First bridge east of Longton on 160 and the falls at Elk Falls at around 7 this morning. I've got about 6.5 inches at Elk Falls since Wednesday.
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Wonderful pictures. That is the way I like my high water. In pictures. My river is down this morning as it has stopped raining and the sun is trying to come out. I suppose you know that part of that water in Elk River is from my river. Should have sent out a rubber duckie.
That is truly some serious water. That's Wilma's water plus all of Wilma's neighbors water plus a whole lot more. That's starting to look like dangerous water.
:(
I'm getting ready to go out right now and video and take pictures. Kjell will be ready in 30 minutes and the boys are already out to the farm moving the wood pile at the TOP of the lake.
The water has never been higher.. I will have a video later on this day..
Supposed to have a 2-3 hour window of no rain and then it is supposed to start again and rain until tomorrow..
There are roads here that have never flooded that re closed. I have to drive through one to get to the farm that has about 2-3 ft of water over it... BUT... the news MUST be reported... and "Scoop Gunny" will get the news no matter what!
( ::) ohhhh brother... I am really out there this morning) ::)
See, I told you that we'd be calling you Gunny. ;o)
Teresa, be sure to get a picture of the farm ground around the Cookson Watershed. Marvin ck'd on his way home from pumping out my basement. Said their newly planted crops are under SEVERAL FEET of water. AND speaking of pumping out my basement, he got the drain to working again, but I just checked and another 1/2" in the rain gauge. I said this weather is only fit for ducks and fish. Ain't so sure even the ducks would like this.
The Cookson lake IS what we call "The Farm! lol
That is where I will be going... or where I have been.
Have all the pictures and I am starting to make the video'...
Stay tuned.. and it is unbelievable...!
I'm waiting patiently - and OMG as I type this I hear the rain again - maybe I'll go get a couple of cotton balls and put in my ears and pull the drapes so I can't see out
That's no fun. I was just wishing this broken venetian blind behind my computer would work so I could watch the water coming down. Nothing like a good storm when you don't have to be out in it.
sorry, Wilma, but this rain has CEASED to be fun
Just got back from Wichita - there is some serious water going around. Heard on the radio they had closed part of Hwy 400, between Neodesha and Fredonia.
The new pastor for the Methodist church has been trying to move over here from Belle Plaine this week. Had a trailer full of boxes yesterday that he never unloaded - too much rain. Went back to Belle Plaine this morning to get the rest of his stuff. Haven't heard from him, but it's a terrible time to be moving with all this rain.
And . . . speaking of rubber duckies:
QuoteShould have sent out a rubber duckie.
They have some, or will have some in England.
QuoteA flotilla of plastic ducks is heading for Britain's beaches, according to an American oceanographer.
For the past 15 years Curtis Ebbesmeyer has been tracking nearly 30,000 plastic bath toys that were released into the Pacific Ocean when a container was washed off a cargo ship.
Here's the link to the rest of the story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1996553.ece
I hope someone takes pictures of all that "trash" - should be quite a sight! :)
That, Mom70x7, is a marvelous story.
Thanks!
Quote from: Mom70x7 on June 29, 2007, 03:59:16 PM
Heard on the radio they had closed part of Hwy 400, between Neodesha and Fredonia.
Marty had to work in Independence today, and last I heard he was going to head home, through Cherryvale! Ugh! I looked on http://511.ksdot.org/kanroadpublic/Ksys/KRDefault.asp, (you click on "Southeast" under "routes in Kansas" on the left side of the page). It's the Kansas Dept of Transportation map, and it shows 160 closed from Moline to Independence, and 400 closed between Fredonia & Neodesha. I'll have to keep his supper warm!
PS: I loved the rubber duckie story too!
Channel 12 showed a picture of an Elk County country road sent to them by our own Devyn Weakley at the start of their 5:00 news this evening. Hope they show it again.
You can see the national weather services estimated rainfall at:
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/rfcshare/precip_analysis_new.php (http://www.srh.noaa.gov/rfcshare/precip_analysis_new.php)
It's showing 4 inches over most of Elk County and up to 6 inches just today!!
The week long and month long numbers are just plain scary!!
You can also see the Elk River flow rate and stage (height) at:
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?07169800 (http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?07169800)
The gage is located on the south side of the Hwy 160 bridge, you can notice it's antenna when you drive across the bridge.
I remember when O&B was still operating in Elk Falls, that they were the unofficial reporter of the height of the river. They would go down and count how many layers of stone were visible on the north bridge abutment (of the old bridge) and then pass that along to friends, neighbors, and fellow fishermen via phone and CB radio. Of course their method was a little different than the USGS' because a low number meant high water. For instance, zero stone meant the water was lapping at the bottom of the bridge. I've always wanted to try and correlate the "stone" readings with the official gage height. Someone is Elk Falls probably has, but I never have found that someone.
Going through USGS' historical water flow data, If I'm reading the charts correctly, the only three times the water has been this high at Elk Falls (in the past 39 years) was on 10/03/1986 and 06/22/1977 when it was just higher than is now, and on 07/03/1976 when it maxed out the gage.
Also, Elk City Reservoir is coming up fast, nine feet since 6:00 pm yesterday. You can track the lake level at:
http://www.swt-wc.usace.army.mil/ELKC.lakepage.html (http://www.swt-wc.usace.army.mil/ELKC.lakepage.html)
That reservoir has gone up six feet just today. If it doesn't stop pretty soon, you folks might want to start thinking about making plans for a really big boat.
Does anyone have Noah's cell phone number?
1-888-BIG-BOAT ;D
You're going to want to get out your cubit-sticks and that big book of instructions for telling the girl animals from the boy animals. Don't go anywhere without it.
;D
QuoteGoing through USGS' historical water flow data, If I'm reading the charts correctly, the only three times the water has been this high at Elk Falls (in the past 39 years) was on 10/03/1986 and 06/22/1977 when it was just higher than is now, and on 07/03/1976 when it maxed out the gage.
We lived just north of the Dam in 1986 - about 3 miles west of Sycamore. We had a LOT of water then. Our house sat on a slight hill in the property - not a real hill, just enough to keep the water out of the house. We were surrounded by the water, though. Had to park our car out on the road and wade to the house.
We lived on an intersection, the northwest corner. The only way to get into Independence was to go north for several miles, then back east to Highway 75. The other three roads were all flooded.
And in 1977, we lived in Bartlesville - the Caney flooded down there. Covered the park downtown and several businesses downtown. The water table was so high we had water coming UP through our floor drain. The cement basement floor cracked and we had water coming up through the cracks.
Memories.
Driving to and from El Dorado for work was not a problem as the highway was pretty much allowing the rain to get off the highway. It was better driving when I was the front car.
Anyway, saw lots and lots of water. The watershed north of Howard is the fullest I have ever seen it.
There is a small lake of some sort west of Beaumont north of the highway. The lake is always on both sides of the road. Most of the time, when it rains, the water goes over that county road. Well, let me tell you. A person cannot even see that there is a county road that divides that water. The small lake is so full it is headed towards the highway.
Salt Creek at Severy is the highest I have seen it since they took Dead Man's Curve out of the highway. Now, if we still had Dead Man's Curve, that highway would have been closed and Ralph Crane or Vernon Ludvickson, (both DOT men and fathers of two of my best friends), would have been standing out there with the truck and maybe allowing tall vehicles go across the bridge. Cars were not allowed. (Those were the days.)
I'll post one of Mother's pictures when I get the pixels trimmed.
I thought about you and your long drive several times today. You were certainly out there enough today to see what was going on with all that water. Thanks for the descriptions.
Dumped 5" of rain out of my gauge this morning and good mostly cloudy day until 8:30 tonight then it started to rain again and in the last hour we have 2.5 inches more and it is still raining hard. We need to get this rain shipped to desertlilydarla. I did find the article on the ducky's very interesting.
Janet's lake west of Beaumont is a watershed. That road was passable for a long time after the watershed was put in. However, there was a sign at the highway saying impassable in high water. Then the water never seemed to go down enough for it to be passable again.
Just got a report from father (Stub Durbin), he had dumped 11 inches out of his rain guage as of 9:00 pm and still raining. That's 11 plus since dark yesterday. Moline has water everywhere, though my sister Roberta is still OK at the west end of first street, though her neighbors to the north have water on three sides. A lot of people are out of their homes along west second and probably west third, as well as most folks north of the creek.
Elk River is still going up, two feet since 6:00 pm today and five feet since noon. I hope people have made it out of their homes. Going by numbers alone, this is the worst flooding since early July 1976 which has always been considered the "flood of record". And watching KOTV channel 6 Tulsa, they are projecting another 6-10 inches through Sunday night across all of Elk, Chautauqua, Montgomery and Wilson counties.
There were many rescues from roof tops in 1976, let's hope that doesn't happen this time!!!
And, I hope the Corps tells the Independence Zoo when they open the gates on Elk City Reservoir this time so they don't lose the animals in the low parts of the park like they did in 1976.
Kake-tv, channel 10 out of Wichita, said we've had 18 inches of rain so far, in the last 36 hours. And rain is forecast for the next two days. :(
I had started to use the :'( - but didn't want to add to the water levels. :laugh: :laugh:
I'm really starting to get worried about you folks that are down fairly low. There's obviously only so much rain that an area will take before it starts to cause real problems. Most of Elk County has to be very close to that point. Worse, they seem to be extending the length of time that it is going to rain.
I have my little frawgy fingers crossed for all of you.
kdfrawg, we may have to get some boats together and start picking up the local's from Howard and take them to higher ground. I just got off the phone with my sister in Elk Falls, she said the water now flowing around the concrete bridge into the fields just past the falls. And to the west of her going toward Howard and Moline the roads are also flood. She said Elk Falls is like an Island. My other sister went to Sedan this morning and can't seem to get back Elk Falls. Hopefully the rain will stop or easy up soon. I hear people are having to leave their homes in the west side of Moline.
It looks to me like Howard is a little higher than Elk Falls, in terms of feet-above-the-water. Both Elk Falls and Moline look like they would be flood-prone, just from the elevations off the Google Earth contours. Elk Falls is on a little "plateau" but it is not many feet from the water to the top, so it's island-like nature is not a lot of comfort. The radar on the National Weather Service site looks like they are all going to get some relief in a couple of hours, but then it is likely to start back up by morning.
I wonder where a body can get a cruise ship on short notice?
;D
All I have is an old tub of a boat that will hold about 8 people , but I live to far away. I should pull it out there my next trip out, just in case they need it for the next go round. When it does rain here, I like to bake bread or pie's ....it's to bad it didn't rain here today when i burn't my mickey mouse cake for my grandson's 1 st birthday. The rain would have smelled better then the cake. But I did bake another one... turned out just find.
At 2:00 this morning when the electricity went off, it had stopped raining enough that my river was down and the sidewalk was clear. I now have 4 1/2 inches in the rain gauge, making a total of 14 1/2 inches since Sunday. Radar looks as if no heavy rain for a few hours. What with the electric off till 5:00 and the fire siren going off at 5:30, I am short a few hours sleep. At my age, anything will do as an excuse for not sleeping in bed at night. No problem in front of the TV or trying to read. The fire according to Janet was Zimmerman's Funeral Home. I am waiting for her to find out more about it. I am sure she will report to all of us when she does.
the smoke from the funeral home has lessened and is white now instead of black so I think they have got it beat--I hope
Here is a picture of yesterday's water in front of Mother's house.
Quote from: Wilma on June 29, 2007, 04:39:47 PM
Channel 12 showed a picture of an Elk County country road sent to them by our own Devyn Weakley at the start of their 5:00 news this evening. Hope they show it again.
Maybe Devyn Weakley will share with us the pictures she has taken of this high water.
We can all thank the good Lord that we don't live along Fall River and the Verdigris rivers. Evacuations in Elk County are bad enough without that. A guy said this morning that last summer everyone was praying for rain and he figures EVERYBODY'S prayers were answered at the same time. Ch. 12 finally caught up with the right amount of rain we're getting - over 16" in last 24 hrs. About what I have had, but can't tell exactly because my rain gauge ran over twice, but close enough and I say we've had plenty to last awhile, so how bout stopping it now. Marvin was unable to get home last night, but this morning made it by going zig zag and driving thru high water that his pasture jumper could make. Guess I won't worry about watering the outside plants today. ;D :angel:
Over here at the Elk City Lake --- we are REALLY high the two campgrounds at the south west end have had to be evacuated - they started late last night and thenagain at 6 this Morning. Fred and I went over to the dam and the Neosho River is backed up clear up to the flood gates --- and still rising -- the highway into Independence is under water for about 1/2 mile and the Corp of Engineers said that they expect the water to be over the spillway by tomorrow --- I honestly don't know where all the RVs will go --- there are no other campgrounds around here that are not already full. I felt very sure that we were up here at the gatehouse and high enough to be safe --- but I'm not postivitly sure of that at this time.... Just hope so. We have dumped 14" of rain from our gague last night - which was from 3 days and then from 5 PM yesterday until 6:30 this morning another 7. I do pray that Lloyd Zimmerman was not injured badly. Stay safe everyone.
I talked to my sister (Teresa) and they have been stranded at Jeff and Lindsey Wisemans all night long. Danny, Ashley, Derek, Mark and Teresa are out there...Rochelle and Mason are in town at their home and Teri is in Wichita. Sis said that they water is so high...you can only see tree tops at the farm and all bridges are out...they can't get anywhere. Derek says if if will just stop for a couple hours he thinks they can get home. Hopefully that will be soon, but all of them are safe.
Talking to Richard Clark at Toot's today, he says he has poured out 20 inches of rain from his gauge since Thursday morning. Now, I don't know if that is here in Howard or northeast of Howard at his farm. His gauges are the highest I have heard so far.
Back home!
Man! What a night!
I have never in all of my born days seen water and rain like it was.
I have miles of footage and lots of pictures.
I also will do right quick a slideshow of Zimmerman's.
We got back in town this morning ( had to drive through about 3 foot of water at the north end of the country) about 9:30 and stopped and took pics of the fire.
Will have lots to post.. but may go out this afternoon and check some other places..
But rest assured.. you all will get to see some "stuff".
Water Over Elk Falls Bridge Yesterday Evening
Hi friends and neighbors,
Terrell and I had planned to be at Harmony this weekend to finish our party clean-up and just enjoy being there without a deadline. We received a last-minute invite to a birthday party for Friday night (which was a great time!) and decided to stay in Wichita and tend to some much-neglected housework. T must have enjoyed shampooing carpet at Harmony so much, he's decided to do it here, too! LOL
Anyway, we're enduring the nonstop sky-leak here as well, though our thoughts and prayers are with Elk County folks who are getting far more rain. In the back of my mind I'm wondering how Harmony's basement is, whether we'll find an indoor pool when we arrive there Tuesday evening. No sense in worrying as it accomplishes nothing and only makes for a stressful existence. I would have to agree with a previous post that said everyone prayed last summer for an end to the drought...well, it doesn't seem like we'll have that issue this year. This is a case, however, of too much of a good thing.
Great picture of the Elk Falls Bridge.!
Tried to get to town this morning, but had to turn around several times! Cookson's lake borders Billy's parents house and we couldn't get through. We could barely see the top of the gate to the watershed. Billy said he'd never seen it like that before! So we turned around and went back north. There was still water over our road (Road 14) in front of our house. And parts of Cresco (Rock road) were underwater but passable. The soybean field across from our house looked like a lake last night. The beans were just planted Monday. It's frustrating, it about makes me want to cry when I hear it start raining again! Dan Miller's hay field north and east of his house was underwater and the current carried away some of the large round bales! I've heard on the scanner that they've been looking for alternate routes all over the place.
I'll get my pictures on here as soon as I can. This is the first I have been able to connect to the internet, as I have dial up and our phone line has been underwater and all messed up!!!
My guage says we've gotten over 20 inches, not including what's falling right now.
That would probably be the beans the ranch had planted. Marvin said when he ck'd them they were under about 6' of water. :(
My thoughts and prayers are with all of you in Elk County. Everytime I leave the house and come back, I check into the site to see the latest and who is able to check in. I can't imagine what this must be like for all of you. I was 6 when we had the 51 flood in Chanute, KS and still remember that.
Flo, I know there is an RV Campground on South Fe in Chanute, but don't know of course whether that is at all practical for you guys or even if the roads would be open to get there. I can't find a phone number for it in my Chanute phone book, but it is a few years old. There is a list for RV Hookups in that area in the front of that phone book for Chanute, Iola, Erie, Yates Center. If you need those addresses let me know. There aren't any phone numbers.
romaj, I've heard the Neosho River is at flood stage as well. Allthough I lived in Chanute for a year and am familiar with the RV campground you mention, I'm not sure how close it is to the river. I would imagine the towns to the north that you mentioned might be the better options.
I don't about the towns to the North such as Chanute, but here Independence we can only go south on Highway 75 the others are closed due to high water. Attaching two pictures the first is just south of the 75 & 400 junction and the second is just east of Independence.
I keep looking at the radar and the forecasts for the area down there and keep seeing more rain in your futures, maybe for another day and a half. I just hope that you can all stay safe and well until this mess is over.
But . . .
We are NOT a disaster:
Governor declares disaster in 12 counties
BY BRENT D. WISTROM
The Wichita Eagle
Gov. Kathleen Sebelius declared a state of disaster emergency today for 12 counties in southeast and south-central Kansas, where many people have been evacuated and thousands are without electricity.
The counties included in the state declaration are Anderson, Butler, Bourbon, Coffey, Cowley, Chautaqua, Linn, Montgomery, Neosho, Osage, Wilson and Woodson.
See . . . not Elk County. :D
Here's the rest of the story:
http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/111000.html
Quote from: Ole Granny on June 30, 2007, 11:52:50 AM
Water Over Elk Falls Bridge Yesterday Evening
I believe that picture of water over the bridge at Elk Falls would be "negative stone" I can't remember anyone ever talking about water being over that bridge in the past. And that's yesterday evening at a gage height of 21 or 22 ft. The river finally crested (for now) at 28ft at 9:00 this morning. I hope the bridge is still there!
Someone needs to get ahold of Sen. Derrick Schmidt in Independence and ask him why the Governor didn't include Elk County in her disaster declaration. Maybe if she knew that the only way into Flint Oak right now was by chopper or boat, she'd realize there's a problem!! >:( :P ::)
I'm going to e-mail my childhood friend, Sydney Carlin she is either a Senator or Representative and see if she can find out why you guys are not on the list. I'll let you know if I hear anything.
I hear that 400 is closed between Pickrell Corner and Greenwood County line.
Here is a picture of Elk River looking east that Mother took today when I took her for a ride to see the water and the results of the fire.
That is surely a photo of mainly river and no bank at all. The photos that you all have taken of these disastrous last few days have made it very easy to feel like one is there, even though one is not. I think you ought to form the Elk County News Team.
It's still getting worse, at some point in time between 9 and 10 tonight, Elk City Lake filled. I don't know if it's just gate releases, or going through the spillway also, but the Verdigris River gage at Independence jumped from 40.5 feet at 9:00 to 51.5 feet at 10:00. That's four feet higher than the record stage for the Verdigris at Independence. (The gage is on the US 160 bridge just east of Indy)
A friend e-mailed me tonight and said she had heard they were going to open the gates at Fall River and at Toronto dam tomorrow.
I hear that Neodesha is completly surrounded and no electricity. The hospital is running on generators. Chanute where I grew up is having some flooding and have evacuated some businesses and I assume some homes at the east end of town. The Santa Fe Lake in the south part of town, next to the RV park, was closed today and the water spillway was
really running. I haven't out if it has gone over the road. But definitely will be thinking about of all of you tonight. Be safe.
Here is a few pictures that Alica Corle sent to my sister..and she sent them on to me to put on here of the Elk Falls Bridge.
I know I know.,. I wanted to be in bed, but I thought I would get these downsized and put on here real fast so you all could see.
Here is 2 more of the Elk Falls Bridge.
I have never seen the water this high before.
Here is one of the highway that leads into Elk Falls.
and one of the swinging Bridge in Moline.
NOW.. I'm going to bed!
I got this in an e-mail -
We are trying to contact anybody in the Flint Hills Express coverage area to send us possible flooding pictures for use in this week's newspaper. Depending on how many we receive, I can't guarantee that we'll be able to use what you send, but we are in need of pictures from that area and can't get there from here. If you are able to snap a few pictures or know of someone who can, please send them to us via email.
Be sure to include the photo credit ("Photo by xxxxxxx") so we can use that too. We appreciate any help that you may be able to give us! I'm also going to include my cell phone number if you need to reach me by phone but I'll also be on email as much as possible.
Jenny Diveley
Taylor Newspapers
620-330-7828
The e-mail address is <taylornews@sbcglobal.net>
Ms. T,
Send them people Alicia's pictures. Do it. Do it now. :police: :police: :police:
(That's my law enforcement voice).
I don't know if they have pictures of Zimmerman's. ???
I assume they don't, since her e-mail said they couldn't get up here.
I gave her the Forum address and STRONGLY recommended they join (sorry, I don't have a law enforcement voice ;)).
I can send pictures of the fire. I'll do that now.
Mom 70x7:
Did you recognize that sheriff voice earlier this morning behind you when she was singing, "This Land is Your Land?" Why do you think I followed suit? I was commanded to..........When you're standing next to someone in Law Enforcement and they give you the eye......well, you get the picture.(Janet, I think we should take our show on the road---you show them and I'll follow)
Ys gads........
The high water has got to everyone ...
::)
emptynest,
I am with you. Take our show on the road. We would sure show people just what we are made of, now wouldn't we. ha ha More Ms. T. I can just see her shaking her head wondering why she has created such monsters that get on this forum.
Me and emptynest. The duo choir singers. We can do a show out your church anytime. Free of charge. We do it because we like to do it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
And I guess it HAS to be emptynest you sing with. I heard you singing today with someone else and you guys were told to hush. :) ;D :)
At least you know who your best singing partner is. :) :D ;D ::)
PS - I was singing then also, and was also told to hush, and I obeyed. Our Law Enforcement representative and the other singer did NOT.
well, spent some time touring the "high water" district yesterday afternoon and took some pic. but unfortunately have not figured out how to post them here. They are not a lot different than what everyone else has, however. I do have a pic. of Teresa's firewood piled in the middle of what used to be a road (think it was from Cookson's farm, anyhow). Sure a lot of water out there, and the overflow from Schofield's watershed, and all the other little creeks and tributaries that are now torrent rivers - Marvin gave me the grand tour and the sky over Howard from out on the hill was awesome. Got a pic of that too.
Hi,
Thanks so much for posting about the floods. I've been trying to find out how Independence is doing.
We have some flooding here in Bartlesville, I guess, but I think the worst is in Dewey (just north of B'ville).
Has anybody heard about Hickory Creek? My guess would be it's all a mess back in there too. There was a pond on my Granddad's old place, it's probably a mess.
Is Longton ok, does anyone know?
Thanks.
Ritagail
I think Longton is fine. They just can't go east. Coffeyville is probably the worst for this area. It always is. They catch all of our water and it causes havoc for them.
I believe that vehicles can go from Moline to Elk Falls, but are unable to go on east from there.
We were told by Joe out at P & J's that people from Fredonia are driving to Howard via Busby and getting gas, etc. Fredonia and Neodesha are the towns to be concerned about. No electricity. High water. Can't do anything. That would be awful. Kind of like the ice storm.
Thanks. I still haven't heard anything from relatives in Independence.
Coffeyville is really going to need a lot of support.....they said on the news that the water is mixed with the oil from the refinery.
I do our church bulletin, so I'm going to run another "ad" in there about contributing to the Red Cross.
In case you don't know, you can designate where you want your funds to go when you give to the Red Cross. You just need to tell them.
Quote from: Mom70x7 on July 01, 2007, 05:18:52 PM
And I guess it HAS to be emptynest you sing with. I heard you singing today with someone else and you guys were told to hush. :) ;D :)
At least you know who your best singing partner is. :) :D ;D ::)
PS - I was singing then also, and was also told to hush, and I obeyed. Our Law Enforcement representative and the other singer did NOT.
Well, in case you haven't noticed, I'm not much on obeying anyone when I am having a good time. ;D ;D ;D ;D
You can get from Moline to Elk Falls, and from what I hear from some of the people in Longton this evening is that some of the outer skirts and country people do not have electricity or phone service.
After hearing a very emotional plea and much discussion this morning from several farmers, it has been suggested that we contact our senators/representatives/govenor to reconsider having Elk County declared a disaster area. So much has been lost that without be able to receive additional state aid, many of local farmers will be taking a big hit. Since every county around us was declared one, and we were in the flood warning right along with them, it only seems reasonable. I will try to get more information on this process and relay it on here.
Janet,
I am thinking that maybe we should go ahead and get an agent. It seems we might be getting some publicity and we definitely don't need things to get out of hand--where we're concerned, because we both are out of hand as it is. What'd'ya think?
That's probably a good idea. We definately don't want to end up being like Paris Hilton and some of those other out of control young famous females.
I'll see if I can find anyone that could be our agent while I'm at work tomorrow. LOL
I heard some place on TV this evening that we are included in the disaster area. So is Greenwood, Butler and Cowley. I especially noticed it since we hadn't been included before.
Why don't you two just sort of hide in the bushes and ride this thing out???? Surely Paris and her cohorts will take up the slack and you two can just go on beig you lovable - happy go lucky -- unsung singers and it will all pass......What do you say ??? Is it worth a try??? I remember one time -- that Emptynest and my youngest daughter got the uncontrolable giggles at a function at eh Howard Grade School auditorium -- and I really thought they might end up as "Noted - something or others" but that faded away as well. Soooooooo hang tight girls -- you will make it quietly into the shadows and enjoy yourselves without the press getting word of it.
Jo, your younger daughter and I got the giggles several times throughout our school days---to the point of "out of control." Such memories.
Janet---as far as checking at work tomorrow for an agent......are we talking orange uniform and ankle cuffs or possibly putting our talent and career on hold until the year 2037 when they are released?
I mean, since some of them know your age and want to come home with you anyway......we might be able to work something out.
Quote from: flo on July 01, 2007, 05:39:15 PM
well, spent some time touring the "high water" district yesterday afternoon and took some pic. but unfortunately have not figured out how to post them here.
They are not a lot different than what everyone else has, however.
I do have a pic. of Teresa's firewood piled in the middle of what used to be a road (think it was from Cookson's farm, anyhow). Sure a lot of water out there, and the overflow from Schofield's watershed, and all the other little creeks and tributaries that are now torrent rivers -
Marvin gave me the grand tour and the sky over Howard from out on the hill was awesome.
Got a pic of that too.
Flo sent me the pics... and here they are.. They are good ones and the sky one is really what it looked like!!
I'll do 3 here and 3 more in next post!
Last 3 of Flo's pics. Remember to click on the picture to make them bigger :D
Thanks flo for sharing them.
I always wondered what the inside of a county road looked like. Now I know. What a terrible thing.
Just think about what Wilson County, Montgomery County, and all those other counties are going through.
Someone lost their winter fire wood and now will be cold this winter.
I believe the road needs some repairs before it is usable.
that road washout was on Rd 12 just a few yards south of Oxen. If you look close on the left side, between some fence posts, there is a white spot - that is the culvert that washed out. The fire wood is on, I think, Quail. Correct me if I'm wrong, Teresa.
Quote from: emptynest on July 01, 2007, 08:53:38 PM
Janet,
I am thinking that maybe we should go ahead and get an agent. It seems we might be getting some publicity and we definitely don't need things to get out of hand--where we're concerned, because we both are out of hand as it is. What'd'ya think?
I'm still looking for a job, just how much of a percentage are you willing to give and severence pay in case you don't get famous??????
Teresa, I thought that fire wood came from your place?
Well it probably did~!!! :-\
as our huge wood pile is floating everywhere~
but the county boys cleaned out and cut lots of the trees down that was in the ditches, and they left the wood laying in piles.. so it might be part of that too..
We have stuff all over the place at the "farm".
Out sh.................errrrr......ahhhh... outhouse ... is floating somewhere at the top of the farm..
( a place that we swore would NEVER flood) still in 6 ft of water! :o
It will be a while before it is "camp-able "
( I am going to work on a video .. IF I can find about 5 hours that isn't slotted for something else)
sighhhh :P
Jo -
The Wichita Eagle today talked about your park:.
Here's the story: http://www.kansas.com/sports/story/122535.html
One of the quotes from the article - QuoteAt the peak of flood waters, only about 30 of Elk City State Park's 860 acres were above water.
We used to live just north of the dam and would frequently drive through the park, so I know the area well. That's a lot of water!
Yes, it was a lot of water, in the 20 plus years I have lived here it was at least three feet higher than in was in October of 1986. It was something to see the water running over the uncontrolled spillway by over 4 feet. The article was interesting but included a pitch for additional funding to me.
That was a good article -- and Yes it did mention that there is needed funding -- and when you see all the work that is still to be done, the budget probably will be Very Shy of what is actually needed.
Seems strange that the officials can afford to fly over in the helicopter - but they
can't afford any extra funds for the needed reconstruction that will have to be done to bring it back up to spec.
Seems to me they could maybe find some alternate means of determining the needs of the flood victims.