I am watching O's Congressional address with great interest. It is interesting that the small section holding the Republicans is the loudest section...I've never heard silence scream louder than it has tonight. Whoops...the Repub's are finally standing...Guess the news about monies being given out for student loans, car loans and small business loans must be good news...They're even clapping. Hmmm. Gods...Now he's putting down CEOs for using private jets and taking expensive vacations...I'll be REALLY impressed when he, Big Bad Joe ('cause you don't mess with Joe, right?), the big pile of Pelosi and the rest of those fat cats take pay cuts and have to stomach an equal share of the common American's pain-filled pie. I just hope O can deliver on all of the fancy talking he's doing tonight. Uh oh...Now he's made the statement that he's put forth the funding to make sure teachers don't get cut...That's a pile of bullhooie. I don't know of a district around here who isn't looking at VERY deep cuts coming...they're predicting as much as 4.5%, possibly more, for the next year. Wait a minute...now he's said that this legislation is free of earmarks? Who is he kidding now? OH NO...Now he's talking about ending payments to big farm corporations. WHOOPS...Now he's talking about tax cuts to 95% of working people...and the checks are on the way....Where's MINE?
I'm jumpin off the fence...........there was a lot of intelligence and foresight in his speech. Common sense did make an appearance. It was an inspiring speech. I'm not naive enought to believe much of it will make it thru the process but it would be absolutely cool if for ONCE Congress would do what's BEST for all of America instead of what's best for them.
I know most of you are Obama haters and I've been an Obama sceptic myself, I have changed my opinion.
Let the beatin commence.............................
No beating will come from me, Pam...And, for the record, I don't hate him...I just don't trust him. Anyone who has taken a high school speech or forensics course (or been a member of Madrigals) can deliver a stirring rendition of "We Shall Overcome". I'll believe the rendition I've heard tonight when I actually see this great nation getting up off of it's collective knees (we might have taken a knock in this recession but we're not down for the count just yet) and utilizing our greatest tool...Our democracy...To get us back on the right track. I would love to believe that this stimulus package is just the ticket...I don't, though. I'm apprehensive regarding the level of debt that this is going to put on our children's backs. I know a jumpstart is necessary...But was the monies put aside to study pig and cow odors and manure REALLY necessary? Talk about earmarks!
Oh I agree with you for the most part Catwoman but I think he has a good vision basically. Most of the things he said amounted to common sense.
Our greatest tool tho isn't our government, it is you, me and every other American no matter what their ethnicity is. We can make these things happen with or without the support of our government. Our government can't do ANYthing tho without IT'S greatest tool, the American people.
No president or congress, except the first one, has ever been responsible for any great thing, and THEY got the idea from the Iraquois Confederacy.
The American PEOPLE are what made this country and our government what it was and can be again. We HAVE to change, the same ol program ain't gonna cut it anymore, it's just delaying the inevitable.
We have to get back to our roots, start taking care of our own, start being responsible for our own destinies, stop living on credit, and stop blaming.
That's the 3 things I got from the speech......personal responsibility, financial responsibility and parental responsibility.
The secret to the government not doing what they want is to do what you need for yourself, your family and your neighbors without them.
vision smigion.......
He is as corrupt and crooked as they come.
You can like him all you want.......... That is none of my business.
I can't stand nor do I trust the socialistic lying slime ball.
((And with that cheery note.. I will smile and politely bow out of this thread.. ;D))
Lol, Like he has a monopoly on bein corrupt and crooked in our government :P I think that is a job requirement!
I'm impressed with the message...not necesarily the messenger. I can work the message with or with out the government.
Don't bow out on my account! LOL I've been havin my own opinions for years whether or NOT anybody likes em. Think that's why I'm so popular with the in-crowd :P
Wow, CW.... Good reporting! 8) I wished I read your play by play of the O's speech tonight instead of wasting my time watching him on C-Span. BTW, no mention of the PORK in the stimulus bill. :o I wonder why??? :P
WHy is it that Government has to save us economically?
They don't, theoretically speaking...But, realistically speaking, we're going to be in a world of hurt if we don't get a shot of penicillan soon to stem the tide of all this flesh-eating bacteria that our current system is experiencing. Pam is right...we need changes at the most basic level. Short of someone invading us and taking us over, though, I don't expect to see the kind of change occur that is really needed. We've got way too many people at the governmental level who are entrenched, "business as usual" types. Too bad we can't just make a clean sweep and put Pam, Frank, Teresa and Warph into office. Man, we'd be rocking then! :o lol
Quote from: Catwoman on February 25, 2009, 07:28:34 PM
They don't, theoretically speaking...But, realistically speaking, we're going to be in a world of hurt if we don't get a shot of penicillan soon to stem the tide of all this flesh-eating bacteria that our current system is experiencing. Pam is right...we need changes at the most basic level. Short of someone invading us and taking us over, though, I don't expect to see the kind of change occur that is really needed. We've got way too many people at the governmental level who are entrenched, "business as usual" types. Too bad we can't just make a clean sweep and put Pam, Frank, Teresa and Warph into office. Man, we'd be rocking then! :o lol
Well quite frankly they have had enough doses of pennicillan. to start with they took 750 billion and told us that we the people would be paid back by these companies they doled it out to. How they intend on paying back that money i have no idea since we never got a Bona fide Contract stating the terms of the agreement, the length of time for the "loan", nor the rate of interest our money would make. In other words we got screwed.
Then they tell us, oh that isn't enough, we need 850 billion more dollars cause its all going to fall apart. AGAIN they take the money out of our pockets, and don't even kiss us first before they screw us, and then dole it out. I heard again today, that the messiah can't save us with 1.6 trillion dollars they have stolen, so now they need another 500 billion out of our pockets.
I say hell no. Enough is enough. IF they can't do what they need to do with 1.6 trillion then nothing is going to save it. Let it die. I have absolutely no sympathy for the banks. They screwed us and screwed themselves. NOw their begging for money so they can do it again to us. Let those who will survive survive and those who will fail fail.
A lot of good opinions on this one. I don't normally like to chime in on politics, but I'll make an exception this time because this has been festering in my mind lately...
I believe that "We the People" need to start from the bottom. Dare I say, Grassroots efforts. Meaning, let's start locally. Stop complaining and start DOING. Support your local businesses. Keep our hard-earned money in our own hard-pressed communities. Elect local positions based on not who is your neighbor and who is willing to run, but who will actually do the best job for the community.
Then, take it a step higher; be willing to vote outside of party lines for state-elected positions and focus on how those people will represent your district/ area/ county's needs and interests... Again, keep money in-state. Support state organizations. Vacation in Kansas. Support other small towns who share the same hard-pressed lifestyle that we have. If Batson's doesn't have it, shop Eureka or Sedan. UNITE with other communities. Have Home-Town-Pride, but don't let it get in the way of progress, either. Have pride in all Home-Towns; when visiting other towns, eat locally, shop locally, stay locally.
If making a choice between shopping locally and shopping discount, don't just compare the cost, but compare the benefit to the local economy. Yes, you might be able to get X product for $1.00 cheaper at the big discount store, but do you know the check-out girl who is earning money for college? Do you know that she sometimes splurges and spends her hard-earned money down at the local restaurant to eat with friends? Do you know the waiter that waits on them is also earning money so he can buy new tires for his car at the tire shop across the street? Do you know that the tire shop owner donates money to the local grade schools during their fundraisers? And do you know that those kids (maybe YOUR kids or grandkids) are learning valuable lessons during fundraisers that help educate them and fund their education so that they can grow, get higher education, and return to their hometowns to be vets and pharmacists and bankers and restauranteers and tire shop owners?
The joy of living in a small town is that small actions do not go unnoticed. Small amounts of support go a long way. Let's re-build this great country the way our forefathers originally did... one small town at a time.
Very good, Tobina, especially the "stop complaining and start doing" - that's right next to too many chiefs and not enough indians. You don't support small towns, there soon won't be any small towns.
Srkruzich-
I'm agreeing with you. Also, just read this short & good one by Ron Paul entitled
"Stop Intervening in the Economy":
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul510.html
The Obama coins, the Obama plates and now something for the rest of us ..........
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