Great Orators of the Democratic Party...
'One man with courage makes a majority.'
- Andrew Jackson
'The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.'
- Franklin D. Roosevelt
'The buck stops here.'
- Harry S. Truman
'Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.'
- John F. Kennedy
And for today's democrats...
'It depends what your definition of 'IS' is?''
- Bill Clinton
'That Obama - I would like to cut his NUTS off.'
- Jesse Jackson
'Those rumors are false .... I believe in the sanctity of marriage.'
- John Edwards
'I invented the Internet'
- Al Gore
'The next Person that tells me I'm not religious, I'm going to shove my rosary beads up their ***.'
- Joe Biden
'America is--is no longer, uh, what it--it, uh, could be, uh what it was once was...uh, and I say to myself, 'uh, I don't want that future, uh, uh for my children.' ''
- Barack Obama
'I have campaigned in all 57 states.
- Barack Obama
'You don't need God anymore, you have us democrats.'
- Nancy Pelosi (said back in 2006)
'Bill is the greatest husband and father I know. No one is more faithful, true, and honest than he.'
- Hillary Clinton (said back in 1998)
Got any from any great republican orators?
Quote from: greatguns on October 31, 2008, 05:06:51 PM
Got any from any great republican orators?
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
- Sir Winston Churchill
This could include a woman as well.
Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.
- Karl Rove
I will make a bargain with the Democrats. If they will stop telling lies about Republicans, we will stop telling the truth about them.
Now Diane think about that, you know there is no way that Winston Churchill would be as liberal thinking as the typical Democrat of today, if he was the British would all be speaking German.
If I remember correctly we had a democrat in office during WWII.
ELK@KC, one more time, I won't argue with a fool becaause a bystander can't tell which is a fool. Don't judge me because you don't know me or I you.
Don't worry GG, I know which is not the fool, and they certainly don't quote Karl Rove!! LOL!!! ;D ;D
Quote from: sixdogsmom on October 31, 2008, 06:50:48 PM
If I remember correctly we had a democrat in office during WWII.
Hmmmm...there's a good research question for Warph, David, Frank, Diane, or Teresa...In the history of the USA, given the numbers of wars or involvements that we've been forced to endure, what is the number of Democrats vs. Repub's who were in the Presidency? Which political party has been in control the most when we've been shoved into harm's way? I have no gut feeling on this one...wonder which will end up being the 'winner' in this question?
The question is really not who was president during the war but who was president when the war started and who was president when the war ended.
Good point. So, what is the answer?
Between the Spanish American war (McKinley Rep) and First Gulf war ( Bush I Rep.) Democrats got us into all the wars we were involved in.
http://www.apples4theteacher.com/holidays/presidents-day/political-parties.html
Also remember that alot of people only ran on a main party for the election Teddy for example was a bull moose.( party he helped found)
Uh oh...Yeah, that's what I was thinking but didn't want to say it too loudly. Huh. Well, well...that makes a grand total of three Republican Presidents who have started wars...the rest (and there's quite a number of them) were started by Democrats. Well, alrighty then.
off topic.. but well said Diane. in many levels.
our 2nd amendments rights... as citizens protecting our family's etc..
Take those away or alter them ..and you have 'the people' defenseless to do anything but succumb to whatever war is being waged against you.
Democrats or Republican.......STUPID people start wars.
stupid or not.....still happens.......... and you have to be able to stand up and fight when it does.
My ancestors been standin up and fightin for centuries, don't reckon we will stop anytime soon.
That's good.. pack some beef jerky.. LOL
Quote from: pam on November 03, 2008, 08:11:19 AMDemocrats or Republican.......STUPID people start wars.
God is stupid?
Not all wars are unjustified...
Quote from: mtcookson on November 03, 2008, 01:45:34 PM
Quote from: pam on November 03, 2008, 08:11:19 AMDemocrats or Republican.......STUPID people start wars.
God is stupid?
Not all wars are unjustified...
How does God start a war? I didn't say they were all unjustified, I said they were stupid justified or not.
And for that matter when did I say anything about God???????????????
QuoteSTUPID people start wars
God commanded wars to be started and people to be killed, as said in the Bible. Therefore, He started wars and going by your statement He is then stupid.
Basically all I'm getting at it there are times when war is absolutely necessary and a person starting a war does not mean they are stupid.
Whatever....... Wars are stupid, most of the reasons they are started are stupid, most of things that happen are totally uncalled for. People use God as an excuse for war way too often. We are just gonna have to agree to disagree here bud, cause twistin my words that way doesn't change my position one bit.
Quote from: mtcookson on November 03, 2008, 03:59:52 PM
QuoteSTUPID people start wars
God commanded wars to be started and people to be killed, as said in the Bible. Therefore, He started wars and going by your statement He is then stupid.
Basically all I'm getting at it there are times when war is absolutely necessary and a person starting a war does not mean they are stupid.
There are all kinds of reasons that wars start, not all of them having to do with self-defense...at times, wars are started to stimulate certain areas of the economy...or make sure that we have a foothold in a politically hot area of the world...it has even been discussed that China will one day start a world war, in order to give the billions of men there something to keep them occupied, since their child policies have resulted in a higher percentage of men being raised vs. percentage of women. I agree with Pam...it's sheer stupid arrogance that leads people to play chess with other peoples' lives...yes, in the case of self-defense, it's necessary...but how often does a case like that arise, in all honesty? Since 9-11, it's become far more common to act in self-defense, even pre-emptively.
Quote from: pam on November 03, 2008, 08:24:26 PM
Whatever....... Wars are stupid, most of the reasons they are started are stupid, most of things that happen are totally uncalled for. People use God as an excuse for war way too often. We are just gonna have to agree to disagree here bud, cause twistin my words that way doesn't change my position one bit.
I guess the American Revolution was "Stupid"
Necessary but stupid.
Quote from: Carl Harrod on November 04, 2008, 12:31:47 AM
Quote from: pam on November 03, 2008, 08:24:26 PM
Whatever....... Wars are stupid, most of the reasons they are started are stupid, most of things that happen are totally uncalled for. People use God as an excuse for war way too often. We are just gonna have to agree to disagree here bud, cause twistin my words that way doesn't change my position one bit.
I guess the American Revolution was "Stupid"
That is the one war that I will never call stupid...it established the start of the greatest human experiment ever known to man...the United States of America...the one experiment that in 232 years has showered the benefits of freedom, in all it's forms, upon the luckiest group of individuals ever to walk this earth. Say what you will about our various troubles...because, yes, we do have them...but, overall, we live a life that plenty of others out in this wide world are willing to kill or be killed to attain. No apologies here, people...my ancestors fought in that Revolutionary War.
I hear what you're sayin, and y'all are misunderstandin me a little. My point is that just the fact that some wars ARE necessary is stupid......the fact that there is no other way to get things done sometimes than that is absolutely stupid. I have been working on my family tree for awhile now and I have documented ancestors fighting in wars for freedom ever since Mary Stuart, fighting the British in Ireland, the Revolution, 1812, the Civil War, Spanish American, both World wars, and Korea, we just didn't have anybody to go in Vietnam in the immediate family. Just because you are fighting them doesn't mean you don't see the ultimate stupidity of the fact that that is the only way.........