engine, fluid leaks, or transmissions issues causing faulty shifting.

I had a car, which failed because the engine warning light was on. I swear it popped on while I was waiting in line. Turned out nothing was wrong and the light went out by itself after a few miles. Took it back and it passed. The light never came on again.

Hybrids have to have an emission test and there is no reason to test an electric. Diesels have a different testing program.

The state also runs roadside emissions tests intended to find polluters at random.

A VIN inspection is required if one is bringing a car into the state for registration, but then only if the car is older than six years old. The emissions inspectors charge $20 for the VIN inspection.


Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: jarhead on March 12, 2016, 08:22:08 AM
The only inspections that I recall ever having is when I've bought a couple of trucks with a wrecked /salvage title. Then it's done by a highway patrolman and pretty much just making sure the VIN is correct.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on March 12, 2016, 03:18:58 PM



I just read the other day that the Auto industry is lobbying hard for annual safety inspections in all states, because there is a lot of money in it for them. It dang sure isn't about safety or they could careless it is about the money involved.

I seem to remember that they said only eleven states are now requiring safety and that many more use to do them but quit.

Here is a statement from an article that makes perfect sense about Safety Inspections, "One reason fatality rates don't correlate with safety inspections is that most accidents don't involve mechanical failure, according to several studies." it is located  deep in the article at http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/6805581-74/inspections-cars-safety

The article continues and sounds like bureaucrats unsure about what they are saying, i.e. " Numerous studies have concluded that inspection systems aren't worth the cost, but other studies have concluded the opposite."

Apparently the only thing taht is fact is and I repeat from the article,  "One reason fatality rates don't correlate with safety inspections is that most accidents don't involve mechanical failure, according to several studies."

The safety inspection stations are alos a source of income for the state --- Stickers another form of taxation.

If Safety Inspections are of real importance, why don't the States where cars are manufactured or where the cars are brought into the US ----  hold safety inspections, before they are allowed to be sold to the public. There have been many, many recalls for numerous safety problems.


Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on March 17, 2016, 03:39:40 PM
Every state should be able to do inspections (or not) as they wish. Here most of the failures are from vehicles owned by young  drivers who bought a cheap car and are trying to make it road worthy.
I had one car that would aways blow out the rear license plate light. I finally kept a spare bulb and put it in when I got to the inspection lane.
The more common failures here are emissions, brakes and bald tires.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Wilma on March 17, 2016, 10:23:52 PM
The safety inspections didn't apply to new cars.  They came with their own inspection before they reached the public.  It concerned mostly the vehicles of private sale and some dealers of used cars.  The trustworthy dealers provided inspection for the vehicles they sold.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on March 18, 2016, 08:04:24 AM
Our new cars are the same. A 4 year sticker comes to the dealer with the licence plate.  An inpection should catch some things before something goes wrong, on older vehicles, like no horn and bald tires.
A few years ago we were driving south of Newark when a car about three cars ahead of us lost their right front wheel and it went bouncing off across the country side and into a shopping center parking lot. It disappeared behind a building, so I don't know where or how it finally stopped. I was amazed the driver managed to stop without wrecking. Crunch!
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on March 18, 2016, 08:23:13 AM
I see that "cookies and cream" are leaving the US.That is just disgusting...so many jobs will be lost. I wish the candidates would speak up and figure out how to stop it.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on March 23, 2016, 01:28:55 PM
So, I see the educational twists and turns are going strong.
What happened to helping older kids learn to think and make decisions on their own? Put those kids heads in a vise and nothing but sterilized information ever gets in?  No thinking, pondering, or wondering, or weighing the good vs the evil? Which is which?
Why must some teach hate?
I had "The Worlds Great Religions in 10th grade. It was a really good class and explained differences without "indoctrinating" anyone to or from any of them.
Let's keep those kids ignorant about the big world around them, of which Christians are a very small part... and there are many kinds of those. How about it?
  Is only one kind "right?" Are Mormons heathens? How about Quakers? Catholics, Unitarians and Agnostics? Amish? Church of England? How about Hindus VS Muslims...or are they all just primitive towel heads?.
Lock up your kids .."it" might be contagious. How sad and un- American. Perhaps the Statue of Liberty should dip her torch in the Hudson River and extinguish it.
Good Friday and Easter are a few days away. I haven't heard one dissenting remark from any of the local religions here, including Shinto,Tao and others. Are we really just "Ugly Americans"?
   Once again, I'm waiting to hear just how the candidates are going to wave their magic wands and accomplish all the grand and glorious things they are promising. Notice D. Trump never tells HOW he is going to do all the things that he promises? His own national party seems to be turning on him. When Push Comes to Shove, what will the Electoral College do in November?
Shucks, I can hardly figure out the various ways those who are running will actually get their delegated votes, it's not clear and clear cut at all. The states and the parties are all so different.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Wilma on March 23, 2016, 02:21:01 PM
I think you have a point there, somewhere.  I am so confused, too and every day it gets more sickening.  How can anyone that insults everybody, then denies having done so, lead this great country?  How can so many people not see just what is happening?  I can only hope that finally we will be given a good choice and that we make it.  I can't say who I might vote for because right now there isn't any one wanting to be president that would make a truly good one.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on March 23, 2016, 03:37:50 PM
Sorry, if my points were so buried.  ;D  I just don't know what to think.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on March 23, 2016, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on March 23, 2016, 03:37:50 PM
Sorry, if my points were so buried.  ;D  I just don't know what to think.

Education does not stop with a degree. Things change constantly.

Perhaps, if you paid attention to other than the mainstream media you would have an idea of what is going on in the world. The mainstream media has been proven to be biased and untrustworthy. But who can we trust, really? The president lies through his teeth as do the politicians.

So, we must be able to think for ourselves while weighing as many sources as possible.
The internet has search engines of many flavors and all a person has to do is ask a question and then start thinking.

Here is one source that might help you understand some of what is going on:
http://100percentfedup.com/u-s-department-education-teachers-incorporate-islam-subjects/.

I hope it helps you figure out what you want to know, bu remember you can ask the internet any question you may have. This is terrific technology, just type your question in the space provided on your browser, which is commonly refereed to as the address bar or choose whatever search engine you desire to use.

There are also a couple of threads right here on the forum under politics that are loaded with information.

I wish you a good evening.





Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: redcliffsw on March 24, 2016, 07:20:04 AM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on March 23, 2016, 01:28:55 PM
So, I see the educational twists and turns are going strong.
What happened to helping older kids learn to think and make decisions on their own? Put those kids heads in a vise and nothing but sterilized information ever gets in?  No thinking, pondering, or wondering, or weighing the good vs the evil? Which is which?
Why must some teach hate?
I had "The Worlds Great Religions in 10th grade. It was a really good class and explained differences without "indoctrinating" anyone to or from any of them.
Let's keep those kids ignorant about the big world around them, of which Christians are a very small part... and there are many kinds of those. How about it?
  Is only one kind "right?" Are Mormons heathens? How about Quakers? Catholics, Unitarians and Agnostics? Amish? Church of England? How about Hindus VS Muslims...or are they all just primitive towel heads?.
Lock up your kids .."it" might be contagious. How sad and un- American. Perhaps the Statue of Liberty should dip her torch in the Hudson River and extinguish it.
Good Friday and Easter are a few days away. I haven't heard one dissenting remark from any of the local religions here, including Shinto,Tao and others. Are we really just "Ugly Americans"?
   Once again, I'm waiting to hear just how the candidates are going to wave their magic wands and accomplish all the grand and glorious things they are promising. Notice D. Trump never tells HOW he is going to do all the things that he promises? His own national party seems to be turning on him. When Push Comes to Shove, what will the Electoral College do in November?
Shucks, I can hardly figure out the various ways those who are running will actually get their delegated votes, it's not clear and clear cut at all. The states and the parties are all so different.

Diane, which religions are right? 

Are you committed to any particular religion?

Just asking . . . . . .

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on March 24, 2016, 08:27:23 AM
Nope, sorry didn't read 'em. I'm sure they were nothin' but snide remarks and patronizing put downs.Who needs it? I didn't get any PMs this time so it must just be more on how I should fix myself. HA!
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on March 24, 2016, 11:43:26 AM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on March 24, 2016, 08:27:23 AM
Nope, sorry didn't read 'em. I'm sure they were nothin' but snide remarks and patronizing put downs.Who needs it? I didn't get any PMs this time so it must just be more on how I should fix myself. HA!

Ignorance Is Bliss !

Degree or not  !
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 08, 2016, 02:54:22 PM
I got an interesting PM. I don't know how you good folks can stand the constant insults to the general population of Elk County. I don't understand how someone would want to live in a place that one considers so stupid and backward. Bless your hearts, maybe you have certain ones on ignore, as I do, and they are just wasting their time. I surely hope so.
Our monthly fire company meeting is this evening... some hot topics to discuss.  Here's hoping that your fires are out and won't return.
The general feeling here is that, while entertaining to watch, Trump is too narrow minded and strong egoed to make a good president for all Americans. I can't imagine what the Republican party will do when it finally comes down to choosing a candidate. Trump can't buy and sue his way to the White House...or can he?
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 10, 2016, 02:24:23 PM
Who said these "famous" words...3376-(9/2/15) "I only stepped up to the plate as a leader in the community."
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on April 10, 2016, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 08, 2016, 02:54:22 PM
I got an interesting PM. I don't know how you good folks can stand the constant insults to the general population of Elk County. I don't understand how someone would want to live in a place that one considers so stupid and backward. Bless your hearts, maybe you have certain ones on ignore, as I do, and they are just wasting their time. I surely hope so.

You have no clue because you fail at reading the posts or are lying 1nd that is being polite, considering I am talking to an outsider in Delaware.

An outsider who does sneaky things like continuing the preactice shooting her mouth off on a different thread and trying to hide it.

Well you fail at that as well.

A grade for teacher in communications

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The Truth Hurts Doesn't it?



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 11, 2016, 03:31:08 PM
Nope,didn't read it. I'm sure it has no productive value. I will respond to something Waldo said. Sometime back Ross did write a lenghty letter to The Prarie Star.It was rejected, not because of content  so much, but because of length. Ross wanted it to be printed for free.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on April 11, 2016, 05:38:45 PM



Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 11, 2016, 03:31:08 PM
Nope,didn't read it. I'm sure it has no productive value. I will respond to something Waldo said. Sometime back Ross did write a lenghty letter to The Prarie Star.It was rejected, not because of content  so much, but because of length. Ross wanted it to be printed for free.

She failed to  mention the very same Kon nected Editor has printed much lengthier letters to the editor.
She fails to mention the Kon nected bias of the editor.
And she often fails to stay on subject.

She fails all the time.

But she never fails to read everything I post.
I think she is infatuated with me. LOL



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 12, 2016, 09:45:29 AM
Again, I didn't waste my time reading this go round of "Diane put downs." If I'm wrong and he said something nice, someone will have to tell me.
We just came back from voting for our district councilman. It's chilly and a bit rainy, which always hurts the turn out. I caught one contestant driving up the road ahead of us talking on her cell phone, which is illegal here.HA! I should turn her in. ;D ;D ;D ;D. We'll get the results about 8:30 this evening.
I've been doing some interesting reading on passive- agressive personalities and people who have to be right all the time. They are very rude and verbally agressive to anyone who has a difference of opinion. Most are annoying but harmless, and are usually an embarassment to those around them.They are very quick to accuse others of behaviors they themselves are guilty of, and always have to have the last word. They have very few real friends because they can't be trusted.
I'm getting hungry and have a nice salad waiting for me. Later all.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Mom70x7 on April 12, 2016, 02:44:52 PM
I have a daughter who is passive-aggressive. Good description. When the kids were growing up, we told them arguing with her was like talking to a brick wall. Frustrating, and you'll never win.  :D :D
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 12, 2016, 02:58:14 PM
How true.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: proelkco on April 12, 2016, 03:23:55 PM
So very true and sad.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on April 12, 2016, 03:27:52 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 12, 2016, 09:45:29 AM
Again, I didn't waste my time reading this go round of "Diane put downs." If I'm wrong and he said

Oh yes you did, you read every word. Everyone knows it ! 
Other wise you would not  mention my name.

That is called Infatuation.

Just leave my name out and stop referring to me if you are not infatuated with me.

ROFLMAO


Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 13, 2016, 07:27:07 AM
My Newark City Councilman, the one I worked for during his re election bid, did win by about a two to one margin. He's a good caring person who tries to be fair to everyone.
Al is still chairman of the Planning Commission and will be through 2017.They have a training session tonight, mostly for the new folks who don't have much Gov't experience. They need to learn more about what the  responsibilities of the commission are and are not.  Al will chair that meeting also. I'm pleased that he gets so many compliments on the well organized professional meetings he runs.
I see my nemesis has posted again. He doesn't give up. What creepy thing did he have to say now, and who will he try to chase away with endless insults.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on April 13, 2016, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 13, 2016, 07:27:07 AM
I see my nemesis has posted again. He doesn't give up. What creepy thing did he have to say now, and who will he try to chase away with endless insults.

So now you call me back by calling me you nemesis?

I think it is because of your infatuation with me and i promised you I would always respond to you attempted back-stabbing and sneakiness, didn't I? I am a man of my word! If you don't want to hear from me stop calling me. LOL

Now that is sorry of you to blame me for your downfall.
Nemesis definition = the inescapable agent of someone's or something's downfall.

Your downfall is your own doing, developed by your inability to stop being  back-stabbing and sneaky.
I have no control over that, only you do.

Teacher when do you learn ?  Learn to control your infatuation of me and stop calling me PLEASE.



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 14, 2016, 04:40:28 PM
Again?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on April 14, 2016, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 14, 2016, 04:40:28 PM
Again?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You read it !
See you can no longer deny the truth. LOL



DYN - 0 - MITE !
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 15, 2016, 08:08:54 AM
And once more he posts. D. Does he really think I read his stuff?  Nope.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on April 15, 2016, 08:33:57 AM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 15, 2016, 08:08:54 AM
And once more he posts. D. Does he really think I read his stuff?  Nope.

You called?
I promised when you call I'll respond and I don't like going back on my word.
Did you like my post? LOL
Thanks for the confirmation.



Quote from: ROSS on April 14, 2016, 09:50:02 PM
You red it !
See you can no longer deny the truth. LOL


ROFLMAO because I'm just having so much fun responding.


DYN - 0 - MITE !
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 15, 2016, 08:58:41 AM
What is he doing? :P
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on April 15, 2016, 09:57:24 AM



You must be really hard up for attention to call me back so soon!


You called?
I promised when you call I'll respond and I don't like going back on my word.
Did you like my post? LOL
Thanks for the confirmation.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 15, 2016, 12:41:00 PM
Would some please tell this computer dummy I'm not reading, or going to read anything he says.He should go bug someone else.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on April 15, 2016, 01:38:55 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 15, 2016, 12:41:00 PM
Would some please tell this computer dummy I'm not reading, or going to read anything he says.He should go bug someone else.


Why you must be the computer dummy and no one can tell me you are not reading what I post?

All you have to do is smartin up a little and stop calling me.

You read it !
See you can no longer deny the truth. LOL



DYN - 0 - MITE !

if you want this bull shit to end all you have to do is politely release me from my promise to respond when you call me and stop the back stabbing,  then never call me again.

If you call me you then break the release.

Can you comprehend that?

That does not mean I will not respond to your posts about politics or anything else.

Try real hard to comprehend what is written here. I am good for my word as you have experienced!


It's all your game and you can end it.

Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 22, 2016, 07:58:41 AM
It's a nice day and I hope things have simmered down so I can post this without problems.
  I was amazed to find out that "The Donald " will be appearing at our state fair grounds. That is very unusual as most candidates don't bother with Delaware as we have so little influence and delegates, in spite of having the VP right now. I doubt any Repub. candidates will bother, and I can see why.Too much cost without enough return. We don't do official polls here, but our primary is Tuesday. There is a move afoot to combine primaries, school referendums and local voting here to just one day in May to save a lot of money. Sounds good to me, even if they will fight over it for awhile, I'm sure.
Sadly, we had a  15 year old female high school student killed in Wilmington's Howard Technical High School yesterday. Supposedly, they were fighting over a boy before classes started.They were in the girl's lavatory. Several girls jumped the one girl, beat the heck of her and smashed her head into the lavatory. This will have huge consequences as details unfold. Such a sad state of affairs.
Have a good, quiet uneventful day.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on April 27, 2016, 09:13:50 AM
Surprise! Hillary and Bernie did show up in Delaware, with one day's notice. I was surprised when Trump showed up, but the other two? Amazing! We have so few delegates in a winner take all race that we don't ususally get any notice to speak of. Trump and Hillary swept the state. Now on the the next one.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on May 06, 2016, 11:54:28 AM
Oh my, what will the Republican party do now? Trumphf has caused such divisiveness, I just can't imagine how they will pull this off. His own party is starting to whistle and count their shoe laces. Quite a few of my staunch Repub. friends just can't see Trumpf representing our country at anything international, and some countries may take away the welcome mat if they believe his nastiness, arrogance and condescending attitude is really how he is. (Talk about the "Ugly American.") They do not accept him as a true Republican.
He is very much a liar, and seems to have no grasp on how things really work in American Gov't. He just can't buy everything and everybody he wants to, in spite of his vast wealth.
I've been watching and listening to everything I can find on every radio and TV channel and I'm still just shocked at what Trumpf is doing. Even the ultra conservatives are backing off. I don't think he would know the Constitution if he fell over it
I'm waiting for his first go 'round with  Paul Ryan. That's where most of the power really lies and he is not about to give it up. Congress may yet have to slam the door on Trumpf.
Some are wondering about a fast run by a third party candidate.
Some just can't see a "foreign" Barbie doll as a first lady either.
Trumpf better start figuring out how to woo the many, many Independents like me who have seen through his antics and aren't impressed. Especially his nonsense about using "his own" money to run his campaign....what a crock! He has leagues of lawyers to make sure it looks that way, but isn't costing him any personal $ at all... all smoke and mirrors. He indeed does have donations he uses, and now will come all the super pac money.
He scares me. There is no way I'd ever vote for him, ever. I'll vote for an odd party candidate first.
Between Hillary and Bernie, I'm still not sure. There are things I don't care for about both of them, but I'm sure either would try their best. Time to take another antacid.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: proelkco on May 06, 2016, 01:58:56 PM
Trump would be no worse than what we have now. Hilary and Bernie are worse than Trump but better than what we have now. So it leaves us with not much to choose from. They all scare me for our future. Nice and sunny here today. Hope you have a great weekend.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on May 06, 2016, 02:04:04 PM
More rain here and awfully cold. Hopes for improvement tomorrow.Thanks for your thoughts.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 05, 2016, 05:35:12 PM
I just can't stand it. The Donald actually made fun of a disabled news journalist who is rather spastic.. Has that man no heart at all? How incredibly rude and common. He wants to represent us on the world stage? Yikes!
On the other hand, Joe Biden came back to town to walk in the nearby Hockessin Fourth of July parade. It's a real small town event with music, bands, scouts and decorated bikes. It was nice to see him home again. They got the parade in before the rain came.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: redcliffsw on July 06, 2016, 04:13:13 AM


You don't think that Trump is the guy to keep us in the New World Order?


I have to admit I don't think Trump is being a very good socialist or one-worlder.  No wonder that the Republicans, Obama and Hillary don't take much liking to him.


Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 06, 2016, 08:10:12 AM
Trump is for nothing and no one except himself. I don't think he would know a modern socialist from a communist from a skin head to an anarchist.
He doesn't read history. He sees himself as making it off the backs of anyone who gets in his way.That's what is wanted as our President? We might as well retire the position
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on July 08, 2016, 06:12:21 AM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on July 06, 2016, 08:10:12 AM
Trump is for nothing and no one except himself. I don't think he would know a modern socialist from a communist from a skin head to an anarchist.
He doesn't read history. He sees himself as making it off the backs of anyone who gets in his way.That's what is wanted as our President? We might as well retire the position


Say what ?
That is what all the politicians do!
What business doesn't make it iff the backs of other people?
They all sell Economic Development so their business get richer making them richer!

Don't you love Economic Development any longer?

How do you know what he reads in privacy?

And Hillary is above the law !

We have no body really running for President that is worth a Damn.
Having Obama campaigning for her is really not a plus. I hope he keeps it up on a weekly basis.

But in my opinion Trump (whom I do not like) is the lesser of two evils.
There is really nothing else to vote for.



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: jarhead on July 08, 2016, 10:25:58 AM
Quote from Ross:
But in my opinion Trump (whom I do not like) is the lesser of two evils.
There is really nothing else to vote for.

Nothing new here. Seems like that has pretty much been our option for way too many elections anymore.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Ross on July 08, 2016, 10:34:36 AM
Quote from: jarhead on July 08, 2016, 10:25:58 AM
Quote from Ross:
But in my opinion Trump (whom I do not like) is the lesser of two evils.
There is really nothing else to vote for.

Nothing new here. Seems like that has pretty much been our option for way too many elections anymore.

I agree with you Jarhead, it has been going on far too long.

We may not even make it to elections.

Obama is working real hard to start a Black and White war.



Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2016, 04:04:29 PM
It has already started with what has happened in Dallas. It will just continue, and get worse. The down side is they will go for the gun laws, not the people that did the shooting.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: upoladeb on July 08, 2016, 04:51:47 PM
Has anyone looked into the Libertarian Party?As a registered long time Republican I was looking for a alternative to the crook or the liar.(not saying any names)and came across Gary Johnson,so I went to the libertarian web site and been checking them out.I hope this can be a good talking point.
Title: Re: Political Opinions from the East Coast
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 30, 2016, 09:51:24 AM
Actually, I did look at Gary Johnson. I'm afraid he would just be a spoiler and help have the election handed to Trump, who still scares me.
I watched all of both conventions (I've never done that before) trying to sort out the typical campaign rhetoric that permeates all of them and get to the roots of what the country would be like with either of them as president.
Trump says he gets his economic information from TV "stories"...certainly not a sign of deep thinking. He has no political experience of any kind and seems to rankle and insult people as just part of his normal conversation. I really believe he would be clueless in dealing with congress, which like it or not will still be there. Surely he doesn't think he can bully and sue Congress into giving him his way.
As far as interacting with other countries, his recent escapades with Russia.... mouth first, engage brain later, says plenty. One cannot demand a "do over" for everything. He is a headline seeker first and a "leader" second.
I still have a hard time seeing him representing us on the world stage. Would he personally attend high end funerals and show up at disasters to comfort people or will we hear "he has people for that."
So he had tons of money...even worse...how can he possibly relate to the common man? He came from money also. He knows every trick to keep his money his and has a stable of well paid lawyers to give him every legal advantage. 
He cheats and lies. Just look at his "foundations" and his "college." Each one primarily adds to his wealth. It remind me of an enormous version of fund raising cheating schemes.
What is his real opinion/stance on gun control? I know the NRA is backing him, but so is the KKK.
Then there is the Electoral College. I need to read up again on the details of how that works.Will he attend church...or be "too busy. Where are his tax results? He's still ducking that. The people want to know! ( I'm not sure why it's important.)
Why has he stiffed workers and people with whom he has signed contracts? Those are the common people who he should be supporting the most.
As far as Hillary is concerned, she was given a very well organized Convention. She is trying to seem to be just the opposite of Trump. How it will play, I just don't know. There are plenty who don't like her, but if one piles the negative images of both of them, hers appears to be much smaller. Her history with Bill may make her seem like a hero, or it may hurt her.
There are some things I don't like about her, but the polls seem to have her ahead already. She has a lot of political experience and general knowledge at her disposal and was very successful and popular as a NY Senator and as Secretary of State. I already said my piece on Benghazi...  Information twisted and totally misused!
From now on they both will be pushed and pulled by handlers and their security people. She is used to it...he isn't. He's used to bodyguards, but they probably do as they are told.The secret service doesn't work that way. I'll be watching with interest as things unfold and will probably make my independent minded decision November first. Just my mental wanderings...My name is Diane and I approved this message. ;D