http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/01/palin.daughter/index.html
Is this all you people can do? Dig up dirt on somebody else? Do you remember that Jesus said, " Ye who is without sin, cast the first stone"? >:( :'( :'(
Honestly its a non-issue as far as Sarah palin is concerned. Her daughter is almost 18, made a bad decsion and
now is handling it like an adult.
I know the liberals are all trying to make something of it like shes a bad mom or something.
Should be off limits by the media you know.
Quote from: Wilma on September 01, 2008, 05:15:07 PM
Is this all you people can do? Dig up dirt on somebody else?
I certainly hope your comment wasn't directed at me, Wilma... I put this on here because I thought CNN reported this in a more favorable light than most media articles I read. I know how the family feels because I went through this myself. My heart goes out to the family and that's where it should stay, within the family. Don't forget, I'm a staunch republican and plan to vote the McCain/Palin ticket. Now as far as 'digging up dirt' on someone, you are probably referring to my threads on Obama.... (that is, if you are directing your comment to me).... and believe me, I plan to keep it up. Obama's dirty.... and that's not 'dirt'.... That's a fact! ....Warph
Well hello Warph hammer........ You just hit the nail on the head! ;)
The whole shoddy business of politics in our country makes me ashamed of the people we have elected. All the dirt diggin, inuendos, rumors, scare tactics totally disgust me.I am ashamed of democrats and republicans alike.
I don't think anyone encourages teen pregnancy and it certainly is a problem in the United States. Leave Bristol Palin out of the mudslinging. For those shocked by this teen pregnancy; go take a look at your family tree and do the math. If you can get by your own kids without any teen sex or pregnancy most people won't have to go too far down the family tree to run into someone Bristol Palin's age that was pregnant at 17 and then got married. Do the math, before you cast stones.
Teen Pregnancy and Birth Rates
in the United States
DECEMBER 2007
Teen Pregnancy Rates per 1,000 Girls Aged 15-19, 2000
State Rate Rank State Rate Rank
North Dakota 42 1 Oregon 79 28
Vermont 44 2 Colorado 82 29
New Hampshire 47 3 Oklahoma 86 30
Minnesota 50 4 Illinois 87 31
Maine 52 5 Louisiana 87 32
Utah 53 6 Tennessee 89 33
South Dakota 54 7 South Carolina 89 34
Iowa 55 8 New Jersey 90 35
Wisconsin 55 9 Alabama 90 36
Nebraska 59 10 New York 91 37
Massachusetts 60 11 Maryland 91 38
Pennsylvania 60 12 Hawaii 93 39
Montana 60 13 Delaware 93 40
Idaho 62 14 Arkansas 93 41
Rhode Island 67 15 North Carolina 95 42
West Virginia 67 16 Georgia 95 43
Kansas 69 17 California 96 44
Connecticut 70 18 Florida 97 45
Virginia 72 19 Texas 101 46
Indiana 73 20 New Mexico 103 47
Alaska 73 21 Mississippi 103 48
Missouri 74 22 Arizona 104 49
Ohio 74 23 Nevada 113 50
Michigan 75 24
Washington 75 25 District of Columbia 128
Kentucky 76 26
Wyoming 77 27 United States 84
http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/national-data/pdf/STBYST07.pdf
David
p.s. Warph this is directed at the universe at large not you. I read your post and saw what you were doing.
David, could you follow up on that with the number of teens per 1000 that had sex and didn't get caught or pregnant.
Quote from: frawin on September 02, 2008, 01:03:55 PM
David, could you follow up on that with the number of teens per 1000 that had sex and didn't get caught or pregnant.
•Nearly half (46%) of all 15-19-year-olds in the United States have had sex at least once.
Looks to be 460 out of 1000.
Another stat from the same place is more in line with what my guess would be
•By age 15, only 13% of teens have ever had sex. However, by the time they reach age 19, seven in 10 teens have engaged in sexual intercourse 700 out of a 1000 sounds more like it to me. See link for more info.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_ATSRH.html
QuoteI don't think anyone encourages teen pregnancy and it certainly is a problem in the United States. Leave Bristol Palin out of the mudslinging. For those shocked by this teen pregnancy; go take a look at your family tree and do the math. If you can get by your own kids without any teen sex or pregnancy most people won't have to go too far down the family tree to run into someone Bristol Palin's age that was pregnant at 17 and then got married. Do the math, before you cast stones.
AMEN dna, Stuff like what they are sayin about that girl is what makes me ashamed of people. About her and the baby with Downes. Children are sacred and off limits. People who are shocked by teenage pregnancy are either really good actors, really big liars or have been livin in a cave for the last thousand years or so.
Actually, I haven't heard anyone saying anything bad or that much at all about Sarah's baby, Trig Paxson or about Bristol and her pregnancy. I think both sides have tried to avoid that, full well knowing that the American people would not take kindly to any bad remarks about either one. I think Sarah Palins choice to carry babyTrig to delivery and to commit to raising baby Trig shows the kind of strength, love and dedication this lady has. Having watched and listened to Sarah Palin the past few days I think Bristol has gotten a lot of love and understanding and will do great as a young mother. I think that topic has not and will not be an issue.
I agree with you on this one Frank. There was an initial flurry about it but like you say most people with brains figured out that wasn't somewhere they wanted to go.
"I certainly hope your comment wasn't directed at me, Wilma... I put this on here because I thought CNN reported this in a more favorable light than most media articles I read. I know how the family feels because I went through this myself. My heart goes out to the family and that's where it should stay, within the family. Don't forget, I'm a staunch republican and plan to vote the McCain/Palin ticket. Now as far as 'digging up dirt' on someone, you are probably referring to my threads on Obama.... (that is, if you are directing your comment to me).... and believe me, I plan to keep it up. Obama's dirty.... and that's not 'dirt'.... That's a fact! ....Warph"
Warph, my comment wasn't directed directly at you. When I saw your attention grabbing headline, I was mad. I didn't even read the article. This mad goes back a long, long way to when every time a girl got married, the old biddies started counting on their fingers to see when the baby was due.
I was mad because this has no place in this election. I would have replied sooner, but I had an appointment in Wichita this morning and needed to get on the road. I have had all day to think about it and I was still mad when I heard Senator Obama say, and I would quote if I could remember his exact words. The gist of his words was this, Keep the children out of this. The CHILDREN are OFF LIMITS. He went on to say that the condition of the daughter had nothing to do with whether or not Gov. Palin would be a good vice president. He paused a bit before saying "be a good vice-president", but there wasn't anything else he could say that would make his meaning clear. He also said that if he found out that anyone of his employees had anything to do with this, they would be fired.
What I was mad about was that the media felt that it was necessary to drag this before the public. I can't understand what they thought it would accomplish or why they felt everybody needed to know.
I am feeling a lot better this evening as I had good news today and a last laugh. And I mean the laugh was terrific.
Quote from: pam on September 02, 2008, 09:19:58 AM
The whole shoddy business of politics in our country makes me ashamed of the people we have elected. All the dirt diggin, inuendos, rumors, scare tactics totally disgust me.I am ashamed of democrats and republicans alike.
AMEN, Pam...I so totally agree with you!
Wonder if legalized prostitution in Nevada has anything to do with changing the mind set for teens that it is more acceptable and making Nevada's numbers higher? Just an observation. ???
OR.....Maybe it's because there's legalized gambling in Nevada that there's more pregnant teens. Just a thought.
Girls AND BOYS have been having sex before marriage since the beginning of time. Some pay the consequences of it and some get by and don't.
But to even put that girl in the spotlight to begin with was classless.
Some of my dearest friends since childhood were pregnant before they got married. They married the father of their children and lived with them happily until they passed away. Those young men stepped up, grew up and became good fathers and husbands. No one could have had a more loving mother than my friends were and still are to their children and now grandchildren. I am blessed to have them in my life. They took a lot of crap from people years ago when they were in this situation. At least back then we all know things were different and sexuality in any aspect was not dealth with openly. But in todays world with all the open sexuality in every venue to have people come out and attack this girl as if it were the 50's and early 60's is just the heighth of hiprocrasy and meaness.
I believe what happens or has happened to any member of Ms. Palin's family is "family business" and has no bearing whatsoever on the welfare of this country or this election.
Quote from: Wilma on September 02, 2008, 03:45:37 PM
Warph, my comment wasn't directed directly at you. When I saw your attention grabbing headline, I was mad. I didn't even read the article. This mad goes back a long, long way to when every time a girl got married, the old biddies started counting on their fingers to see when the baby was due. I was mad because this has no place in this election.
I am feeling a lot better this evening as I had good news today and a last laugh. And I mean the laugh was terrific.
I was hoping it wasn't, Wilma because that sure didn't sound like you. LOL... you're forgiven :) ... and I know where you are coming from and I agree whole heartely with you. BTW, you'll have to tell us what the good news was all about. I think we all need a good laugh :laugh:
The good laugh is on the Coffee Shop board under Last Laugh. The good news is that my carotid arteries are not blocked enough to require surgery, yet. Doesn't take much to make me happy.