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Title: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: W. Gray on January 22, 2010, 12:14:09 PM
The passenger portion of this depot wound up as part of a family residence in Dexter, Kansas.

The freight portion was supposed to have wound up somewhere along the length of the rail line that runs through the county, maybe for use as a storage area.


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Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Marcia Moore on January 22, 2010, 03:22:59 PM
     Thanks, Waldo.  Enjoy your items.  Here is a photo of the Moline depot sign, from the Howard Branch of the Santa Fe, that I purchased recently.  I already had the Severy depot sign from that same branch.  
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: W. Gray on January 22, 2010, 03:59:59 PM
Here is a photo of the Severy station that was owned by the Frisco but used by both the Frisco and the Santa Fe. The photo comes from the Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling web site.

Most folks may have heard of something called a Union Station connected with railroading.  And, some seem to believe that all train stations were called Union Station, however, that is not the case.

When there were many (and I mean many) railroads, they would sign a cooperative agreement in a specific city and jointly build and maintain a station that all used. Each railroad would then have to reroute their tracks to the Union Station. Many of these were huge imposing architectural wonders.

This arrangement, though, saved passengers a good deal of heartburn. Otherwise, passengers would have to get off at one RR company's station on one side of town and then have to travel cross town to another RR company's station in order to switch trains.

The Union Station concept usually only worked satisfactorily in the largest towns.

Severy may have qualified to have the smallest Union Station in the US(?)


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Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 22, 2010, 04:36:28 PM
Gee, this brings back some memories!  I used to ride the train from Wichita to Severy sometimes when I was going to school in Wichita.  I left Wichita late afternoon and got to Severy early evening.  Unfortunately, it didn't return on a schedule that I could ride it back to Wichita, so I sometimes caught a ride with a friend, or my parents took me back on Monday morning, or Sunday evening. 

My uncle worked for the Frisco railroad and was transferred in and out of Severy several times.  They also lived in Leon, Fall River, Cherokee, and Kansas City to name a few of the places I remember they were sent.

One time om tje 70's, we were in Moline and our boys were small.  Monte Edwards was the engineer on the train and he let our boys get up in the engine while it was idling on  a side track.  They thought that was a lot of fun.  They still talk about it sometimes!

Myrna
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 22, 2010, 05:31:39 PM
Have to correct you Frank. Monte, my Dad was not an engineer. Conductor / brakeman / switchman but never a Fireman or engineer. i need to ask some of my older sisters who some of the old Howard Branch engineers were. One of my earliest recollections of an engineer was Charlie Shaffer and that was maybe mid to later 50's and on a Moline to Pawhuska, Ok run. I'm thinking Charlie was from Moline and also an engineer on the Howard Branch some of the time. Ernie Condon from Elk Falls was on the Howard branch alot of the time and was usually the conductor. Bobbie Jones from Moline was a regular on the Howard Branch until the mid 60's
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 22, 2010, 05:36:14 PM
Jarhead, that was Myrna's post. I remember your dad well also Bobbie Jones. In any case my boys really got a big charge out of being up in the locomoitive.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 22, 2010, 05:46:04 PM
Jarhead, I guess I just assumed your dad was an engineer, since he was the one sitting in the engine when we walked down there.  At any rate, the boys really enjoyed it and he pointed out some of the instruments/parts up in the engine.  I knew your dad as he was a customer at the bank in Howard where I worked.  He was really a very nice man.
Myrna
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 22, 2010, 05:59:35 PM
Thank you Myrna. My brother Steve and me used to go on lots of train trips with our dad and loved it. Riding in the wait-car (caboose) was alot more fun to me than the engine. The engine was so high and it almost seemed like it was gonna turn over as it rocked down the track, then when you went over a trestle  it seemed to this young lad like we were going into the river. The old caboose's had those two seats way up high and got a good breeze riding up there. They had an wooden ice box that took ice to keep them cool. A big water jug of cold water and you used those paper cups like a snow cone came in. One drink and you waded that cup up and chucked it out the rear onto the tracks. Didn't really think about littering. We would stand on the rear of the caboose and look down at the ties whizzing by until we got dizzy. I dobt OSHA would allow what we used to do, today. :)
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Marcia Moore on January 22, 2010, 06:26:51 PM
     Trains were running through Severy by December 1879.  There were two railroad companies here – both having their own depots.  The St. Louis & San Francisco Railway ran east and west through town and their depot was located just north and east of the 100 block of Kansas Avenue.  The Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe ran north and south through Severy.  Their depot was located at the east end of Main Street.   
     In March 1881 – after only 15 months with two depots in town – the A.T. & S.F. depot was moved up the track by the side of the St. Louis & San Francisco Railway depot where it became a union depot, serving both railroad companies.  Two months later the Frisco depot was torn down.   
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: W. Gray on January 22, 2010, 06:30:03 PM
Here is a cut and paste from one of my posts almost four years ago: 

In 1946 a freight train pulled by a steam engine, just coming from Fiat and Howard had passed through Severy and was approaching K-96. A driver barreling down K-96 was traveling at a high rate of speed and apparently did not hear or see the steam engine. The fast moving automobile slammed into a boxcar behind the tender. The impact derailed the boxcar and the momentum of the boxcar took the rest of the train's twelve cars off the track. Only the engine and tender stayed put. The crash killed all three people in the car.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 22, 2010, 06:43:39 PM
Waldo,
I suppose it was a mile or so south of Howard there was a county road that went west off of 99 highway. The road went across the Howard Branch line right as the gravel road went west. at the crossing there was a sign that had a cross on it that meant someone was killed at the crossing. seems like there was more than one of these signs there. That was back in the 60's. You have any idea who was killed there---and when ?
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: W. Gray on January 22, 2010, 07:19:46 PM
No, I sure don't.

The Elk County history book has a section on transportation but they do not mention any railroad accident deaths.

I checked The Iron Horse & I, written by the Climax Switch Master (James Burke) and the only problem he mentions on the Howard Branch was the wipe out on K-96. By the way, the automobile carrying the three passengers was a 1937 Ford Coupe and the locomotive number was 1019.

Come to think of it, the Climax Switch Master was long gone from the Howard Branch by the 1960s.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: W. Gray on January 22, 2010, 07:34:17 PM
I would like to add to Marcia's comment that Howard (and maybe even Amy/Busby) tried to get the St Louis and San Francisco RR to come through, but Severy won out. The surveyors probably had as much to do with it as Frisco management.

As near as I can determine, the line would have headed west out of Howard to Western Park before heading back up into Greenwood or Butler County.

Somewhere in the history book, it says that Howard wanted the Frisco so that the town could boast of being a "transportation center."

Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 22, 2010, 07:40:20 PM
The first gravel road a mile south of Howard that went West across tracks was the road to the Guy V. Denton home. I crossed that everyday in the Winter and most days in the summer in the early 60s as I worked for the Denton Ranch. The next road that goes west is 2 miles South of town and you cross the tracks there just after you leave the highway, I am pretty sure there wasn't any train auto collisions there either. At the last crossing, I picked up 2 of Moline's prominent citizens about midnight one night, I was taking my Molinhe date home . They had driven there vehicle down the track from Howard and got that far and got straddle of the rails and couldn't move. They were pretty loaded with Jack Daniels or one of his cousins. I took them on to Moline and one of their wives ate me out for getting her husband drunk. The other one wasn't married and I had to help in find someone to go back and get the car off the tracks. I don't recall any train auto collisions around Howard in my day .
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: W. Gray on January 22, 2010, 08:04:59 PM
One other item of note: the speed limit of trains on the Howard Branch was 30 m.p.h. in 1948 and I doubt if that improved any until abandonment in 1975.

Howard had train service but it was not a mainline with fast trains and there was only one milk train each way each day except Sunday.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Marcia Moore on January 22, 2010, 08:16:26 PM
     On Nov. 12, 1928, the automobile in which George L. Shoemaker and Fred B. Jordan were riding was struck by a Santa Fe extra train at the railroad crossing on Highway No. 11, just north of Howard.  Shoemaker and Jordan were on their way to Howard to transact some business matters.  On account of the poor view of the approaching train, they did not see it in time to stop the car.  The motor car was struck by the engine just behind the front wheels.  Both men were thrown from the car into the cattle guard, and apparently the heads of both men struck the cattle guard.  They were taken in an ambulance to Howard, but Shoemaker died before reaching Howard, and Jordan died a few minutes after arriving at the doctor's office.  Both Shoemaker and Jordan were prominent men in Severy and had been friends all their lives, so a joint funeral service was held for them. 
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 22, 2010, 08:22:26 PM
Marcia, very interesting, I assume that had to be the crossing just 1/2 mile north of Howard.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 22, 2010, 08:35:20 PM
Please don't tell me I'm off my rocker about a fatality from train / car south of Howard !! I wrote 3 of my sisters but no response back yet but if they get a chance to make me look like a dummy they will remain silent. was thinking also a feller named Joe Brown from Elk falls was hit and killed by a train around Moline sometime in the late 50's or did I dream that ? Seems like Joe Brown lived west of the Day Wilkerson place in Elk Falls. also I was working at Moline rock quarry in early 70's. an old timer there named Jack Frost told me a switch engine ran out onto the main line at the quarry and collided with a steam engine and a rail roader was killed but was supposed to have happened long before my time. Any history on that ?
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Marcia Moore on January 22, 2010, 08:42:29 PM
Yes, that was the crossing just 1/2 mile north of Howard.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 22, 2010, 08:51:07 PM
In my day that was all pretty open at that crossing, surprising they would hit a train there.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Marcia Moore on January 22, 2010, 08:55:43 PM
     In April 1895, the Santa Fe accommodation going south was wrecked about six miles south of Severy.  The train consisted of the engine, four box cars and one passenger coach, and was just turning the curve south of Fiat when one of the box cars jumped the track, followed by the three others, the engine and coach remaining on the rails.  A wrecking train came down from Topeka and cleared the track for trains to pass.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Marcia Moore on January 22, 2010, 08:59:43 PM
     Tramps and hoboes were a problem throughout the area - it seemed like Severy always had a plentiful supply.  In January 1905, a tramp called at a north side Severy home and asked for a handout.  The lady of the house gave him a pie and told him when he finished eating it he could saw her a few sticks of wood.  The tramp was seen leaving the backyard shortly after and the woman hailed him.  "See here!  You promised to saw wood for that pie!"  "It's just this way, lady," said the tramp.  "You oughtn't to've gave me the pie first.  I have just ruined the saw trying to cut the pie."
     Hobos traveled to find work, while tramps traveled to avoid it.  Both knew how to correctly ride on, in, and under the cars and how to jump the freight trains.  They shared the same lifestyle, mode of travel and dangers, and because many of them traveled the same routes, they crossed paths with each other often, creating a family bond amongst them.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 22, 2010, 09:08:15 PM
I learn something new every day. I did not know there was a differance betwen a hobo & a tramp. I did call one sister and she says she vageuly remembers the sign/ cross on a RR crossing south of Howard that means someone got killed there. I sure thought there were like 3 of the signs. My sister wasn't sure where it was at except somewhere between Moline and Howard and just west off US 99. My post seemed to have dissappeared off the forum so maybe an old timer like Jo could help me out on this one. :) Or detective Marcia .:)
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 22, 2010, 09:55:36 PM
Aw the plot thickens. An older sister says she also remembers the signs signifying someone was killed at a RR crossing a few miles south of Howard. She thinks the signs were there in the 50's and looked kinda old then. She also thinks Joe Brown was hit and killed by a train and she thinks it was south of  the rock quarry. Now a new enrelated mystery. My sis & me both remember someone sitting fire to their mattress in Howard jail and dieing from smoke inhalation sometime in the late 50's---possibly. I think it was a citizen of Elk Falls. Who was it ?? Or is my whole family crazy as a pet coon and just dream up this nonsense ?? :)
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: greatguns on January 22, 2010, 10:16:29 PM
NO! NO!  I must not answer that question. :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D ;D :angel:
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: W. Gray on January 22, 2010, 10:28:46 PM
The Howard Branch website also says that on January 22, 1949, steam locomotive 2535 was heavily damaged in a wreck at Severy. It was replaced by number 2301 so that locomotives numbered 2301 and 2650 continued the service.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: ddurbin on January 23, 2010, 07:39:02 AM
 Since this thread has digressed somewhat to railroad fatalities in Elk County, I've copied a post from 2006 about the 1908 death of W.H.H. Lamb, one of Moline's "Founding Fathers".  I also remember reading about a fatality involving a non-local young man that happened 2 miles or so west of Moline, near where the Lawrence Wilson family lived.  It happened long before they lived there.
Re: W. H. H. Lamb (Biography)
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2006, 11:51:30 AM »     

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taken from THE MOLINE REVIEW  May 1, 1908
A SERIOUS ACCIDENT
W.H.H. Lamb was run down by the Emporia train Wednesday morning.  He was walking to his work in the east part of town on the branch track and the train was backing out on the main line to the  "Y".  Thinking that the train was on the track on which he was walking, he stepped over on the main track just in time to be struck by the steps on the rear coach.  He was thrown over and his foot was caught by the wheel and badly mashed.  His head was bruised also where it struck the ground.  Drs. Smethers and Beasley amputated the foot, leaving only the heel.  Up to this writing he is doing as well as possible under the circumstances.

same paper May 8, 1908
Obituary
William Henry Harrison Lamb was born in Machias, Cattaurangus county, N. Y. June 4, 1837, where he grew to manhood.  In 1857 he went to Iowa where two years later he was married to Miss Margaret Wickersham at Burr Oak.  He then moved to Hesper, Ia. and lived there until he moved to Carthage, Missouri, in 1866 where his wife died two years later.  In 1871 he was married to Olive Delancy Sutlieff in Texas.  To them were born four children:  H. N. and C. E. of Moline, Carrie M Rice, who died two months after her marriage, and Cora L. Burdick of Independence.  Beside these he leaves two brothers and one sister, M. B. Lamb of Machias, N. Y. and Silas A. Lamb and Mrs. A. Meader of Denver Colo.

Mr. Lamb died May 2, at the home of his son H. N. in this city as the result of an accident described in this paper last week.  The funeral was held Sunday at 2 p.m. conducted by Rev J. R. Hankins in the M. E. church.  Many friends join the family in mourning his sad death.   



Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 23, 2010, 08:05:02 AM
Quote from: jarhead on January 22, 2010, 09:55:36 PM
Aw the plot thickens. An older sister says she also remembers the signs signifying someone was killed at a RR crossing a few miles south of Howard. She thinks the signs were there in the 50's and looked kinda old then. She also thinks Joe Brown was hit and killed by a train and she thinks it was south of  the rock quarry. Now a new enrelated mystery. My sis & me both remember someone sitting fire to their mattress in Howard jail and dieing from smoke inhalation sometime in the late 50's---possibly. I think it was a citizen of Elk Falls. Who was it ?? Or is my whole family crazy as a pet coon and just dream up this nonsense ?? :)
JARHEAD, one person that might be able to shed some light on any car/train accidents, South of Howard,  in the early 60s would be John Layton. John took over as Depot agent in the early 60s, before that was John Aldrich/Aldrige and he has been gone for years.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: redcliffsw on January 23, 2010, 08:28:29 AM

Lamb's name does not appear on the cemetery listing for Moline.
Wonder where he's buried?
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 23, 2010, 08:36:03 AM
Frank, the Moline depot agent that I remember was "Scottie", but his real name is lost in the clutter of my feeble brain. Scottie was there in early 70's and I think until the depot closed. I'm pretty sure he lived in Independence.Is John Layton a local ?
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 23, 2010, 08:56:37 AM
Jarhead, John was the agent at Howard. John still lives at Howard, he was a Hewins KS boy originally.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 23, 2010, 01:37:11 PM
I guess I'm gonna have to eat crow. My oldest living sister said there were signs by a RR crossing meaning someone was killed there but she is pretty sure they were north of Howard---not south. North , south---what's the differance ?? :)She thought it was out near the 'Poor farm".
  Joe Brown from Elk Falls did not get hit by a train and killed. she said he was leaving Gene's Club at 'Hill Top" and pulled in front of another car and was killed. Was Hill Top out by Moline rodeo grounds--one of you old timers ?
   As to most usuall crew on the Howard Branch while my dad was on it was Roy Olsen (engineer) Ernie Condon (conductor) and Monte Edwards ( brakeman ) She said way back when Roscoe Morton was an engineer and Johnnie Morton was a RR'er.
A few other of the regulars were "Beans" Bowman, Willie Aday and Charlie Grigsby. after Howard Branch was closed Grigsby was an engineer on the Chanute/ Winfield train that went thru Longton until Sante Fe sold the line. We always knew when Grigsby was the engineer going thru by the certain way he blew the whistle.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 23, 2010, 01:41:34 PM
Jarhead, the Hilltop was on on the Highway after you passed the Rodeo grounds and angled West towards Moline , it was on the North side of the Highway.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 23, 2010, 02:06:14 PM
I think I faintly remember the Hill Top. wasn't it kinda of a low building with a round window in the front door ? Think there was a circus by it when I was a pup. I remember seeing a camel and thinking it was the ugliest critter I'd ever seen---until I layed eyes on Ol Sarge for the first time. :)
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 23, 2010, 02:38:10 PM
Jarhead, I don't remember a circus there, as I faintly remember the terrain around the Hilltop wouldn't have been very good for a Circus. There was a Nightclb, Dance Hall whatever you want to call it, that was East of the Junction on Highway 160 just East of the Old Harmony School , kind of on the Southend of the Rodeo Grounds, the area behind the Club, it might have been Club 160 would have been a likely spot for a Circus. As I remember, the Dance Hall building was kind of shaped like you described.

We need Charlie Durbin on here.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Ole Granny on January 24, 2010, 10:41:22 PM
Guess this will date me.  I remember going to the Dew Drop Inn (that's what my Dad called it) at Hilltop.   I remember a shuffleboard table.  First one I had every seen and was fascinated with it.  It was not a very fancy place but not much was then.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 25, 2010, 06:49:01 AM
Alice, what was the name of the Dance Hall that was East on 160 from the Hilltop. I went there when I was little with my sister and probably Jeanne Tomlin. It sat empty for years before it was torn down.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Clubine Ranch on January 25, 2010, 03:10:44 PM
As memory serves me: The club east of 160 at the south end of the Rodeo Grounds was called Gene's Club. It was buildt by Gene Mills in the early 1950's. I patronized the club a bit in the late fifties and early sixties.
Hilltop was purchased by my Granddad Elbin Lewis, after the war. His son Wilbur Lewis "Curley" run the hall and had dances for several years. Name bands were Leon McCollough, Hank Thompson, Bob Wills, (know these names are not spelled correctly). Not for sure that was correct but what I was told. They always told me the building was an old World War 1 Army Barracks. There was also a cafe and gas station in front. My Aunt Elnora Lewis Vanderpool ran the cafe for awhile. "Curley"  tore out the dance floor and made a welding shop out of it later on. Granddad sold Hilltop around 1963.  Dale
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 25, 2010, 03:18:22 PM
Thanks Dale, that brings back even more memories. I remember there was a sign on the East Building but I just couldn't remember the name. Of course you are older than me, just kidding. Thanks again. I remember the cafe at Hilltop.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 25, 2010, 04:15:56 PM
So I am confused now. Is Hill Top and Gene's Club two differant buildings ? It must be Gene's Club that I can remember , south of the rodeo grounds. I think it was there is where I remember a circus being back in the 50's. Do you remember that circus Dale---or did I just dream it ? So from the rodeo grounds, where was Hill Top ? I think the new 99/160 junction is throwing me for a loop on "what used to be".
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 25, 2010, 04:22:23 PM
I'm gonna answer my own question. I think I remember the Hilltop. It was about where the 99/160 junction is now wasn't it ? A place near it was called the Glasscock farm and the house burnt down. If so I still have a 2 inch pipe frame for hanging a porch swing that my Dad had made there. For some reason I've always thought that Howard Suiter(sp) was the man who welded it though.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Jo McDonald on January 25, 2010, 04:53:41 PM
Wasn't HillTop on the EAST side of 99 and 160?  I went there one Saturday night with my cousins, who were home from the Army,  my brother and four or five others (2 cars) and got into a heap of trouble.  My Dad pitched a fit -- I was supposed to stay all night at my Uncle Roy and Aunt Clara w/my cousins girlfriend from western Kansas. When we took my brother Jack home, Dad made me get out of the car and stay home.  I was grounded BIG TIME  I bawled for a week and am STILL mad after all these 63 years.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 25, 2010, 04:58:45 PM
Jo, to me it was on the North side, the highway in front run West to Southwest towards Moline.
Dale, can you add your opinion. I think Earl and Molly McGlasson lived on the South side across from the Hilltop.
Jo, I think you are thinking of Gene's Club which was East of 99 and faced the South on 160.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Ole Granny on January 26, 2010, 03:10:17 AM
Yes. Do believe Glasscock's lived south across the highway from Hiltop when it was open. Not sure if Molly and Slim lived in the area at that time. Dale, was the cafe ever called Do or Dew Drop Inn? That just sticks in my mind.  Jarhead, I remember one circus being in the south part of Moline south of the railroad track in the open area.  The problem with everyone's memory of the landscape is the hill has shrunk.  Changed the whole area when they tore out the Half Moon bridge and re-did the highway.  Progress is what they call it but I sure miss that dangerous curve.  It did add a rustic beauty to the drive.  I even miss the old road from Severy to Beaumont.  Scary, aren't I.

Believe Gene's Club has been discussed before.  Now I am trying to remember the name of group that played there frequently.  I remember Bobby Wylie playing steel, George Hays sang and played guitar.  Joe "    "  was the name of the group.  Help.....
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Clubine Ranch on January 26, 2010, 06:25:42 AM
Old Hill Top was where they made the cut for the new road, which would be 160 now. Alice, I do not remember the cafe being called Dew Drop In or Dew, but there was a Dew Drop In in Moline on the east side of the street about where the New Beginnings Workshop is now. I do not remember Slim or Mollie living across from Hill Top. Roy and Thelma Glasscock lived on one side of the hyway and Joe Glasscock (Roy's dad) lived across the road.
Back to Gene's Club. When I was running around there, Dale and Thelma Wolverton ran it for awhile.
We bought Dale and Thelma's farm and it was always interesting to hear their stories of them running Gene's Club.
All good memeories. Dale
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Clubine Ranch on January 26, 2010, 06:36:44 AM
Forgot to mention the Circus. I think there might have been a fairly small circus at Hill Top. I did not go. There was a couple held at the old rodeo grounds. There was two or three held south of Moline at the old Track and practice Football field. West of the city water plant now. South of where Slim and Mollie McGlasson lived.  :) Just wanted to make you think a little deeper :). Dale
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: frawin on January 26, 2010, 07:35:53 AM
Thanks Dale and Alice for helping this old man remember. I went by the Hilltop almost everyday and many times twice a day for 2-3 years dating girls in Moline, I guess I was thinking of other things besides the Hilltop in those days. Often times I have wished I had taken pictures of buildings and other things so I would have them today. I remember my sister and her husband having a grocery store on mainstreet of Moline but I can't remember anything about it. I do remember it was just South of the Merc when it burned, or I think that is where it was.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Jo McDonald on January 26, 2010, 09:03:35 AM
My description of " east side of 99"  is where the top of the hill,  what is left of it is now.  When I went it was in 1946 --- so maybe the memory hinges are a bit rusty.  lol
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Roma Jean Turner on January 26, 2010, 04:40:17 PM
When I was a little girl, we lived across the road from the Glasscocks.  I remember their pet quaile, called Qualie.  Whenever my mother and I came back for a visit, we would go visit the Glasscocks.  They were so kind and helpful to her, a young wife and mother.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Marcia Moore on January 26, 2010, 07:22:28 PM
     Here is a photo of the washed-out Santa Fe Railroad bridge near Moline on Wild Cat Creek.  The photo is on a postcard postmarked Aug. 4, 1911, and the back of the card reads, "This is a picture of Wild Cat the morning after the flood.  The stone bridge was where the iron approach of RR bridge is seen to right in foreground.  Washed a lot of shale out of creek bed besides scattering the stone bridge all over the nearby alfalfa field. 
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Ole Granny on January 27, 2010, 12:38:25 AM
Frank, You have the location of Shorty's Grocery Store correct.  That's what we always called it.  Those buildings all looked about the same in the day.  It was close to the pool hall that was on the west side of Main Street, or could have been the pool hall.  I remember the inside of the store very well.  Remember being treated with Red Hots out of a Round Jar. 

Roma Jean,  The Glasscock's were good people.  My dad was very fond of them.  When you mentioned living near them that brought back memories.

Thanks Dale.  The circus near McGlassons is the one I remember.  Remember my brother getting sprayed by an elephant right in the face.  I felt so sorry for him.  But was sure glad it was not me. 
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: Janet Harrington on January 27, 2010, 01:36:47 AM
Quote from: jarhead on January 22, 2010, 09:55:36 PM
Aw the plot thickens. An older sister says she also remembers the signs signifying someone was killed at a RR crossing a few miles south of Howard. She thinks the signs were there in the 50's and looked kinda old then. She also thinks Joe Brown was hit and killed by a train and she thinks it was south of  the rock quarry. Now a new enrelated mystery. My sis & me both remember someone sitting fire to their mattress in Howard jail and dieing from smoke inhalation sometime in the late 50's---possibly. I think it was a citizen of Elk Falls. Who was it ?? Or is my whole family crazy as a pet coon and just dream up this nonsense ?? :)

Jarhead, there have only been two people that have died in the Elk County Jail.  One hung himself after being arrested for forgery and this was when the jail was a two story building that sat where the current jail sits, maybe a little to the south.  If I was at home, I could give you the entire news article.  This man was from Wilson County and was arrested after committing forgery at the 1st National Bank of Howard.  Glen Miller remembers this happening as he was a young officer at the bank at the time.  I really can't remember who the sheriff was, but I believe it was Sheriff Carter, Mary Hope Wiseman's father.  The other one that died was Brent Baty, who, as we all know, hung himself in the current jail under the current administration.

Now for the mattress burning incident, I think that was a Vestal, maybe someone called Jr.  Anyway, he and some others thought they would set the mattress on fire because Sheriff Ford was on vacation and Marvis Gaddie and Trooper Jim Gaddie were staying at the apartment at the sheriff's office.  These guys thought they would scare Marvis and get her to let them out and they would escape. However; Marvis was not able to smell anything, so these guuys were choking from the smoke before Trooper Gaddie arrived and found out what they had done.  I don't think anyone went to the hospital or anything, but it was an escape plan that didn't work.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jpbill on January 28, 2010, 11:08:15 PM
Ooops, hit the wrong button.  Anyway, when Shorty's Grocery was just south of the Moline Mercantile, "five stores in one",  the pool hall owned by Pete Peterson then Poor Ole George Bailey, was on the east side of Main street about where the Post Office is today.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: jarhead on January 29, 2010, 10:11:38 AM
Janet,
Ha !!!! That sounds like something Junior Vestal would do but don't think he could get away very fast in a 'prison break' as he had two wooden legs---or I should say plastic,or what ever fake limbs are made of. That incident was probably the mid 70's and the one I was referring too was in the 50"s. It's quite possible it was a "myth" told to this young lad, but also could have happened in a city jail, instead of county  lock-up, because I think back then most towns still had a jail. I remember a couple of high school classmates back in mid 60's that served time in Longton jail. If you got with-in yelling distance it always cost you smokes and a promise to repay you when they got out of the slammer if you would go to the cafe and get them a cheese burger and a malt. Cleo Vestal,the city marshall ,still throwed "rowdy customers" in Longton jail,overnight, clean up into the early 70's.
Title: Re: Moline Railroad Depot
Post by: ddurbin on February 01, 2010, 12:58:43 PM
On Jan 23 in this thread, I mentioned a train fatality that occured west of Moline.  Here is the news article on that from THE MOLINE ADVANCE, dated Nov. 12, 1914
Struck by Train   Fatally Injured
Deaf Stranger Gave His Name As A. T. Carson
Accident Two Miles West of Town Sunday---Lived Till Tuesday

Sunday morning an engine and caboose backing into Moline struck a stranger walking along the track two miles west of town, on the Chas. H. Wilson farm.  The man was deaf and did not hear the train, though every warning was given.  They came upon him while rounding a curve and the man stepped to one side and the train men supposed he was getting off the track, but he only stepped to one side the rail, so that the caboose struck him on the side of the head and back.

He was taken up by the crew and brought into Moline, still conscious, and taken to Dr. Shaffer's Hospital, where it was found that the skull was fractured, his shoulder blade, collar bone and several ribs were broken and severe internal injuries were sustained.

He gave his name as A. T. Carson, said he had no family, and said he had worked on the railroad but was now out of work.  He said he had been deaf six years.

He lingered until Tuesday morning when he succumbed to his injuries, but before he died he gave the address of a brother at Mansford, Oklahoma.  A telegram was sent to this brother and an answer was received that he was on his way here.  Thursday morning, T. H. Carson of Mansford, Oklahoma, arrived accompanied by another brother, S. E. Carson of Okmulgee.  They have made arrangements for the burial of their brother here.

A. T. Carson was 65 years of age and was a single man.  He had worked at railroading and other kinds of labor and had no home of his own.  His brother, T. H. and S. E. Carson have asked the Advance to express their sincere thanks to the people of this community for all the kindness shown their brother since his accident.