On October 14, Lord Christopher Monckton gave a presentation in St. Paul, MN on the subject of global warming. In this 4-minute excerpt from his speech, he issues a dire warning to all Americans regarding the United Nations Climate Change Treaty that is scheduled to be signed in Copenhagen in December 2009.
Lord Monckton served as a policy adviser to Margaret Thatcher. He has repeatedly challenged Al Gore to a debate to which Gore has refused. Monckton sued to stop Gore's film "An Inconvenient Truth" from being shown in British schools due to its inaccuracies. The judge found in-favor of Monckton, ordering 9 serious errors in the film to be corrected. Lord Monckton travels internationally in an attempt to educating the public about the myth of global warming.
This Brit Viscount, Lord wanna-be doesn't know what he's talking about.
Didn't we already give away our sovereignty when we signed the Kyoto Protocols?
Or was it when we agreed to the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT)?
Or was it when we agreed to NAFTA?
No, I think it was earlier than that.
Maybe it was when we signed on with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).
Or was it when we joined the United Nations?
I just can't remember. :-\
Maybe Glenn Beck can ask the Viscount the next time he's invited back. :P ::)
My response from last week:
QuoteThis Brit Viscount, Lord wanna-be doesn't know what he's talking about.
Didn't we already give away our sovereignty when we signed the Kyoto Protocols?
Or was it when we agreed to the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT)?
Or was it when we agreed to NAFTA?
No, I think it was earlier than that.
Maybe it was when we signed on with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).
Or was it when we joined the United Nations?
I just can't remember.
Maybe Glenn Beck can ask the Viscount the next time he's invited back.
A different kind of indoctrination? I think I'll come up with a third view and take my show on the road. I am a very good speaker and I'll bet I could make people listen. ;D
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 28, 2009, 02:22:33 PM
A different kind of indoctrination? I think I'll come up with a third view and take my show on the road. I am a very good speaker and I'll bet I could make people listen. ;D
Hmm....well, seeing as global warming is at the very least nothing but a hypothesis but is still taught in the schools as fact, uhm, yeah, that would be indoctrination. They have no hard proof as the earth has cycled many times.
I totally agree!
Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 02:13:29 PM
My response from last week:
QuoteThis Brit Viscount, Lord wanna-be doesn't know what he's talking about.
Didn't we already give away our sovereignty when we signed the Kyoto Protocols?
We never signed the kyoto protocols ;) Thank God Bush did that right!
QuoteOr was it when we joined the United Nations?
Well we haven't gotten into bed with them completely yet.
I think Obama will probably sign it as he's stated many times that instead of being an independent nation, standing on our own, we need to be more of a member in the "global community". So, this "one world government" that you hear tossed around, it wouldn't surprise me if Obama gave us over as he doesn't act like he has any particular loyalty to America as a nation.
Quote from: srkruzich on October 28, 2009, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 02:13:29 PM
My response from last week:
QuoteThis Brit Viscount, Lord wanna-be doesn't know what he's talking about.
Didn't we already give away our sovereignty when we signed the Kyoto Protocols?
We never signed the kyoto protocols ;) Thank God Bush did that right!
QuoteOr was it when we joined the United Nations?
Well we haven't gotten into bed with them completely yet.
Didn't they just have a "global warming" conference or something like that?
Quote from: srkruzich on October 28, 2009, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 02:13:29 PM
My response from last week:
QuoteThis Brit Viscount, Lord wanna-be doesn't know what he's talking about.
Didn't we already give away our sovereignty when we signed the Kyoto Protocols?
We never signed the kyoto protocols ;)
Sorry, my bad. The Kyoto Protocols were an update written by the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, which the U. S. is a signatory of.
My point was every time the POTUS is about to sign, or the Senate is about to ratify an international treaty, people come out of the woodwork screaming at the top of their lungs that we are handing over our sovereignty by doing so, and that some One World Order is either behind it, or will be created by signing.
How many treaties has the United States entered into in its history? Aren't we still here?
Charles
Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 03:38:50 PM
Quote from: srkruzich on October 28, 2009, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 02:13:29 PM
My response from last week:
QuoteThis Brit Viscount, Lord wanna-be doesn't know what he's talking about.
Didn't we already give away our sovereignty when we signed the Kyoto Protocols?
We never signed the kyoto protocols ;)
Sorry, my bad. The Kyoto Protocols were an update written by the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, which the U. S. is a signatory of.
My point was every time the POTUS is about to sign, or the Senate is about to ratify an international treaty, people come out of the woodwork screaming at the top of their lungs that we are handing over our sovereignty by doing so, and that some One World Order is either behind it, or will be created by signing.
How many treaties has the United States entered into in its history? Aren't we still here?
Charles
Too many treaties. We're still here by the Grace of God and the voice of the people who resist these collaberations.
There will be a one world government one day. But we do not have to rush it in on a silver platter.
We should embrace individuality, very limited government, we should not as a nation just jump onto the world bandwagon. Europe is already a total disaster why should we jump into bed with them and hasten the demise of our country.
Steve, has the United States of America done anything right since 1861?
Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 03:56:11 PM
Steve, has the United States of America done anything right since 1861?
They will if they get Obama out of office! ROTFL
J/K
Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 03:56:11 PM
Steve, has the United States of America done anything right since 1861?
Yeah they voted reagan into office in 1980
Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 03:56:11 PM
Steve, has the United States of America done anything right since 1861?
You know what folks don't seem to get it. All these treaties, and government nanny state is going to destroy us. Right now everyones got this mentality oh we need to stop global warming. Tax the people more lets stop it. We need to Fix healthcare. Tax the people and businessse more to fix it. Tax the people more so we can bail out banks, tax the people more so we can bail out wallstreet, the automobile companies. I have seen 70% taxation in the 70's. It wasn't a pretty sight. Jobs were scarce, people didn't have a whole heck of what they needed much less what they wanted.
All i am saying is i'm not the damn golden goose so let government get back to its proper constitutional function and give the people here a break.
OK, my question was too general.
Has the Federal Government of the democratic republic of the United States of America done anything right since 1861?
Steve,
Which Constitution?
As it was written and signed on the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven?
As it was admended and presented to the states by Congress on the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine?
As it is now?
Somewhere in between?
Do all the admendments count, or only some of them?
Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 05:11:08 PM
OK, my question was too general.
Has the Federal Government of the democratic republic of the United States of America done anything right since 1861?
Quite a few things they have done right, but it has been on a downward spiral since lincoln's war of agression.
Since then Government has done nothing but try to water down the constitution, in order to remove the bindings that were placed on government by our founding fathers. Once those fetters are gone, we lose.
Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 05:17:18 PM
Steve,
Which Constitution?
As it was written and signed on the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven?
As it was admended and presented to the states by Congress on the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine?
As it is now?
Somewhere in between?
Do all the admendments count, or only some of them?
I don't know whats your point? THe constitution ratified in 1789 by all the states at the time is one that our forefathers agreed on and passed. The articles of confederation are specific in what government duties are and todays government has managed to loosen its shackles and overstepped its constitutional authority in a major way.
Like i have said before, lets get our govt back to its proper duties of defence, export import, and handling foreign affairs.
Quote from: srkruzich on October 28, 2009, 05:31:38 PM
I don't know whats your point? THe constitution ratified in 1789 by all the states at the time is one that our forefathers agreed on and passed. The articles of confederation are specific in what government duties are and todays government has managed to loosen its shackles and overstepped its constitutional authority in a major way.
Like i have said before, lets get our govt back to its proper duties of defence, export import, and handling foreign affairs.
So, all the admendments to the Constitution made since 1789 don't count?
Articles of Confederation? ? ? ? The Constitution replaced the Articles of Confederation. If we're going to enforce the Constitution, then we can't enforce the Articles of Confederation. Which is it going to be Steve?
Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 05:52:30 PM
So, all the admendments to the Constitution made since 1789 don't count?
QuoteArticles of Confederation? ? ? ? The Constitution replaced the Articles of Confederation. If we're going to enforce the Constitution, then we can't enforce the Articles of Confederation. Which is it going to be Steve?
Sorry i ment the articles in the constitution. 1 -7.
I do however believe that the articles of confederation are the best constitution that we could have. But being that there had to be some compromise to get the states to ratify it, they had to pass some changes.
Right now we are seeing even the current constitution being circumvented through judicial legislation as well as outright defiance by the current administration. There is NO constitutional authority for legislating healthcare, there is no constitutional authority for obamas dictating private industry pay and compensation, and there is no authority for many of the programs he has on his agenda.
Its time to slap em down and tell them to get back to their dungeon.
Hey Teresa, both your links are crashed and I played that video for my husband. He had already heard part on Rush. I guess Obama is supposed to sign this treaty in December. Merry Christmas. :P
according to the news the Copenhagen treaty is pretty much dead in the water. The head guy gave a speech crediting the lack of support in the US.
Quote from: pamsback on October 28, 2009, 08:04:58 PM
according to the news the Copenhagen treaty is pretty much dead in the water. The head guy gave a speech crediting the lack of support in the US.
We can only pray and hope. If they get this cap n trade bill passed you can guarantee double and triple electric rates as well as fuel rates. $4.00 a gallon gas will look cheap.
I mean no disrespect by this but don't yall ever get tired of stayin in a lather? If one "bad" thing doesn't come to pass yall just move on to the next one on your list, geez take a break once in a while and celebrate the wins! I reckon if electricity goes up or gas or whatever we'll just do what we always do.......MAKE do....but I ain't gonna sweat what I can do nothing about but holler at congressmen or people who don't listen....or don't CARE. Save my energy for something that matters. Main reason I haven't been in here much...I find I just really don't give that big a sh(& lately and I'm tired of it. I just figure I'll do what needs doin WHEN and IF it NEEDS doin................