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Title: How'd they do that?
Post by: flo on July 24, 2007, 11:55:42 AM
On the noon news they told about due to the flooding at Independence, raw sewage was being dumped into the Verdigris River and Rock Creek.  Residents were assured that the sewage was not affecting the drinking water but, and I quote, "animals are being warned not to drink from Rock Creek".
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Jo McDonald on July 24, 2007, 12:05:20 PM
Maybe I don't mind being with out drinking water after all.   lol lol lol
 That is a terrible thing to hear .  Yesterday when Fred and I came home from Howard, and crossed the dam here at ECSP..the odor was absoultely the worse thing you can imagine -- if I could identify it, that is the odor I would put here on the forum on the Worse Smell thread.
Honestly - we had the A/C on and it poured in that truck like we were driving in a tunnel of the "stuff".  It lasted for about 1/4 of a mile until we started up the next hill.  Then this morning while I was at the office working - there was another report over the scanner that was reporting a horrible odor on south 10th and 11th streets.
I hope the humans have as many smarts as the animals and DON'T DRINK THE WATER.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 24, 2007, 12:17:18 PM
 Hopefully the river water goes through a treatment plant before it heads into your water pipes. I wouldn't think any creature, human or otherwise should drink directly from the river. I expect that the fish are now polluted too. I suspect that was raw sewage you smelled. nasty. :P
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 24, 2007, 12:29:26 PM
Lawrence is also a town with a river that runs through it. That would be the Kansas, or the Kaw if you're a local. We are warned not to eat fish from the Kaw because of all the agricultural runoff upstream. I therefore do not eat fish from the Kaw, at least knowingly. One never knows exactly what my father-in-law is cooking.

There are a number of kinds of "agricultural run-off" and I'm pretty sure I don't want to ingest large quantities of any of them, no matter how acquired. Fortunately, there is indeed a water treatment plant between the river and us. I'm sure that the same is true in Elk County, but that doesn't make the river smell any better.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Jo McDonald on July 24, 2007, 12:31:02 PM
It was truly El-Stink-O
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 24, 2007, 12:49:02 PM
        Si, la agua residuales es maloliente!!
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 24, 2007, 12:54:03 PM
Not very many of the animals are going to be able to read that, Diane, unless they came up from Mexico. A lot of butterflies do that.

I don't want to lose track of Flo's original post. Maybe some of those signs that I see that make no sense at all to me are intended for the animals, in some kind of code. Or maybe they hired Dr, Doolittle to go out and have a talk with the fauna about the drinking water situation.

;D
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: flo on July 24, 2007, 01:37:07 PM
Dr. Doolittle, that's probably it.  Didn't think posting a sign NOTICE, DO NOT DRINK THIS WATER would make much of an impression on a thirsty cow.  ;D - and yes, Diane, all drinking water goes through a treatment plant.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Jo McDonald on July 24, 2007, 03:33:10 PM
Dr. Bombay  Dr. Bombay   CALLING DR. BOMBAY !!!
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Janet Harrington on July 24, 2007, 07:07:38 PM
OMG.  ROFLMAO.  I remember calling Dr. Bombay.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Joanna on July 24, 2007, 08:11:41 PM
Hurry, Hurry, Please come right away!

Me too!  Flo's post reminded me of an internet story ~ I'd consider it a joke,but have a couple friends that I could see doing this...
A city gal moved to the country and one day went in to the road & bridge department and asked them to move the deer crossing sign near her house.  She said that too many deer were getting hit by cars when they used that crossing.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 24, 2007, 08:21:20 PM
See, Frawg, critters DO read signs. Put 'em up near the river.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 24, 2007, 08:25:08 PM
Some signs are just weird. Like out by the airport, you see "Terminal Baggage." Who wants the doomed baggage? They must collect it out there.

;D
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Rudy Taylor on July 24, 2007, 09:13:34 PM
Uh, yes, this Dr. Bombay. Have I had any calls?
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 24, 2007, 09:16:30 PM
Wait a minute, fella, you're the wizard! You're supposed to already know if you've had any calls!
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: flo on July 25, 2007, 02:53:27 PM
This is the honest to gosh truth.  Marvin and I were leaving Yellowstone Park one morning and had to stop at a clearly marked crosswalk, because it was being used BY AN ELK ! I took a picture, but because I was facing the sun, it didn't turn out.  Now, you suppose he read the crosswalk sign before he crossed?  AND Joanna, bet you left out that the gal was "blonde" didn't you???  ;D
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 25, 2007, 02:59:31 PM
I don't think this sign was for the elk...

Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: flo on July 25, 2007, 03:01:15 PM
 ;D been there too, frawg - think that was in Utah, but there was nothing for more than 22 miles
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: frawin on July 25, 2007, 03:02:20 PM
Actually Diane, Howard's drinking water does not come from the River, it comes from the Howard (Polk Daniels Lake), and no river runs into the Howard lake and there are no sewage plants in the drainage area to the lake. Prior to the 1930s Howard did get their drinking water from the River in fact it was from the same River that runs into the Elk City Lake that Jodi was talking about. The Howard lake is the result of CCC or WPA programs. In my opinion the water supplied to rural areas is cleaner than the water supplied to the major metropolitan areas.
Frank
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 25, 2007, 03:06:07 PM
A lot of Wyoming is that way, too, Flo. Nothing just seems to go on forever.

I think that you're right about the water, Frank. The water in Lawrence is pretty good, but I don't spend a lot of time thinking about where it has been. On the other hand, though, the water in San Francisco is incredibly good. It comes from the Hetch-Hetchy Reservoir and is almost all melt-water.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: flo on July 25, 2007, 03:35:07 PM
when we travel our meal schedules are not that, scheduled.  We eat when we get hungry.  We were driving in Wyoming and I was looking at the map to see how far to the next town and it would be 15-20 miles, get there and there would be one, maybe two houses, that's it and this went on all day.  Think we finally got to eat when we stopped for the night. 
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 25, 2007, 03:45:51 PM
Several times, driving West through Wyoming, my stomach has given thanks for the very existence of Rock Springs. I'll bet I have eaten at that little chain steak house there four or five times, usually right before they closed.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 25, 2007, 04:09:47 PM
Thanks, Frank for the water information.  And since some of you have been talking about "out back of beyond," What is the population of Bullfrog County Nev.?, human I mean, not Frawg's cousins. 
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: W. Gray on July 25, 2007, 04:40:41 PM
I was thinking Polk Daniels lake was on Game Creek?
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 25, 2007, 06:41:49 PM
Looks like zero.

Wikipedia sez:

Bullfrog County was a short-lived county in the state of Nevada, United States, created by the Nevada Legislature in 1987 in an attempt to garner more state revenue from the potential creation of the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository. It was re-absorbed into Nye County in 1989. Bullfrog County consisted of a 144 square mile (373 km²) area around Yucca Mountain, completely enclosed by southern Nye County. Its county seat was the state capital, Carson City (although that city was not contained within its boundaries), and it had a population of 0.

The county's establishment was a response to plans by the United States federal government to give money to Nye County in exchange for building the very unpopular Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository there. This money would apparently have gone straight to the county government, bypassing the state government. Therefore, the state legislature declared the unpopulated area around the proposed nuclear waste site to be a new county, Bullfrog County. Because this new county had no population, any federal payments for placing the nuclear waste site there would go directly to the state treasury.

The establishment of the county was challenged by the government of Nye County, and the Nevada district court found it to be in violation of the state constitution because of its zero population size. In compliance, the Nevada state legislature abolished Bullfrog County in 1989, and the territory was absorbed back into Nye County.

Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 25, 2007, 06:48:50 PM
   Yup, that's it.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 25, 2007, 06:55:42 PM
W. Gray -

Take a look at:

http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lon=-96.2272&lat=37.4606 (http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lon=-96.2272&lat=37.4606)

and you will see that you are exactly right about Game Creek.

;)
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: flo on July 26, 2007, 01:33:25 PM
now that's a bit of information everyone needs. thanks
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 26, 2007, 03:29:16 PM
My wife is fairly sure that I am the king of useless information. I seem to remember mainly those things which are odd which no one is ever likely to ask me. It is by now, however, a habit of long standing and I don't want to stop.

;)
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Flintauqua on July 26, 2007, 05:03:59 PM
Being the geography freak that I am, I happen to know that the least populated county in the lower 48 is Loving County, Texas with a population of 64.  And Rand McNally doesn't even list the county seat of Mentone in the gazateer, but it is 23 miles north of Pecos and 29 miles west of Kermit.

(Yes Frawg, I said Kermit, though it's pretty dry for frogs out in the Texas Panhandle)
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 26, 2007, 05:32:47 PM
I have been to Kermit many times, Flintauqua. It's sort of nice being in a town named for you, even if you're the only one that knows. And I like to collect souvenirs there. I even have a football jersey with a hornet on it.

Did you know that Kermit was about halfway between Wink and Notrees?

Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: frawin on July 26, 2007, 06:24:22 PM
Kermit if you have been to Wink, Kermit, Notrees, Goldsmith and that area you no doubt remember how bad the water is. I have lived in West Texas for 27+ years and I have spent time in all of those areas including Loving County, Orla, Mentone, etc and the water is so bad I don't know how the people stand to drink it. By the way there are a lot more than 67 people in Loving County, they are just not US Citizens and are not counted in the census.
Title: Re: He'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 26, 2007, 06:45:37 PM
I consulted for Levi Strauss when they had factories all over Texas, then I lived in Austin for a year. I've been down there a fair amount. I don't particularly remember the water being bad in West Texas, but that may be because I've also spent time in New Mexico and the desert Southwest. I do remember part of those places where they sold bottled water in the motel offices, and there was a reason for that.

;)

ps - Do you remember a steakhouse out there somewhere where they claimed to have the biggest baked potatoes in the world? I remember the place but I don't remember where it was. Abilene, maybe, or Odessa?

pps - I had coffee today with a retired KU engineering professor who is from Marfa. He's selling some land...
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 26, 2007, 07:00:27 PM
 How about this?  What celebrity once said, while being interviewed, "I feel strongly that visual arts are of vast importance." "Of course, I could be prejudiced." "I am a visual art."
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 26, 2007, 07:05:30 PM
Ahem.

I believe that was Kermit the Frog.

;D
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 26, 2007, 07:21:48 PM
Bingo! You win a nice new blender.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Rudy Taylor on July 26, 2007, 07:22:34 PM
Watch where you step! 

Darn frawg.

There he is ... on the wall!
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 26, 2007, 07:34:55 PM
I have more often been described as "off the wall."

;)
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Rudy Taylor on July 27, 2007, 05:23:13 AM
You frogs don't cause warts, do you?  Naw, that's something else.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 27, 2007, 08:29:05 AM
 Did we ever determine what kind of frog "Frawg" is? You know, kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genius, species and all that? All we know is that he is green and well educated.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: flo on July 27, 2007, 08:30:28 AM
I think a tree frog so he can survey his kingdom from a bird's eye view and see what's going on
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Teresa on July 27, 2007, 08:58:29 AM
Speaking of frogs..and toads.. have you ever seen so many as there are tis year?
They are just everywhere!
The high water has just driven them out of every nook and cranny. I went to move a flower pot and there was 2 little toads inside.. peeking out at me.. I run in to grab my camera and when I came back out they had left. I must have scared the little things.
( I knew I should have put my make up on before I went outside )  ;D
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 27, 2007, 09:35:00 AM
I am indeed a tree frawg.

We had peepers real early this year, down in the ditch by the highway that runs by the house. Then it froze hard for several days and they were gone. But they were soon back with a vengeance and we have a lot of them, too. There is a herpetology (snakes, frogs, etc.) professor that comes into the coffee shop that I frequent who said the ones that came out first were the dumb ones. The ones that came out after the freeze were the smart ones, and the ones that came out a few weeks after that were the ones that were brilliant enough to take his classes.

Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 27, 2007, 10:03:05 AM
 See, natural selection does work. In a few hundred generations those progeny will be as smart as our own Kermit.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 27, 2007, 10:17:55 AM
I would hope that they would be considerably brighter than me. There are entire weeks during which it would be difficult to pick out my candle on a moonless night.

;)
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 27, 2007, 10:42:04 AM
  Well, I haven't seen the size of your candle. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 27, 2007, 11:29:14 AM
Women. Size, size, size.

< shaking head >

< muttering >

< wandering off >
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: flo on July 27, 2007, 12:07:32 PM
OMG  :o
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 27, 2007, 01:02:33 PM
 What, what?? Did I say something ?? ;) ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Jo McDonald on July 28, 2007, 02:10:49 PM
OOPS  Here we go again......Stand back everyone -- this might get  a little testy

   hahahahahahaha

    ROFLMAO
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Rudy Taylor on July 28, 2007, 04:27:19 PM
Candles big, candles small,
it's still the wick that burns so tall.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 28, 2007, 05:14:22 PM
Thank you, Rudy!

Hmmmmmppphhh!

;D
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 28, 2007, 06:40:20 PM
 Wicks should be kept trimmed to 1/4 inch..... Now frawg,
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 28, 2007, 06:41:10 PM
You keep your trimmers away from my wicks!

:angel: ;D :angel:
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Teresa on July 30, 2007, 09:00:02 AM
You have 2 wicks??!!  :o  :o
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 30, 2007, 09:35:47 AM
If Diane can have multiple trimmers, I can have multiple wicks.

;D
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 30, 2007, 10:10:21 AM
 Only one trimmer, but it's a biggie!
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 30, 2007, 10:32:47 AM
NTTO.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Flintauqua on July 30, 2007, 12:51:02 PM
Chat dictionary please:  NTTO=?
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Wilma on July 30, 2007, 12:54:47 PM
Would it be better if we don't know?
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: kdfrawg on July 30, 2007, 12:58:57 PM
Not Touching That One.
Title: Re: How'd they do that?
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 30, 2007, 01:05:37 PM
 Perhaps you remember John Wayne Bob-it?