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Title: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Warph on February 14, 2010, 03:54:01 PM


New poll questions former governor's qualifications for top office.

Washington Post - ABC News Poll say, "We should count her out."  What do you think?

Impressions of Sarah Palin: Favorable 37% - Unfavorable 55%

Is Palin qualified to be President: Qualified 26% -- Unqualified 71%


http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/29014533/the-journal-editorial-report-2-13.htm
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: pamagain on February 16, 2010, 03:03:38 PM
QuoteIs Palin Fit for the Presidency?

No
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Teresa on February 16, 2010, 04:15:28 PM
HA~ Compared to WHAT?? Look at what we have now.
Hell~~ Barack Obama has never been..and never will be fit to be president
Give me a break!
Mickey Mouse is better than what we have now..

Of the four candidates in the 2008 election it was Palin who had the most experience in governing and running a business. The other three were lifelong members of the Senate who worked and voted as a group and never had any individual responsibility on anything!
Palin has run a commercial fishing business... been a two term mayor of a small city... been the chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission..., and governor of a state with a 41 billion dollar budget.  When she joined McCain as his running mate she had an 85% approval rating!  That.. folks...is the  highest among 50 governors.  :)
Although she couldn't match McCain in military experience... she still~~ as governor was in charge of the Alaska National Guard and was familiar with the missile defense system that was the US front line facing Russia, China and North Korea.

2008 was a brutal year for her..Sarah made the right decision to resign as governor... although on the surface it made her look like a 'quitter'. She was kinda between a rock and a hard place..
Her political enemies continued to bring every little nit picking so-called ethics violations they could against her...in order to damage her. By the time she finally resigned... the number of lawsuits totaled 16 and she found herself unable to do her job as governor because she was in court every day. The kicker was....despite the fact that every one of the ethics charges were ruled by the courts in Palin's favor she was going bankrupt .
I read.. and don't know if this is fact or not.... but she owed her defense lawyers $500,000.
Rather than be a lame one winged duck governor she resigned and the ethics charges suddenly slowed to a trickle.
((Shocker))..

I don't know if Palin will be a candidate in 2012... but he scuttlebutt right now is that she has to be among the top three or four GOP contenders.
Its just my opinion actually... but I don't think Sarah has any desire to be president.  She knows damn well she can do much more just as she is doing right where she's at.. Her new job with Fox News should bring her up to speed.. and help give her the cutting edge on foreign and domestic affairs...so if whatever comes down the pike for her.. she will also have that under her belt.
 
There are many conservatives (like myself) who REALLY like Sarah Palin ....but would rather see a different candidate for president. I think she'd be a good vice president but I think there are better candidates for president.

The best part about Palin is...The Liberals are terrified of her... ( I just LOVE that)   ;D
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: jarhead on February 16, 2010, 09:51:39 PM
Teresa,
I disagree with you. I think Palin will run if for no other reason but to rub all those liberal scum bags nose in it. They were on her case from day one and I think she wants revenge. At this point in time I think she might be the pick of the litter.If it is between her and this Muslim loving, anti-American,piece of dog crap we got now, she has my vote. I'm so pissed off right now i think I'm gonna loose it. You see how they are fighting for that city in Afghanistan ?? send my beloved Marines in to kill the enemy---but---if the combatant drops his weapon and you didn't see him do it, then you can't shoot the camel smelling puke. He gets to walk away to the next house and pick up the AK-47 hidden there and shoot some more until his sorry ass is about to get over-ran, then he drops that gun and goes to the next house. No way to fight a war. Damn it all to hell !!!!
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Warph on February 16, 2010, 11:42:39 PM


I agree with you on how they are fighting the war in Afghanistan, Jarhead.... it is one big pile of bullshit.  My brother is as mad as you.  Commanding General Stanley McChrystal has made limiting civilian casualties a higher priority than loss of American lives according to the article below... what the hell has happened to our military??  I agree with one of the comments, "to hell with the civilians, take 'em all out."


U.S. Marine At Battle Of Marja: Who Can Tell The Good Ones From The Bad Ones?
The United States Marines now fighting the battle of Marja, Afghanistan are facing a most difficult mission.  They are tasked with clearing the town of Taliban fighters – and they are restricted by rules of engagement not seen heretofore in the history of U.S. warfare.  Commanding General Stanley McChrystal has made limiting civilian casualties a higher priority than loss of American lives.  And it is impossible to tell who is the enemy in a Muslim State that still resembles the Stone Age.  The Los Angeles Times coverage by Tony Perry and Laura King is here:

"Reporting from Kabul, Afghanistan, and Marja, Afghanistan — Ambushes, sniper fire and a labyrinth of buried bombs again slowed a drive by U.S. Marines and Afghan troops Monday to rid a former Taliban stronghold of insurgents.

The arduous progress on the offensive's third day...could take weeks..."

The Marines, especially during WWII, were used for direct frontal assaults and complete destruction of enemy positions.  Clearing buildings is nerve-racking, exhausting, painstaking work.  I did it as a cop.  Every structure must be approached and searched as though the enemy is within.

"...Elsewhere in southern Afghanistan, NATO reported that its troops had killed civilians in a second errant attack in as many days. A patrol of coalition forces in Kandahar province, which borders Helmand, spotted what it mistakenly thought was a group of insurgents planting bombs and called in an airstrike Monday that killed five of them and injured two others, Western military officials said..."

And civilian deaths, a terrible part of all wars, will be reported and re-reported by the American Press Corps.  McChrystal will quickly apologize and the unbelievable pressure not to kill the wrong person will increase.  The Marines all know that there are soldiers now sitting in U.S. prisons who did kill the wrong people during combat operations.

"... Marines on the ground said the hidden explosive devices were both more numerous and more sophisticated than expected..."

Well, I wonder where all of this sophisticated ordnance is coming from.  If these IED munitions are manufactured outside Afghanistan, why have we not leveled the plants where they are made, a long time ago?

"...Some Taliban fighters are believed to have fled before the assault began, and even as the battle continued, cars carrying fighting-age men could be seen among vehicles leaving the town..."

All of which is going to make this a very long drawn-out conflict.  We've been there since 2001.  When an invasion is broadcast for weeks in advance like this one was, why would the enemy not run away and come back to fight another day?

"...Some Marja residents did what they could to help the U.S. and Afghan forces along; others were in league with the insurgents..."

And how in Hell is a good Marine to tell one from the other?

"..."We know what we have to do," said Lance Cpl. Raymond Walker. "But who can tell the good ones from the bad ones? It's tough."

Yes, sir.  And your Commanders have made it even tougher for you.

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/16/u-s-marine-at-battle-of-marja-who-can-tell-the-good-ones-from-the-bad-ones//#pageTitle
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: pamagain on February 17, 2010, 06:42:31 AM

Teresa
1. Obama is just what every OTHER president has been......a FIGURehead. Those " unqualified" to be president senators and representatives are the ones who really make policy in this country. To be quite honest I cannot think of a president since I have been old enough to remember who is or HAS been a "GOOD" president.

2. IMHO Palin goes where the attention is.She no more scares me than Obama or George W did.

3. I am no more a liberal than you are a conservative. we both have common sense, either extreme is seriously lacking in that department.

Gettin in a lather about the president is kinda pointless. You want to fix the government fix CONGRESS...that's where the true enemy is...of any sane freethinkin, moderate, gun carryin, family lovin, country lovin American...which is exactly what I am at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: jarhead on February 17, 2010, 08:59:48 AM
Well I guess I aint got no common sense nor am I a "free thinker". I think this Big Zero is more that a Figure Head but what do I know. I just thought the way he issued executive orders and such to shove his radical agenda down our throat that he was calling the shots---not to mention the Commie / radical loons he appoints as Czars, that answer to no one but him. Must of missed where Congress issued the Rules of Engagement. I just thought maybe Obama might have whispered them in Gen McChrystal's ear, along with the threat of being releived of his command if he didn't do what the Dictator told him. OK, I don't think he told Gen. McChrystal anything because he doesn't have the balls to talk to a military person. Instead he sent his worm, Gen.  Jones, to do his dirty work.
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: redcliffsw on February 17, 2010, 11:13:34 AM

Jarhead, you're making a lot of sense - stay right in there.

Meanwhile, about Palin:
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/002985.html




Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: jarhead on February 17, 2010, 11:26:40 AM
No Red, I better quit before I get told to "bite me" or "shove it". I'll put my smiley face back on and be a good lad.
Gotta remember Palin is a politition too but anything, and I mean anything, has to be better than what we have at the helm today. This pains me to say but Yellow Belly Jimmie Carter is starting to even look good.
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: pamagain on February 17, 2010, 11:30:25 AM
jarhead....when it comes to war there ARE no RULES....war is not a civilized enterprise. Do what it takes to get it done the quickest and get it over with. THAT is my position. Civilians get killed.....if you are going to fight a war.

I don't know how many times I have to say this but I will say it REAL slow.........I......Have.......No......Use.....For......Government.....I......Have......No.......Use..... For.......Politicians..........I......Have.... No.....Use....For......Obama........I....Had....No....Use....For......W.........I.......Did......Not.....VOTE........For Obama..........OR.....W.

He can't do ANYthing that can't be reversed.............period. Goons or not.

Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: redcliffsw on February 17, 2010, 11:35:31 AM
Yes Sir!  I know what you're saying about Carter - and it's difficult to accept for sure.

By the way, I'm sure meeting a lot of former Democrats these days and even some former
Republicans, all now being neither of the other.  Last nite, a former Democrat was telling me
that he's for Palin as an independent but I'm not going that far.
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: jarhead on February 17, 2010, 12:21:08 PM
Palin running as a Tea Bagger or Independant will insure The Messiah another 4 years in office. Hell, even I voted for Draft Dodging Bill the first time by voting for Perot.
Pam I read you loud & clear but bankrupting the country might not be reversed. How many new taxes have you ever heard of being reversed after those crooks get their grubby little diggers on the cash ? Now before some lib tells me Obama & co. have not raised taxes you better check the price of cigarettes before he took office vs a month later---and it damn sure aint because they are useing primo tobacco in these cheaper brand cancer sticks.
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: frawin on February 17, 2010, 12:53:56 PM
Jarhead, as usual I agree with you on politics. I just got the Bartlesville paper and in the "Off the Cuff section" someone agreed with you as well. They wrote in:
"This is the lieingest President that has ever been in the White House. First he lied 10 times about putting health care on C-Span. Now he is agnostic on tax hikes for the middle class. What would happen if 200 Million people refused to pay their taxes. Are they going to put 200 Million people in jail? It is time for a revolution before this moron bankrupts us all."

Although it seems to me if you are a Democrat and in the Goverment you don't have to pay your taxes. Further it seems that everyone Obama appointed had unpaid back taxes, and they didn't go to jail, instead they got a position in the Obama cabinet or administration.
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: jarhead on February 17, 2010, 04:01:35 PM
OK Frank here's the plan---we quit paying taxes---then I will pilot the Marine one chopper---and you can pilot the Air Force one. One of us to be a team player and "take one for the gipper"----------------------------and seeing as how you are  much older  than me-------------Well sir, we are gonna miss you !!!! (I'm joking people---don't be sending the Gastapo after me )
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Diane Amberg on February 17, 2010, 08:00:22 PM
Jar ,the term tea bagger is very crude and rude, in case you didn't know.  :-\
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: jarhead on February 17, 2010, 08:07:05 PM
Why hell Lady Di.  JUST  being called rude and crude is one of the nicest things I been called in a long time. I thank you for the kind words.
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Diane Amberg on February 17, 2010, 08:13:09 PM
I did not call you rude and crude, I said the term is! Kind of like little kids practicing cuss words to see what adults' reactions would be. We don't talk that way here. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: jarhead on February 17, 2010, 09:16:31 PM
Why hell Lady Di. I talk like a drunken sailor but you got to if you want to communicate with Teresa !!!
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Teresa on February 17, 2010, 10:54:50 PM
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Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Diane Amberg on February 18, 2010, 01:49:34 PM
Teresa, I think he got ya that time.
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Teresa on February 18, 2010, 03:04:11 PM
Well like I say.. there is a time and a place to do and say many things... you have to be smart enough to  know when and where you can do them..  :)
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Varmit on February 19, 2010, 09:53:53 AM
I like Palin, think she would make a good President and would vote for her.  Although it would be hard for me to do so given the fact she is a woman.  Guess I am just old fashioned that way. 

BTW, for those that don't think she would make a good president...why not?
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: jarhead on February 19, 2010, 09:57:26 PM
Billy,
I think you're in for a long wait for an answer to your question. Just like I'm still waiting to hear why a member thinks she scored alot higher than Palin would on a history test. The cat seems to have gotten people tongues !!
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Teresa on February 19, 2010, 10:19:12 PM
I'd like to see Newt run with Palin as his VP..
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: redcliffsw on February 20, 2010, 07:56:31 AM

You must be kidding?  Newt and Palin? 

Newt is very much like the rest of 'em.

This pair is definitely Republican which says much
about them.

 
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Diane Amberg on February 20, 2010, 10:09:52 AM
Jar,did you mean me? Unless Sarah got a perfect score I likely did score higher than she would. I wasn't gloating, I was just curious as to how she would do.
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: sixdogsmom on February 20, 2010, 12:27:55 PM
Diane, I think he was speaking about me. In that thread I said he was kind to think that Palin would score twenty, and I have replied. That comment did not show up in my unread list somehow, maybe a cat ate it?  :D
Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Warph on February 20, 2010, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: Varmit on February 19, 2010, 09:53:53 AM
I like Palin, think she would make a good President and would vote for her.  Although it would be hard for me to do so given the fact she is a woman.  Guess I am just old fashioned that way. 

BTW, for those that don't think she would make a good president...why not?


I'll give you a "maybe".... just, maybe!  "Good" as it relates to the Presidency is a relative term.  Sarah Palin has a rather admirable track record as Alaskan Governor.  I guess she cleaned house on some Republican corruption as well as making some gutsy moves in the fiscal arena that put some rather healthy contributions into the bank accounts of the residents of Alaska.  Compared to the Community Organizer record of the smooth talking Obama, she, on paper, would appear to be the stronger candidate I would think.

Palin has taken a punch to the mid-section over her resignation from the Governor's Office.  I think that it is at least somewhat deserved.  The American public does not know what was REALLY behind the decision.... unless she was tired of the ethic charges she was fighting..... still no reason to cut and run, letting down the people of Alaska.  I just wished she would have run for the Senate when she had a chance to get at least six years of... shall we call it SEASONING (which she needs very badly).... under her belt before thinking of running for a higher office.  But, alas, she didn't so again we have a comparison to Obama, who won election to the Senate from Illinois and announced his candidacy for President before he located his office in the Senate Office Building.  So neither of them completed the term of office to which the people of their respective state had elected them.  Of the two, Palin served longer and accomplished much more as Governor than Obama did as Senator.  Opponents argued during the campaign that Sarah Palin had no experience in international dealings.  Obama's history of foreign relations was limited to the multi-cultural neighborhoods he dealt with as a Community Organizer.  Had Palin been elected Vice-President, I seriously doubt she would have been so enamored with foreign royalty as to bow to the Saudi King or a Chinese dictator.  If Miss Sarah were our President, her patriotism and respect for our flag would never be questioned.

Since we can only judge by what she has demonstrated in the past, based upon her fiscal dealings in Alaska, I find reason to believe that she as President would not have tripled in one year what the free-spending George W. Bush ran up in national debt over eight years.

So I guess you can put me down for a "MAYBE" vote.  Compared to what we have and even compared to what we have had in the twenty years of Bush, Clinton, and Bush, Sarah Palin would probably be a "good"... strike that... lets make that a "fair" President.

Is she perfect?  Absolutely not!

Would she make mistakes?  In her words, "You betcha!"

Would she go on an Apology Tour?  Yeah, beginning the day after Hell freezes! ....Warph


Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: Warph on February 21, 2010, 11:39:33 AM


Republican leaders were treated well enough by attendees at CPAC.  They clapped in all the right places.  They cheered lustily at every Obama put down.  They dutifully applauded at the 100,000th mention at the conference that the GOP had learned its lesson and were now born again fiscal conservatives.  Then attendees went ahead and gave Ron Paul a victory in the presidential straw poll.  Go figure.  Palin got 7% of the vote.


Title: Re: Is Palin Fit for the Presidency?
Post by: jarhead on February 21, 2010, 12:00:07 PM
WARPH, Alot of things I like about Ron Paul but unless he has changed his views on Israel, I will never vote for him, or unless my ignorant arse didn't fully understand his stance concering Israel. Aint Paul pretty much an (any )anti-war person ? If so just how in hell is my beloved Marines gonna be awarded the coveted Purple Heart medal. can't get that puppy sitting around doing nothing stateside  !!! :)