These articles were written BEFORE Obama was elected president but were somehow covered up.
From the "American Thinker": http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/archives_prove_obama_was_a_new.html
Barack Obama entered electoral politics as a member of a radical marxist group aimed at gaining control of the Democratic Party in order to implement a hardline version of socialism in America. He signed a contract promising to maintain a visible relationship. The candidate should be pressed by McCain/Palin to reveal that contract and proclaim his adherence to New Party goals before the American people approve him for our hifghest office.
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From the Human Events/The RedState: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26913
.....nonetheless, Obama still coveted the New Party endorsement. The New Party required candidates who received the endorsement sign a pledge of support for the party. Obama did not need to support a party that was, in effect, a front group for communists; yet he still chose to. The July issue of the New Ground noted that 15% of the New Party consisted of Democratic Socialists of America members and a good number of Committee of Correspondence members.
Barack Obama, not needing to, chose to affiliate himself with this band of quasi-communists. As the nation moves closer to the election, it is clear that Obama chose to affiliate with assorted anti-American radicals. Machiavelli once noted that we can know a leader by the people he surrounds himself with. What does that say about Barack Obama, who chose to surround himself with people committed to overthrowing the United States and capitalism?
Unless you are planning to start a movement to have him impeached, why is this important now? We've moved on. And no I will not call you a Rebumlican...that wouldn't be nice. But it is funny.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 18, 2009, 04:49:40 PM
Unless you are planning to start a movement to have him impeached, why is this important now? We've moved on. And no I will not call you a Rebumlican...that wouldn't be nice. But it is funny.
That's the problem.... too many "slackers" have moved on!
You seem angry...a lot. ???
It seems to me that a lot of us should be "angry" and not just passive, as so many seem to be.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 18, 2009, 04:49:40 PM
Unless you are planning to start a movement to have him impeached, why is this important now? We've moved on. And no I will not call you a Rebumlican...that wouldn't be nice. But it is funny.
Are you serious??? Who has moved on...over 750 Tea Parties across the nation and you honestly think we've moved on?....Our Constitution is being violated more than ever before and you ask why this is important?? Are you serious??? :o :o
The tea parties were just fine, that's a very acceptable thing, that IS moving on. I just don't see why anybody's long past history is still important 3 months after the election. The Democrats didn't keep pounding that Bush was a drunk and an alcoholic long after the election was over. Someone could have kept stirring that pot for years! I'm glad "they" didn't. It's just not good for the country, especially the kids, to hear that stuff over and over and over. That's how hate gets taught.
"Our constitution is being violated more than ever before"--key words--"ever before". It isn't like this has never happened before. We have weathered a lot of bad decisions in the past and we have survived. Why should be get so upset over this one?
Right on, Diane. Let's get our kids all riled up and worried about their futures while they are still 6 years old. They don't have enough stress already. :-[ :-[
Bush's being an alcoholic was not a preview or pretext of how he was going to govern. As far as people still "stirring the pot" we STILL hear the left and right BUSH BASHING. Yes, our Constitution has been violated in the past but not with such verocity. The only reason we were able to withstand it in the past is because of patriotic Americans who were willing to stand up for what is right, even though it might not have been the popular thing to do. Nowadays, most people in this country don't have the guts to do that, or their eyes are closed to what is happening. They would rather believe the so call "unbiased" mainstream media that has made obama out to be the messiah. They don't realize who it was that mentored him, and the extreme anti American views he carries. They would rather stay asleep to the facts. As far as our children are concerned, they need to know the truth about this country, not be infected with the liberal, socialist crap that passes for education these days.
The key words are "our Constitution is being violated.." I spoke out when bush did it, and I will continue to do it with obama, as should all Americans, those that aren't asleep anyway.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 19, 2009, 07:39:32 AM
The tea parties were just fine, that's a very acceptable thing, that IS moving on. I just don't see why anybody's long past history is still important 3 months after the election. The Democrats didn't keep pounding that Bush was a drunk and an alcoholic long after the election was over. Someone could have kept stirring that pot for years! I'm glad "they" didn't. It's just not good for the country, especially the kids, to hear that stuff over and over and over. That's how hate gets taught.
I am trying to avoid the Politcal arguments but this one was to much. Daine, the reason that the Dems/Liberals/left couldn't keep saying Bush was a drunk, is because he wasn't.
Now tell me that Obama didn't attend Church for 20 years and worship under the Racist, hate America, the Reverend Jeremiah Wrigt. That fact alone should have kept this man from even being considered for President of this great Nation.
You all want to know what I am MOST grateful for in my life?
1. My Grandad Smith....he taught me things about various subjects that most people never talked about...especially with "impressionable" children
2. My dad...he taught me perseverance in the face of antagonism, patience and responsibility.
3. My GRANma Smith.....she taught me laughter in the face of adversity and taught me to never laugh in the face of peoples dreams no matter HOW seemingly unreachable they were. And quiet faith and to be kind....
4. My Mom for the same plus her and all the rest for teachin me to make do and know it was ok to make do, didn't make me less.
5. My Aunt Nellie for giving me appreciation and knowledge of nature and science and learning.
Most of all, I am grateful these people who were responsible for the raising of me didn't LIMIT my education, didn't forbid me to know things just because they may not have agrred with them, encouraged me to find out for myself, and respected the other guys point of view.........they taught me MY history.......gave me hope for my future.....and taught me narrow-minded points of view are the single most dangerous things in the world because they LIMIT the possibilities.
Just because people are going about their lives and not standing around knashing their teeth does not mean they are asleep, unpatriotic, stupid, or asleep to the "facts". It has been my experience in life that the quiet guy in the corner is the one you want at your back when the shit hits the fan cause the one doin all the instigatin is gonna run out on you. Steady....openminded....that's what this country needs at the moment more than ANYthing or ANYbody.
And yes Frank....in the 80's Bush had a drinkin problem and a nasty cocaine habit both of which he kicked.
Those are all good things, Pam.
But why not remove the fecal matter before it hits the fan, because when it does it is going to splatter, and leave a worse mess.
One persons fecal matter is another persons chocolate pie.
I hear home schoolers all the time.....I'm schooling my kids myself so I know what they are being taught. I don't want them to know this or that or whatever.
I hear people say Public school is just government indoctrination, I'm schoolin my kids myself or sending them to some private school so I know what they are being taught.
Then I hear these SAME people bitching about censorship and the fairness doctrine. What the hells the difference?
That was my point..... I was taught there is merit in other points of view and even if you don't agree with em they give you food for thought and either change your view or solidify it for whatever reason. I have NEVER limited what my kids were "allowed" to know. In fact I've always done what was done for me...encouraged them to look for more and be open to the possibility that there may be a better way to skin a cat so to speak.
You can't have it both ways and it seems to me that that is really what people on BOTH sides in this country really want. They want the freedom of their OWN opinion and the censorship of everybody elses who doesn't agree with them.
Unless something on the level of a major miracle happens, there is no way to remove anyone at this point. What is necessary now is to just keep a very close eye on what transpires from here on out. But, don't hold your breath...Slick Willy was a totally hedonistic president...And got re-elected...Not to mention his partner-in-crime being put into a major player role in this current gov't. Will we never be rid of that scum? If Hillary is going to serve, then shouldn't the happy couple be required to return everything that they took out of the White House? Or did their settle-up with the gov't. include getting to keep those items? There's more than enough fecal matter in DC to keep us all busy with keeping an eye on "them".
A huge pile of crap is basically what DC is.................
Kudos to you for home schooling your children, wish I could do the same.
"You can't have it both ways and it seems to me that that is really what people on BOTH sides in this country really want. They want the freedom of their OWN opinion and the censorship of everybody elses who doesn't agree with them."-pam
I would say that that is what the left wants, if it weren't then Creationism would be taught along with evolution. So would the fact the Rights of the States to goven themselves was the issue that started the Civil war, not slavery. That we are a Republic not a democracy. That it would be a choice to participate in school led prayer, not an out right ban.
The leftist want fairness for all, except those that disagree with them.
Dude I don't homeschool my kids! Two of them graduated from West Elk! My daughter graduates next year from a public high school. The only homeschooling I did was to teach them the "rest of the story" as Paul Harvey would say.
My point was the homeschoolers I do know just do it to control what their kids are "allowed" to know.
You know what I pray every day out in public, doing whatever I'm doin. I have never felt the need to make a big production out of the fact that HEY YALL guess what I'M doin! I think the whole argument is ridiculous.
It should come as no surprise to people that the "popular" version of history is distorted to fit what makes somthin "look good"
everything IS.
The Coservatives would have it the same way if it was possible.
Dude I don't homeschool my kids!-pam
I know , I misread your post, sorry.
Lol, much as I enjoy tradin ideas with you bud I gotta get off here and do somethin :P Hope y'all have a good rest of your Sunday :)
And yes Frank....in the 80's Bush had a drinkin problem and a nasty cocaine habit both of which he kicked.
Pam there has never been any documented proof whatsoever, from a reliable source, that George W. Bush had a Cocaine problem or ever used Cocaine for that matter. I was around him several times in the early 80s both at the Midland Country Club and at the Petroleum club, we sat behind them at the local football games. He drank some but lots of peopel did. Midland was the heart of the US Oil patch and lots of people in the Oil Patch drink some and maybe a lot, I doubt that he was a a complete alcoholic, I suppose that will always be debated, but to say he had a nasty Cocaine habit is totally irresponsible.
Quote from: frawin on April 19, 2009, 11:17:20 AM
Pam there has never been any documented proof whatsoever, from a reliable source, that George W. Bush had a Cocaine problem or ever used Cocaine for that matter. I was around him several times in the early 80s both at the Midland Country Club and at the Petroleum club, we sat behind them at the local football games. He drank some but lots of people did. Midland was the heart of the US Oil patch and lots of people in the Oil Patch drink some and maybe a lot, I doubt that he was a a complete alcoholic, I suppose that will always be debated, but to say he had a nasty Cocaine habit is totally irresponsible.
I am jumping in here only to ask if you knew Jack Jordan who was a geologist and lived in Midland for many years.
LOL...whatever... I never said he was full blown achoholic...I said he had a drinking problem which he himself and other members of his family have acknowledged in interviews. No I never personally saw him use cocaine...I've never hung out with any "mucky-mucks". I also don't care...... same as I never cared about Clintons sex life or any of the other presidents bad habits or scandals. It is not irresponsible to bring it up unless bringing up ANYbodys ancient history is irresponsible.
QuoteI am jumping in here only to ask if you knew Jack Jordan who was a geologist and lived in Midland for many years.
Who me? No, I don't, don't ring a bell anyway...
No no sweetie, that was a question for Frawin. The quote I copied and pasted came from him and I had to go back just now to make sure I put the name at the end. Larryj
Sorry Larry I had to leave for awhile. I don't recall a Jack Jordan, although I knew several Jordans in Midland. I met lots of really interesting and super nice people in Midland in the 27 years I spent there. I was in Oil and Gas Marketing and dealt directly with lots of small independent operators and dealt with the oil and gas marketers with the bigger operators.
Frank Winn
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 18, 2009, 05:39:20 PM
You seem angry...a lot. ???
Who, Me??? Naw.... I'm too old to get angry. Its too hard on my B/P.
Good. I thought I'd given you cardiac arrest! :laugh: