Thank you all for your service.
A big AMEN to that! Thank you! :D
That is a BIG insult to me coming from a whiny crybaby who hasn't the guts to serve his country. You're pathetic!
Was that really necessary? Warph, I'm surprised and disappointed.
Yeah, What she said....
Its interesting to me when someone makes a statement like that. I wonder if they realize that its really just a reflection of their own character. Warph, i didn't think you were a vet, what war did you fight in?
Quote from: Anmar on November 11, 2009, 03:52:46 PM
Its interesting to me when someone makes a statement like that. I wonder if they realize that its really just a reflection of their own character. Warph, i didn't think you were a vet, what war did you fight in?
Just so I'm clear.... Someone who has been deployed to a war is a veteran. Ok, I'll let all those folks who served in Korea and Viet Nam let them know that they didn't server in a declared war, so they aren't veterans. I'll also mention it to the 10s of thousands of former servicemen and women who wore the uniforms of the United States military but weren't 'fortunate' enough to have been sent to war.
As to Warph's original response to Anmar.... Untill one has served, one simply can't wrap their head around what he meant and why he might have said it. Just my not so humble opinion.
From one vet to another, Warph... I thank you.
Patriot, you totally misread my post, but ok.
My grandfather fought in korea, so i was just curious where warph served.
I thought this thread started out as a chance for any and all of us to thank our vets and once again there is bickering? Please, does it have to always have to descend to this? Surely, it wasn't just for vets to thank other vets. I may have to send a few of you to your rooms!
Quote from: Patriot on November 11, 2009, 05:13:33 PM
Just so I'm clear.... Someone who has been deployed to a war is a veteran. Ok, I'll let all those folks who served in Korea and Viet Nam let them know that they didn't server in a declared war, so they aren't veterans. I'll also mention it to the 10s of thousands of former servicemen and women who wore the uniforms of the United States military but weren't 'fortunate' enough to have been sent to war.
As to Warph's original response to Anmar.... Untill one has served, one simply can't wrap their head around what he meant and why he might have said it. Just my not so humble opinion.
From one vet to another, Warph... I thank you.
A "Gunfighters" salute to you from a former vet of the 366th TAC Wing. I thank you too for your service, Patriot. Everyday is a Veterans Day to the men that served this great country.
I am with you on this one Dianne. Just don't know the pain of serving in a war is like, but have many friends that have been to Iraq and acros the seas to protect this country. Now we are agrueing over who or who is not a veteran. Now, I think any person strong enough to join one of armed services deserves a salute! They protect are country!!
Just to keep things straight----------A Veteran is someone who puts on a uniform issued to them by the government of the United States of America. A Veteran is someone who gives up their personal life to serve the government of the United States of America. A Veteran is someone who takes an oath to protect the government of the United States of America.
I don't care if the war is declared. That is a political "football" and doesn't mean squat to anyone who puts on that uniform. If the government sends someone to another country to protects its interests by shooting at other people, that person is a Veteran. If the government sends someone to stand and guard a garbage dump in the Mojave desert, that person is a Veteran.
From: 7th Bat, 5th Arty, 6th Bat, 21st Arty and United States Army Medical Corp.
Larryj
Quote from: larryJ on November 12, 2009, 01:06:17 PM
Just to keep things straight----------A Veteran is someone who puts on a uniform issued to them by the government of the United States of America. A Veteran is someone who gives up their personal life to serve the government of the United States of America. A Veteran is someone who takes an oath to protect the government of the United States of America.
Larryj
Lest I was mis-understood.... What Larry says is absolutely correct. With one note of correction: The oath is NOT to protect the government of the USA... it is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against enemies both foreign and domestic. Not a minor difference, imo.
Youi are correct and I was kinda on the same page in saying that I would obey the orders of the President of the United States, read government. See paste below.
STATUTE-
(a) Enlistment Oath. - Each person enlisting in an armed force
shall take the following oath:
"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will
support and defend the Constitution of the United States against
all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith
and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of
the President of the United States and the orders of the officers
appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code
of Military Justice. So help me God."
Larryj
Quote from: larryJ on November 13, 2009, 12:25:56 PM
Youi are correct and I was kinda on the same page in saying that I would obey the orders of the President of the United States, read government. See paste below.
STATUTE-
(a) Enlistment Oath. - Each person enlisting in an armed force
shall take the following oath:
"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will
support and defend the Constitution of the United States against
all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith
and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of
the President of the United States and the orders of the officers
appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code
of Military Justice. So help me God."
Larryj
The really scary thing today stems from, 'according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice." Neither regulations nor the UCMJ require (nay, they prohibit) obeying any unlawful order! How many today can or will evaluate their orders before blindly executing them? All the more reason to keep the 2nd Amendment intact and enforced.
From AOL news today. This guy deserves all the respect we can give.
War Hero Can Keep His FlagpoleAP
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Col. Van T. Barfoot raises the flag Dec. 2 at his home near Richmond, Va.
RICHMOND, Va. (Dec. 9) -- A 90-year-old Medal of Honor winner can keep his 21-foot flagpole in his front yard after a homeowners association dropped its request to remove it, a spokesman for Democratic Virginia Sen. Mark Warner said Tuesday.
The Sussex Square homeowners association likewise has agreed to drop threats to take legal action against retired Army Col. Van T. Barfoot, Warner spokesman Kevin Hall said.
The association had threatened to take Barfoot to court if he failed to remove the pole from his suburban Richmond home by Friday. It had said the pole violated the neighborhood's aesthetic guidelines.
Neither Barfoot's daughter, Margaret Nicholls, nor homeowners association president Glenn Wilson has returned telephone messages.
Dropping the issue effectively ends a request that White House press secretary Robert Gibbs on Monday called "silly."
Warner and Sen. Jim Webb, both Virginia Democrats, had rallied behind Barfoot, a World War II veteran.
God Bless America------
Larryj