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General Category => Politics => Topic started by: frawin on January 17, 2013, 02:35:07 PM

Title: Maybe this is The real reason Obama wants to take control of our Guns
Post by: frawin on January 17, 2013, 02:35:07 PM
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States."

--Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 1787
Title: Re: Maybe this is The real reason Obama wants to take control of our Guns
Post by: Warph on January 18, 2013, 08:39:27 AM
Quote from: frawin on January 17, 2013, 02:35:07 PM
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States."

--Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 1787



This Obuma already knows:
1)  The "whole body of the people" are NO longer armed.  Those who are not armed, fail to see the need.  It takes an armed citizen who IS NOT dependant upon the tyrant for handouts to stand up for what they believe to be right.  That is dwindling... with people counting on food stamps... welfare recips on the dole... the younger generation clueless to what is happening and don't really care... liberal media... etc; etc;...  Obuma knows this.


2)  Unjust laws ARE being enforced without the people rising up and Obamacare is an example.  Although there was a huge resistance, the bill was passed against the will of the people.  Obuma knows this.


3)  In a country of 310 million people, the NRA has only a 4.5 million membership.  Obuma knows this.


4)  Today's army is so technologically advanced that we probably could not stand against them in the long run.  Of course, many in the army would refuse to fire on their own people and many would stand w/the people.  But.....frankly, even the thought of it is so frightening my mind chooses not to go there.  Obuma knows this.


5)  The way things are going, we'll wind up like Sweden... relying on big government.... no guns and everyone on the dole.  Obuma wants this.
Title: Re: Maybe this is The real reason Obama wants to take control of our Guns
Post by: Varmit on January 18, 2013, 03:28:55 PM
Just a few counter-points here warph, and I am not trying to start an argument but...

Its not just the younger people that are clueless as to what is going on.  Afterall, it is the older generations that have allowed our government to become what it is today. 

Also, as to standing up against the military, don't underestimate the average person, espcailly in large groups.  How long as al queda been facing off with the u.s. military and doing a pretty good job of it?