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In a move designed to send a message to parents, a Montgomery County, New York, couple were arrested and ticketed for homeschooling their children and failing to register their them with the school district.
News report on couple arrested for home-schooling.
"Richard Cressy, 47, and Margie Cressy, 41, both of the town of Glen, never registered their four children or their home-schooling curriculum with the local school district, said the Sheriff's Office," reports WRGB, a CBS affiliate in Albany, New York. "The Superintendent of the Fonda-Fultonville Central School District confirmed the four children, ranging in age from 8 to 14, had not been registered with the school district for the last seven years."
The couple may lose custody of their children. The case has been turned over to the Montgomery County District Attorney and the Child Protective Unit.
On his radio show today, Alex Jones said the arrest and demand that parents turn their offspring over to the state is like a scene out of Planet of the Apes. In the cult classic, apes hunt humans and intern them in a slave gulag. Police and the CPS are acting like apes on the hunt. Jones pointed out that there is no law in New York criminalizing homeschooling and the arrest was predicated on a color of law regulation.
Local and state governments around the country have moved to criminalize homeschooling and force children to attend dangerous public schools. In 2008 in California, an appeals court ruled that parents do not have a constitutional right to home-school their children.
Germany's mandatory education laws are based on Hitler's 'Reichsculpflicht Gesetz' (federal compulsory attendance laws) which were passed in 1938.
Earlier this year, a German couple asked for asylum in the United States after the German government ruled that homeschooling their children was illegal. Uwe Romeike and his family moved to Tennessee after the state threatened to fine him and take away his children. Romeike, an evangelical Christian, objects to German school textbooks containing language and ideas that conflict with his family's values.
Provisions in the California Education Code require "persons between the ages of six and eighteen" to be in "public full-time day school," or a "private full-time day school" or "instructed by a tutor who holds a valid state teaching credential for the grade being taught." The 2nd Appellate Court in Los Angeles argued that "keeping the children at home deprived them of situations where they could interact with people outside the family." In other words, that court ruled that parents have no right to decide who their children interact with socially and that decision will be left to the state and bureaucrats.
The ruling dramatically affects more than 200,000 homeschooled children in California.
The California educational system is notorious for its pro-homosexual curriculum. Children attending California government schools are taught explicitly to avoid "discriminatory attitudes and practices" toward homosexuals in accordance with state laws that fund revised curriculum and unspecified "tolerance" programs, writes Julie Foster.
In addition to "tolerance" programs, public education emphasizes sex eduction (teaching children how to be promiscuous) and suicide and death education.
A study conducted in 2002 revealed that public schools are infested with drugs. Half of all teens — and 60 percent of high school teens — report that drugs are used, kept, or sold at their schools. Students at these schools are three times more likely to smoke, drink, or use illicit drugs than students whose schools are substance-free, according to the study.
According to officials in New York and California, parents have no right to protect their children from drugs or shelter them from sexual and social brainwashing contrary to their values.
As noted by Michael Farris, chairman and general counsel of the Home School Legal Defense Association, judges around the country are responding to the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC). "In the 2002 case of Beharry v. Reno, one federal court said that even though the convention was never ratified, it still has an impact on American law," Farris explained on the LifeSiteNews website. "The fact that virtually every other nation in the world has adopted it has made it part of customary international law, and it means that it should be considered part of American jurisprudence."
The CRC was adopted by the United Nations in 1989 but not ratified by Congress. If passed, it "would have a negative impact on domestic law and practice in the United States. Article VI of our Constitution makes treaties – and remember, conventions are viewed as treaties – 'the supreme law of the land.' The CRC would be treated as superior to laws in every state regarding the parent-child relationship. This would include issues regarding education, health care, family discipline, the child's role in family decision-making, and a host of other subjects," writes Michael Smith for The Washington Times.
Many believe under Obama the treaty will eventually be signed and legally binding for millions of parents in the United States.
Article 29 of the CRC limits the right of parents and others to educate children by requiring that all such schools support both the charter and principles of the United Nations and a list of specific values and ideals (for instance, the "principle" of world government, the demonstrably bogus climate change agenda, population reduction, in short the entire globalist program).
"Every conceivable sphere of human activity is being analyzed and then planned for so that it will come under the ultimate control of the United Nations. It is becoming a world legislature, world court, world department of education, world welfare agency, world planning center for industry, science and commerce, world finance agency, world police force, and world anything else anyone might want — or might not want," wrote Ezra Taft Benson in An Enemy Hath Done This.
The Copenhagen summit on climate change revealed that the United Nations is a front organization for the global elite and its transparent humanist facade will be done away with after world government is established. The United Nations, by and large, is a debating club for leaders and dictators of impoverished third world nations.
Charlotte Iserbyt, who served as Senior Policy Adviser in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement in the U.S. Department of Education during the Reagan administration, has documented how public education is designed to dumb down children and prepare them for "socialism," that it is to say a world government dictated by an elite who are not "socialist" in the commonly held sense of the word. For the elite, socialism is the perfect control mechanism.
Charlotte Iserbyt describes the role of public education.
As the late Antony C. Sutton noted, socialism is the most inefficient way to run a society ever conceived by man. It has come to the United States only because it is very much in the interest of the global financial elite to obtain total control of society and the world.
"Only a dumbed down population, with no memory of America's roots as a prideful nation, could be expected to willingly succumb to the global workforce training planned by the Carnegie Corporation and the John D. Rockefellers," Iserbyt notes.
Iserbyt cites Rowan Gaither, who wrote that foundations, agencies, especially Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Ford use their "grant-making power to so alter life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union," that is to say a global authoritarian government employing the ruse of socialism to control and manage billions of people.
Millions of people now understand the globalist agenda and are actively removing their children from the brainwashing and social conditioning – in addition to violence and drug addiction – factories known as public schools.
New York and California, operating under the color of law, are attempting in a feeble manner to intimidate home school parents. In order for the CRC and the globalist agenda to work, future generations must be reduced to non-thinking and irrational jellyfish capable of only following orders. The elite are in the process of organizing and formulating a huge planetary Borg Hive. The Endgame is eugenics and a massive culling of the herd. This can only be done if humanity is reduced to a condition of thoughtless slavery.
As Alex Jones said on his radio show today, government is a cult and they want to force you to join. In order to do this, they are turning our children into little Manchurian candidates.
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I suspect they'll get help from the Home School Legal Defense Association. I don't know what the homeschooling laws are in NY, but if they failed to follow state laws then they may have a hard time. Each state has their own laws regarding homeschooling, some more rigid than others. I suspect that Obama and his administration will eventually start working on homeschooling as when he was campaigning he made mention of strengthening the public schools among other things, but refused to comment to HSLDA about his support of homeschooling, so I suspect he's against it and strongly supports the NEA.
I looked it up and the HSLDA has agreed to defend them, but in NY parents are required to fill out an "intent to homeschool" every year and to meet other requirements held by the state. Apparently they failed to do that, so part of the reason they're in trouble is their own fault, but I still don't agree with arresting and threatening to take their kids over it. That's ridiculous. As long as the children are in good health and are being taken care of, I see no reason for such extreme measures.
Assuming what is being said is accurate, it does seem ridiculously extreme. I can't imagine who would benefit.
It's crazy for sure. Americans should not have to tolerate such nonsense and tyrannical control by the socialists.
Then on the other hand, if parents are going to homeschool, they need to make sure they meet state requirements and there may be more to this case then what is being said. Won't know until the full story comes out.
A juvenile judge will ultimately decide what will happen with this family. He will base his decision an all the facts of the case. At least this process is still in effect in our country.
If, as parents, we are going to allow the state to dictate what we teach our children then what is the point of homeschooling? Since when does the state have more authority over our children then we do?
What is ridiculous is that people aren't up in arms over this. The state threatening to take the children away from the parents because they didn't register them with the school district??...give me a break!
Even a judge has no business in this. It is up to the parents how to raise their children, not the state.
Jesus, this country needs a revolution.
The judicial system protects the family from the unwarranted interference of the school system or the child and family services.
Quote from: twirldoggy on January 07, 2010, 08:09:01 PM
The judicial system protects the family from the unwarranted interference of the school system or the child and family services.
No. It doesn't. It enforces laws that restrict or attempt to take away parents rights.
Quote from: Varmit on January 07, 2010, 08:05:42 PM
If, as parents, we are going to allow the state to dictate what we teach our children then what is the point of homeschooling? Since when does the state have more authority over our children then we do?
What is ridiculous is that people aren't up in arms over this. The state threatening to take the children away from the parents because they didn't register them with the school district??...give me a break!
Even a judge has no business in this. It is up to the parents how to raise their children, not the state.
Jesus, this country needs a revolution.
First of all, there may be more to the story then what they're telling.
Secondly, every state has their own laws regarding homeschooling. If you don't want to register, then move to a state with few homeschooling laws. If you choose to live in that state and homeschool, then you're going to have to meet state requirements. Wrong? Probably. But in a way it keeps families from using homeschooling as a cover up for child abuse. There are families that keep their kids at home, don't teach them at all and abuse them and do it all under the guise of "homeschooling". NY has some pretty strict homeschooling laws as do a lot of other states like Ohio. NY does not dictate "what" the parents teach. New Yorkers are quite able to pick their own curriculum, but they do have to file an intent to homeschool each year so the state knows that the kids aren't truant. Too strict? Well I think so, but that's why I'd never move to NY. There are a lot of families that do homeschool in NY.
There are a lot of school superintendents though that do overstep their boundaries and deliberately go out of their way to cause trouble for homeschooling families, but that's what the Home School Legal Defense Association is for. They provide free legal services for homeschooling families. So, it's not like this family is without hope and it may get thrown out without a judge. I would hope they're able to settle it without it going to court as a lot of judges in this country are very corrupt.
BUT can't everyone see though? That things like this, if they are allowed to continue, will be another step closer to having a freedom taken away? Why aren't people up in arms about it? Probably because most homeschooling families that I know are pretty hush hush about what they do, even though it is legal, you run into a lot of problems. It's better if they don't bring awareness to it lest they bring even stricter laws on it.
There is a lot that goes on in the homeschooling area that does not make the news. I know it always brings shock waves when it's publicized, but families are harassed all the time to one degree or another and laws placing more restrictions on it are threatening all the time like in Michigan they've proposed a bill to raise the compulsory school age from 16 to 18. That would mean that a lot of homeschoolers that start college early won't be able to. New Hampshire is getting ready to pass laws making mandatory testing and other regulations be placed on homeschoolers. And that's just a few. It goes on all the time all across the country, it just goes on silently.
Quote from: Sarah on January 08, 2010, 07:35:08 AM
First of all, there may be more to the story then what they're telling.
Secondly, every state has their own laws regarding homeschooling. If you don't want to register, then move to a state with few homeschooling laws. If you choose to live in that state and homeschool, then you're going to have to meet state requirements. Wrong? Probably.
Seems to me that the State should have to meet the requirements of the People, not the other way around. And it is high time the State was made to realize that.
QuoteBut in a way it keeps families from using homeschooling as a cover up for child abuse. There are families that keep their kids at home, don't teach them at all and abuse them and do it all under the guise of "homeschooling".
Sarah, I gotta say that is pretty weak. Its like saying "if we destroy all guns then criminals can't use them to commit crimes". I realize that there are some that are going to abuse the system. But if you want to really to use this argument then you should go after the public school system for child endangerment.
QuoteNew Yorkers are quite able to pick their own curriculum, but they do have to file an intent to homeschool each year so the state knows that the kids aren't truant. Too strict? Well I think so, but that's why I'd never move to NY.
None of the States business.
QuoteThere are a lot of school superintendents though that do overstep their boundaries and deliberately go out of their way to cause trouble for homeschooling families, but that's what the Home School Legal Defense Association is for. They provide free legal services for homeschooling families. So, it's not like this family is without hope and it may get thrown out without a judge. I would hope they're able to settle it without it going to court as a lot of judges in this country are very corrupt.
BUT can't everyone see though? That things like this, if they are allowed to continue, will be another step closer to having a freedom taken away? Why aren't people up in arms about it? Probably because most homeschooling families that I know are pretty hush hush about what they do, even though it is legal, you run into a lot of problems. It's better if they don't bring awareness to it lest they bring even stricter laws on it.
It is not just the homeschoolers that should be up in arms. But every parent and American citizen.
Billy, you're right on this one.
BTW, do we really think the gov't school system is qualified to oversee a real education system?
There's better ways than giving them power that they should never have had in the first place.
Varmit, I don't necessarily disagree with you, BUT, we do live in a country with laws. And why do we live in a country with laws? Because people have lost the ability to govern themselves. When people lose the ability to govern themselves, then the government must step up and govern the people. When people can quit being stupid and start governing themselves, then maybe we wouldn't have to have so many laws. Besides.....................if we don't have laws for homeschooling than how is the NEA supposed to have their share of control over what parents teach? :P
Do I agree with it? NO! Do I think it's going to get better? No! It'll get worse and pretty soon parents will be hard pressed to homeschool their kids at all. BUT it is true that there have been families use homeschooling to cover up abuse. It happens.
My personal opinion is, I don't want any kind of government over sight in ANY thing I do. I take a dim view of the government breathing down my neck about anything and part of the reason is they'll use almost any little tiny excuse to take kids away from parents these days. I'm not a perfect parent. I don't know any parent that is and I'm sure they'd find something I do not to be right. So, no, I despise government. But until people smarten up and say no, then it'll only continue. Power only breeds a lust for more power.