It's been several months since we've heard from the Rev Manning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hFiab7fjak&feature=player_embedded
Thanks, i needed a good laugh this morning. Gotta love fake reverends with fake degrees.
So, Anmar, how do you know he is a fake reverend and how do you know his degree is fake? Does his lack of a degree make him a fake reverend? How many reverends/pastors are there who don't have a degree. Many, I would suspect. Did you read that he is a fake reverend with a fake diploma? If so who wrote that he is fake? Where and how did you get the knowledge to make such a statement.
Great post Sarge and great questions.
Here is some information on Manning:
James David Manning (born February 20, 1947) is chief pastor at the ATLAH World Missionary Church on 123rd Street in New York City. Manning grew up in Red Springs, North Carolina, and has been at ATLAH since 1981. ATLAH stands for All The Land Anointed Holy, which is Manning's name for Harlem.[1]
Manning graduated from The College of New Rochelle with a Bachelor of Arts degree and continued on to Union Theological Seminary in the City of New York where he was awarded a Master of Divinity. Manning also holds a Doctor of Philosophy degree from his own ATLAH Theological Seminary, an unaccredited educational institution.[2]
Anmar, is so full of itself and if you notice it's opinions are always fact and everybody else's is wrong. I think ANMAR could be an "O" spy on the forum.
Sarge,
He's got a PhD in philosophy from a university that he created, and is not accredited. Imagine you or I creating our own school, then granted ourselves a PhD. In fact, i'm not happy with my degree, so as of this moment, i'm creating the University of Anmar and Sarge, and i'm giving us both PhD's. Congratulations doctor, it was an honor attending school with you. Surely his undergrad is legit, but not his PhD. As for where i got it, that's pretty simple, it's on his website.
I'm not saying a degree is required to become a reverend, i don't think many of them have theological degrees, but surely they would have to undergo some theological training. You know, the kind where you would have to read the bible. Because anyone who read the bible would know that Harlem isn't the holy land, that would be Jerusalem. Oprah isn't the antichrist, and a real reverend probably wouldn't run around labelling other christians as "whores." I also don't think a real reverend would be such a racist as Manning is. If you don't think he's a racist, look at what he has to say about Obama's mother. What would this kind of man have said about Mary, mother of Jesus, or Mary Magdelane.
Let me just add that Manning is no better or worse than Jeremiah Wright. It's funny that you will support one and trash the other, just because one of them happens to agree with your choice of presidential candidates. by the way, Manning said before the election that God spoke to him, and told him Hillary would win the election, he sure nailed that one.
Ooo i like how i'm an "it" now.
Manning graduated from The College of New Rochelle with a Bachelor of Arts degree and continued on to Union Theological Seminary in the City of New York where he was awarded a Master of Divinity.
Union Theological Seminary in the City of New York is a preeminent independent graduate school of theology, located in Manhattan between Claremont Avenue and Broadway, 120th to 122nd Streets. The seminary was founded in 1836 under the Presbyterian Church,[1] and is currently affiliated with nearby Columbia University.
ANMAR, you mentioned racist, I don't know anyone anymore racist than Obama's lifelong minister and mentor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
I labeled you an it because I don't know if you are a he or a she, I normally don't read your post so I didn't know what you are.
Frawin, perhaps you should read my posts before you start to label and judge me. I'm not an Obama fan, nor am i trying to defend Wright. Both wright and Manning are despicable men and racists in my opinion, and they should be treated the same. Also, please go back and read my post, with regards to fake degrees, i'm speaking of his PhD, not his undergrad work.
ANMAR you said and I quote,"Thanks, i needed a good laugh this morning. Gotta love fake reverends with fake degrees".
Please read my second post in this thread, k thanks.
In your opinion, Anmar, why is Manning a racist?
I haven't seen his website, but in the few youtube clips that I have seen, I think the guy makes some pretty valid points.
Quote from: BillyakaVarmit on July 14, 2009, 06:41:38 PM
In your opinion, Anmar, why is Manning a racist?
LOL yeah its kinda hard to be racist when the very people your calling N***** are the same race as he is.
And i doubt that the Rev thinks his race Is geneticallyl superior than the race of other blacks(which btw i the definition of racism before they politically corrected the definition to include all kinds of crap). Kinda negates the racism theory.
Real preacher or not, Manning does have common sense which is
lacking in the countryside these days. Racist? Nope, not this guy.
Here he goes again...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_aIvfFq3BA
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x147/N3Dale/haveyalostyourmind.jpg)
Go watch the rest of his videos...the mans an idiot.
How so?
Since you've you been reviewing the Manning videos,
could you post one that you think would reveal that
he's an idiot?
The man might not be politically correct, but he is not an idiot. He just isn't afraid to speak his mind.
Please, don't ask us smart people to do everything for you. I mentioned in my post, if you want to see his racism, look up his comments about Obama's mother. I saw some of the other videos, they are all right there, the video's all show that he's an idiot and a racist, just watch them. In one video, he says any white person who calls a black person a racist is really just calling them a "Ni***""
My apologies if anyone is offended, those aren't my words, those are Manning's words.
Quote from: Anmar on July 14, 2009, 09:07:37 PM
Please, don't ask us smart people to do everything for you.
So, because we don't agree with you, we aren't as intelligent?
Also, you "smart people" were the ones who brought the accusation of racism. All I ask is that you to back up your claims.
QuoteI understand that most (not all, with respect to warph and others) of you who post these things don't really do any research before you post, but i don't mind doing it for you, i love reading and looking stuff up.
By the way, I really wish you would make up your mind.
All you have to do is click on the one YOU posted and then keep changing videos right there! The guy is seriously an idiot.
Check out his myspace page....google him and it comes up....
this is a DIRECT quote from said page.... "God also gave me the power, the insight, the strength, to preach about the wickedness of the savage black people the world over. I have learned that there are very, very few black people who are worth anything. Besides Condolezza Rice, Colin Powell, and myself, there are hardly any."
You all have got to be standing up for him just because I said he's an idiot, if you seriously think he is the guy you want to aspire to be.........have you WATCHED any of his OTHER videos? You are saying HE is a spokeperson for the common sense?! Come on!
Pam, even with the quote you posted from his myspace page, the guy has a point. Now before you blow me off, hear me out here. Take a look at Africa, the genocide, rape, stavation, enslavement, mass murders...99.9% of which are carried out by blacks against other blacks. And the numbers make the iraq/afghan losses, on both sides, look microscopic. Look at our own inner city gang crime stats. Bear in mind that the black population numbers in America are just a very small percentage of the worlds overall numbers.
Do I want to aspire to be that guy, no, but alot of what he says makes since. For example, in one of his videos he says that the best thing to happen to blacks was being taken out of africa. At that time in history almost every other civilization had evolved. They built cities, empires, countries. Africans were still living in mud/dung hovels.
Compare Africa to the rest of the world. It is a contient rich in natural resources, yet its people are starving, AIDS is rampant, as are other diseases, like no other place on earth. Do you honestly think that blacks in america today would have been better off if their ancestors hadn't been brought here?
Never said they WOULD have been. I agree with you on that. I don't care about the black people part..I was just tryin to show what an idiot the guy is that he would say some of the things he says. God save me from the planet where guys like HIM are in charge.
Quote from: BillyakaVarmit on July 14, 2009, 10:27:39 PM
Pam, even with the quote you posted from his myspace page, the guy has a point. Now before you blow me off, hear me out here. Take a look at Africa, the genocide, rape, stavation, enslavement, mass murders...99.9% of which are carried out by blacks against other blacks. And the numbers make the iraq/afghan losses, on both sides, look microscopic. Look at our own inner city gang crime stats. Bear in mind that the black population numbers in America are just a very small percentage of the worlds overall numbers.
Do I want to aspire to be that guy, no, but alot of what he says makes since. For example, in one of his videos he says that the best thing to happen to blacks was being taken out of africa. At that time in history almost every other civilization had evolved. They built cities, empires, countries. Africans were still living in mud/dung hovels.
Compare Africa to the rest of the world. It is a contient rich in natural resources, yet its people are starving, AIDS is rampant, as are other diseases, like no other place on earth. Do you honestly think that blacks in america today would have been better off if their ancestors hadn't been brought here?
Right, like none of that has ever happened in the history of other ethnicities. ::)
It may have, but others have bettered themselves since. Or have at least made an effort. And if you'll go back and read pams quote, no other "ethnicities" were mentioned. In the quote pam used, manning was talking about blacks. So, I was trying to "stick with the issue" and stay on topic.
QuoteRight, like none of that has ever happened in the history of other ethnicities.
Still happens..everyday....all over the world.
Billy, when it comes to street gangs, the most prevalent ethnicity here in california actually aren't blacks, it's hispanics that are really the problem. I would argue that the conditions of poverty, the hip-hop culture, and lack of an opportunity for advancement create a culture that breeds violence. Anyone who grows up under a certain set of conditions has a strong chance of becoming involved with that culture, regardless of race. We see it all the time out here, white gangs, asian, hispanic, black, etc. In my city, we even have a Pakistani gang.
Africa is a different subject, but I would imagine along the same lines. I don't think it's a coincidence that the poorest regions of Africa are also the most violent.
I'll try to stick more to the topic in future posts :-[
I don't have a lot of time this morning, but let me say this. Anmar, wheather you realize it or not, your post agrees with what manning says. The hip-hop culture was started by and expressed mainly by who???
Lack of opportunity for advancement??? PLEASE....the only thing lacking is the grit and determination to pull themselves up. For those of them who might be reading this, allow me in inject a few words into your vocabulary..Pell Grant, Scholarship, Student Loan. Either one of these will provide them with the opportunity to advance.
Using poverty as an excuse must be a racial and geographical thing. If it wasn't then Elk county would be crawling with gang members, yet it is not, hmmmmm.
Quote from ANMAR "Please, don't ask us smart people to do everything for you."
You are really full of yourself, even after seeing some of your post I can't believe you put this out there. It is easy to see why several people have said they don't read your post.