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Fox News _ CHICAGO –  Chicago has logged its 500th homicide of 2012.
The last time the city reached the 500-homicide mark was in 2008, when the year ended with 512 killings. Last year, city records show Chicago had 435 homicides.

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The cesspool known as Chicago probably has the toughest gun laws in the country, yet despite all the shootings, murders, and bloodshed, you never hear a peep about this from the corrupt state run media. In Chicago, there have been 446 school age children shot in leftist utopia run by Rahm Emanuel and that produced Obama, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, etc.

62 school aged children have actually been killed by crazed nuts in Chicago so far this year with almost two weeks to go.

So why isn't this news worthy? Is it because it would embarrass those anti-second amendment nuts who brag about Chicago's tough gun laws? Is it because most of the kids who were shot and killed were minorities? Or is it because the corrupt media doesn't want to show Chicago in a bad light? Amazingly, no Obama crocodile tears either.

For those of you too dense to get the point of this post, it's to make the point about gun laws. No matter how tough the gun laws are, the crazed, nut jobs will find a way to get them and if they so choose, use them. No draconian law can stop this, no matter how well intentioned the law is, or if it's just about leftists grabbing power from citizens and taking away their constitutional rights.

Violence, gangs scar Chicago community in 2012

Sharon Cohen, AP National Writer - December 29, 2012


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CHICAGO (AP) — It was February, the middle of lunch hour on a busy South Side street. The gunman approached his victim in a White Castle parking lot, shot him in the head, then fled down an alley.

The next month, one block away, also on West 79th Street: Two men in hooded sweatshirts opened fire at the Bishop Golden convenience store. They killed one young man and wounded five others, including a nephew of basketball superstar Dwyane Wade. The shooters got away in a silver SUV.

In July, a Saturday night, two men were walking on 79th when they were approached by a man who killed one and injured the other. This shooting resulted in a quick arrest; police had a witness, and a security camera caught the shooting.

These three violent snapshots of a single Chicago street are not exceptional. It's been a bloody year in the nation's third-largest city.

A spike in murders and shootings — much of it gang-related — shocked Chicagoans, spurred new crime-fighting strategies and left indelible images: Mayor Rahm Emanuel voicing outrage about gang crossfire that killed a 7-year-old named Heaven selling candy in her front yard. Panicked mourners scrambling as shots ring out on the church steps at a funeral for a reputed gang leader. Girls wearing red high school basketball uniforms, filing by the casket of a 16-year-old teammate shot on her porch.

A handful of neighborhoods were especially hard hit, among them Auburn-Gresham; the police district's 43 homicides (as of Dec. 21) ranked highest in the city, and represent an increase of about 20 percent over 2011. The outbreak, fueled partly by feuds among rival factions of Chicago's largest gang, the Gangster Disciples, rippled along 79th street, the main commercial drag. That single corridor offers a window into the wider mayhem that claimed lives, shattered families and left authorities scrambling for answers.

The scars aren't obvious, at first. Drive down West 79th and there's Salaam, a pristine white building of Islamic design, and The Final Call, the restaurant and newspaper operated by the Nation of Islam. Leo Catholic High School for young men. A health clinic. A beauty supply store. Around the corners, neat brick bungalows and block club signs warning: "No Littering. No Loitering. No Loud Music."

Look closer, though, and there are signs of distress and fear: Boarded-up storefronts. Heavy security gates on barber shops and food marts. Thick partitions separating cash registers from customers at the Jamaican jerk and fish joints. Police cars watching kids board city buses at the end of the school day.

Go a few blocks south of 79th to a food market where a sign bears a hand-scrawled message: "R.I.P. We Love You Eli," honoring a clerk killed in November in an apparent robbery. Or a block north to the front lawn of St. Sabina church where photos were added this year to a glass-enclosed memorial for young victims of deadly violence over the years.

Then go back to a corner of 79th, across the street and down the block from where two killings occurred, both gang-related.

There, in an empty lot, a wooden cross stands tall in the winter night. Painted in red is a plea:

"STOP SHOOTING."

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A lone cross stands in a vacant lot on the corner of 79th and Loomis
in the Auburn-Gresham neighborhood on Chicago's South Side.
(Photo: Charles Rex Arbogast, AP)

THE TOLL
Chicago's murder count reached 500 last Friday — the first time since 2008 it hit that mark. In 2011, there were 435 homicides. More than 2,400 shootings have occurred. Gang-related arrests are about 7,000 higher than in 2011.

Gang violence isn't new, but it became a major theme in the Chicago narrative this year.

Maybe it was because of the audacity of gang members posting YouTube videos in which they flashed wads of cash and guns. The sight of police brandishing automatic weapons, standing watch outside gang funerals. The sting of one more smiling young face on a funeral program. Or dramatic headlines in spring and summer, such as: "13 people shot in Chicago in 30-minute period."

It was alarming enough for President Obama to mention it during the campaign, noting murders near his South Side home. Then, addressing gun violence in the aftermath of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting, he cited Chicago again.

As grim as it is, Chicago's murder rate was almost double in the early 1990s — averaging around 900 — before violent crime began dropping in cities across America. This year's increase, though, is a sharp contrast to New York, where homicides fell 21 percent from 2011, as of early December.

Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy says while murders and shootings are up, overall crime citywide is down about 9 percent. He says crime-fighting strategies against gangs — some just put into place this year — are working, but they take time.

"The city didn't get in this shape overnight," he says. "I think that we're doing ourselves a disservice by advertising a Vietnam-type body count. I've got to tell you when I speak to people ... they generally say, 'You know what? We don't even hear that anymore. It's white noise.'... The fascination unfortunately seems to be in the media and it's become a national obsession."

After the 500th homicide was reported, McCarthy released a statement saying the pace of violent crime had slowed since early 2012. Murders skyrocketed 66 percent in the first quarter of the year over the same period in 2011; by the fourth quarter, the increase had dropped to 15 percent, he said. For shootings, it was a 40 percent hike in the first quarter and 11 percent in the last quarter compared with 2011. The superintendent called the numbers "great progress."

Up to 80 percent of Chicago's murders and shootings are gang-related, according to police. By one estimate, the city has almost 70,000 gang members. A police audit last spring identified 59 gangs and 625 factions; most are on the South and West sides.

Gangs in Chicago have a long, dangerous history, some operating with the sophistication and hierarchy of corporations. In the 1980s, the leaders of the El Rukns were convicted of conspiring in a terrorism-for-hire scheme designed to collect millions from the Libyan government. Before the feds took down the leadership of the Gangster Disciples in the 1990s, the group had its own clothing line and political arm.

Nowadays, gangs are less structured and disputes more personal, says Eric Carter, commander of the Gresham district, home to 11 factions of the Gangster Disciples. "It's strictly who can help me make money," he says. "Lines have become blurred and alliances have become very fragile."

Carter says a gang narcotics dispute that started about six years ago is at the root of a lot of violence in his district.

Another change among gangs is the widespread use of YouTube, Facebook and other social media to taunt one another and spread incendiary messages. "One insult thrown on Facebook and Twitter becomes the next potential for a shooting incident on the street," Carter says.

McCarthy, who has consulted with criminologists, has implemented several plans, including an audit that identifies every gang member and establishing a long-term police presence in heavy drug-dealing areas, aimed at drying up business.

In two districts, police also have partnered controversially with CeaseFire Illinois, an anti-violence group that has hired convicted felons, including former gang members, to mediate street conflicts. McCarthy, who has expressed reservations about the organization, is taking a wait-and-see attitude.

"It's a work in progress," he says. "It hasn't shown a lot of success yet."

AMONG THE DEAD
An 18-year-old walking on a sidewalk. A 36-year-old at a backyard party. A 28-year-old in a car two blocks from the police station. A 40-year-old convenience store clerk, on the job just two months.

In a storefront on 79th, Curtis Toler has a map of the street and surrounding area with 10 stick pins. Each represents a homicide in 2012.

Toler, a former gang member, spent much of his life causing chaos. Now, he's preaching calm. As a supervisor at CeaseFire, his job is to ease tensions and defuse disputes before they explode.

Violence, he says, has become so commonplace, people are desensitized to death.

"I don't think we take it as hard as we should," he says. "When someone gets killed, there should be an uproar. But the ambulance comes, scoops them up, nobody says anything and it's back to business."

Toler's own life was shaped by guns and drugs. "In the early '90s, I was going to funerals back to back to back," he says. "When you're out there, you think you pretty much got it coming. It's a kill-or-be-killed mentality."

As he tells it, he was in a gang (in another neighborhood) from ages 9 to 30, including a six-year prison stint for involuntary manslaughter. He was shot six times, he says; he lifts a gray stocking cap pulled low over his head and presses a thumb over his right eyebrow to show the spot where a bullet struck. "I was blessed" to survive, he says, with a gap-toothed smile.

He was once so notorious, Toler says, that one day about a decade ago his grandmother returned from a community policing gathering and began crying. "She said, 'The whole meeting was about you. ... You and your friends are destroying the whole community. ... You're my grandson, but they're talking about you like you're an animal.'"

Now a 35-year-old father of four, Toler says he decided to go straight about five years ago. He knows some police don't believe his transformation. He regrets things he's done, he says, and for a time had trouble sleeping. "Life has its way of getting back at you one way or another," he says. "I believe in the law of reciprocity."

Toler's message to a new generation on the streets: I keep asking them,' What's the net worth on your life? There is no price.... You only get one. It's not a video game.'"

"You get some guys who listen," Toler says, "and some who really don't care. ... They say, 'I'm going to die anyway.'"

Two blocks east in another storefront on 79th, Carlos Nelson works to bring a different kind of stability to Gresham.

As head of the Greater Auburn Gresham Development Corp., he lures businesses to a community that despite its problems, has well-established merchants and middle-class residents who've lived here for decades.

But Nelson, a 49-year-old engineering graduate raised in Gresham, sees changes since he was a kid, most notably the easy access to guns. "These aren't six-shooters," he says. "These are automatic weapons."

Police say they've seized more than 7,000 guns in arrests this year. Strict gun control measures in Chicago and Illinois have been tossed out by federal courts, most recently the state ban on carrying concealed weapons.

Nelson says he sees limited progress despite new crime-fighting approaches. "The Chicago police department is a lot like a rat on a wheel," he says. "They're getting nowhere. They put metal detectors in the schools but they don't put that same amount of money in to educate our kids."

But Nelson also believes the problem goes beyond policing. A cultural shift is needed, he says, to break the cycle of generations of young men seeing no options.

"It's almost like the walking dead," he says. "They're emotionless about shootings or death or drugs. They think that's all that's expected of them ... that they will die or end up in jail. That's a hell of an existence. That's truly sad."

AMONG THE LIVING
A 17-year-old hit in the leg, wrist and foot while in a park. A 13-year-old struck in the back while riding his bicycle, A 38-year-old shot in the face while driving.

Cerria McComb tried to run when the bullet exploded in her leg, but she didn't get far.

Someone heard her screams, her mother says, and rushed outside to help her make a call.

"Mommy, mommy, I've been shot!" Cerria cried into the phone.

Bobbie McComb ran six blocks, her husband outpacing her. "I'm panicking," she recalls. "I can't catch my breath. All I could think of was I didn't want it to be the last time I heard her voice, the last time I saw her."

Cerria and a 14-year-old male friend were wounded. The bullet lodged just an inch from an artery in the back of Cerria's right knee, according to her mother, who says her daughter is afraid to go out since the early December shooting.

Police questioned a reputed gang member they believe was the intended target; Cerria, they say, just happened to be in the wrong place.

"I'm angry," McComb says. "I'm frustrated. I'm tired of them shooting our kids, killing our kids, thinking they can get away with it. ... If it was my son or my daughter standing out there with a gun, I would call the police on them."

A few blocks west, on 78th Place, another mother, Pam Bosley, sits at the youth center of St. Sabina Church, trying to keep teens on track. The parish is run by the Rev. Michael Pfleger, a firebrand white priest in an overwhelmingly black congregation whose crusades against violence, drugs and liquor and cigarette billboards are a staple of local news.

Bosley's 18-year-old son, Terrell, a college freshman and gospel bass player, was killed in 2006 when he and friends were shot while unloading musical equipment outside a church on the far South Side. A man charged was acquitted.

"I think about him all day and all night," Bosley says of her son. "If I stop, I'll lose my mind."

Bosley works with kids 14 to 21, teaching them life and leadership skills and ways to reduce violence. Sometimes, she says, neglectful parents are the problem; often it's gangs who just don't value life.

"You know how you have duck (hunting) season in the woods?" she asks. "In urban communities, it's duck season for us every day. You never know when you're going to get shot."

In December, Bosley phoned to console the grieving mother of Porshe Foster, 15, who was shot a few miles away while standing outside with other kids. A young man in the group has said he believed the gunman was aiming at him.

"I know how it feels to wake up in your house without your child, and you don't want to get out of bed, you don't feel like living," Bosley says.

St. Sabina is offering a $5,000 reward for information leading to an arrest. Bosley sent balloons to the girl's funeral.

On Dec. 6, hundreds celebrated the A-student who liked architecture and played on her school's volleyball and basketball teams.

Her brother, Robert, 22, says his sister "knew what was going on in the streets as well as we did," but he didn't worry because she was either at school, home or church.

"She was always a good girl," he says. "She didn't have to look over her shoulder. She was a 15-year-old girl. She didn't ever do any wrong to anybody."

In March, St. Sabina parishioners, led by the Rev. Pfleger, marched through the streets in protest, calling out gang factions by name. They planted the "Stop Killing" cross on 79th.

In April, the priest and other pastors returned to 79th to successfully stop the reopening of a store where there was a mass shooting; they condemned it as a haven for gangs.

In December, Pfleger stood in his church gym, watching gang members hustle down the basketball court.

On this Monday night, in this gym, it was hard to tell who was who.

The basketball teams wore different colored T-shirts with the same word: Peacemaker. They're all part of Pfleger's 12-week basketball league, aimed at cooling gang hostilities by having rivals face each other on the court. Many players, from 16 to 27, have criminal records.

The league grew out of a single successful game this fall and has high-profile supporters, including Joakim Noah of the Chicago Bulls.

Pfleger says the games have helped players build relationships, see beyond gang affiliation and stop shooting each other, at least for now.

"I have people tell me I'm naive, I'm stupid, I should be ashamed of myself working with these gangs," he says. "I could care less. We've demonized them so much we forget they're human beings."

But Pfleger also says games alone won't change anything. These young men need jobs and an education, and he's working on that.

"When there's no alternative," he says, "you'll continue to do what you do."

Breakup sparked theater shootout at "Hobbit" flick
By Ana Ley

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A recent breakup set off a shooting spree that ended with a man wounded at a South Side movie theater before the suspect was shot by an off-duty deputy, authorities said Monday.

Jesus Manuel Garcia, 19, an employee at a China Garden restaurant next to the Santikos Mayan Palace 14 theater, apparently became upset Sunday night after his girlfriend broke up with him.

He lashed out by sending her a message saying he planned to go to the restaurant and "shoot somebody," said Bexar County sheriff's Sgt. Raymond Pollard.

Pollard said the woman called to warn restaurant employees, but by the time she saw his message, Garcia was already outside the China Garden firing a Glock 23 at the front door about 9:25 p.m.

Garcia went inside, chased people out the back door, and followed one employee as he ran toward the theater, apparently because he was the easiest target, Pollard said.

"He was chasing him, shooting in the air and at other cars," Pollard said.

He said that when a San Antonio police officer heard the gunshots and pulled into the theater's parking lot, Garcia shot out his patrol car's windshield.

Garcia then pursued the employee into the theater, firing more shots when he reached the lobby, Pollard said.

One of the shots struck a patron in the back, but the bullet did not strike any vital organs and the man was released from San Antonio Military Medical Center later Sunday night.

Bexar County sheriff's Sgt. Lisa Castellano, who was working off-duty as a security guard at the Mayan Palace, chased the gunman toward the back of the theater. The 13-year department veteran cornered him after he ran into a men's restroom, shooting him several times and taking his gun, Pollard said.

Armando Olguin, an off-duty San Antonio Independent School District police officer, restrained him using the sergeant's handcuffs, Pollard said.

Garcia was rushed to SAMMC, where he was in stable condition in the intensive care unit Monday.

Bexar County officials said Castellano was told not to talk to media about the shooting because the investigation is ongoing.

SAISD spokeswoman Leslie Price praised Olguin, a four-year department veteran, calling him an "excellent officer."

"It sounds like he did all the right things," Price said.

The shooting immediately sparked fears of a mass slaying like the one in July that killed 12 people and injured 58 at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo.

Tara Grace, who was buying a drink from the concession stand when the shooting began, ran into the bathroom and locked herself in a stall with five other patrons to avoid the mayhem.

"We thought we were going to die," she said.

Cassandra Castillo waited anxiously outside the theater Sunday night for her son, a projectionist at the theater.

"It brings back memories of the other theater shooting, and the elementary school shooting," she said, referring to Friday's Newtown, Conn., shooting that left 20 children and six adults dead. "You only think the worst."

A restaurant employee who asked not to be identified said such an attack was out of character for Garcia, known as "Chuy" to coworkers.

"He's a good kid and not violent. He's quiet and minds his own business," the coworker said. "I have nothing bad to say about him."

The restaurant's owner declined Monday to talk about the shooting or provide his name, but he did say he planned to reopen the business once the front door is replaced and crews can fix the bullet holes in the walls and windows.

A Santikos spokesman did not return a message seeking comment.

Garcia was charged with attempted capital murder of a police officer and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, according to arrest records. His bail was set at a combined $1 million

1997) MS. Asst. School Principal Captures Mass Murderer With His Colt 1911 .45 (Love this Weapon)

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Pearl High School - shooting
Location Pearl, Mississippi, United States
Date - October 1, 1997 (UTC-6)
Attack type - School shooting, spree killing, matricide
Weapon(s) - Marlin Model 336 .30-30-caliber rifle, knife
Deaths - 3, including Luke Woodham's mother
Injured - 7
Perpetrator - Luke Woodham
Defender - Joel Myrick (Assistant Principal & US Army Reserve Commander) armed with Colt 1911 .45 auto [1]
Motive - (Majorly) School bullying, (Minorly) Childhood Abuse  


This story is a little different than the normal self defense stories we publish here. This one is over 14 years old. However, I feel that it's important that we not lose track of the older stories that often times provide prime examples of what guns in the hands of law abiding citizens are capable of. I know many people that have followed the gun rights community for any amount of time may have seen this story, but I encourage you to share it now, in the age of social media so that more may understand.

This story focuses on the Pearl High School Shooting of 1997, possibly one of the earliest mass murders committed by a student at a school in the US.

Sixteen year old Luke Woodham was distraught due to the fact that his girlfriend of the time had broken up with him, so he started by beating and stabbing his mother to death at their home. Woodham then took a lever action .30-30 hunting rifle with him to his school, Pearl High. He made no attempt to hide or conceal the rifle. He entered the school and began shooting students. Two people were killed and seven others wounded. The first person killed was Woodham's ex-girlfriend. After she was shot Woodham began shooting indiscriminately at anyone in the area.

Woodham knew that the police would soon be on their way, but he had no plans to allow himself to be captured or kill himself (as is popular with many mass murderers). Woodham had planned to drive to nearby Pearl Junior High School and continue his shooting spree while police were occupied with the confusion at Pearl High.

Woodham successfully made his way to his car well before police arrived. However, Woodham would never make it to Pearl Junior High.

Assistant Princiapl Joel Myrick heard the shooting when it began and immediately went into action. After getting several students to safety and figuring out what was going on Myrick knew what he had to do. Myrick had a Colt .45 handgun in his truck. Due to gun laws Myrick was not allowed to carry his gun on his person. Myrick ran to his vehicle, retrieved the gun, loaded it, and headed back to the school.

Woodham was already in the parking lot, getting into his car. Myrick confronted Woodham in the parking lot, held his gun to the boy's head and managed to subdue Woodham until police arrived.

There is simply no telling how many lives were saved by this educator who took steps to make sure that he was prepared for any situation and to use a weapon when it was necessary to save the lives of others.

Source Articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting
http://articles.cnn.com/1997-10-02/us/9710_02_miss.shooting.folo_1_mary-woodham-pearl-high-school-trench-coat?_s=PM:US
http://www.davekopel.com/2a/othwr/principal&gun.htm
http://davekopel.org/2A/OpEds/HeroesOutlawed.htm
http://reason.com/archives/2000/06/01/loaded-coverage/singlepage
http://lubbockonline.com/news/101297/LA0540.htm
http://www.cnn.com/US/9806/12/school.shooting.verdict/

In 2012, 532 people were murdered in the city of Chicago, according to statistics compiled by theCrime in Chicago website. The number of people murdered the year before was 441, meaning in the city of Chicago, murders have increased by 91 from 2011 to 2012.

The Chicago Police Department was not available to confirm these numbers today, which is New Year's Day.

The website also claims that, through December 25, 2012, there 2,670 people were shot in Chicago last year. That's also an increase from the year before, when 2,217 people were shot in Chicago that year.

In all, it means that on average almost 1.5 people were murdered in Chicago each day last year, while on average 7.3 people were shot each day.

Oh yeah... Chicago started off this morning, 1/1/13, with a "bang"... 3 shot dead.

BREAKING! As of 12/21/12, Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, AZ.... FULL STEAM AHEAD with B.H.Obama Investigation - Surprises COMING!

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Why the 2nd Amendment

By Walter E. Williams
1/2/2013

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., shootings, said: "The British are not coming. ... We don't need all these guns to kill people." Lewis' vision, shared by many, represents a gross ignorance of why the framers of the Constitution gave us the Second Amendment. How about a few quotes from the period and you decide whether our Founding Fathers harbored a fear of foreign tyrants.

Alexander Hamilton: "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed," adding later, "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government." By the way, Hamilton is referring to what institution when he says "the representatives of the people"?

James Madison: "(The Constitution preserves) the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation ... (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."

Thomas Jefferson: "What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms."

George Mason, author of the Virginia Bill of Rights, which inspired our Constitution's Bill of Rights, said, "To disarm the people -- that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them."

Rep. John Lewis and like-minded people might dismiss these thoughts by saying the founders were racist anyway. Here's a more recent quote from a card-carrying liberal, the late Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey: "Certainly, one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms. ... The right of the citizen to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America but which historically has proven to be always possible." I have many other Second Amendment references at http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/quotes.html.

How about a couple of quotations with which Rep. Lewis and others might agree? "Armas para que?" (translated: "Guns, for what?") by Fidel Castro. There's a more famous one: "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing." That was Adolf Hitler.

Here's the gun grabbers' slippery-slope agenda, laid out by Nelson T. Shields, founder of Handgun Control Inc.: "We're going to have to take this one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily -- given the political realities -- going to be very modest. ... Right now, though, we'd be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal -- total control of handguns in the United States -- is going to take time. ... The final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition -- except for the military, police, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs and licensed gun collectors -- totally illegal" (The New Yorker, July 1976).

There have been people who've ridiculed the protections afforded by the Second Amendment, asking what chance would citizens have against the military might of the U.S. government. Military might isn't always the deciding factor. Our 1776 War of Independence was against the mightiest nation on the face of the earth -- Great Britain. In Syria, the rebels are making life uncomfortable for the much-better-equipped Syrian regime. Today's Americans are vastly better-armed than our founders, Warsaw Ghetto Jews and Syrian rebels.

There are about 300 million privately held firearms owned by Americans. That's nothing to sneeze at. And notice that the people who support gun control are the very people who want to control and dictate our lives.

Gun Confiscation in Ten Easy Steps


By Steve Sheldon / 1 January 2013 /

All the time fellow gun owners say things to me like, "Seriously, Steve, how would they possibly gather up all the hundreds of millions of guns that are out there?"

Well my naïve friend, let me tell you how it works.


Step 1: Create an anti-gun culture and make guns and gun owners the bad guys at every turn: On the evening news, every time a crime is reported, make sure there is a picture of a mean looking gun next to the chalk outline of a body. Portray hunters and sportsmen as backwoods unsophisticated hillbillies and rednecks. Feminize the society, especially the males. Create a culture where the police* are revered as heroes whose intentions can never be questioned. Demonize war and warriors. Label gun organizations "crazed lunatics" and "unreasonable extremists." Make shooting restrictive by forcing participants to private ranges, then close the ranges by legal means citing reasons of safety, nuisance, environmental, or whatever possible. Create terms like "assault weapon", "high-powered sniper rifle", "guns off the streets", "weapons of war" when engaging in the gun debate making ordinary guns out to have extraordinary functions. Build on this disinformation by using movies, gaming, and entertainment that creates the falsehood that guns are capable of doing impossible things like firing hundreds of times without reloading or overheating or blowing up a car's gas tank with the strike of a bullet.


Step 2: Build "security" systems that make the sheeple feel safe, giving them a false sense of security and overdependence on police and government authority while at the same time disarming them. Establish gun free zones. Install security cameras everywhere. Place roving security cars with strobes in mall parking lots. Create neighborhood watch programs under the careful supervision of law enforcement insisting that no one be armed and that all incidents are to be reported to the police. Install and maintain elaborate computer entry systems in buildings. Establish pat downs at sporting events, etc. Put "no gun" signs in all public places.


Step 3: Play soothing music prior to the execution: Tell the sheeple that the taking away of their protection is for their own good. Confuse them with emotional arguments. Convince them that you're doing it for the children. Couch it as a safety issue. Use turncoats to make illogical but emotionally appealing arguments. Tell them you're not coming for all the guns, just some of the more evil looking ones even though they function in exactly in the same manner.

Step 4: Wait until some horrible tragedy or series of events that make the sheeple susceptible to emotional arguments and knee-jerk reactions:

Step 5: Create a system that makes registration and confiscation simple and gun ownership very difficult and expensive: Close private sales between individuals. Create a national registration or database that can easily be turned to for confiscation. Create bureaucracies that are unaccountable to the people and can serve the purpose of registration, confiscation, and collection. Create processes so cumbersome that no one would possibly want to purchase and register a firearm.

Step 6: Begin the process of making certain kinds of guns illegal: Take incremental steps by isolating one group of firearm and pitting its owners against the "more reasonable" owner. Then continue to redefine "reasonable" insisting that if this class of firearm or that class of firearm were "off the streets" then society could be a better place and our children protected.

Step 7: Create "buyback" and "amnesty" programs that have the effect of identifying and confiscating guns that have slipped under the registration radar.

Step 8: Use some kind of national emergency to begin final implementation once the population has been sufficiently disarmed. This can be done through economic chaos or used as an excuse to quell civil uprising as a result of a variety of circumstances.

Step 9: Throughout the process, implement draconian fines and prison sentences for those who refuse to capitulate. Encourage neighbor to turn on neighbor and gun owner to turn on gun owner. Reward turncoats with positions of power or financial gain. THIS STEP IS KEY: To those that think, "They're not going to take my guns away," you are a fool. Most people will capitulate when they are faced with huge fines and prison sentences. Look no further than the holocaust less than sixty years ago. These were not guns that were rounded up and destroyed, but human beings! Does any reasonable person think that this could not possibly happen again? And for those of you who think democracy is the answer, Hitler was put in power through the democratic process and then gained absolute power though various political moves eventually taking full control of the government.

Step 10: Welcome to disarmament! My gun owning friends, do not fall for these steps. Resist them at every turn. Today it's thirty round magazines, "military looking" guns, online ammunition sales and registration, tomorrow, it's full confiscation.

One final thought: If safety, security, and protection of our children are really the issues, then why first go after something that is rarely used in violent crime? Why not start with something that kills far more innocents every year like abortion, prescription drugs, or automobiles?

Don't be lulled into false thinking, my average American citizen. It's not about safety or protecting children; there are better ways to protect against random acts of mass murderers than to disarm law abiding citizens. To quote one of my favorite bumper stickers, "It's not about the guns, it's about the control."

*This is not an indictment against police, as I have family members and very close friends who are members of the law enforcement community who believe as I do and are very necessary members of an ordered society.[/font]

America is under scrutiny for 'guns and violence', which from the point of view of the average American on the ground, is often very over stated and not their experience at all.


From the Daily Mail come the following interesting statistics:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa – widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.


And the National Review:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/334904/violent-britain-charles-c-w-cooke#

According to the Mail, Britons suffer 1,158,957 violent crimes per year, which works out at 2,034 per 100,000 residents. By contrast the number in notoriously violent South Africa is 1,609 per 100,000.

The U.S., meanwhile, has a rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, which is lower than France's, at 504; Finland's, at 738; Sweden's, at 1123; and Canada's at 935.


With all the accusatory finger pointing  the USA is taking lately  it is a reminder that sometimes things are not what the media portrays.  The US, for all its problems is no worse than much of the rest of the world and in many instances still  better off.


But who can deny that the entire world is in need of an overhaul in morality and character?


At a Brady Center event to "Prevent Gun Violence by Jodie Foster Fans from Accidentally Hitting White House Press Secretaries in the Head" the Brady Center Legal Action Project Director asked retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens whether having a right to a cell phone might be a more universal form of self-defense than gun ownership.


"Maybe you have some kind of constitutional right to have a cell phone with a predialed 911 number at your bedside, and that might provide you with a little better protection than a gun, which you're not used to using," Justice Stevens mumbled.

Stevens, who often seemed unclear on the difference between a right and an entitlement, had a point. Why bother waiting for the laborious process of using a gun, when you can instantly dial 911 and wait twenty minutes while being murdered for the police to arrive.

The extreme Hollywood view of America is the only view most people really have and it is a false one but it meets the liberal agenda of constantly putting the country down.     
http://stupidcelebrities.net/2013/01/are-these-celebrities-hypocrites-calling-for-gun-control-photosvideo/

Talk about your HYPOCRITES! There is an awesome video that was created to show the hypocrisy called "Demand a Plan"

(Please be warned the video has foul language and violence)

                 

So leave the guns out of it and look at other ways to keep people safe. Such as ''hardening'' the buildings against outside gun attacks. It won't keep shooters from attacking people outside, but it would keep them from getting inside locked doors to shoot or pull fire alarms. There are several ways to go at this. Arming everyone is not a comfortable solution for many people.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 03, 2013, 01:48:08 PM
So leave the guns out of it and look at other ways to keep people safe. Such as ''hardening'' the buildings against outside gun attacks. It won't keep shooters from attacking people outside, but it would keep them from getting inside locked doors to shoot or pull fire alarms. There are several ways to go at this. Arming everyone is not a comfortable solution for many people.

Wha... hardening the buildings?  At what cost??  It would be a lot cheaper to buy a Browning pump 12 ga. @ $600. then to spend thousands to renovate a building.

Guns and Piers Morgan  

By Larry Elder
1/3/2013
CNN's Piers Morgan writes that the pro-gun crowd's anger toward him stems from anti-British bias: "This gun debate is an ongoing war of verbal attrition in America -- and I'm just the latest target, the advantage to the gun lobbyists being that I'm British, a breed of human being who burned down the White House in 1814 and had to be forcefully deported en masse, as no American will ever be allowed to forget."

Scads of "in-sourced" Brits appear on our telly without us Yanks calling for their deportation. Hell, we just let a Brit play Abe Lincoln. Fox's Stuart Varney seems to escape this anti-mother country xenophobia.

Maybe, just maybe, it's the way Morgan -- as well as much of the guns-kill-people-crowd -- holds "debates" on the matter.

Take the treatment of Larry Pratt. Respected in circles that Piers "I-have- fired-guns-only-once-in-my-life" Morgan chooses not to hang out with, Pratt heads a pro-Second Amendment group called the Gun Owners of America. Pratt, on Morgan's show, attempted to explain that the "gun control" big picture requires understanding something: Hundreds of thousand of Americans, every year, use firearms for self-defense.

Morgan's response? He called Pratt "an incredibly stupid man" and denounced "idiots like you." Then came this: "You don't give a damn," Morgan said, "do you, about the gun murder rate in America? You don't actually care."

Morgan offered no study, expert, number -- nothing whatsoever -- to counter the claim. That anyone with a moderately functioning brain could find an upside in owning, let alone using, a gun simply astonishes Morgan. Defies common sense!

Is it true, as claimed by Florida criminalist Gary Kleck, that 2.5 million Americans each year use a firearm for self-defense? Is it true that, of that number, 400,000 people believe that, were it not for the gun they used, they would have been killed? These are questions and answers the anti-gun crowd ignores, chooses not to think about or considers irrelevant.

"How many Americans are alive," I once asked a pro-gun control police chief, "because they used a firearm in self defense?"

"I don't know the answer to that," he said.

"You know the exact number of people murdered because of guns," I said, "but you don't know how many people are alive because of them?"

"No, I don't."

"What if I told you of a study that said 2.5 million people use guns every year for self-defense -- and that of that number 400,000 believe had they not had the gun, they would have been killed?"

"I don't believe that."

"What's your number?"

"Don't have one -- and it doesn't matter. We have too many guns in this country. "

At least the police chief admitted that however many more people are alive than dead because of guns, he nevertheless wants guns even more restricted.

What's Piers Morgan's excuse? He simply refused to believe the data.

What about the 2.5 million number? Pro-gun-control law professor and criminologist Marvin Wolfgang, of Northwestern University, examined Kleck's data and methodology. Just how pro-gun control is Wolfgang? He wrote: "I am as strong a gun-control advocate as can be found among the criminologists in this country. If I were Mustapha Mond of 'Brave New World,' I would eliminate all guns from the civilian population and maybe even from the police. I hate guns -- ugly, nasty instruments designed to kill people."

But of Kleck's claim that 2.5 million Americans yearly use guns for self-defense? Wolfgang wrote: "What troubles me is the article by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz. The reason I am troubled is that they have provided an almost clear-cut case of methodologically sound research in support of something I have theoretically opposed for years, namely, the use of a gun in defense against a criminal perpetrator. ... I do not like their conclusions that having a gun can be useful, but I cannot fault their methodology. They have tried earnestly to meet all objections in advance and have done exceedingly well."

The Oscar-winning Michael Moore says America possesses "too many guns" because of racism. For my pro-Second Amendment documentary, "Michael & Me," I "ambushed" Moore. The anti-gun Moore, by the way, was surrounded by security and coming into a venue a back way to avoid the very "ambush interviews" in which he specializes. Three times I asked Moore how often Americans use guns to defend themselves. Three times Moore deflected the question, merely repeating "we have too many guns."

Morgan is right. Per capita, we have nearly 50 times the gun murder rate compared to the gun murder rate of England. But look at all murders, whether by knife or baseball bat. Rather than 50 times the rate, it is less than five -- not 50 -- times higher than the murders committed by any means in England. For my documentary, I interviewed Joyce Lee Malcolm, author of "Guns and Violence." She said the same murder rate discrepancy -- five times the British rate -- existed between New York City and London for two centuries, and during most of that time neither city had any gun control laws.

This must make Malcolm "an incredibly stupid woman." Debate over.

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Illinois Pushes for (which could be complete and total) Gun Ban

By: John Hayward
1/3/2013 09:03 AM


Click here to watch a video: Gun Free Zones.




Illinois is America's heartland basket case, a dysfunctional state teetering on the edge of outright fiscal collapse.[/b] But they've got plenty of time for gun-control grandstanding, especially since it allows big-shot politicians to talk tough and shove law-abiding citizens around. Fox News reports on the push for something close to outright gun confiscation in the Land of Lincoln:

Illinois Senate Democrats advanced legislation late Wednesday to restrict semiautomatic weapons and high-capacity magazines, pressing forward with new gun control measures in the waning days of the session over the objections of firearms groups.

Amid the developments, the Illinois State Rifle Association issued an "urgent alert" to its members warning them that Democratic legislators were trying to push through last-minute anti-gun legislation.

"There would be no exemptions and no grandfathering," the group stated in its alert. "You would have a very short window to turn in your guns to the state police and avoid prosecution."

Well, unless you're a criminal, of course. In that case, you can hang onto your guns and continue your normal daily routine of avoiding prosecution.

The phrase "semi-automatic weapons" is generally deployed as scare language to conjure visions of Al Pacino screaming "Say hello to my little friend!" and filling the air with hot lead, but most guns are semi-automatic these days, as the NRA hastened to point out:

One measure would ban the possession, delivery, sale and transfer of semiautomatic handguns and rifles. People who currently own such weapons could keep them but would have to register them. The bill would allow semiautomatic weapons to be used at shooting ranges, but those facilities would be regulated.

National Rifle Association lobbyist Todd Vandermyde told lawmakers the bill would restrict about 75 percent of handguns and 50 percent of long guns in circulation today. He also said it would treat law-abiding gun owners like criminals, and is in conflict with Second Amendment rights upheld by the courts.
I
've never seen a piece of legislation that tramples on so many court decisions," Vandermyde said.

The other bill, introduced by Democratic state Sen. Dan Kotowski, would limit ammunition magazines to 10 or fewer rounds.

(Emphasis mine.) Fox News notes that gun makers are thinking about fleeing Illinois and taking their jobs with them, but that should be no big deal for the state government – they're quite accustomed to capital flight.

Gun manufactures in Illinois have already threatened to leave the area if laws limiting guns are put in place. ArmaLite owner Mark Westrom told FoxNews.com that he's been fielding offers from at least two others states to move his operation if gun control laws in Illinois are pushed through.

The Supreme Court would most likely strike the more restrictive of these laws down. In fact, Illinois has already been warned by federal judges that its existing ban on concealed-carry permits needs an overhaul. Which is too bad, because the strictest gun control laws in the nation have already made Chicago into a pastoral murder-free Elysium.

Whatever is going to happen, it will happen fast. The sponsors of this legislation are desperately trying to ram it through the final week of a lame-duck session. Citing an NRA alert, the Examiner explains that "to pass a draconian new gun law, Illinois' forcible citizen disarmament advocates will need the votes of many legislators who were voted out of office in November, and have only one more week before they must seek honest work." The actual criminals of Illinois can look forward to plying their dishonest trade against an even more thorougly disarmed populace.

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FBI: More People Killed with Hammers, Clubs Each Year than Rifles

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/03/FBI-More-People-Killed-With-Hammers-and-Clubs-Each-Year-Than-With-Rifles

by AWR Hawkins


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According to the FBI annual crime statistics, the number of murders committed annually with hammers and clubs far outnumbers the number of murders committed with a rifle.

This is an interesting fact, particularly amid the Democrats' feverish push to ban many different rifles, ostensibly to keep us safe of course.

However, it appears the zeal of Sens. like Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Joe Manchin (D-WV) is misdirected. For in looking at the FBI numbers from 2005 to 2011, the number of murders by hammers and clubs consistently exceeds the number of murders committed with a rifle.

Think about it: In 2005, the number of murders committed with a rifle was 445, while the number of murders committed with hammers and clubs was 605. In 2006, the number of murders committed with a rifle was 438, while the number of murders committed with hammers and clubs was 618.

And so the list goes, with the actual numbers changing somewhat from year to year, yet the fact that more people are killed with blunt objects each year remains constant.

For example, in 2011, there was 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs.

While the FBI makes is clear that some of the "murder by rifle" numbers could be adjusted up slightly, when you take into account murders with non-categorized types of guns, it does not change the fact that their annual reports consistently show more lives are taken each year with these blunt objects than are taken with Feinstein's dreaded rifle.

Another interesting fact: According to the FBI, nearly twice as many people are killed by hands and fists each year than are killed by murderers who use rifles.

The bottom line: A rifle ban is as illogical as it is unconstitutional. We face far greater danger from individuals armed with carpenters' tools and a caveman's stick.

And it seems fairly obvious that if more people had a gun, less people would be inclined to try to hit them in the head with a hammer.

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Remember, I'm not an anti gun person, but I am against twisted logic, especially when reported by someone who is paid huge bucks to sell that kind of idea.
How many kids were killed in multiple numbers in one incident by one or two people with hammers? Or any other weapon besides a gun?
How many kids were run down or murdered in intentional vehicle accidents with multiple fatalities?
Besides, cars don't kill people, drivers do.
I hate those arguments, they are totally meaningless! But those do make sense to people who aren't very bright.
  What about bombings that take multiple lives, including children? The emotional interest in that goes away after a short time and the "inconvenience' becomes more important! Such is human nature.

Quote from Diane :
How many kids were killed in multiple numbers in one incident by one or two people with hammers? Or any other weapon besides a gun?


Teacher and 7 children killed in China school attack
May 12, 2010


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An attacker has hacked seven children and one teacher to death and wounded 20 others in a violent rampage at a kindergarten in northwest China's Shaanxi province. The slaying marked the latest in a string of attacks on schools nationwide and came despite an ordered boost in security at school grounds. Liu Xiaoming, the deputy director of the propaganda department of Hanzhong city where the latest attack occurred, confirmed the deaths and injuries and said the attacker had killed himself afterward.

That was China. I don't know what their gun laws are. I assume very restrictive as compared to here, I don't know. I meant here, of course. So should we just give up based on that article?

That was China---not here. What---Chinese children's lives are not as valuable as American children ?
You talk about twisted logic.
I think it was the same days and the Conn. shootings there was a crazy bastard that slashed and hacked about 20 kids at a school in China, so no, let's not base it on just that one article.
As for you not being anti gun---I can say I aint a chubby little feller but just cause I say it doesn't mean it's true. ;)

In my world, if a violent altercation occurs between two humans, the innocent assaulted party should live, and if anybody has to die or get critically wounded, it should be the sadistic perpetrator.  Call me freaky.

To make certain this occurs, the innocent party has to be able to do one or two things when the crap hits the fan:

1. Open up a can of whup ass and immobilize the foul weed, thus sending him to the hospital.

2. Double-lung the loser with a hot dose of lead, thus sending him to hell.

Yes, the one being preyed upon has to be able to do the abovementioned because the quickest cop on the planet cannot respond fast enough to save your backside should things go violently south.  You dig?  Oh, I know ... it will never happen to you.

Of the aforementioned, an 18-year-old Oklahoma teen mom, Sarah McKinley, selected option #2 early last year.  McKinley, who had just lost her husband to lung cancer on Christmas Day, was home with her 3-month-old baby boy on New Year's Eve when two dillweeds decided they were going to break into her casa.  Good Sarah was having none of it.  Are you paying attention, Diane?  You are?  Excellent.

McKinley, upon hearing and spotting one of the Darwinian holdovers wielding a 12-inch hunting knife, cordoned off her door with a couch, put a bottle in her kid's mouth to keep him calm and then proceeded to the sweet place where her 12-gauge shotgun and handgun reside.  Smart lady.  

Upon arming herself, she called 911 to get a green light from dispatch to dispatch the two dipsticks of bad intent.  Sarah is both polite and deadly... two-fer, boys.  Upon getting the nod from Nine One One, McKinley then dusted the knife wielder, and the other bandit fled the scene and was later arrested when Goofy called emergency to report his dead buddy.

This is the kind of story that we should read about more often...



...namely, the evil SOB is dead, and the innocent girl and her baby are alive, and all of this occurred because the femme fatale had the wherewithal and the knowledge to defend herself with a lethal weapon... also known as my friend, the gun.

Check it out, Diane. I guarantee that as she was sitting there alone with her tiny bambino on New Year's Eve, Sarah probably thought that things couldn't get any worse after losing her husband to lung cancer on Christmas Day.  And yet things did get worse.  But, thankfully, she was trained and had a gun.

This dire situation ended well for her and hers all because of her wood and metal amigo ... the gun.

How would you fare, my dear readers... if you were tossed in that same situation?  Would the headline read the same as dear Sarah's does, or would the perpetrator gain the upper hand because you can't or won't protect yourself, your brood and your castle?  

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/01/05/new-york-newspapers-gun-permit-map-already-having-negative-repercussions

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/04/ex-burglars-say-newspapers-gun-map-wouldve-made-job-easier-safer/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEyQISXD7Ro

Like giving salivating coyotes the key to the henhouse... Journal-News, you suck.

If home invasions and burglaries in those NY counties suddenly skyrocket, it will be interesting to see if robbed and/or assaulted homeowners press charges against the newspaper.

The Journal-News map is also reportedly being used by prison inmates to threaten prison guards and their families... "We know where you live."
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/journal-news-gun-map-being-used-by-prison-inmates-to-threaten-guards/

While there are no national statistics on how many times American police officers' guns are taken away by criminals, the FBI reported in 2005 that of the 616 law enforcement officers killed on duty by lawless scumbags from 1994 through 2003, 52 were killed with their own weapon, a disturbing 8 percent.
http://www.policeone.com/close-quarters-combat/articles/100228-Cases-of-Officers-Killed-by-Their-Own-Guns-Likely-Will-Not-Change-R-I-Policies/

Additionally, word is out that Barry Obama and his anti-Second Amendment henchmen are racing to overwhelm the NRA and shove through massive gun reform legislation before the nation's outrage over the Sandy Hook school shootings wanes.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/obama-white-house-plans-to-overwhelm-nra-with-swift-gun-control-victory/

Anti-gun, hate-spewing liberals must be ecstatic.
http://www.ldjackson.net/liberal-hate-speech-over-gun-control/

Must-read at Russia's Pravda about that nation's historic bloodbath and rise in government mass repression, mass arrests, mass deportations, mass murder, mass starvation — unbridled government tyranny — over the Russian citizenry following implementation of gun control — Americans never give up your guns. Yes, Pravda — seriously:
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/

Australia's gun ban, which outlawed weapons such as semi-automatic rifles and pump-action shotguns not only failed to reduce crime, it actually increased major crimes significantly.

From Freedom Network last month, FAIL: Australian Gun Ban Yields Higher Major Crime:

Chicago has one of the nation's most oppressive set of gun control laws, yet has one of the highest violent crime/murder rates in the United States. Gun laws don't stop criminals from procuring and using guns, but do leave non-criminal citizens much more vulnerable to gun assaults. Cautionary tale here in Australia:



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Oh no, those liberal sons a bitches would'nt lie to us to help their agenda would they ?

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

I just love a story with a happy ending. :)

Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder
Published January 06, 2013

FoxNews.com

A Georgia mother shot an ex-convict six times to protect her and her children after he apparently forced his way into the family's home.
The mom heard knocks on her front door Friday and assumed it was just a solicitor, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.

She told her 9-year-old twins not to answer the door and, when the visitor began repeatedly ringing the doorbell, she called her husband at his job and he told her to gather the children and hide.


"He opens the closet door and finds himself staring down the barrel of a .38 revolver."
- Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman


According to the Journal-Constitution, the father then dialed 911 and his wife, who works from a home office, hid with the children in a crawlspace.

By that time, according to the paper, the intruder had used a crowbar to forcibly enter the home, and made his way to the home office.

"He opens the closet door and finds himself staring down the barrel of a .38 revolver," Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

The woman fired six bullets, five of which hit Paul Ali Slater in the face and neck area, Chapman said. But Slater, who has arrests dating to 2008 and was released from jail in August, was still conscious.

"The guy's face down, crying," the sheriff said. The woman told him to stay down or she'd shoot again.

While down, the woman and her children ran to a neighbor's house, and the injured intruder made it out of the home and into his car, the paper reported.

Authorities found Slater a short time later bleeding profusely in a neighbor's driveway.

"I'm dying. Help me," he told them, according to Chapman.

Slater was transported to Gwinnett Medical Center and is expected to survive, the sheriff said.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 03, 2013, 01:48:08 PMArming everyone is not a comfortable solution for many people.

Because the anti-gun crowd made it that way.

Might I ask why Warph dragged my name into this? You all know I'm not for gun control. I am also not for innocent people getting shot.
We just had another one near here, Elkton Maryland. A family was visiting outside in the yard of a friends house at midnight on New Years Eve. as they walked back to their door,the 10 year old simply dropped without a sound. To shorten the story,she was struck straight down through the top of her head by an errant bullet that some dummy had fired straight up at midnight. Gravity took care of the rest. They had heard shots being fired and the police are investigating. She couldn't be saved. That's the second such tragedy here in just a few years. The other child did survive.
Other than some of you military people, do any of you really know what it's like to be on the wrong end of a weapon, with no gun, and have an angry victim aiming his weapon at you? I do....more than once. I'll not share details because you won't believe me, but I always carried a big folding buck knife in my equipment holster along with the other stuff we used often. We also had a side door at the head of the cot as a bailout door if needed. It did get used from time to time.
I just don't know why my name was included in  those previous posts. Why was I supposed to pay attention? I have no children here to protect. I'd shoot any of you dead in an instant if necessary, and since I am who I am I'd never be charged. :angel:  ;) :police:
i'm not as brave as my friend Gladys Fisher,who has since died. She heard glass breaking and saw an arm come through the side "lights' that most of is have on our doors hear. he thought he could reach around and open the door...nope ,double dead bolt. She grabbed his arm,hung on, and pulled down as hard as she could onto the broken glass. She severed the radial artery and ripped him open but good.. He eventually was able to pull away and ran, bleeding like a stuck pig .The police had no trouble following him to where he was hiding, weak from blood loss The guy was very embarrassed when he found out she was in her upper 70's. ;D

I can't answer for Warph but I would guess he mentioned your name because you made the laughable statement that "hardening" the building would stop school shootings
I feel like a fish taking the bait but it's a slow afternoon, so just for grins and giggles will you tell us what you mean by this quote of yours--------

I'd shoot any of you dead in an instant if necessary, and since I am who I am I'd never be charged

Quote by Diane   "I'd shoot any of you dead in an instant if necessary, and since I am who I am I'd never be charged" Diane that is the dumbest statement you have ever mad and believe me you have made some dumb ones. I am contacting your City Council and warning them that you are a danger to others. Do you realize how full of crap you sound making all of the 100s of statements of everything you have done. You need counseling in the worst way.

People here know me well enough to know, after all my years in medical services, I'd never shoot anyone without due cause. It would always be in self defense. After all it was the Newark police chief who taught me even more details to good shooting than I had ever had. after he retired he went on to do research with bullet proof materials and layered polymers. It looks like the fire service may have to be next.
Like I have always said, you have no clue as to who I am around here or what the rest of my history is. Want to call my Council
man? Luke lives two doors up from me and is a very good friend. I'd give you his number, but he'd write you off as a loony, and perhaps ask me if I wanted you charged with harassment. ;D ;D ;D
You don't believe my stories? Your loss. I wasn't awarded a fire service Jefferson Award for nothing... and the four plaques on the stair case wall, and two upstairs and a couple at the fire station. Why and how are you so sure I'm not who I say I am? Can you prove that I'm not? I wouldn't say much, but you are accusing me of telling lies and I don't like that. it's all true.
What pray tell is wrong with hardening public buildings? It has the potential of being a very inexpensive fix, if one adds the proper security guards, police officers and check points as necessary. We are very aware of secondary targets and what pulling alarms will do. We're looking into hardening the front doors and first floor windows of the new charter high school right now, while it's being built.  The nice thing about having public safety people whose kids go there, they are very willing to help us with their own expertise.

Excuse me, but... is that ol' jarhead out there fishing for those rainbows with Teddy... LOL ???

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Interesting article and videos from InfoWars...



Editor's note: The caller in the video below identified as Lt. McCoy of a North Carolina police department told Pastor Butch Paugh on December 28, 2012, that police are training for martial law this year. Paugh hosts the GCN radio show Call to Decision Monday-Friday 8:00pm-9:00pm Central Time. He is a highly credible source of information and released the clergy response story.

In this broadcast of the Cybertribe News Network, a North Carolina Police Lieutenant calls in to give his first hand knowledge of preparations being made within his own department to train and prepare for martial law in the United States, possibly in the coming year.

               


Many similar reports are starting to trickle in from all across the country, through various independent media resources and even organizations like Oath Keepers.

The consensus is that a major economic event is expected, and that it will be used to provide cover for the institution of draconian policies being readied behind the curtain.  The exact timing of this event is not clear, but we do know the planning is being done, and that provisions are being put in place.

The following officer's admissions are another startling indicator of just how close to the precipice we really are...[/font][/size]



North Carolina Police Lieutenant warns of Martial Law in Early 2013.[/font][/size]

                 

Diane,
I am a simple man so I still do not understand what you meant when you said---" I'd shoot any of you dead in an instant if necessary, and since I am who I am I'd never be charged "
Why would you not be charged simply because of "I am who I am " Please explain what  that means .

If Democrats aren't 100% on-board with Obama's gun control plans they have zero chance of passing Congress, the wannabe dictator is going to go the executive order route, mark my words.
...Warph



Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.) on Sunday panned the White House's reported gun-control proposals as "extreme."  


In an interview with ABC's "This Week," the senator said that while she was open to a broad discussion on ways to prevent gun violence in the wake of December's tragic shooting in Newtown, Conn., she doubted that the administration's likely proposals would garner support on Capitol Hill.

"I think you need to put everything on the table, but what I hear from the administration -- and if the Washington Post is to be believed -- that's way -- way in extreme of what I think is necessary or even should be talked about. And it's not going to pass," said Heitkamp. 

A report in the Washington Post released Saturday said the White House working group on gun violence was considering measures including universal background checks for all gun buyers, strengthened mental health examinations and tougher penalties for those caught carrying firearms near schools.

Those proposals would go well beyond the bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, which the president has called on Congress to pass.

The White House gun-violence group, led by Vice President Joe Biden, was established in response to the killing of 26 people, including 20 elementary school students, in Newtown last month.

The incident has renewed debate over the nation's gun laws, with Democrats and the president pushing for new restrictions.

Proponents of gun-ownership rights, however, say that the focus should be on broader issues, including mental health treatment and the role of violence in entertainment culture.

Heitkamp, who holds an "A" rating from the National Rifle Association, the nation's largest gun-rights lobby, said the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School called for more attention on mental health issues.

"One of the issues that I think comes -- screams out of this is the issue of mental health and the care for the mentally ill in our country, especially the dangerously mentally ill," said Heitkamp. "And so we need to have a broad discussion before we start talking about gun control.

Read more: http://thehill.com/video/senate/275819-heitkamp-reported-obama-gun-control-proposals-extreme#ixzz2HGy8cdEL

Jar, if you showed up beating on my house and screaming and yelling and broke in, and you were a stranger to me, if I thought you meant me harm, I'll shoot to kill, with no second thoughts.
 I am very well known here by all the local police agencies. I taught the first responder component in the police and fire academies for many years ,back as far as when today's officers were rookies...They know and trust me. The police chief ,fire chief ,Mayor, City Manager and the council are personal friends. Several of our police officers are fire fighters too, so we would know each other well.
A number of the police officers of several agencies were cared for by me in tight situations over the years.  I won't bore you with more stories, but they all know me well enough to know that if I ever shot someone it was necessary.
I even cared for their weapons in several cases when they were too ill to be safe with them. Took their gun belts and hid them in the squad bench and turned them over to the sector Sgt. when we reached the hospital. Not a big deal here and not just me. We all do that kind of thing. Why do you ask?

Lets see if I got this straight---just because the police chief, fire chief , mayor and the rest of the city Dad's know you and trust you, if you shot one of the citizens of Elk county grave yard dead, there is no way you would be charged simply because they" know and trust you" ?
Well my dear lady, you better do your killing in Delaware then because you come here and pull that shit you will be investigated and if found guilty you would be an ear ring to a cottonwood tree---and our Sheriff wouldn't give a rats ass who you know in high places. If your cops base their investigative decisions on weather they "know and trust" someone---then I say your police force are not only corrupt but incompetent too. No wonder Joe Biden is proud to call that place his home !!
Just for the record---did you by any chance teach Carlos Hathcock to shoot ?

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Polls Dispel Idea of Gun Ban Support
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/1/polls-dispel-idea-of-gun-ban-support.aspx

Obviously, the rush is on for gun ban activists. Many surely know their road won't lead to a safer society, but they don't care. As long as their bandwagon is taking on passengers, it gives both the appearance of action being taken and the opportunity to bash the NRA.

Fortunately, the majority of the country isn't buying the hype.

In the immediate wake of the Newtown murders, while gun-control advocates were exploiting the actions of a madman to try to justify disarming the law-abiding majority, a USA Today-Gallup Poll found that 74 percent of those polled opposed a ban on private ownership of handguns, and 51 percent opposed a ban on private ownership of so called "assault weapons."

A recent Rasmussen Reports poll found that 54 percent of American adults would feel safer if their child's school had an armed security guard. The same poll found that among parents of school-aged children, support for armed guards is even higher. Sixty two percent of such parents would feel safer with an armed security guard at the school, while 22 percent would feel safer if their child attended a gun-free school.

And even as the gun banners seek to blame and attack NRA for the actions of a killer, Gallup's poll reveals that NRA still has a 54 percent favorable rating among Americans. It is worth noting that, as of January 3rd, the Real Clear Politics average of President Obama's approval rating is slightly lower, at 53.4 percent. And, perhaps not surprisingly, recent data show the overall approval rating for the U.S. Congress is just 18 percent.

In other words, there is greater support for armed guards in schools than there is for restricting "assault weapons," and NRA remains more popular than the president and about three times more popular than Congress.

Diane,
I'm sure you are a close personal friend of Richard Begleiter. Did you happen to catch him tonight on the Bill O'Reilly show ? What a pompous ass.  He should have been on DWTS instead of debating the issue of that newspaper disclosing gun owners names and addresses. He set there all smug and danced around every question---no answers to any of the questions. Does he happen to teach a class there at UD, called "how to be an arrogant arse " or does it does it have something to do with the water there? :angel:

Diane I set back and read the things that you type all over Elk County forum and you make me sick!!!! You think you would fill your admirer's in Delaware with all of your BS....well maybe you feed Elk County full of your BS because no one there will listen to you!! You call people out and oh my everyone is picking on me BS is getting old....didn't you say somewhere that you were going to stay on facebook bc everyone there is nice?? Ok Diane go to facebook and keep your cry baby arse off of our forum. You don't live here so butt the hell out...or you can read but just shut the hell up!!! PS. If you ever shoot Jar aka my father you can probably count on 3 ks daughter's of Jar's hunting your ass down......PS we know how to shoot a gun also taught by our father whom we are very proud of that would be Mr. Jarhead to my friend.....Jar's oldest daughter....oh yea you act so damn smart on here and like we are a bunch of hicks in the sticks but I have to agree with oldtimer you are an idiot...and another thing dummy diane we know cars don't kill people the drivers do.....well guns don't kill people....people do!!! :o...sorry if I offended anyone but I have read all of dummy diane that I could take without blasting off on her.

Quote from: cheyronni on January 07, 2013, 09:35:01 PM
Diane I set back and read the things that you type all over Elk County forum and you make me sick!!!! You think you would fill your admirer's in Delaware with all of your BS....well maybe you feed Elk County full of your BS because no one there will listen to you!! You call people out and oh my everyone is picking on me BS is getting old....didn't you say somewhere that you were going to stay on facebook bc everyone there is nice?? Ok Diane go to facebook and keep your cry baby arse off of our forum. You don't live here so butt the hell out...or you can read but just shut the hell up!!! PS. If you ever shoot Jar aka my father you can probably count on 3 ks daughter's of Jar's hunting your ass down......PS we know how to shoot a gun also taught by our father whom we are very proud of that would be Mr. Jarhead to my friend.....Jar's oldest daughter....oh yea you act so damn smart on here and like we are a bunch of hicks in the sticks but I have to agree with oldtimer you are an idiot...and another thing dummy diane we know cars don't kill people the drivers do.....well guns don't kill people....people do!!! :o...sorry if I offended anyone but I have read all of dummy diane that I could take without blasting off on her.

Awesome post, I love it, you have Diane pegged perfect. Way to go CheYronni,.

Woo! The sour puss level just hit the top of the pole! I never said anything about shooting anybody, other than someone breaking into my own home. You folks are the ones who talk about shooting each other..to the point that the moderator had to step in one time and put a stop to it...
Everything I say is true, but what does it matter. My conversations are meant to be light and fun .I'm sorry some of you can't understand that. Jar doesn't need defending. We don't agree about everything and we poke back an forth, but I like him a lot...bomb shelter, jerky,wine, funny stories and all.
Where in the world did you get the idea I would shoot Jar? He would have to be here breaking into my house for that to happen, and I don't see that as likely ,do you.
Good grief! lighten up.I was talking situationally,not personally.
Are you a young colt looking for something to spook from? Please don't read things that aren't there or intended. I do hope you are finished. It's your right...as it is mine. but then again, reading what I post is your choice ,isn't it? If you can't handle it, then don't.
Why do you feel so much like "hicks." Several of you seem to feel that way and it never came from me. We have lots of farms and small towns here too, and we don't feel that way about each other. Why should you? Ross keeps calling HIMSELF an uneducated hick, nobody else does. Why are you so touchy about it?
I'm sorry you got all upset, but don't go blaming me because you don't understand my sense of humor. I've been ripped a new one before because of that, but I'm tough enough to take it.... and just put it into perspective. :angel:
Now suppose you really ARE a dumb hick..whose fault is that? Not mine.
  You choose who you want to be ,nobody else can. Considering the awards I see your kids getting out there ,being a hick must be hard to do!
ELK, you must be another one. Why do I get under your skin so badly?I mean you no harm. I don't talk about myself, my family or what I do here any more than  others who also don't live there. Nor do I have my own personal threads just for my own use. as far as who I know here..ya mean you don't know the same people there that I do here? If not, why not?  It just means the person is involved in their community and not just sitting at home stewing over how badly the world treats them.
If it's possible,have a Happy New Year.

Ok, I have to get in on this. Diane every time some one tells you what they think of all your BS, you say "You don't understand my sense of humor. You can tell every one in Howard just how great you are but since we all do not live in Delware how do we know that it is all true. It is easy to pull the wool over peoples eyes on the internet. I have had enough of "How great I am" with all your information you give.
Cheyronni, everything you said was great.

We have had two tragedies here today and I'm in no mood to baby sit corn pone and company. Stick it in your ear or whatever other opening fits!    Geeze what a piece of disgusting snot you are. >:(

Okie Dokie... getting back to the main topic here...



Girls With Guns

By Ashley Herzog
1/8/2013


In last week's column, "Good Guys With Guns," I wrote about the Mayan 14 incident, in which a shooter was halted by an off-duty cop. I referred to the cop as a "good guy," and my readers were quick to issue a correction: the good guy was actually a girl. Lisa Castellano shot the wannabe James Holmes after he ran into the Mayan 14 theater and began firing—and managed to snatch away his gun.

I don't know about you, but Lisa Castellano is my new hero.

I've written about women and guns before, when I was the lone conservative columnist on the staunchly liberal Ohio University campus. As you can probably guess, readers sneered at the notion that guns serve a legitimate self-defense purpose. A self-described feminist activist claimed that women should be more afraid of "facing charges" for shooting an attacker than being raped or murdered. A male reader condescendingly suggested women should "carry mace." I want better than that.

***So did 18-year-old mom Sarah McKinley. On New Year's Eve 2011, she was at home alone with her infant son, having lost her husband to lung cancer just a week earlier. When she heard two men trying to break in, she called 911—and grabbed her guns.

"My husband just passed away. I'm here by myself with my infant baby. Can I please get a dispatch out here immediately?" McKinley pleaded.

Twenty minutes went by with no police response. McKinley fired, killing one of the two men, both of whom were armed with 12-inch knives.

"It was either going to be him or my son. And it wasn't going to be my son," McKinley told reporters. "There's nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child."

As the mother of a 15-month old daughter, I second that.

***In October 2012, 12-year-old Kendra St. Clair was also at home alone when a home invader kicked in her back door. Her mother advised her over the phone to hide in the bathroom. Luckily, the preteen grabbed her parents' handgun first—and shot the intruder in the shoulder.

"When I had the gun, I didn't think I was actually going to have to shoot somebody," she told ABC News. "I think it's going to change me a whole lot, knowing that I can hold my head up high and nothing can hurt me anymore."

Now that's girl power.

***Two weeks ago, Abilene resident Lawanda Taylor was awakened at 2 am by a break-in. The intruder turned out to be her violent ex-boyfriend, who began assaulting her. Taylor managed to grab her gun and shoot her attacker in the side—likely saving her own life and the lives of her two children.

***Last Friday, a Georgia mother spotted a strange man breaking into her home with a crowbar. She hid her 9-year-old twins in a crawlspace and called 911. When the intruder discovered the family, she shot him five times with her revolver.

Guns can't and shouldn't be used for self-defense? Tell that to these women and countless others who never make the news. Every two minutes, a woman in this country is sexually assaulted. Three are murdered every day—a third of them by boyfriends, husbands, or ex's. Millions become victims of crimes like robbery.

"My wife is a hero. She protected her kids," Donnie Herman, the Georgia woman's husband, told reporters last week. "Her life is saved, and her kids' life is saved... She did what she was supposed to do as responsible, prepared gun owner."

I couldn't agree more. America might be a dangerous place for women, but it's less dangerous when they can defend themselves with a gun.





Checkout "Good Guys With Guns"
"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"
...NRA president Wayne LaPierre
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 You know not everyone in Kansas, or any other state, thinks guns are the answer to everything.They have their place, but thinking they are what to jump to first is dangerous ,especially with people who don't really know how to shoot and are short tempered.

Quote from Diane:
You know not everyone in Kansas, or any other state, thinks guns are the answer to everything.They have their place, but thinking they are what to jump to first is dangerous ,especially with people who don't really know how to shoot and are short tempered

You have me confused Diane. The above quote makes me think you don't think guns could quell some of the violence, but then just a couple days ago you were advocating to harden schools they need to add security guards and police officers. I'm just trying to understand where you stand on the gun debate.


Quote from Diane:
What pray tell is wrong with hardening public buildings? It has the potential of being a very inexpensive fix, if one adds the proper security guards, police officers and check points as necessary

Dianne Feinstein Carries a Concealed Weapon as She Pushes Assault Weapons Ban  

The day after Obama won reelection, Dianne Feinstein began working on the current assault weapons ban that has been fueled by Sandy Hook. Yet, Feinstein is on record saying firearms are a way to protect yourself from bad guys. Why doesn't Feinstein want to take away my guns while she admits she carries firearms to protect herself?

Enter Mark Levine:

Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 08, 2013, 08:01:50 PM
We have had two tragedies here today and I'm in no mood to baby sit corn pone and company. Stick it in your ear or whatever other opening fits!    Geeze what a piece of disgusting snot you are. >:(

They bloviate about their self created, overblown sense of personal greatness and then,when confronted with facts, libs retort with name calling, fabricate a crisis, and toddle off mad.... til the next round.

Coulter is right... it's a mental disorder.

Oh, I almost forgot.... poke, poke.   :) ;) :D ;D :o

Quote from: Patriot on January 09, 2013, 09:50:32 AM
They bloviate about their self created, overblown sense of personal greatness and then,when confronted with facts, libs retort with name calling, fabricate a crisis, and toddle off mad.... til the next round.

Coulter is right... it's a mental disorder.

Oh, I almost forgot.... poke, poke.   :) ;) :D ;D :o

Patriot, I don't very often agree with you but this time I do 1000000%. I know Rex and Jane and they are really good people.

Really? You've got someone who doesn't even live around there, who pops out like a snake once in a while to do nothing more than attack someone, and then go back in her hole. Please notice people like that never add anything of value to any conversation.They never add anything to any conversation of any value. They are probably very fine people, within a very narrow band of acceptability...your clique all thinks alike.! Jane know I knew some people... and that scares her....needlessly.
I do not lie about myself and what goes on here ,unless you want to consider good natured poking with friends lies. In that case you are all a bunch of liars.
I don't consider the sudden deaths of two friends in one day, one a suicide, a" fabricated" crisis. You really are hateful aren't you?

Jar, as far as the gun debate, I don't think there is just one answer.
We have a very complicated school integration history here that goes back many years. There was serious violence in the schools then ( 70's ) due to court ordered busing that nobody wanted, including the Wilmington city black kids who liked where they were.. I'm sure you don't want all those details, but it would explain a lot.
We have had armed Newark Police Officers (and metal detectors) assigned daily to our high school for years. The doors are always locked and visitors have to be buzzed in and then report to the office. In some cases visitors are frisked before they leave the office. All because of busing of rough inner city kids out to Newark, which is a very nice place with very little non imported trouble. Now you may wonder what this has to do with anything. There were still gun incidents! I'll not go into how but I gotta admit the bad kids can be very clever when they have retribution on their minds.
I'd prefer a muliti level approach, with armed people where it seems necessary, and verbal restraint and hardened buildings to make a package that taxpayers can afford that will provide the protection the kids deserve without making it seem like they have been sentenced to an inner city Chicago prison.
The plight of the families of known mentally ill, dangerous people needs to be addressed too. A great number of families of the dangerous mentally ill plead for help, and are told that local law can't help them "until something happens." How's that for a nice way to live?
Between being in the schools...for many, many years, and being a very busy EMT and fire company member, I did and still do have exposure to many situations that the average person does not. Sorry that bother some of you, but it's all true. You don't believe me? too bad. It has no value to me other than being disapointed that a few of you are so colonial and narrow minded.. One of these days I'll retire completely, but not just yet.

I'm still confused. In reply # 10 you say----So leave the guns out of it and look at other ways to keep people safe. Such as ''hardening'' the buildings against outside gun attacks.

Now you tell us---We have had armed Newark Police Officers (and metal detectors) assigned daily to our high school for years

Do you see where I would be confused ? You want other schools to look for other ways to protect the kids, besides using guns, but then it's OK for your schools to have armed police, and have had for years

No, not necessarily. After talking at length to some local parents, who are extremely anti gun normally, but have had a change of heart since Sandy Hook, I think guns may have to pay a bigger role than I had originally hoped.
I still think hardening the schools, which the schools here are already looking into, will help...IMHO.
  I'm not sure what you are trying to get me to say. We had to have it early because of a really stupid federal order which most areas here didn't have to deal with. Only a couple of districts were affected...all politics. It all had to do with a couple of political squeaky wheels and deseg...It hurt the reputation of our area for many years because we got caught up in it. Newark had been desegregated long ago and our kids of color went to school right here at our high school. The local black families were up in arms because they didn't want those tough street "N's" from Wilmington "messin" here in the  Newark schools. Which is exactly what happened. Lots of fights between the local kids and the bussed in imports trying to take over.
There were race riots in Wilmington then and a lot of areas were trashed.
In those days the only hospitals close were in Wilmington. When our ambulance arrived at the city line, we picked up police escorts to the hospital and still had rocks thrown at us. No shooting or fire thank goodness. Our crews weren't allowed weapons but had hard hats,goggles and Mace and were locked in the ambulances until we backed up to the ER doors. I do not want to go back to those days. There were some roof top sniper incidents, but not near where we had to go.
If some folks see armed camps as their only way to safety,that's certainly their choice. but I remember all the ways the kids here managed to get around the guards to get guns into schools anyway. Kids who knew were scared to death to talk . There were many good families who decided they'd had enough of the nonsense, took their kids and left.They either started their own private schools or moved to other states close by. Sorry this was so long.
No, I'm not anti gun...I'm anti run away gun laws that let just anybody go to a gun show etc.with no restrictions, and let them buy a truck load of weapons and drive off. Gee, how many might be true terrorists?

       Some people are just clueless. ::) :o :o :o

      I leave for a day and Diane drops a load of ----, then steps in it, wipes it on the doormat, then picks some up and rolls it in little balls.

      You are really stinking it up in here. :-X

Who are you to have any opinion at all? You don't live anywhere near where any of it happened.
I keep being told to shut up because I don't live where you are. You don't live where they are. It's up to them to decide what they want to do. I doubt they are the least bit interested in the opinions of any of you. I mean you have SO many armed teachers in your own schools.Ya better be happy for what ya have.
Your uneducated, ignorant attempts at nasty insults just let me know what a waste of tax money you were. You momma must have been so proud. I was conversing with someone else and answering some questions. Where ever you were...please go back. >:(

       As I said, some people are just clueless.

      Your remarks can bear that out, " Who are you to have any opinion at all"

     "lions and tigers and bears, Oh my"

      I guess you have to live where "they" are to have any sense of what's going on in the world.


       PS Momma is quite proud.

        Definition of a Blowhard, Diane Amberg. ;) ;) ;)

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I will bet if this dude lives he will think twice before he sticks a gun in Uncle Ken's face again :angel:



Wednesday, January 9, 2013

A suspected robber and a store owner are hospitalized after they shot each other earlier this morning in southeast Kansas.

It happened late Wednesday morning at Uncle Ken's Coin Shop, located in the 1800 block of North Penn Avenue in Independence.

Police tell KAKE News a man came into the store with a handgun and demanded cash.

As the suspect was taking the money, the store's owner, Kenny Preble, pulled out a gun and some type of struggle ensued. Both men fired, and both were shot.

Police located the suspect about a block away. He had been shot multiple times. He was taken to an Independence hospital, then flown to a Wichita hospital. His current condition is unknown.

Preble was shot in the arm, and is undergoing surgery.

The stolen cash was recovered.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 09, 2013, 03:55:37 PM
I keep being told to shut up because I don't live where you are.

Well, you're half right.

Joe Biden revealed that President Barack Obama might use an executive order to deal with guns.  


2008 Biden and his Guns...
Biden: "Obuma ain't taking my shotgun or beretta...
he tries pulling that deal, he's got a problem."




09/20/2008 Joe Biden braggs about his Beretta:




01/09/2013 Today, Biden and his anti-gun stand...


(Weekly Standard) "The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executive orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

Biden said that this is a moral issue and that "it's critically important that we act."

Biden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if your actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of Americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

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Biden, as he himself noted, helped write the Brady bill.

Eric Holder was scheduled to be at the meeting that's currently taking place at the White House.


Never mind that Team Obama recklessly put thousands of lethal assault weapons in the hands of criminal Mexican drug dealers during Operation Fast & Furious.

How quickly things flip-flop in one presidential election cycle.

However, we were duly warned more than once.

DOJ head tamale Eric Holder accidentally let it slip when he told Congress back in February 2012 that the Obama administration wanted to ban guns. According to Holder, during a Fast and Furious congressional hearing:

"This administration has consistently favored the reinstitution of the assault weapons ban. It is something that we think was useful in the past with regard to the reduction that we've seen in crime, and certainly would have a positive impact on our relationship and the crime situation in Mexico."


From Yahoo News, Wal-Mart to Attend Biden Gun Meeting:
Representatives from Wal-Mart, one of the largest sellers of firearms in this country, will attend gun violence meetings with Vice President Joe Biden tomorrow after initially turning down the invitation, a spokesperson for the company confirmed Wednesday.

Biden, cabinet members and senior staff are preparing to hold meetings this week with a number of groups focused on the problem of gun violence. Thursday he will meet with advocates for sportsmen and women and gun ownership groups, including the National Rifle Association.

"Knowing our senior leaders could not be in Washington this week, we spoke in advance with the Vice President's office to share our perspective. We underestimated the expectation to attend the meeting on Thursday in person, so we are sending an appropriate representative to participate," David Tovar, vice president of corporate communications for Wal-Mart, said in a statement.

"We take this issue very seriously and are committed staying engaged in this discussion as the Administration and Congress work toward a consensus on the right path forward," Tovar said.

Hey Bull... I've just been told that I'm the definition of patience and tolerance. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D. Was also told I'll never be able to get along with my foes there because you aren't of the real world and are scared to death to leave the safety of your little clique.That's why guns are so important to you.You are so suspicious and can't get along with normal people any other way. Gotta have those guns for protection because ya really think everyone is out to getcha. I'm not sure what you have that anyone would want, but I can't be a judge of that. Keep on enjoying your obsessions. I'm told apparently I'm one of them. ;) I've got some things to do today that have real value...can you say the same?

        Well, then it's obvious your adoring followers don't know the definition of either word. It would also seem that you are the one tilting at windmills , since you consider anyone here as "foes".

       You are , as I said, clueless. You don't understand the slightest thing about the second ammendment, nor the reason modern day people have guns.

        It seems you are the one obsessed, with yourself.

       So I am the member of a clique ? Wow, I hope it includes all of those people that have guns and know how to use them, especially if your idiot Biden and his leader decide to try passing executive orders to TRY and take them away.

      I seriously doubt that anything you do in a day, or have for years, has real value to anyone but yourself.

     I don't know, BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD, a green grasshopper has a red A- hole.

      If peace of mind and wonderful family and friends isn't something that anyone would want, that's their problem, and you certainly aren't one to judge anyone. You just try and take that away and you'll see what my guns are for.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 10, 2013, 11:45:36 AM
Hey Bull... I've just been told that I'm the definition of patience and tolerance. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.

Now just what hypocrite was it that is a clique member?  I suspect the clique has a title:  Mutual Admiration Society.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 10, 2013, 11:45:36 AM
Was also told I'll never be able to get along with my foes there because you aren't of the real world and are scared to death to leave the safety of your little clique.That's why guns are so important to you.You are so suspicious and can't get along with normal people any other way. Gotta have those guns for protection because ya really think everyone is out to getcha.

Ya know, Mrs. Obama Wannabe, you sound a lot like your fascist president with his un-American 'clinging to God and guns' assessment of citizens who actually understand and believe in their 1st & 2nd amendment protections.  Prey tell, to which communist doctrine do you subscribe?

Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 10, 2013, 11:45:36 AM
I'm told apparently I'm one of them....

"I'm told, I'm told, I'm told"... not sure, but one might wonder if you're hearing voices. 

Oh.. almost forgot again...  :) ;) :D ;D  Poke, poke, ha, ha.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 10, 2013, 11:45:36 AM
Hey Bull... I've just been told that I'm the definition of patience and tolerance. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D. Was also told I'll never be able to get along with my foes there because you aren't of the real world and are scared to death to leave the safety of your little clique.That's why guns are so important to you.You are so suspicious and can't get along with normal people any other way. Gotta have those guns for protection because ya really think everyone is out to getcha. I'm not sure what you have that anyone would want, but I can't be a judge of that. Keep on enjoying your obsessions. I'm told apparently I'm one of them. ;) I've got some things to do today that have real value...can you say the same?

Just for the sake of clarification, what do you mean by "not of the real world"? and "normal people"?
As for people out to get us..do you not watch or read the news?  People ARE out to get us!  The gov't wants to limit our freedom of speech by regulating the internet, pushing the "fairness doctrine", labeling anyone that speaks out against the president as a terrorists.  They are currently trying to strip us of our RIGHT to own firearms.  They have already taken control of our health care.  Limited our freedom of religion...the list goes on. Now, maybe you gutless cowards there in delaware are ok with a gov't that routinely oversteps its bounds?  Maybe you sheeple types don't give a damn about the countless lives that were given in defense of our constitution?  But then again you types will never know or understand what this country is about or what it means to be a real american.

Amen!  That's right!

Hmmm...then you really think you represent the entire country?...and you think your neighbors are out to get you?
No, of course you aren't all my foes. That is very self centered thinking don't you think? I have a bunch of friends out there, most of whom see no point in writing on here any longer. Go ahead and be as rude as you want. .I would expect no less from you, the few minority out there. Go ahead and brag about your exploits....see if any body believes them. You would think the only military ever in the world came from Elk County.
Ya got anything good to say about anybody? Maybe your brags are all lies and hot air! You don't believe me, why should I believe you? Even the NRA is rethinking their stand in view of recent events. If all you can do is spew hate and garbage, are you even safe around guns?
Bull, you threaten me again and you will have something to worry about. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
I still say normal gun owners ,not the fanatics, have nothing to worry about. My word.This country started right here, the original 13 states ,so it was our "gutless wonders" who stood up to the British and moved our country into the reality of a separate entity. I guess you had quit school before the teacher got to that part, huh? Part of my mom's family were already here and fought in the Revolutionary War. Your  rants and insults mean nothing.I would expect no less. It's the mark of people who really have nothing to intelligent to say, so they stoop to character assassination,slander and libel. You sound very dangerous to me. Eek.  By the way, we own at least seven guns...I think I've lost count.

Diane, you never know when to shut up, you always have too have the last word. Why don't you get someone back there to start a Forum and you can be the Queen on it and leave us out here to our own interests.

Its no wonder that the american public school system has fallen as low as it has with people like you teaching the kids!!!  What part of my last post said anything about my neighbors?

Do I represent the entire country?  Nope. Never said I did.  But I do know that there are still some REAL americans left that still believe in individual freedom and responsibility, and that will still stand in defense of the Constituition.  I understand that you and your ilk will never do that, you believe that the gov't knows how to best run your lives, you have no understanding of the Constitution and will gladly give up the RIGHTS and freedoms it protects.  You are nothing more than sheep and deserve neither the Rights given by the constituiton nor the title of American. 
As for the NRA, what do they have to do with anything?  I don't give a damn about their stand on gun control, the Constitution is very clear on the matter.  It states that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, period!  I don't need the nra, the president, supreme court, or anyone else to explain that to me.  As for the number of guns you have...that is typical of a gun control advocate.  You want to be able to possess firearms while denying others the same freedom.
I don't care what your mothers people did.  Their exploits do not cover you complete lack of understanding freedom or the constitution.
I have never bragged about my exploits nor if I did would I care if anyone believed them or not.  I know what I have done and have nothing to prove to anyone.  I do not have a need to constantly reinforce my ego by talking about how many friends I have or what I have done.
You are right about one thing though..I am dangerous if backed into a corner and my freedoms threatened.

Yup, what a waste. Go ahead and be who you are. I guess you can't help it.  Apparently you don't understand that our rights extend to all citizens, not just certain ones who think they speak for all.  I always thought you were proud of your schools...guess not.
So, if insulting your own teachers, some of who read your posts, will fix anything, you might want to go back to school yourselves. Why compare your schools with inner city Chicago as some have done? It shows a real lack of understanding of what teachers are up against. Between bad parenting and absent kids, the really good teachers hardly stand a chance, but they never give up anyway. I wish you had enough sense to appreciate what you have.
Please go to some school and learn to read.You are committing libel. By  twisting words and misquoting things that many of us have said, if that's the best you can do, then people should understand how dangerous you really are, huh? Ooh what a big shot!
and so jealous of "them."
You make it sound like guns are all there is. No family, no morals ,no commandments, no church, no cohesive community just things that kill and make noise.
I wish you would be as concerned with the many hundreds of families,especially children, who have been lost to gunfire.
   Varmit...you are so isolated out there, by your own admission, your "'neighbors'' are all that live there, so I guess that's all there would be to shoot at ,right?
  What are you so afraid of? It sounds more like a selfish obsession, with no concern for the feelings or rights of others. How about trying to help solve the problem? How about some constructive solutions that aren't just pipe dreams? Hey,lets put little 22's in cereal as premiums like they used to do dishes and towels? Yes, of course I'm kidding.
Don't you folks care about the rest of the Constitution and the other amendments? Real Americans value and understand it all, not just one piece.
I still say people who lawfully own and use guns have nothing to worry about.  States rights and constitutions should take care of that.There is nothing wrong with back ground checks where ever and how ever guns and ammo are sold,and limits on how many guns can be sold at one time to one person, especially if the buyer is a stranger to the seller. It might not be the total answer, but it would surely help. What's the hurry anyway? There are people for whom guns should be forbidden.
Varmit, you are very rude and very spooky. How did you ever pass the psychological to own guns in the first place? ;)
I guess I'll stop by the firearms show at our fire house tomorrow and see how many visitors put on clean t-shirts and put their teeth in for the big event. ;) Now go away and play with your guns....And DO NOT read what I write...you aren't adult enough to handle it objectively .Bye- bye snookums. 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Your firehouse is having a firearms show tomorrow ? That's odd . Wonder why the Aetna Hose, Hook and Ladder Company web site never mentioned it, nor did I read anything about it in The News Journal. Did I just miss it some where or is not open to the public ?

Jarhead, do you have an address or telephone number for the Firehouse. I would like to call them, I have never heard of a firehouse having a gun show.

The main fire stations # is 302-454-3300

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From CNN:
Washington (CNN) – With the stroke of a pen Thursday, President Barack Obama gave himself and his wife Secret Service protection for the rest of their lives.

The new law, which passed the House and Senate in December, designates that all former U.S. presidents who served after January 1, 1997, along with their spouses, receive protection from the Secret Service for their entire lifetimes – meaning former President George W. Bush and his wife Laura are also covered. The law also stipulates that children of presidents receive protection until the age of 16.

Lifetime government-provided security for former presidents was the law of the land until 1997, when Congress passed legislation limiting Secret Service protection to ten years after leaving office.

The 1997 law said any president serving before January 1, 1997 would still receive the lifelong protection. That means with the law signed Thursday, every former president – Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush – along with Obama will continue to receive Secret Service details for the rest of their lives.

(....)

From InfoWars:
Despite launching a gun control agenda that threatens to disarm the American people, President Obama has signed a bill that would afford him armed Secret Service protection for life.

"The legislation, crafted by Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, rolls back a mid-1990s law that imposed a 10-year limit on Secret Service protection for former presidents. Bush would have been the first former commander in chief affected," reports Yahoo News.

The new bill, which will cost American taxpayers millions of dollars, is a re-instatement of a 1965 law which will see presidents protected for life as well as their children up to age 16.

The irony of Obama seeking to surround himself with armed men for the rest of his life while simultaneously working to disarm the American people via a gun control agenda that is likely to be enforced via executive decree represents the height of hypocrisy.

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But it's not the first time that Obama has lauded the notion of responsible Americans using firearms to protect himself and his family while concurrently eviscerating that very same right for the American people.

During an ABC Nightline interview broadcast on December 26 yet recorded before the Sandy Hook shooting, Obama said one of the benefits of his re-election was the ability "to have men with guns around at all times," in order to protect his daughters.

In addition, the school attended by Obama's daughters in Washington D.C. has no less than 11 armed security guards [plus 4 Secret Serice Agents] on duty at all times, yet the idea of arming teachers and school officials to prevent school massacres has been dismissed by gun control advocates who want school campuses to remain "gun free zones" where victims are disarmed and shooters are free to carry out their rampage unimpeded.

The hypocrisy of gun control advocates who feverishly work to create victim disarmament yet surround themselves with armed men is rampant amongst the political class.


Hmmmm... maybe Obuma isn't as stupid as we thought, signing that bill.  He probably knows he will need it.

Jar, the 3300 number is for station 9, st.8, where the hall is ...302-454-3308, is the radio room...454-3304,is the managers office. The bar...454-3305. Unless you hurry you'll miss it ;D ;D ;D. Plus it costs, I think $5.00 to get in, not sure on that. Yes, it's open to the public. It's on the marquee out front. I'll have to check, I don't know if it's on the website..haven't looked at anything but the private members only part and mail recently.
We're ramping up for our 125th anniversary and they are making some changes to the website.

Diane, thank you for finally admitting that you favor control! 

QuoteI still say people who lawfully own and use guns have nothing to worry about.  States rights and constitutions should take care of that.There is nothing wrong with back ground checks where ever and how ever guns and ammo are sold,and limits on how many guns can be sold at one time to one person, especially if the buyer is a stranger to the seller. It might not be the total answer, but it would surely help. What's the hurry anyway? There are people for whom guns should be forbidden.

As fas as "libel"...you are just as guilty as anyone here. 

Thank you for also finally showing your leftist, liberal colors!  Although many have suspected you of being a liberal, your recent attempts at personal attacks and insults have given proof.  Yes, I know both sides have used the same tactics, but you readily fall back on them when you cannot return an argument with any logic or facts.

Oh, and for the record, if it wasn't for the second admendment, we wouldn't have any of the others.  That is a fact that you liberal cowards will never understand.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 11, 2013, 07:44:50 PM
Yup, what a waste. Go ahead and be who you are. I guess you can't help it.  Apparently you don't understand that our rights extend to all citizens, not just certain ones who think they speak for all.  I always thought you were proud of your schools...guess not.
So, if insulting your own teachers, some of who read your posts, will fix anything, you might want to go back to school yourselves.

So Mrs. I am better than everyone else is going to throw a tantrum because she does not like what other people feel and express.... Wow big shocker there!!! 

QuoteWhy compare your schools with inner city Chicago as some have done? It shows a real lack of understanding of what teachers are up against. Between bad parenting and absent kids, the really good teachers hardly stand a chance, but they never give up anyway. I wish you had enough sense to appreciate what you have.

Oh and you would know a lot about bad parenting right?? Who or what made you an expert? Oh I get it you did wrong to your children when they were younger?? You have not one single "christianly" thing to say here! You criticize and judge people when that is not your place it is God's!! So unless I have died and gone down under you my "snookems" are not my Lord and Savior!

QuotePlease go to some school and learn to read.You are committing libel. By  twisting words and misquoting things that many of us have said, if that's the best you can do, then people should understand how dangerous you really are, huh? Ooh what a big shot!
and so jealous of "them."

You have a lot of room to speak here huh Diane? You do not live here and should honestly in my opinion go start your own blog for your "home" turf and stop your unwanted drama on here. If you have a true problem with someone executing their first ammendment right then you too are not the smartest cookie in the jar either?!?

QuoteYou make it sound like guns are all there is. No family, no morals ,no commandments, no church, no cohesive community just things that kill and make noise.

He never said that and you have no idea who he is if you think that! You need to get your head out of the clouds and come down to planet earth and open your eyes!!

QuoteI wish you would be as concerned with the many hundreds of families,especially children, who have been lost to gunfire.
   Varmit...you are so isolated out there, by your own admission, your "'neighbors'' are all that live there, so I guess that's all there would be to shoot at ,right?

Yeah that is it! We are so ignorant we are just gonna walk outside in our jammies to open fire!! My goodness you have some serious issues you need help on!!
 

QuoteWhat are you so afraid of? It sounds more like a selfish obsession, with no concern for the feelings or rights of others. How about trying to help solve the problem? How about some constructive solutions that aren't just pipe dreams? Hey,lets put little 22's in cereal as premiums like they used to do dishes and towels? Yes, of course I'm kidding.
Don't you folks care about the rest of the Constitution and the other amendments? Real Americans value and understand it all, not just one piece.
I still say people who lawfully own and use guns have nothing to worry about.  States rights and constitutions should take care of that.There is nothing wrong with back ground checks where ever and how ever guns and ammo are sold,and limits on how many guns can be sold at one time to one person, especially if the buyer is a stranger to the seller. It might not be the total answer, but it would surely help. What's the hurry anyway? There are people for whom guns should be forbidden.
Varmit, you are very rude and very spooky. How did you ever pass the psychological to own guns in the first place? ;)
I guess I'll stop by the firearms show at our fire house tomorrow and see how many visitors put on clean t-shirts and put their teeth in for the big event. ;) Now go away and play with your guns....And DO NOT read what I write...you aren't adult enough to handle it objectively .Bye- bye snookums. 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You know I am not my husbands keeper and I will never ask him to not stand up for what he believes. I am also not here to badger you and this become some more drama that you can attempt to make yourself feel better about. I am just as outspoken as he is and I feel I have let you talk enough lies and crap on my husband that I wanted to come say something for myself. You have no right to speak for other's either. You want to insist on people returning to school... I am in school and I can read imagine that!! WOW!! But I will be looking for my check in the mail from you since you feel that my education is not good enough or my husbands for that fact and we will put your check towards school.. For both of us! You have some nerve like I told you last time. If you want to tell him to not read your posts then do not blast him on here and force his hand to shut you down and prove you wrong. It really does just look bad for you.. Not him! I am sure many on here will agree. I do not understand how someone can be so naive and blonde if you will when it comes to being an AMERICAN!! See the people here who bust their tails working and taking care of farms down here feed your fat mouth up there... Maybe you should respect your "HOME ROOTS" and stop bad mouthing people. Go to church confess to Jesus and know that We meaning my wonderful loving husband, our SIX children (that are NOT abused) and myself will most certainly pray for you..
Oh.. I almost forgot...  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :angel: :angel: :angel: God bless you...

The Big List of Who Hates Guns

by Mike Piccione - Editor, Guns & Gear

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/01/the-big-list-of-who-hates-guns


I was cruising the web reading gun articles and then I started wondering about writing an article on anti-gun organizations and people. Since anti-gunners are always saying "no one wants to take your guns away" or they want me to live under their take of "sensible gun laws" (neither of which I believe to be prudent, sensible or anything remotely truthful) I figured I would go to the NRA's Institute of Legislative Action to find out who are the people that want to be sure that I can't defend my home or go shooting my .22 in the woods (both heinous acts of human behavior to be sure).

So, hats off the the NRA-ILA team for compiling this list. Here is what the NRA-ILA team had to say:


The following organizations have lent monetary, grassroots or some other type of direct support to anti-gun organizations. In many instances, these organizations lent their name in support of specific campaigns to pass anti-gun legislation such as the March 1995 HCI "Campaign to Protect Sane Gun Laws." Many of these organizations were listed as "Campaign Partners," for having pledged to fight any efforts to repeal the Brady Act and the Clinton "assault weapons" ban. All have officially endorsed anti-gun positions.

AARP
AFL-CIO
Ambulatory Pediatric Association
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Civil Liberties Union
American Academy of Ambulatory Care Nursing
American Medical Women`s Association
American Medical Student Association
American Medical Association
American Association for the Surgery of Trauma
American Trauma Society
American Federation of Teachers
American Association of School Administrators
American Alliance for Rights and Responsibilities
American Medical Association
American Bar Association
American Counseling Association
American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Association for World Health
American Ethical Union
American Nurses Association
American Association of Neurological Surgeons
American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences
American Firearms Association
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Jewish Committee
American Trauma Society
American Psychological Association
American Jewish Congress
American Public Health Association
Americans for Democratic Action
Anti-Defamation League
Black Mental Health Alliance
B`nai B`rith
Central Conference of American Rabbis
Children`s Defense Fund
Church of the Brethren
Coalition for Peace Action
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
College Democrats of America
Committee for the Study of Handgun Misuse & World Peace
Common Cause
Congress of National Black Churches, Inc.
Congress of Neurological Surgeons
Consumer Federation of America
Council of the Great City Schools
Council of Chief State School Officers
Dehere Foundation
Disarm Educational Fund
Environmental Action Foundation
Episcopal Church-Washington Office
Florence and John Shumann Foundation
Friends Committee on National Legislation
General Federation of Women`s Clubs
George Gund Fun
Gray Panthers
H.M. Strong Foundation
Hadassah
Harris Foundation
Hechinger Foundation
Interfaith Neighbors
Int`l Ladies` Garment Workers` Union
Int`l Association of Educators for World Peace
Jewish Labor Committee
Joyce Foundation
Lauder Foundation
Lawrence Foundation
League of Women Voters of the United States*
Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Manhattan Project II
Mennonite Central Committee-Washington Office
National Safe Kids Campaign
National Association of Police Organizations
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Black Nurses` Association
National Association of Chain Drug Stores
National Network for Youth
National Assembly of National Voluntary Health & Social Welfare Organizations
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
National Association of School Psychologists
National Association of Counties*
National Association of Pediatric Nurse Associates & Practitioners
National Association of School Safety and Law Enforcement Officers
National Education Association
National Association of Elementary School Principals*
National Association of Public Hospitals
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Association of Secondary School Principals
National Association of Social Workers
National Association of Children`s Hospitals and Related Institutions
National Association of School Psychologists
National Council of La Raza
National Center to Rehabilitate Violent Youth
National Commission for Economic Conversion & Disarmament
National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA
National Council of Negro Women
National Association of Community Health Centers
National People`s Action
National Education Association*
National League of Cities
National Council on Family Relations
National Council of Jewish Women
National Organization for Women
National Political Congress of Black Women
National Parks and Conservation Association
National Peace Foundation
National Urban League, Inc.
National Parent, Teachers Association*
National Urban Coalition
National SAFE KIDS Campaign
National Organization on Disability
National Spinal Cord Injury Association
NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby
Ortenberg Foundation
Peace Action
People for the American Way
Physicians for Social Responsibility
Police Foundation
Project on Demilitarization and Democracy
Public Citizen
SaferWorld
Society of Critical Care Medicine
Southern Christian Leadership Conference
The Council of the Great City Schools
The Synergetic Society
20/20 Vision
U.S. Catholic Conference, Dept. of Social Development
Union of American Hebrew Congregations
Unitarian Universalist Association
United States Catholic Conference
United Methodist Church, General Board & Church Society
United Church of Christ, Office for Church in Society*
United States Conference of Mayors
War and Peace Foundation
Women Strike for Peace
Women`s National Democratic Club
Women`s Action for New Directions (WAND)
Women`s Int`l League for Peace and Freedom
World Spiritual Assembly, Inc.
YWCA of the U.S.A.

*The national organization only endorses federal legislation.

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Anti-Gun Individuals & Celebrities
The following celebrities and national figures have lent their name and notoriety to anti-gun causes, speaking out for anti-gun legislation and providing a voice for anti-gun organizations.

Celebrities: [Keep in mind, that at least two-thirds of these celeb's have made movies depicting gun violence... Warph].

Krista Allen – Actress

Suzy Amis – Actress

Louis Anderson – Comedian

Richard Dean Anderson – Actor

Maya Angelou – Poet

David Arquette – Actor

Ed Asner – Actor

Alec Baldwin – Actor

Bob Barker – TV Personality

Carol Bayer Sager – Composer

Drew Barrymore – Actress

Kevin Bacon – Actor

Lauren Bacall – Actress*

Sarah Ban Breathnach – Writer

William Baldwin – Actor

Candice Bergen – Actress

Richard Belzer – Actor

Tony Bennett – Singer

Boys II Men – Pop Group

Jon Bon Jovi – Singer

Peter Bogdonovich – Director

Peter Bonerz – Actor

Albert Brooks – Actor

Beau Bridges – Actor

Benjamin Bratt – Actor

Bonnie Bruckheimer – Movie Producer

Christie Brinkley – Model

Dr. Joyce Brothers – Psychologist/Author

James Brolin – Actor

James Brooks – TV Producer

Mel Brooks – Actor/Director

Betty Buckley – Actress

Ellen Burstyn – Actress

Steve Buscemi – Actor

David Canary – Actor

Kate Capshaw – Actress

Kim Cattrall- Actress

Josh Charles – Actor

Robert Chartloff – Producer

Stockard Channing – Actress

Jill Clayburgh – Actress

Terri Clark – Singer

George Clooney – Actor

Jackie Cooper – Actor/Director*

Jennifer Connelly – Actress

Judy Collins – Singer

Kevin Costner – Actor

Sean Connery – Actor

Sheryl Crow – Singer

Billy Crystal- Actor

Julie Cypher – Director

Arlene Dahl – Actress

Clive Davis – Writer

Linda Dano – Actress

Matt Damon – Actor

Pam Dawber – Actress

Patrika Darbo – Actress

Stuart Damon – Actor

Ellen Degeneres – Actress

Gavin de Becker – Writer

Rebecca DeMornay – Actress

Danny DeVito – Actor

Michael Douglas – Actor

Phil Donahue – Talk Show Host

Richard Donner – Director

Fran Drescher – Actress

Richard Dreyfus – Actor

David Duchovny – Actor

Sandy Duncan – Actress

Christine Ebersole – Actress

Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds – Singer

Missy Elliott – Singer

Nora Ephron – Director

Gloria Estefan – Singer

Melissa Etheridge – Singer

Mia Farrow – Actress

Mike Farrell – Actor

Carrie Fisher – Actress

Sally Field – Actress

Doug Flutie – NFL player

Fannie Flagg – Actress

Jane Fonda – Actress

Jodie Foster – Actress

Rick Fox – NBA Player

Andy Garcia – Actor

Art Garfunkel – Singer

Geraldo – TV personality

Richard Gere – Actor

Kathie Lee Gifford – TV personality

Paul Glaser – TV director

Brad Gooch – Writer

Elliott Gould – Actor

Louis Gossett, Jr. – Actor

Michael Gross – Actor

Nancy Lee Grahn – Actress

Bryant Gumbel – TV Personality

Deidra Hall – Actress

Ethan Hawke – Actor

Mariette Hartley – Actress

Mark Harmon – Actor

Anne Heche – Actress

Howard Hessman – Actor

Marilu Henner – Actress

Dustin Hoffman – Actor

Hal Holbrook – Actor*

Helen Hunt – Actress

Grace-Lynne Ingle – Actress

John Ingle – Actor

Francesca James – TV Producer

Norman Jewison – Director

Lainie Kazan – Actress

Richard Karn – Actor

Jeffrey Katzenberg – Producer

Barry Kemp – TV Producer

David E. Kelley – TV Producer

Diane Keaton – Actress

Margaret Kemp – Interior Designer

Chaka Khan – Singer

Coreta Scott King – Activist

Kevin Kline – Actor

Michael E. Knight – Actor

Jonathan Kozol – Writer

William Kovacs – Director

Lenny Kravits – Singer

Lisa Kudrow – Actress

Wally Kurth – Actor

Christine Lahti – Actress

k.d. lang – Singer

Ricki Lake – TV personality

Denis Leary – Actor

John Leguizamo – Actor

Norman Lear – TV Producer

Spike Lee – Director

Hal Linden – Actor

Lisa Linde – Actress

Tara Lipinski – Former Olympian

Keyshawn Johnson – NFL player

Rob Lowe – Actor

Amanda Marshall – Singer

Barry Manilow – Singer

Camryn Manheim – Actress

Howie Mandel – Actor

Kyle MacLachlan – Actor

Madonna – Singer

Marla Maples – Actress

Marsha Mason – Actress*

Mase – Singer

Penny Marshall – Director

Prema Mathai-Davis – YWCA Official

John McDaniel – Musician

John McEnroe – Athlete

Brian McKnight – Musician

Natalie Merchant – Singer

Bette Midler – Singer

Shane Minor – Musician

Mary Tyler Moore – Actress

Michael Moore – Film Maker

Norval Morris – Law Professor

Mike Myers – Actor

N Sync – Music group

Kathy Najimy – Actress

Jack Nicholson – Actor

Leonard Nimoy – Actor

Mike Nichols – Director

Stephen Nichols – Actor

Rosie O`Donnel l- Actress/Talk Show Host

Jennifer O Neill – Actress

Julia Ormond – Actress

Jane Pauley – TV Personality

Sarah Jessica Parker – Actress

Mandy Patinkin – Actor

Richard North Patterson – Writer

Rhea Perlman- Actress

Michelle Pfieffer – Actress

Sydney Pollack – Director

Aidan Quinn – Actor

Colin Quinn – Actor

Dennis Quaid – Actor

Elizabeth Bracco Quinn – Actress

Bonnie Raitt – Singer

Debbie Reynolds – Actress

Mary Lou Retton – Former Olympian

Paul Reiser – Actor

Peter Reckell – Actor

Rob Reiner – Actor/Director

Robert Redford – Actor/Director

Anne Rice – Writer

Cathy Rigby – Actress

Julia Roberts – Actress

Marc Rosen – TV Producer

Tim Robbins – Actor

Tim Roth – Actor

Renee Russo – Actress

Robin Ruzan – Wife of Mike Myers

Meg Ryan – Actress

Susan Sarandon – Actress

Jerry Seinfeld – Actor

Kyra Sedgwick – Actress

Martin Sheen – Actor

Russell Simmons – Record Producer

Neil Simon – Playwright*

Louise Sorel – Actress

Mira Sorvino – Actress

Rena Sofer – Actress

Britney Spears – Singer

Bruce Springsteen – Singer

Kevin Spirtas – Actor

Barbra Streisand – Singer

David Steinberg – Director

Sylvester Stallone – Actor

Harry Dean Stanton – Actor

Meryl Streep – Actress

Patrick Stewart – Actor

Sharon Stone – Actress

Sting – Singer

Trudie Styler – Actress

Jonathan Taylor Thomas – Actor

The Temptations – Pop Group

Vinny Testaverde – NFL player

Marlo Thomas – Actress*

Uma Thurman – Actress

Steve Tisch – Producer

Mike Torrez – Former Baseball player

Shania Twain – Singer

Dick Van Dyke – Actor

Eli Wallach – Actor*

Ruth Warrick – Actress

Harvey Weinstein – Producer

Jann Wenner – Publisher

Sigourney Weaver – Actress

Victor Webster – Actor

James Whitmore – Actor*

Andy Williams – Singer*

Kelli Williams – Actress

Henry Winkler – Actor

Oprah Winfrey – Entertainer

Rita Wilson – Actress

Vanessa Williams – Singer

Herman Wouk – Author

Joanne Woodward – Actress*

Peter Yarrow – Singer

Catherine Zeta-Jones – Actress

Ahmet Zappa -Actor

Diva Zappa -Actress

Dweezil Zappa – Musician

Gail Zappa -

Moon Zappa -Actress



* Denotes membership on

Brady Campaign`s National Committee



National Figures:

Joel J. Alpert M.D. – Pediatrician

Robert Bernstein Ph.D – Pediatrician

Robert E. Brennan – Financier

Bishop Edmond Browning – Espiscopal Leader

James E. Carter – Former President

Marion Wright Edelman – Director, Childrens Defense Fund

Michael Eisner, Former Chairman and CEO The Walt Disney Company

Ahmet Ertegun – Music Producer

Amitai Etzioni – Teacher

Tom Freston – MTV President

Dr. Lorraine E. Hale – Social Worker

Della M. Hughes – Activist

Ed Koch – Former Politician

C. Everett Koop – Former Surgeon General

Rev. Wallace Ryan Kuroiwa – Clergyman

Davis S. Liederman – Ex. Dir. Child Welfare League

Paul Rabbi Menitaff – Clergyman

Abner Mikva – Former Judge

Richard Parsons – Pres. Time Warner

Steven Rockefeller – Financier

Ellen Y. Rosenberg – Activist

Rabbi David Saperstein – Clergyman

Herb Scannel – Pres. Nickelodeon

Vincent Schiraldi – Dir. Justice Policy Institute

Lyle Elmer Strom – Federal Judge

Joe Volk – Clergyman

Rabbi Eric H. Yoffie – Clergyman





The following journalists actively editorialize in favor of gun control laws:

Steve Benson – Cartoonist

Tony Auth – Cartoonist

Jim Borgman – Cartoonist

Jimmy Breslin – Columnist

Stuart Carlson – Cartoonist

Marie Cocco – Columnist

E.J. Dionne Jr. – Columnist

Bonnie Erbe – Columnist

Tom Fiedler – Columnist

Michael Gartner – Columnist

Mark Genrich – Columnist

James Glassman – Editor

Bob Herbert – Columnist

Bill Johnson – Columnist

Donald Kaul – Columnist

Mike Lane – Cartoonist

Leonard Larson – Columnist

Mike Luckovich – Cartoonist

Jimmy Margulies – Cartoonist

Deborah Mathis – Columnist

Colman McCarthy – Columnist

Jim Morin – Cartoonist

Tom Oliphant- Columnist

Mike Peters – Cartoonist

Robert Reno – Columnist

Frank Rich – Columnist

Cindy Richards – Columnist

Kevin Siers- Cartoonist

Ed Stein – Cartoonist

Tom Teepen – Editor

Tim Toles – Cartoonist

Garry Trudeau – Cartoonist

Cynthia Tucker – Columnist

Steve Twomey – Columnist

Steve Villano – Columnist

Adrienne Washington – Columnist

Don Wright – Cartoonist



Anti-Gun Corporations/Corporate Heads
The following listing includes the most prominent national corporations that have lent their corporate support to gun control initiatives or taken position supporting gun control.  

A & M Records
Al Cafaro, Chrm. & CEO
595 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10022
(212) 826-0477
www.amrecords.com
Record Production, Entertainment

American Century Companies
James E. Stowers, CEO
4500 Main St., 4th Floor
Kansas City, MO 64111
(816) 531-5575
www.americancentury.com
Mutual Fund & Stock Investment Company on NYSE

American Multi Cinemas Entertainment, Inc.
Stanley H. Durwood, Co-Chairman, CEO Peter C. Brown, President, CFO
106 West 14th Street, #1700
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 221-4000
www.amctheaters.com
Movie Theater Company

Ben & Jerry`s Homemade, Inc.

Bennett R. Cohen Chrm. & CEO
Rte. 100, Box 240
Waterbury, VT 05676
(802) 244-5641
www.benjerry.com
Ice cream and frozen yogurt

BJC Health Systems
Fred L. Brown, President & CEO
4444 Forest Park Ave.
St. Louis, MO 63108
(314) 747-9322
www.bjc.org/
Healthcare Company

Blue Cross Blue Shield – Kansas City
John P. Mascotte, President
P.O. Box 419169
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 395-2222
Healthcare Company

Brooks Investments-Robert Brooks
Robert Brooks
45 Chesterfield Lakes Road
Chesterfield, MO 63005
Investment Company

Carter Hawley Hale Stores, Inc.
Philip M. Hawley, Chrm. & CEO
444 South Flower Street
Los Angeles, CA 90071
(213) 620-0150
Retail clothing and accessories stores

Crown Central Petroleum Corp.
Henry A. Rosenberg, Jr.
One North Central Street Box 1168
Baltimore, MD 21203
(301) 539-7400
Refiners and marketers of petroleum products, convenience stores

Development Specialists – Chicago
70 W. Madison Street, #2300
Chicago, IL 60602
(312) 263-4141

Earthgrains – St. Louis
8400 Maryland Ave.
St. Louis, MO 63105
(314) 259-7000
www.ironkids.com/Pages/Earthgrains.html
National Bread Company

General American – St. Louis
Richard A. Liddy, CEO
P.O. Box 396
St. Louis, MO 63166
(314) 843-8700
www.genam.com
Life Insurance

Hallmark Cards
Irvine O. Hockaday, President & CEO
P.O. Box 418307
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 274-5111
www.hallmark.com
Greeting Card Company

Health Midwest
2316 East Meyer Boulevard
Kansas City, MO 64132
(816) 751-3000
www.healthmidwest.org
National Healthcare Company

ICN Biomedicals
Adam Jerney, Chrm. & CEO
3300 Hyland Avenue
Costa Mesa, CA 92626
(714) 545-0113
www.icnbiomed.com
Pharmaceutical products

James B. Nutter Co. – Kansas City
James B. Nutter
4153 Broadway
Kansas City, MO 64111
(816) 531-2345
Investment Banker

Kansas City Chiefs
One Arrowhead Drive
Kansas City, MO 64129
(816) 924-9300
www.kcchiefs.com
Pro Football Team>
                                  <Both teams big losers!!!
Kansas City Royals>
David Glass, CEO
P.O. Box 419969
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 921-8000
www.kcroyals.com
Pro Baseball Team

Kenneth Cole
152 W. 57th Street
New York, NY 10019
(800) 536-2653
www.kennethcole.com
Clothing retailer

Lamar Advertising Company
Lamar Outdoor Advertising
5551 Corporate Boulevard, Suite 2-A
Baton Rouge, LA 70808
P. O. Box 66338
Baton Rouge, LA 70896
(225) 926-1000
Fax (225) 926-1005
www.lamar.com

Levi Strauss & Co.
Robert D. Haas, Chairman
Philip Marineau, CEO
Peter A. Jacobi, President and COO
1155 Battery St.
San Francisco, CA 94111
(415) 501-6000
FAX (415) 501-3939
www.levistrauss.com
Clothing

Mallinckrodt, Inc. – St. Louis
C. Ray Holman, President & CEO
675 McDonnell Blvd, Box 5840
St. Louis, MO 63134
(314) 654-2000
www.mallinckrodt.com
Clothing Starch Company

Michael Douglas Foundation
3550 Wilshire
Los Angele, CA 90010

MNC Financial, Inc.
Ten Light Street Box 987
Baltimore, MD 21203
(301) 244-5000
Banking, financial services

Sara Lee Corporation
Sara Lee Foundation
Three First National Plaza
Chicago, IL 60602-4260
Phone: 312-726-2600
www.saralee.com
Fax: 312-726-3712

Silver Dollar City
Peter Herschend
One Corporate Drive
Branson, MO 65616
800 475-9370
www.silverdollarcity.com
Amusement Parks

Site Oil Company – St. Louis
Alvin J. Siteman, President
50 S. Bemiston
St. Louis, MO 63105
(314) 725-4321
Oil Company

Southland Corporation
Masatoshi Ito, Chrm.
2711 North Haskell Avenue
Dallas, TX 75221
www.7-eleven.com
Convenience stores

Southwestern Bell Telephone- St. Louis
One Bell Center
St. Louis, MO 63101
(314) 235-9800
www.swbell.com
Telecommunications Firm

Sport & Health, Inc.
Don Konz, CEO
1800 Old Meadow Rd.
McLean, Virginia 22102
(703) 556-6556
www.sportandhealth.com
Health clubs and fitness centers

Sprint Corp PAC
Westwood, KS 66205
913 624-3000
www.sprint.com
Telecommunicaitons Firm

SSM Health System – St. Louis
477 N. Lindbergh
St. Louis, MO 63141
(314) 994-7800
Healthcare Company

St. Louis Rams
One Rams Way
Earth City, MO 63045
(314) 982-7267
www.stlouisrams.com
Pro Football Team

St. Louis University
Rev. Lawrence Biondi, President
221 N. Grand Blvd.
St. Louis, MO 63103
(314) 977-2222
www.slu.edu
Private Catholic University

Stoneyfield Farms Yogurt
Mr. Gary Hirshberg, CEO
10 Burton Drive
Londonderry, NH 03053
(603) 437-7594
Yogurt

Sverdrup Corp.
Richard E. Beumer,
Chairman & CEO
13723 Riverport Drive
Maryland Heights, MO 63043
(314) 436-7600
www.sverdrup.com
Engineering Firm

Time Warner Inc.
Gerald M. Levin, Chrm. & CEO
75 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10019
(212) 484-8000
www.pathfinder.com/corp/
Publishing, film and music recordings

TMP Worldwide/Monster.Com
Andrew McKelvey, CEO
1633 Broadway, 33rd Fl.
New York, NY 10019
Phone: 212-977-4200
Fax: 212-956-2142
www.tmpw.com
www.monster.com
online employment service

Unity Health – St. Louis
1650 Des Peres Road #301
St. Louis, MO 63131
(314) 909-3300
www.smhs.com/unityheath.html
Healthcare Company

Working Assets
Peter Barnes, Founder
701 Montgomery Street
San Francisco, California 94111
(415) 788-0777
www.workingassets.com


Publication and Media Outlets
The following publications and media outlets have assisted in the attack on Second Amendment rights. The editorial policies of some of the media sources listed portray firearms in a negative manner in an attempt to generate public support for restrictions on firearms ownership. Others have refused some or all of NRA`s advertisements.

Capital Cities/ABC
Television Network
77 W. 66th Street
New York, NY 10023-6298
(212) 456-7777

Bell Atlantic-D.C.
2055 L Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20036
(202) 392-9900

Blue Chip Stamps
15801 S. Eastern Avenue
Los Angeles, CA 90040
(213) 720-4600

The Christian Publishing Society
The Christian Science Monitor
One Norway Street
Boston, MA 02115
(508) 586-6200

Columbia Broadcasting Service
CBS Television Network
51 W. 52nd Street
New York, NY 10019
(212) 975-4321

Corporation For Public Broadcasting/ PBS Television
1320 Braddock Place
Alexandria, VA 22314-1698
(703) 739-5000
(703) 739-0775 – Fax

Cox Newspapers
Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Credibank Towers, Suite 400
2800 Biscayne Blvd.
Miami, FL 33137
(305) 576-7678

Gannett News Service
USA Today
1000 Wilson Blvd.
Arlington, VA 22229
(703) 276-5806

Johnson Publishing Company, Inc.
Ebony Magazine
820 S. Michigan avenue
Chicago, IL 60605-2190
(312) 322-9250

Knight-Ridder Newspapers
Detroit Free-Press
321 W. LaFayette Blvd.
Detroit, MI 48231
(313) 222-6400

Miami Herald
One Herald Plaza
Miami, FL 33132-1683
(305) 350-2111

Los Angeles Times
Times Mirror Square
Los Angeles, California 90053
(213) 237-4511
(213) 237-7679 – Fax

McCall`s Magazine
110 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10017-5603
(212) 463-1000

Motorcycle Cruiser Magazine
Emap PLC
6420 Wilshire Blvd., Floor 17
Los Angeles, California 90048
(323) 782-2000

National Broadcasting Company
NBC Television Network
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112
(212) 664-4444

Newsweek, Inc.
Newsweek Magazine
444 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10022-6999
(212) 350-4000

Rolling Stone Magazine
Jann Wenner, Chrm. & CEO
745 5th, Avenue
New York, NY 10151
(212) 758-3800

The New York Times Corporation
The New York Times
229 W. 43rd Street
New York, NY 10036
(212) 556-1234

Time Magazine
Time & Life Building
Rockefeller Center
New York, NY 10020
(212) 522-1212

Times-Mirror Corporation
The Los Angeles Times
Times Mirror Square
Los Angeles, CA 90053
(213) 237-3000

The Baltimore Sun
501 N. Calvert Street
Baltimore, MD 21278
(301) 332-6300

The Tribune Company
Chicago Tribune
435 N. Michigan Avenue
Chicago, IL 60611
(312) 227-3000

Washington Post
1150 15th Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20071
(202) 334-6000

Editor's Note: Steve Norton contacted me to be removed from this list. Steve was with Argosy Casino and left many years ago. He is a supporter of the Constitution and the right to keep and bear arms. He has been removed.

My thanks to the National Rifle Association's Institute of Legislative Action for keeping an eye on our Second Amendment for all of us. And to all those that want to curtail the right to keep and bear arms...we are watching you.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/01/the-big-list-of-who-hates-guns/#ixzz2HvZIIvtF

I'm sorry a few of you are so indoctrinated as to not know the difference between gun regulation and gun control.
Some of you also don't understand the difference between speaking to someone personally and talking generally and situationally. With some of you, actual discussion and debate on national  topics is impossible, because a few have to declare an" enemy" as prey, with themselves as predator. Rather primitive, but so be it.
Wives "protecting" husbands sounds wimpy, but who cares. Anyone should be allowed to have an opinion,even out of control useless playground ranting.
  Bad parenting? Ask any teacher! We see it a lot. Why would anyone be surprised?
Going back to school...great idea, always. if nothing else, reading comprehension levels and thinking skills can always be improved. Night schools, such as Groves, can be tough. I always admire those who finally see the reason for their degree and accept the challenge to buckle down,work hard and succeed. It's not easy! I've never known anyone who regretted doing it.
    Right now I'm trying to help a dear friend. Her husband, a volunteer firefighter ,who was a huge gun collector ,avid marksman and hunter, died last Tuesday at age 42, leaving a grieving, distraught wife (teacher)and an elementary school age boy and girl.    He committed suicide with one of his many guns while they were all at their respective schools. Can you understand why she might be very anti gun right now? Her poor son is very confused. The funeral visitation was yesterday . I wonder how many gun fanatics would have had something really stupid to say to her.
It will all be alright some day, but right now it's terrible. In cases like this, the fire service closes ranks and becomes very protective.
Wanna make more nasty remarks to me? Go ahead... show how sleazy you really can be. A pox on all your houses. Which ever rock you live under. >:(

Quote from Diane
Can you understand why she might be very anti gun right now?

No, I don't see why she would be anti gun unless the gun that killed him sprouted legs and crawled up onto his lap and shot him, without him pulling the trigger. If he had run a hose from his car exhaust and into the window and died from carbon monoxide poisoning, would she be anti-car ?

Quote from Diane:
Bad parenting? Ask any teacher! We see it a lot

"We" ? I thought you told us you quit teaching about 40 years ago due to a chalk allergy

Quote from: jarhead on January 14, 2013, 05:38:40 PM
"We" ? I thought you told us you quit teaching about 40 years ago due to a chalk allergy

AAHHHHCHHOOOOOOO!  SNIFF SNIFF

The bastard child doesn't know when to shut up. I agree with you Jarhead, guns don't kill people, people kill people; including one's own self. I'm assuming that the firefighter that committed suicide isn't the one that had the stroke. Looking at the online condolences, I failed to see yours Diane; or did you just cook up another big pot of I'm-Better-Than-You to feed the family? I love how people address others with food or a card and tell the loved ones, "if you ever need anything just give me a call." Anyone that has ever tried to put that to use will quickly find that avenue is now closed, as was the case with my wife.

And clinging to our guns and Bibles like we shouldn't be allowed to have them?  A Delaware liberal elite narcissist with seven or more guns (by her own admission), threatening to shoot people, certainly should have her own psyche called into question.

Sincerely,

Kent

         She will never shut up. She doesn't have anything else to do, regardless of what she claims.

       Accusing others of bragging about their exploits, then turning around and doing just that. Schitzo.

       No longer deserving of a direct response, though she will say this is, and prove her lack of knowledge of language again.

                             


         
The largest gun show in the world has opened its doors in Las Vegas, revealing 12.5 miles of firearms, ammunition and related gear from every major gun manufacturer on earth.

The annual SHOT show -- short for Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor Trade -- is owned and sponsored by the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), a firearms, ammunition, hunting and shooting sports industry trade association. Each year the show generates millions of dollars in revenue that NSSF uses to fund programs that help "promote, protect and preserve" hunting and the shooting sports.

This year the show will run four days, from Jan. 15 through 18 at the Sands Expo and Convention Center. Yesterday, the show held a media day brandishing the latest and greatest at the Boulder City Rifle & Pistol Club.

Attendance to the show is restricted to shooting, hunting and outdoor trade professionals and commercial buyers and sellers of military, law enforcement and tactical products and services, however, meaning hunters, sports shooters and shooting clubs are not permitted entry.

Similarly, they do not permit any personal firearms or ammunition. Only exhibitors' firearms on display that have had their firing pins are permitted.

A bucketload of celebrities, from the A&E's Duck Dynasty family through to NASCAR driver Jason White, will also be making an appearance this year. The show will also host legendary Vietnam War sniper Chuck Mawhinney, Medal of Honor recipient Jon Cavaiani, pro shooter Doug Koenig, country music singer Mark Wills and SEAL Team 3 sniper Chris Kyle.

The 35 annual SHOT Show has more than 1,600 exhibitors; buyers, media and other industry professionals hail from all 50 states and more than 100 countries.

Law enforcement continues to be the fastest growing section of SHOT Show. When it was launched ten years ago it covered 7,000 square feet; but this year law enforcement will be represented in more than 170,000 square feet.

SHOT is the largest event held at the Sands, with this year's exhibit space exceeding 630,000 square feet.

"It's where a passion for firearms, ammunition and outdoors equipment, plus the industry's unified support for the Second Amendment, are on display," says NSSF event about the mammoth show.

The first SHOT Show was held in 1979 in St. Louis, Mo., and has grown exponentially over the years with more than 60,000 professionals attending last year.

Last year, the show brought over $67 million to the local Las Vegas economy.

Opportunities to network abound -- from formally organized parties like the opening night "State of the Industry" posh reception and dinner at the Venetian Hotel & Casino to the more improvised after hours deal-making in various hot spots and drinking holes readily available in Sin City.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/01/15/12-miles-guns-shot-show-kicks-off-in-las-vegas/#ixzz2I7rbzO35

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Civil War's A-Brewin'

By Matt Barber
1/14/2013


A pretty, young, auburn-haired woman – mid-20s – drove down a lonely country road somewhere in Oklahoma. Appearing in her rearview mirror, at the back windshield, were two menacing orbs of light floating amid ashen dusk. The guttural roar of a souped-up big block shook the tiny Volkswagen Rabbit as a van-load of inbred thugs lurched left and drew alongside her. A ponytailed passenger taunted inaudibly and blew foul kisses between crude hand gestures. He pointed for her to pull over as the van repeatedly swerved dangerously close.

Inside the car a man, asleep in the reclining passenger seat, was startled awake by the commotion. He rose and darted his head about, calmly assessing the situation. This only spurred the evil-bent goons. As they ramped-up efforts to run the car off the road, the man reached in the glove box, withdrew a military-grade, semi-automatic handgun – an "assault weapon," if you will – and, with intentionality and great theatre, leaned across his young bride, pointing the gun out the open bay and directly between dirt bag's booze-flushed eyes.

Van vanished amid a plume of gray smoke as wheels locked, tires screeched and "assault vehicle" fishtailed – jerking to a halt with taillights aglow skyward from the ditch.

Not a shot was fired.

Back at the couple's rural farmhouse, two boys – boys who would not be orphaned that night – played. We most likely played – my brother Pete and I – with assault rifles fashioned from sticks. I always love to hear Dad retell the story. He does it with an ornery, satisfied grin. "No one's taking my guns," he'll say.

This might be a good time for me to add that no one's taking my guns either. Period. And if Dianne Feinstein orders me from her lofty perch on the left-coast to retroactively register them with some federal autocracy, I think I might just forget I even have them. Tens of millions of law-abiding, God-fearing Americans just like me and Dad, I suspect, feel the same way.

I love guns. Grew up with 'em. As a former police officer with 12 years in the U.S. military, I know how to use them, too – use them well. I plan to buy more – a bunch more. In fact, who's to say I don't already have a veritable arsenal?

Point is, tain't Big Brother Barack's nor any other candy-keistered-liberal-cream-puff's bloody business whether I do or not.

See, the left's totalitarian brand of "gun control" has nothing to do with controlling guns – or bad guys. Rather, it has everything to do with controlling – disarming – the law-abiding masses. It's not about protecting the innocents. It's about rendering the innocents defenseless.

Clichés become clichés for a reason, and the old cliché, "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns," rings as true today as it did whenever it was that some homespun fellow coined it.

I was disgusted – physically sickened, in fact – when Barack Obama, president of these Divided States of America, shamelessly exploited the Sandy Hook memorial service to lay the groundwork for his unconstitutional gun-confiscation scheme. It was slimy to the extreme.

I guess I shouldn't have been surprised. That's what liberals do. Every time some evil nutjob – pumped full of psychotropic drugs by NEA members who don't want to deal with them – shoots-up the place, the left's collective mouth begins to water.

"Now, finally, now!" they say, rubbing together soft hands that have never felt the surprising weight of a Sig Sauer 45. "This time we have the political momentum for sweeping gun control. This time the American people will roll over and let us trample the Second Amendment beneath jackbooted executive order or congressional fiat."

"Let no good crisis go to waste," right, Rahm?

Well, not so fast, cupcake. As the U.S. Constitution guarantees – and as the Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed – "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

It ain't, "should not be infringed," or "shall finally be infringed once 'progressives' have assumed total dominance."

No, "shall not" means shall not.

There's only one way to take my guns, slick, and that's through a constitutional amendment – an amendment that will never happen – ever. Try it any other way and we have a problem.

And this whole "assault weapons ban" angle? Sensationalist propaganda. I prefer to call them "defense weapons." Contrary to left-wing revisionist pabulum, the Second Amendment's not about squirrel hunting.

Notice a trend here? What do Sandy Hook Elementary, Aurora Colorado's Century 16 theatre and Columbine have in common? They're all "gun free zones."

Places you don't see mass murder and mayhem? Well, there's a reason bad guys largely avoid shooting-up gun shows, ranges, households with signs that say: "This home insured by Smith & Wesson" and Texas in general. It's because they know – even while thick-skulled liberals don't – that, as recently noted by the NRA's Wayne LaPierre, "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

Oh, that rather than "gun free zone," Sandy Hook had a sign reading: "Staff heavily armed and trained. Any attempts to harm those herein will be met with deadly force." Might some of those beautiful babies have still died if the P.E. coach and four MP5-bearing teachers had ended the bloodshed soon after it began? Perhaps. But how many precious lives could have been saved?

No, you won't disarm me. You're not going to neuter my household and tear away my ability to defend my wife and precious babies like Dad did all those years ago.

I really, really hope this president and his authoritarian cohorts in Congress will slow down, take a deep breath and realize that, right now, they're playing a very dangerous game of chicken. If they try what I think they might, but hope they don't, I fear this nation – already on the precipice of widespread civil unrest and economic disaster – might finally spiral into to utter chaos, into a second civil war.

But then again, that may be exactly what they have in mind.

Wow. What heartless people. No, I don't sign on line condolence books if I'm there in person.I sign the guest book at the funeral home. I only sign online books if the person is far away. Now I'm criticized for that too?  Yikes!
Your nasty comments about the suicide are really nuts! I won't even respond to that it's so terrible.
  As far as the chalk allergy, it's still there. If I were to spend three days in a row in a room that still uses chalk,I start with the breathing tightness. Most places use dry markers and electronics now, so it's rarely a problem.
Yes, I had to give up regular every day classroom teaching years ago, but that didn't mean I gave up teaching or gave up being in and out of schools often. My statements still stand! I wish things had changed, but as you also know, it hasn't. Some people just are bad parents, period.
I'm told the fire house gun show was a success over the weekend, but it was so warm the Ladies Auxiliary's vegetable soup sale didn't go very well.
As I have said before, but for some reason it isn't believed, I'm not anti gun. I'm anti guns in the wrong hands for the wrong reasons.I can protect myself with what I already own...Why do I need 50? 
True collectors, who should be registered, should have no problem. The collectors I know are very responsible folks who care about gun safety, but there needs to be some way to make things better for those people who are afraid.They are feeling very helpless and feel they shouldn't be forced into the ways of the gun to be safe. Now you few hate mongers can go find someone else to pick at. As you see I'm a brave person and are not affected by your primitive carrying on. It took a while for me to learn that civilized manners are not a requirement here ...but learn I did.  Now I have things to do,including helping some friends.

Quote from Jarhead:
No, I don't see why she would be anti gun unless the gun that killed him sprouted legs and crawled up onto his lap and shot him, without him pulling the trigger. If he had run a hose from his car exhaust and into the window and died from carbon monoxide poisoning, would she be anti-car ?

Diane ,
I presume you are referring to my above quote and saying it is so nasty that you won't respond to it. Where, pray tell, is it nasty ? I thought you wanted honest debate ?
Why does one need 50 guns ? I seriously doubt that you hunt so why do you need the 7 guns you say you have ? Who draws the line as to how many is too many ? You--Obama ??? If what you say is true, then it looks like you are one of the fear mongers afraid Obama is trying to dis-arm us. Less than a year ago you said you owned "a" shotgun. Then apparently, a couple months back, you must have added a pistol to your arsenal because you threatened to shoot Ross with a pistol. Now you own 7 weapons !!! Why the big gun buying spree in less than a year ?

I never said I only owned a shot gun. The seven we own we have had for many years one. Several were in the family. Why the inquisition?  A couple are for investment. Al and I used to both target shoot.Not so much any more. The Post Polio had done damage to his right arm. I'm still pretty good with my .38, but anybody can do well with that.
There is no "debate" when it comes to a friend's death. I never said she was anti gun...I said you would understand if she was right now. But I was wrong ,you don't seem to understand anything. She is really hurting and the timing what with recent events, was just terrible. He was teaching his son about weapons and I wish he HAD chosen some other way.He may have created a gun hater.  too soon to know. His uncle may someday be able to help him understand.
Where in the world did you get the idea I had threatened R? How could I? I'm too far away.
In fact, I was the one recently threatened.  Not that any of you peeps scare me. Why do you fabricate these out of thin air? Pretzel talk!
Why do you think I care how many guns collectors own? I do worry about the creeps who have piles of weapons for no reason that make any sense.
Keep in mind, I've been to  situations over the years where fires have happened in homes, sheds and garages with cases and cases of ammo and we haven't been told about it... don't know until it starts cooking off. Fortunately most people are very up front and warn fire board to what is stored where and what the hazard might be.
One poor resident, long gone now, was a Viet Nam vet who would have flash backs. He had a counselor who would come, but he called fire board first. We had to stage behind The Taco Bell nearby with all lights off.  We never knew if his threats were genuine or just mouth. Fortunately he was never shot and eventually was placed in a secure facility for treatment. The people who lived in the apartment complexes near by were afraid of him. Can you understand?
You can't make me into someone I'm not just by twisting my words and not everything is a debate. Sorry if I don't fit your mold. I'll say no more about it, so insult me all you want...let people see how you are now.You didn't used to be so slippery.

Quote from Diane:
Where in the world did you get the idea I had threatened R? How could I? I'm too far away

Quote from Diane:
Red, ooooh, you are SO scary. I might have ta' get out my 38 and clean it.

You're right. It wasn't Ross you threatened--it was Red. My mistake.

Quote from Diane:
There is no "debate" when it comes to a friend's death. I never said she was anti gun

Quote from Diane
Can you understand why she might be very anti gun right now?

Maybe your above quote is why I thought your friend might be anti-gun.
Would you kindly point out where I insulted you. Did I call you a peep---a creep---a big dummy---a corn pone---a smart elec and etc ? And you call me a "pretzel "?
What I do understand is you do not want honest debate. Several have tried that tactic but all you want is to shove your liberal views down our gullets, but any opposing view be damned.

Diane and Jarhead, it looks like you two are having a lovers quarrel. I s there something more we should know about you two.

Quote from: Oldtimer on January 16, 2013, 01:44:44 PM
Diane and Jarhead, it looks like you two are having a lovers quarrel. I s there something more we should know about you two.

Come on now, big Ron doesn't deserve anything that bad.

Thanks Frank...Not.

MY DAD IS NOT DESPERATE ....MY MOM IS BEAUTIFUL....IF MY DAD EVER PICKED UP DIANE.....I WOULD SHOOT MYSELF!!!!!! :o  OMG THAT IS JUST SICK SHAME ON ANYONE FOR SAYING THAT....GAG ME

Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 16, 2013, 05:01:48 PM
Thanks Frank...Not.

Don't thank me Diane, you earned it.

Laugh My Ass Off Frank! Next time I see Ronnie, he'll probably be wearing a bicycle helmet, slapping one hand against his chest, going duh, duh, duh, just so Diane will think he's a liberal and she'll fall in love! :o :laugh: ;D :angel: ;) ::) poke, poke, smack, smack, kiss, kiss, spank, spank!---Robert

I used to have superpowers... But a therapist took them away.

When NRA suggested putting armed security in every school across America, mainstream media sharply criticized Wayne LaPierre — calling him everything from "laughable" and "tone deaf" to "whacked," "evil" and "out of step with America."  

             

Unfortunately for the wacky media, America disagrees.  Most citizens support armed security in schools.... and the NRA, as evidenced by its 250,000 new members over the past month.  So the media can go speaking for elites, but America will speak for itself.[/font][/size]

               

"The problem with stealing quotes off the internet is you never know if they are genuine."
- Abraham Lincoln

Warph, can you verify that this is an actual quote of Abraham Lincoln's? (Tongue in cheek, of course).

Quote from: Warph on January 16, 2013, 10:31:23 PM
"The problem with stealing quotes off the internet is you never know if they are genuine."
- Abraham Lincoln

Quote from: Wilma on January 17, 2013, 08:19:08 AM
Warph, can you verify that this is an actual quote of Abraham Lincoln's? (Tongue in cheek, of course).

It is, Wilma, Al Gore said so.  And if anybody knows the internet, it's Gore.... he invented it! LOL

You, of all people should know better.
I was never impressed with him, but he never said he "invented the internet." That was twisted from what he did say, for political reasons. As I have said before, he did have a lot to do with "the information super highway" leaving academia and the military and becoming available for all. Look it up for yourself.
That's another problem with misquotes or misuse. It can never never be corrected, no matter how anyone tries. It lives forever. :(

Al Jazeera Gore's quote was : "During my service in the United States Congress , I took the initiative in CREATING the internet"
He can back pedal all he wants and his liberal buddies like Snopes can try to cover his ass but the truth is in the pudding.

Did you look it up? Try wiki or another source too.   Read more than one sentence.

I gave you the quote that Al Jazeera Gore said. I love it when a POS like Gore, Obama or Biden stick their foot in their mouth and Blitzer, Jay Carney or any other liberal minded person jumps in to explain "what they meant was " I guess I could say, what Gore was meaning was that the water in the sea tastes salty. Would you buy that  ?

Seeing as you seem to have a little spare time in your busy life, have you thought of an answer as to why you thought my below quote was "nasty and really nuts---and terrible ?

Quote from Jarhead:
No, I don't see why she would be anti gun unless the gun that killed him sprouted legs and crawled up onto his lap and shot him, without him pulling the trigger. If he had run a hose from his car exhaust and into the window and died from carbon monoxide poisoning, would she be anti-car ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology#Vice_President_and_Information_Superhighway

Vice President and Information Superhighway

As Vice President, Gore promoted the development of what he referred to as the Information Superhighway. This was discussed in detail a few days after winning the election in November 1992 in The New York Times article "Clinton to Promote High Technology, With Gore in Charge."[16] They planned to finance research "that will flood the economy with innovative goods and services, lifting the general level of prosperity and strengthening American industry."[16] Specifically, they were aiming to fund the development of "robotics, smart roads, biotechnology, machine tools, magnetic-levitation trains, fiber-optic communications, and national computer networks. Also earmarked are a raft of basic technologies like digital imaging and data storage."[16] These initiatives were met with some skepticism from critics who claimed that "the initiative is likely to backfire, bloating Congressional pork, and creating whole new categories of Federal waste."[16] These initiatives were outlined in the report Technology for America's Economic Growth.[17] In September 1993, they released a report calling for the creation of a "nationwide information superhighway," which would primarily be built by private industry.[18] Gary Stix commented on these initiatives a few months prior in his May 1993 article for Scientific American, "Gigabit Gestalt: Clinton and Gore embrace an activist technology policy." Stix described them as a "distinct statement about where the new administration stands on the matter of technology [...] Gone is the ambivalence or outright hostility toward government involvement in little beyond basic science. Although Gore is most famous for his political career and environmental work, he is also noted for his creation of the internet." A little known fact that Al had a second helper from a woman in Delaware by the name of Diane Amberg Silverman, who pre-dates Al Gore in her own creation of the world wide web; and is more notably known as the inventor of the first computer. An expert marksman, firefighter, teacher, and a legend in her own mind and who was let go from her internship, (where she made history being the oldest-ever intern), due to controversies over a stained blue dress, in 1994.

This is exactly why I don't believe Wikipedia! Anybody could put a lie on there, but some people use it as a weapon and as the supreme truth. Usually liberals.-----Robert

I once prayed to God for a car, but quickly found out he didn't work that way...
so I stole a car and prayed for his forgiveness.

---Henry Ford

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Do liberals even read the news? Listen to this dumbshit:

What a hoot to watch that Lib getting his arse handed to him. He acted like Obama when his teleprompter quit. Notice how he wanted to change the subject---just like Obama did during the Prez debates when he didn't have an answer---"can we move on "

Ron, here is the full interview.  Pick it up at 7:32 to see the rest of it.  It gets better.

"Uh--Uh--I don't think anyone should have guns---let me be clear---I'm not for a gun ban---just an assault gun ban " That moron has the makings of a politician.

I really liked it when his guest said he was packing heat. Either his liberal ass was sucking buttermilk or he became vapor locked .

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               "President Barack Obama says the federal government is trying to destroy the Second Amendment."


Obama Paranoid Government Coming For His Guns

by Albert Gore
Al Jazeera English News

WASHINGTON—Reflecting attitudes held throughout his personal and political life, President Barack Obama restated Thursday his long-standing fear that the U.S. government is even now putting measures in place to take his guns away.

Obama, an avid gun enthusiast with an extensive history of mistrusting the federal government, claimed Washington's actions in recent years have been particularly egregious and described its "rabid anti-gun zealotry" as "some real sinister, Nazi-type sh!t."

"The thing for damn sure is you can't trust 'em," Obama told reporters Thursday morning, cradling a .22-caliber bolt-action hunting rifle in his arms. "No matter how hard you work or how many taxes you pay, the gol-darn government's sure as sh!t gonna pass some law or officiate some warrant to try and take your guns. Because when the people don't have any guns, that's when they take control."

"Just like in England," the president added. "They took away all the guns there, and now they have video cameras all over the place to spy on everybody. You think America wouldn't do that if they could?"

According to President Obama, the U.S. government has for years made a concerted effort to "destroy the Second Amendment of the damned Constitution, for God's sake," while silencing the voices of gun owners such as himself who merely wish to retain the ability to protect their home and family.

"It's a slippery slope, I'm telling you—it starts with an assault weapons ban, which is a total crock, and then they use that to get their foot in the door to take away shotguns and rifles, too," said the president, adding that he keeps an assortment of handguns locked in a safe in the White House basement in case of "emergencies." "We're talking about an all-out war on our right to keep and bear arms: global gun databases, secret watch lists, bullet serialization, microstamping. It is my constitutional right to own these firearms, okay? And they can't wrench that right away from me."

"What if somebody breaks into the White House tonight?" Obama continued. "Hell, I got a prerogative to protect my wife and kids."

Seemingly obsessed with security, Obama has reportedly used the heavily fortified Oval Office as a 'lair' for most of his first term, eating and sleeping within its gun-racked walls and exiting only for necessary state business. In such cases, Obama told reporters, he will not leave without an array of concealed weapons on his person.

Beltway sources said a rifle-armed figure resembling Obama has also been seen patrolling the White House roof in recent years, wearing what appears to be forest-camouflage cargo pants, mirrored aviator sunglasses, and a sleeveless black "POW/MIA" T-shirt.

"When the sh!t goes down, man, the militia is all you can rely on," said Obama, who sources confirmed has formed a loose affiliation of local gun owners that meets on weekends to conduct what they call "training exercises" in the Rose Garden. "And believe me, the sh!t will go down. There is a war coming. And it's coming quick. And you just better hope that when it does go down you're not caught on the wrong side of that line, brother, because I will not hesitate to defend what I hold dear."

At press time, a user named "potus_44" posted a message on an NRA message board that read: "rite to own guns only thing btwn tyrany and freedom. atf w/ fbi trying 2 control us, just like Brits in Rev War. fate of nation hangs in balance."

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Here Is The List Of 23 Executive Orders Obama Just Signed On Guns, Plus List Of Measures He's Leaving To Congress

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.


And these are the legislative ideas — i.e., the ones the president wants to push through Congress, starting with the more pliable Senate:

***Require criminal background checks for all gun sales. (a.k.a. closing the "gun show loophole.")

***Reinstate and strengthen the assault weapons ban.

***Restore the 10-round limit on ammunition magazines.

***Protect police by finishing the job of getting rid of armor-piercing bullets.

***Give law enforcement additional tools to prevent and prosecute gun crime.

***End the freeze on gun violence research.

***Make our schools safer with more school resource officers and school counselors, safer climates, and better emergency response plans.

***Help ensure that young people get the mental health treatment they need.

***Ensure health insurance plans cover mental health benefits.

D.C. man who shot dogs biting boy could face charges
City wants to know if gun he used was legal

By Andrea Noble January 23, 2013
The Washington Times

"D.C. police are investigating whether a man will face criminal charges for shooting a pit bull that was attacking a child in his neighborhood.

The incident unfolded Sunday afternoon, after three pit bulls attacked an 11-year-old boy as he rode his bicycle through the Brightwood neighborhood of Northwest, according to a police report.

When the man, a neighbor, saw the boy being mauled by the dogs, he went inside his home and got a gun. The man killed one of the dogs. The gunfire attracted the attention of a police officer in the area near Eighth and Sheridan streets, where the attack occurred. The officer responded and shot the other two pit bulls as they continued to attack the boy.

Another excerpt _______________
"While public opinion might be supportive of the man's actions, he could still face significant charges depending on the outcome of the investigation, criminal defense attorney Daniel Gross said.

READ THE REST:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/23/man-who-shot-dogs-biting-boy-could-face-charges/

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List of Guns Banned Under Feinstein's Legislation

By Katie Pavlich
1/24/2013
List of Firearms Prohibited by Name


Rifles: All AK types, including the following:

AK, AK47, AK47S, AK-74, AKM, AKS, ARM,
MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR-47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK-
47, VEPR, WASR-10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco
56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS;

All AR types, including the following:

AR-10, AR-15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15-T, Barrett REC7,
Beretta AR-70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster
XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch
MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R-15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR-15, Sig Sauer SIG516
rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles;
Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1; Beretta CX4 Storm; Calico Liberty Series; CETME Sporter;
Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL,
LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000; Feather Industries AT-9;
Galil Model AR and Model ARM; Hi-Point Carbine; HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1 and
HK USC; Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU-16, and RFB; SIG AMT, SIG PE-57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and
Sig Sauer SG 551; Springfield Armory SAR-48; Steyr AUG; Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical
Rife M-14/20CF;


All Thompson rifles, including the following:

Thompson M1SB, Thompson
T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D,
Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1-C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5,
Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C; UMAREX UZI Rifle; UZI Mini
Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine; Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78;
Vector Arms UZI Type; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.


Pistols: All AK-47 types, including the following:

Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK-47 pistol,
HCR AK-47 pistol, IO Inc. Hellpup AK-47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK-47 pistol,
Yugo Krebs Krink pistol;

All AR-15 types, including the following:

American Spirit AR-15pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR-15 pistol,
Olympic Arms AR-15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol; Calico Liberty pistols; DSA
SA58 PKP FAL pistol; Encom MP-9 and MP-45; Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol; Intratec
AB-10, TEC-22 Scorpion, TEC-9, and TEC-DC9; Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol;

The following MAC types: MAC-10, MAC-11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA
Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11, Velocity
Arms VMAC; Sig Sauer P556 pistol; Sites Spectre;


All Thompson types, including the following:

Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5; All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.


Shotguns:

Franchi LAW-12 and SPAS 12; All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the
following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP-01,
IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K-030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K-040 Taktika;
Streetsweeper; Striker 12.


Belt-fed semiautomatic firearms:

All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms including TNW M2HB.

Here lies the empty head of the professional liberal.  The present isn't a year or an age, it's a moment.  A passing fleeting thing.

1791 is an eternity away.  A period of time that is so vast that he can hardly conceive of it, not because of the chronological distance, but the cultural distance.

How far away is 1791?  To actor Matthew Modine, its an infinite distance measured by every liberal social gimmick that he is wedded to.  The modern liberal is not an American, he is a citizen of Liberalvania, a fanciful magical kingdom where money is infinite and everyone gets gay married and then breaks into showtunes.  It's not a real place, it's a state of mind.

Who's Up for Another Celebrity Lecture About Gun Control?

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/whos-up-for-another-celebrity-lecture-about-gun-control/

Dana Loesch, Editor-in-Chief of Big Journalism (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government), was on with loopy Piers Morgan tonight again to discuss gun rights in America.  Dana pulled out an AR15 lighter on the show and began to school Piers on automatic weapons.  Piers didn't like it much.  He told her, "Dana, stop talking for a moment." For some reason Piers always looks pained when Dana is on to talk guns.

Kick a**, Dana

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Oh no---here come the war on those assault bows !!!


New Jersey man allegedly shot another with hunting bow after fistfight
Published January 30, 2013

FoxNews.com

A New Jersey man reportedly faces murder charges after he allegedly shot another man with a hunting bow in an apparent dispute over a woman.

Camden County authorities told the Philadelphia Daily News that the arrow pierced Kereti Paulsen's stomach and perforated the iliac vein in his pelvis late Monday. The 25-year-old man was pronounced dead at Virtua Hospital in Berlin shortly after.

"He wasn't always the best person in the world, and he did a lot of stupid stuff, but he wasn't malicious in any way, and me and my daughter loved him," said Lauren Palmer, the mother of Paulsen's 5-year-old daughter, Aurora.

Authorities said Paulsen, of Cape May Court House, scuffled with another man outside a residence at Brill Avenue and Egg Harbor Road. Palmer said Paulsen had a rocky, on-and-off relationship with a woman who lived at the house.

Everyone except Paulsen went inside following the fistfight and a resident who was not involved, Timothy Canfield, allegedly emerged from the house with a compound bow and several arrows. Authorities said Canfield, 25, shot Paulsen once, striking his target.

Prosecutors said Canfield later tried to hide the bow — commonly used for deer-hunting — in a wooded area of Winslow Township

Damn Jarhead, I'll bet you're right! Did anybody find out whether it may have been a long bow, compound bow, assault bow? Did it have a scope, laser sights? Was it camo? Was it military style black? The question I put out there to the liberal blabbermouth in Delaware, that went unanswered, was WHAT IS AN ASSAULT WEAPON? One that is used to ASSAULT someone? How about we re-word it. MILITARY GRADE WEAPON. Let's think about this. When they wrote the constitution of the United States, they had muskets; the same weapons were being used by military and civilians alike. Let's go forward in time. Didn't the US Military use Henry repeating rifles, Winchester lever actions, etc? The same guns that were used by cowboys and Indians? The only part that I can agree with on what a military personnel has that a civilian cannot have would be fighter jets, tanks, grenade launchers, bazookas, hand grenades, C-4 and my personal favorite, a nuclear warhead and a machine gun. But the US Government took Acts in 1934 to keep civilians from owning machine guns without a class 3 FFL license and other regulations to assure that those do not fall into wrong hands. It amazes me that the liberals keep calling assault rifles and semi-auto rifles military STYLE weaponry. The same liberals that are putting out a ban on all assault rifles, doing it for the children or to protect the lives of these innocent children, are the same ones that like to jam a pair of scissors into the skulls of an unborn child to murder it. Are these ASSAULT SCISSORS to sever the brain stem, because they've damned sure killed more innocent babies with scissors than any kids have been killed with an assault rifle. But the stupid, blabbermouth liberals don't want anyone to think about the more than 50 million babies murdered in the last 40 years!---Robert L. Walker

 AGAIN, I'm an independent,not a liberal.If I was a liberal, I'd be registered as a Democrat and could vote in their primaries. You lie again and that's how I get misquoted, not that you care a hoot about truth and accuracy.GRRRR
I did anwer your question and gave as short an answer as I could,as I was asked to do. I would never have come back on here, but I don't have to put up with your nonsense either.That was uncalled for and is continuing the problem.   Fine . I have since talked to a bunch of people who know, and they all agreed,'' well it depends." If I must, l will list all the things that generally make an assault weapon, or you can read WARPH's lists and what others have already written. By the way, class 3 weapons have been banned here for quite some time.
Since some of you swear you read our paper, yeh,right, you'll have seen all the letters to the editor recently of the pro and con sort, and all the concerns from average people, who aren't extremists.
You are still talking mixed fruit in some cases. An arrow and the damage one person can do when he's mad at one person,can't compare with what one nut case can do with a weapon that can fire lots and fast and is out to do as much damage as possible and harm as many people as possible. I feel the same about the hammers and knives business.  Sure, they can kill and maim... I've treated many of them over the years. Not one instance required more than one ambulance.
 Now for a really odd one.We have a friend whose mother was a bar maid. A lady visiting the bar had a loaded gun in her purse. She dropped it, the gun went off, fired through her purse and kiled Bob's mother. Talk about a freak accident!
Somebody mentioned cars...not a good comparison IMHO. Cars are indeed registered, as are legal drivers.They take a huge toll on a year wide basis, but very few are homicides directed at " to whom it may concern." A few each year are even suicides.
 The abortion issue should be a whole separate topic. Once again, I am not and never have been a pro abortion advocate, except in extreme cases ,especially if the fetus will not survive, and is beyond today's medical skills to help. Abortion for convience is wrong. So is premarital sex, but we know that is ignored.
You expect people to know and acknowledge how you feel about certain touchy subjects..  I feel the same way. Stop putting words in my mouth. Sorry, I wasn't in the obituary again today. :'(

I recieveed this in an e-mail this morning.

Alternative to Hand Gun under the Bed.
 
AND KEEP A SECOND CAN IN YOUR CAR!


I know some of you own GUNS but this is something to think about...

If you don't have a gun, and even if you do, here's a more humane way to wreck someone's evil plans for you.  Did you know this?  I didn't.  I never really thought of it before.  I guess I can get rid of the baseball bat.

Wasp Spray -- A friend who is a receptionist in a church in a high risk area was concerned about someone coming into the office on Monday to rob them when they were counting the collection.  She asked the local police department about using pepper spray and they recommended to her that she get a can of wasp spray instead.

The wasp spray, they told her, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot more accurate, while with the pepper spray, they have to get too close to you and could overpower you. The wasp spray temporarily blinds an attacker until they get to the hospital for an antidote. She keeps a can on her desk in the office and it doesn't attract attention from people like a can of pepper spray would.  She also keeps one nearby at home for home protection. Thought this was interesting and might be of use.

On the heels of a break in and beating that left an elderly woman in Toledo dead, self defense experts have a tip that could save your life.

Val Glinka teaches self-defense to students at Sylvania Southview High School.  For decades, he's suggested putting a can of wasp and hornet spray near your door or bed.

Glinka says, "This is better than anything I can teach them."

Glinka considers it inexpensive, easy to find, and more effective than mace or pepper spray. The cans typically shoot 20 feet; so if someone tries to break into your home, Glinka says "spray the culprit in the eyes". It's a tip he's given to students for decades.

It's also one he wants everyone to hear If you're looking for protection, Glinka says look to the spray. "That's going to give you a chance to call the police; maybe get out."  Maybe even save a life.

Ross that was very interesting information. I will have to keep that in mind. Thanks for the info.

Quote from: rosewolf on February 01, 2013, 01:04:36 PM
Ross that was very interesting information. I will have to keep that in mind. Thanks for the info.

You are quite welcome.
I didn't know the stuff would kill mice and snakes, that right therecould come in handy.
If the occassion arises I'll be trying it.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on February 01, 2013, 10:25:06 AM
AGAIN, I'm an independent,not a liberal.If I was a liberal, I'd be regersted as a Democrat and could vote in their primaries.

ROTFLMAO

Lindsay Graham, John Boehner, John McCain and others are a testament to the fact the 'R' or 'D' doesn't matter.  Nor does one have to be a card carrying member of the Communist Party USA to share communist values.  It's about attitude & actions, not party affiliation.  What's on your voter registration card matters little.  Catch a clue, liberal statist.

Let me be the first to suggest a common sense gun regulation that will include and accommodate all Americans. Every able bodied individual in America should be required to own a gun.

In the recent American political tradition of justifying something because that is how a European country does it, I suggest we follow the Swiss. Not only do they love their watches and chocolate, they also love their guns. They love guns so much their government picks up the tab to ensure that people own them and form militias. That's right, government funded civilian militias are the foundation of the most peaceful of European countries.

Swiss people are given Sig's, mostly Sig SG 550's. Now that is an assault rifle. A real assault rifle – the fully automatic kind – not the one-shot-per-pull of the trigger semi-automatic rifles Americans own.

Officers have the Sig Sauer P-220 in .45 ACP in their homes. That ACP stands for Automatic Colt Pistol. Our American military is reduced to having the 9mm Parabellum. In an ironic twist of fate the non-warring Swiss opted for a powerful American handgun cartridge for their government sponsored civilian militia and we war loving Americans opted for a much weaker European handgun cartridge for our government sponsored military. Swiss civilians are issued stronger handguns than the American military. Mull that over for a while.

The Swiss Embrace Their Civilian Militia

The Federal Constitution of the Swiss Confederation article 58 states: Switzerland shall have armed forces. In principle, the armed forces shall be organized as a militia.

All Swiss men get military training except for those who have opted for an alternative civilian service. If you do neither military nor civilian service you get taxed. After getting your Swiss Army training you go home and become part of the militia for the next 10 years or so, and your gun goes with you.

I think we all know by now that crime in the United States and gun control laws have a direct correlation. Chicago, Detroit and Washington, D.C. are all gun control cities where you are more likely to get killed than in either of our theaters of war.

Kennesaw, Georgia requires gun ownership. In 2007, the city was selected by Family Circle magazine as one of the nation's "10 best towns for families."

In 1982 the Municipal Code of Kennesaw, Georgia was changed to state:
(a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.

(b) Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.

Guess what happened after the ordinance was passed. Crime dropped. Much to the displeasement of anti-gun groups that promised the people would suddenly become drunk with blood lust and shoot each other. It never happened. Peace broke out and civility was waged among the people.

The Common Sense Solution – Amend the Constitution

The last time America amended the Constitution was in 1992. Who knew eh? Here is the gutsy and bold addition to our most precious of founding documents:

No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

I think it has something to do with Congress giving Congress a raise. It took 202 years to get it passed. Amazing.

Our 28th Amendment shall be:
In order to provide for the security of the individual, state and general wellbeing of the country, all able bodied individuals shall be required to own one modern firearm and a minimum of ten rounds of associated ammunition.

Individuals are required to receive training in marksmanship and operation of firearms. Military and law enforcement personnel shall be exempt from training if they have satisfactorily completed firearms training while in their course of their service.

Exceptions shall be made for those adjudicated mentally ill, convicted of a crime of domestic violence, a felony, or have been separated from the military with a Dishonorable Discharge.

Individuals that are fundamentally opposed to owning a firearm shall be taxed and each year shall register with the government as firearms objectors until age 62 or until proven by a medical doctor to be unable to operate a firearm.

If an individual is unable to purchase a firearm one shall be provided by the Federal Government.

Next Steps
We need to get this up as a petition to the White House. Then we will need 100,000 signatures. From there we enthusiastically encourage our Congresspersons, Senators and Governors to move this legislation forward.

I'd be honored to have it referred to as the Piccione Gun Safety Amendment but my name is hard to pronounce.

Let's just call it Project Amendment 28 and make this the 28th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

It makes common sense to adopt this reasonable approach to securing our country and accommodate those that choose not to do their fair share. Common sense and fair share – principles we can all embrace.

Update 6:32 PM EST.

If you agree join us on Facebook – click here https://www.facebook.com/ProjectAmendment28AmendTheConstitution - I'm known to give guns away...

Update 12:54 PM – Jan 18, 2013

Someone has started the petition. Only 99,997 signatures to go

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/project-amendment-28-require-firearms-ownership/swf6msdd


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/17/project-amendment-28-amend-the-constitution-for-common-sense-gun-ownership/#ixzz2JqirUxEq

KENNESAW, GEORGIA REQUIRES GUN OWNERSHIP, AND IS ONE OF THE SAFEST FAMILY TOWNS IN AMERICA


Jan. 31, 2013

(NaturalNews) It has been featured as one of the top 10 best towns in America for families by Family Circle magazine, and it has one of the lowest crime rates in the entire Atlanta metropolitan area. But one little-known fact about Kennesaw, Georgia, population 30,000, is that heads of household living in the town are required by law to own at least one firearm. And this atypical mandate has played a crucial role in making Kennesaw the safe, family-friendly town that it is today.

Originally passed by the Kennesaw City Council with a unanimous vote back in 1982, the law's stated purpose is to "protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants." And over the past 30-or-so years since the law's enactment, police and other local officials have on numerous occasions told the media that Kennesaw's gun ownership law has resulted in a drastic crime reduction throughout the area.

"When the law was passed in 1982, there was a substantial drop in crime ... and we have maintained a really low crime rate since then," explained police Lt. Craig Graydon to Reuters back in 2007 following the Virginia Tech shootings about the Kennesaw gun law. "We are sure it is one of the lowest (crime) towns in the metro area."

Kennesaw's success with mandatory gun ownership parallels that of the European nation of Switzerland, where similar laws at the national level require individuals to own guns and ammunition. And just like in Kennesaw, Switzerland's crime rate is among the lowest throughout Europe, which can be directly attributed to the country's embedded culture of responsible gun ownership.

"Social conditions are fundamental in deterring crime," explained Peter Squires, a professor of criminology and public policy at the University of Brighton in the U.K., to TIME recently about the value of promoting a culture of responsible gun ownership. "If people have a responsible, disciplined and organized introduction into an activity like shooting, there will be less risk of gun violence."

Gun ownership encourages civic responsibility, peaceful society
In other words, if owning guns and being trained to use them properly and accurately is engrained into the social structure as being normal, a "culture of support" will be fostered in which people rely on one another for protection. And according to Squires, this culture of support and the sense of civic responsibility it nurtures ultimately helps deter mass shootings rather than promote them. It also advocates a peaceful society composed of well-trained, well-protected individuals who look out for their own families and for one another.

This contrasts sharply with the current national debate on gun control, where many left-leaning politicians are claiming that increased gun restrictions will help reduce crime and promote a civil society. But what they fail to mention is that cities like Washington D.C. and Chicago, where gun restrictions are currently among the strictest in the nation, also have some of the worst crime rates in the nation. With this in mind, would you rather live in a gun-control haven like Chicago or a gun-embracing family town like Kennesaw?

Gabriel Giffords and the Newtown children , the Aurora victims could have
saved themselves if only they had known the secrets of self defense as
outlined by Homeland Security and Big Sister Janet Whatsherface given in this article:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/shear_bravery_beats_guns_feds_d9BanDpupuVezePd6trYoM

           

But now, thanks to Homeland Security  we must all turn in our guns and arm
ourselves with desk accessories and office supplies.

Do as Fatherland Security commands you!

You can imagine the US court system declaring that the scissors must be
plastic with rounded tips so you don't hurt anyone with them, especially
if you have to run or dive under a desk!

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DUCK AND CUTTER: A Homeland Security video shows these
scenes as helpful advice to workers on what to do if a mass
killer strikes their office — grab any weapon at hand, and hide
under a desk.

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In one of Robert Parker's mystery books, a tough character hired
on as a body guard for a rich man demonstrates his prowess in the
martial arts to the hero of the story, Spenser. After a lengthy and
athletic work out consisting of gyrations, kicks, punches and blows
to a long punching bag, the man asked Spenser if he could match that.

Spenser took his gun out of his shoulder holster and fired a shot through
the body bag, turned and walked out.

Today he would be arrested for violence against gym equipment.

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Man Tries To Rob Bank With Toy Gun...

                 Promptly Shot In The Face With A Real Gun...


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Dude is lucky to be alive after taking a round from a Smith & Wesson .357 to the jaw.  Ouch!


http://fox4kc.com/2013/03/04/man-charged-in-attempted-trimble-bank-robbery-chase/

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A toy gun was the weapon a 34-year-old man used last week to try to rob a bank in Trimble, Mo., according to investigators.

But the bank worker who shot him in the face didn't know that when he stepped in to try to protect a female teller crawling on the ground.

The U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Missouri announced Monday that Michael Oliva was charged in federal court in connection to the attempted bank robbery and leading law enforcement officers on a high-speed chase.

Oliva, who has not yet had a court appearance, remains hospitalized and in federal custody pending a detention hearing.

According to an affidavit filed in support of Monday's criminal complaint, Oliva entered First Security Bank, 202 U.S. Hwy. 169, Trimble, at about 1:25 p.m. Friday, March 1.

Oliva allegedly pulled on a black mask, pointed what appeared to be a handgun, but was later found to be a realistic plastic replica, at a bank employee and ordered her to give him the money in her teller drawer.

The employee instead dropped to the floor behind the teller stations and began crawling toward another bank employee, shouting for help. As she was crawling, the affidavit says, she saw Oliva lean over the teller station and point his handgun at her. She grabbed a plastic trash can and tossed it over the teller counter toward Oliva; however, Oliva had moved around the end of the teller stations and was directly behind her.

The second bank employee, who was in an office, heard the shouts for help. He saw Oliva pointing a handgun at the first bank employee, the affidavit says, and retrieved a Smith & Wesson .357 revolver. He fired two rounds at Oliva. The first shot struck Oliva in the jaw, according to the affidavit, and he turned and started toward the bank's front doors.

No money was taken during the attempted robbery.

By David Sherfinski
The Washington Times
Updated: 8:03 a.m. on Tuesday, March 5, 2013


In a protest against new gun laws, more than 100 firearms dealers say they will stop selling guns to government and law enforcement officials in New York and other states unless those same firearms are also available to average citizens.
It's part of a backlash from the industry to new gun controls, and it follows major firearms companies, such as Beretta and Magpul, that have threatened to bolt Maryland and Colorado, respectively, if those states enact legislation to restrict military-style semiautomatic weapons or high-capacity ammunition magazines.
In early February, Texas-based LaRue Tactical changed its policy to "limit all sales to what law-abiding citizens residing in their districts can purchase or possess" because it did not want to risk triggering lawsuits with new gun laws either passed or pending.
"If you write the law, you live under the law, no special category of people just because you're a government employee," said Sean Sorrentino, a gun-rights advocate who keeps a tally at ncgunblog.com of companies that are adopting those kinds of policies.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/4/gun-laws-spur-backlash/#ixzz2MgCXoa9p
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I did not check these stats.

For all you who took philosophy...


Government Analysis & it could be TREW!
Two Cities
   Chicago , IL       Houston , TX
Population    2.7 million       2.15 million
Median HH income   $38,600       $37,000
% African-American   32.9%          24%
% Hispanic   28.9%         44%
% Asian   5.5%          6%
% non-Hispanic White   31.7%         26%
      

A reasonably similar match up until you factor in a Concealed carry gun law

        Chicago, IL       Houston, TX
Concealed carry gun law    no                     yes
# of gun stores   0   
84 dedicated gun shops,
1500 places to buy guns
(Walmart, etc.)
Homicides, 2012   506        207
Homicides per 100k   18.4        9.6

Average January
high temp, F   31        63

Conclusion: cold weather causes murder.

And that's the TREWTH. Just ask any politician from Illinois!!!

What can you do but laugh at these idiots ::)

Florida bill would require anger management courses for bullet buyers


By Joshua Rhett Miller

Published March 06, 2013

FoxNews.com

Florida State Sen. Audrey Gibson wants to require bullet buyers to undergo anger management courses. (Flsenate.gov, Reuters)

A Florida legislator wants anyone trying to buy ammunition to complete an anger management program first, in what critics say is the latest example of local lawmakers reaching for constitutionally-dubious solutions to the problem of gun violence.

The bill filed Saturday by state Sen. Audrey Gibson, D-Jacksonville, would require a three-day waiting period for the sale of any firearm and the sale of ammunition to anyone who has not completed anger management courses. The proposal would require ammo buyers to take the anger management courses every 10 years.

"This is not about guns," Gibson said. "This is about ammunition and not only for the safety of the general community, but also for the safety of law enforcement."

Gibson said she's concerned with citizens stockpiling ammunition, potentially creating dangerous situations should those individuals ever come in contact with law enforcement agencies or criminals.

"It's about getting people to think, really, about how much ammunition they need," Gibson said. "It's a step, I think, in a safer direction. It's about getting people to think before they buy


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/06/florida-lawmaker-wants-anger-management-courses-for-ammunition-buyers/#ixzz2Mn58Dchf

For decades the gun-control lobby has brandished assault rifles at press conferences and spent more time describing their killing power than their manufacturers have.  The rifle has been upgraded to the assault rifle and now, in the latest Orwellian vernacular used by the White House and the entire media pyramid beneath it, weapons of war.

The gun-control activists drew the wrong lesson from Newtown as they drew the wrong lessons from WW2 and September 11.   The lesson is not that weapons are bad, the lesson is that people in the grip of evil ideas are capable of unimaginable horrors regardless of the tools at their disposal.  A single man can kill a classroom full of children with a gun and a few men can kill thousands with a few box cutters.  It isn't the tool that matters.  It's the man.

Unwishing the gun brings us back to the sword.  Unwishing the sword brings us back to the spear.  Unwishing the spear brings us back to the stone club.  And what then?  When every weapon that ever existed or will exist is undone, all that remains is the deadliest weapon of all.  The mind of man.

The gun, the sword, the spear and the club took countless lives and saved countless lives.  Civilization has always balanced on a future made possible by little boys playing cops and robbers and playing with little green army men.  They can either grow up to be the protectors of the future or the frightened men who will stand aside and do nothing when they hear the screams begin to come because they have been told that all violence is evil.

....Warph

Looks like Forbes finally caught up with what is going on with DHS buying 1.6 rounds of ammo and MaxxPro MRAP vehicles:



Excerpted from FORBES: The Denver Post, on February 15th, ran an Associated Press article entitled Homeland Security aims to buy 1.6b rounds of ammo, to far too little notice.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billion-rounds-of-ammo-for-homeland-security-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/


It confirmed that the Department of Homeland Security has issued an open purchase order for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. As elsewhere reported, much of this purchase order is for rounds forbidden by international law for use in war plus a frightening amount specialized for snipers. Also reported elsewhere, at the height of the Iraq War the Army was expending fewer than 6 million rounds a month. 1.6 billion rounds, therefore, would be enough to sustain a hot war for 20+ years. In America.

Add to this perplexingly outré purchase of ammo, DHS now is showing off its acquisition of heavily armored personnel carriers, repatriated from the Iraqi and Afghani theaters of operation. As observed by "paramilblogger" Ken Jorgustin last September:

[T]he Department of Homeland Security is apparently taking delivery (apparently through the Marine Corps Systems Command, Quantico VA, via the manufacturer – Navistar Defense LLC) of an undetermined number of the recently retrofitted 2,717 'Mine Resistant Protected' MaxxPro MRAP vehicles for service on the streets of the United States." ...

"These MRAP's ARE BEING SEEN ON U.S. STREETS all across America by verified observers with photos, videos, and descriptions.

"Regardless of the exact number of MRAP's being delivered to DHS (and evidently some to POLICE via DHS, as has been observed), why would they need such over-the-top vehicles on U.S. streets to withstand IEDs, mine blasts, and 50 caliber hits to bullet-proof glass? In a war zone... yes, definitely. Let's protect our men and women. On the streets of America... ?

"They all have gun ports... Gun Ports? In the theater of war, yes. On the streets of America...?

"Seriously, why would DHS need such a vehicle on our streets?" Why indeed? It is utterly inconceivable that Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is planning a coup d'etat against President Obama, and the Congress, to install herself as Supreme Ruler of the United States of America. There, however, are real signs that the Department bureaucrats are running amok. About 20 years ago this columnist worked, for two years, in the U.S. Department of Energy's general counsel's office in its procurement and finance division. And is wise to the ways. The answer to "why would DHS need such a vehicle?" almost certainly is this: it's a cool toy and these (reportedly) million dollar toys are being recycled, without much of a impact on the DHS budget. So... why not?

Why, indeed, should the federal government not be deploying armored personnel carriers and stockpiling enough ammo for a 20-year war in the homeland? Because it's wrong in every way. President Obama has an opportunity, now, to live up to some of his rhetoric by helping the federal government set a noble example in a matter very close to his heart (and that of his Progressive base), one not inimical to the Bill of Rights: gun control. The federal government can (for a nice change) begin practicing what it preaches by controlling itself.

And ... remember the ... Sequester? The president is claiming its budget cuts will inconvenience travelers by squeezing essential services provided by the (opulently armed and stylishly uniformed) DHS. Quality ammunition is not cheap. (Of course, news reports that DHS is about to spend $50 million on new uniforms suggests a certain cavalier attitude toward government frugality.)

Spending money this way is beyond absurd well into perverse. According to the AP story a DHS spokesperson justifies this acquisition to "help the government get a low price for a big purchase." Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center: "The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises."

At 15 million rounds (which, in itself, is pretty extraordinary and sounds more like fun target-shooting-at-taxpayer-expense than a sensible training exercise) ... that's a stockpile that would last DHS over a century. To claim that it's to "get a low price" for a ridiculously wasteful amount is an argument that could only fool a career civil servant.

Left-Loon Kerry: "We would not support any treatment inconsistent with rights of Americans under [our] Constitution...."

Oh yeah....Except for the fact that this administration has run over the Constitution and the law repeatedly.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-nra-square-off-over-small-arms-treaty/2013/03/16/ae495dae-8d76-11e2-b63f-f53fb9f2fcb4_story.html

"The National Rifle Association, which is battling a raft of gun control measures on Capitol Hill, also has an international fight on its hand as it gears up to oppose a U.N. treaty designed to restrict the flow of arms to conflict zones.Negotiations open Monday in New York on the Arms Trade Treaty, which would require countries to determine whether weapons they sell would be used to commit serious human rights violations, terrorism or transnational organized crime.

"The gun lobby fears that the treaty would be used to regulate civilian weapons. Human rights activists counter that it would reduce the trafficking of weapons, including small arms such as the ubiquitous AK-47 assault rifle, to outlaw regimes and rebel groups engaged in atrocities against civilian populations.'This treaty is a common-sense alignment of the interests of governments, law-abiding citizens and individuals all over the world, who deserve the right to live free from harm,' said Michelle A. Ringuette, chief of campaigns and programs at Amnesty International USA. 'Any step toward restraining the illicit sale and transfer of weapons used to commit horrific crimes is a good move forward, and the world could use a lot more steps in the direction of ending human rights abuses.'

"The Obama administration, which has wavered on the treaty, signaled Friday that it was willing to support the accord. 'The United States is steadfast in its commitment to achieve a strong and effective Arms Trade Treaty that helps address the adverse effects of the international arms trade on global peace and stability,' Secretary of State John F. Kerry said in a statement. 'We will not support any treaty that would be inconsistent with U.S. law and the rights of American citizens under our Constitution, including the Second Amendment.'"


Here this Clown supplies the Mexican drug cartels... he supplies the radical Muslims in Syria via Benghazi.  God only knows what he is doing we haven't discovered yet.  I actually expect to find out Iran has obtained a fully functioning W88 Trident warhead from a "nukerunning" program that went awry with a RQ-170 drone.  God help us... what a clusterf#%@!

....Warph

A Marine Corps veteran with a concealed carry permit stopped a suspect in a brutal beating in West Allis, Wis., on Tuesday morning when he drew his gun and called the police.

Charlie Blackmore, Jr. told Wisconsin Fox affiliate WITI that he saw a man kicking a woman in the head and belly at the side of the road as he was driving to work early the morning of March 12. He pulled his car over and told the suspect to stop, but the man came towards him.


That's when Blackmore, who served in the Marines from 2005 to 2007, decided to draw his weapon, a 9mm handgun. Blackmore told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that the suspect, who he estimated stood more than 6 feet tall and weighed about 220 pounds, proceeded to taunt him, reportedly saying "Shoot me, then."

According to WITI, audio of Blackmore's 911 call reveals the suspect tried to walk away when confronted.

"There's a black male that just beat up a female in the street. He's walking away from me. I told him to stop," Blackmore said on the call. "If you come at me, I will shoot you," he told the suspect.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/16/charlie-blackmore-marine-veteran-draws-gun_n_2891176.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

Two guns found in student's backpack at Orlando school

MIAMI | Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:58pm EDT

(Reuters) - A 12-year-old boy was arrested on Monday at an Orlando, Florida, middle school after a security official found two weapons, including a fully loaded MAC-10 machine pistol, in his backpack, a police official said.

Authorities examined the 7th-grader's bag after receiving a tip that a student brought a gun to the Glenridge Middle School, said Orlando Police Department spokesman Sergeant Jim Young.

Police said a preliminary investigation found the boy did not intend to harm any students. The other weapon was a handgun, Young said.

The student was arrested on a charge of possession of a firearm on school property and taken to a local juvenile detention center.

A former student of the University of Central Florida, also in Orlando, shot and killed himself early on Monday in a dormitory apartment where police found guns, bombs and writings suggesting he had been planning a campus attack, authorities said.

The dormitory was evacuated and classes were canceled on Monday morning, but resumed at midday after the explosives were removed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/18/us-usa-florida-guns-idUSBRE92H12420130318?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

OMG... a fully loaded MAC-10 machine pistol ???  12Yrs. old... ???  Authorities had better checkout the PARENTS of this kid... that is, if he got any!

Next stop... Texas?


From Magpul

Apparently Gov Hickenlooper has announced that he will sign HB 1224 on Wednesday. We were asked for our reaction, and here is what we said:
We have said all along that based on the legal problems and uncertainties in the bill, as well as general principle, we will have no choice but to leave if the Governor signs this into law. We will start our transition out of the state almost immediately, and we will prioritize moving magazine manufacturing operations first. We expect the first PMAGs to be made outside CO within 30 days of the signing, with the rest to follow in phases. We will likely become a multi-state operation as a result of this move, and not all locations have been selected. We have made some initial contacts and evaluated a list of new potential locations for additional manufacturing and the new company headquarters, and we will begin talks with various state representatives in earnest if the Governor indeed signs this legislation. Although we are agile for a company of our size, it is still a significant footprint, and we will perform this move in a manner that is best for the company and our employees.

It is disappointing to us that money and a social agenda from outside the state have apparently penetrated the American West to control our legislature and Governor, but we feel confident that Colorado residents can still take the state back through recalls, ballot initiatives, and the 2014 election to undo these wrongs against responsible Citizens.

Biden Refuses To Accept Reality, Vows To Continue
Pushing DiFi's "Assault" Weapons Ban

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          Knock yourself out, Plugs... still not gonna happen.


Vice President Biden and the Obama administration still hope to pass a federal assault weapons ban, Biden said Wednesday.

"I'm still pushing that it pass — we are still pushing that it pass. The same thing was told to me when the first assault weapons ban in '94 was attached to the Biden crime bill, that it couldn't possibly pass," Biden said Wednesday in an interview with NPR. "It was declared dead several times."

Earlier in the week Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said that a proposal to reinstitute a federal assault weapons ban would not be included in a gun control bill the Senate plans to vote on soon. Reid said the proposal, which Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) introduced, would have weighed down the rest of the gun control bill. New gun conttrol legislation, especially an assault weapons ban, faces strong opposition in the Republican-controlled House of Representatives.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/289401-biden-still-pushing-for-assault-weapons-ban-to-pass

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/police-departments-beg-and-barter-ammo-while-dhs-buys-16-billion

The nationwide shortage of ammunition has left many police departments scrambling to get their hands on the necessary rounds – with some even bartering among each other.

Meanwhile, Rep. Timothy Huelskamp (R-Kansas) says the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has failed to respond to multiple members of Congress asking why DHS bought more than 1.6 billion rounds in the past year.

Police Chief Cameron Arthur of Jenks, Oklahoma says, "Ammunition and assault weapons in general have skyrocketed...In addition to the fact, not only is it a lot more expensive, but the time to get it could be six months to a year, or in some cases even longer."

Arthur says he is waiting on an order placed last October and that many departments have begun to trade and barter with each other because of the high demand.

"Most police departments are having a very difficult time even getting the necessary ammunition for handguns, shotguns and especially rifles," Arthur said.

"With the delay in ammunition, some departments are limiting the number of rounds they carry in their handgun because of the shortage of ammunition. We get to the point where it is difficult to have enough ammo to train and also equip the officers."


Remember when Obuma made this rather shocking (and chilling) pledge:"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.  ...Barack Obama"


And then there's this story:

Public Library on Woodward Ave.
Police in Detroit last night announced the discovery of an arms cache of 200 semi-automatic rifles with 25,000 rounds of ammunition, 2 tons of heroin, 5 million in forged US banknotes, and 15 trafficked Latino prostitutes all in a semi-detached house behind the Public Library on Woodward Ave.
Local residents were stunned.
A community spokesman said: "We're all shocked; we never knew we had a library."
http://tomohalloran.com/2013/03/05/shocking-discovery-in-detroit/

yes yes yes yes and YES!~~~

Way to go Mr MacKinlay. We need more like him to weed out all the liberal hypocrites

A Tucson gun store owner has decided to rescind the sale of a military-style rifle to Mark Kelly, the husband of former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, after Kelly said he had intended the purchase to make a political point about how easy it is to obtain the kind of firearms he's lobbying Congress to ban.

Kelly's March 5 purchase of an AR-15-style rifle and a 45.-caliber handgun at Diamondback Police Supply sparked a frenzy of reaction from both sides of the debate after he posted to Facebook a photo of himself shopping.

A background check took only a matter of minutes to complete, Kelly said in the Facebook post, adding that it's scary to think people can buy similar guns without background checks at gun shows or on the Internet.

But Kelly couldn't immediately take possession of the rifle because the shop had bought it from a customer. As a result, the store is required by a Tucson ordinance to hold the gun for 20 days to give the city enough time to make sure the weapon wasn't used in a crime.

Store owner Doug MacKinlay said Monday in a Facebook post of his own that he "determined that was in my company's best interest to terminate this transaction prior to his returning to my store."

"While I support and respect Mark Kelly's 2nd Amendment rights to purchase, possess, and use firearms in a safe and responsible manner, his recent statements to the media made it clear that his intent in purchasing the Sig Sauer M400 5.56mm rifle from us was for reasons other then for his personal use," MacKinlay said in the statement.





Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/25/gun-store-rescinds-mark-kelly-rifle-purchase-questions-his-intent/#ixzz2OeaRPWz3

As POSPOTUS Barack Insane-Hussein-Obuma prepares to take his gun-control carnival on the road again, and as Demo-rat Gov. Andrew Cuomo's "radically broadened" and vague seven-bullet-limit gun control law for New York was suspended "indefinitely," a showdown is brewing.

Republican Senators Rand Paul of Kentucky, Mike Lee of Utah, and Ted Cruz of Texas are threatening to filibuster on the pending Demo-rat-controlled-Senate gun-control legislation.  These senators, new to Congress and with fearless spines of steel, are proving to be the embodiment of conservative values, fiscal responsibility, smaller government, and constitutional adherence.  Go get 'em, guys!

            White House: GOP filibuster  on guns would be 'unfortunate'



From: http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/03/white-house-gop-filibuster-on-guns-would-be-unfortunate-160231.html

White House press secretary Jay Carney suggested Tuesday that GOP Sens. Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and Rand Paul are out of step with the public on gun-control measures.

The three lawmakers have threatened to filibuster "any legislation that will serve as a vehicle for any additional gun restrictions."

Carney said he hasn't spoken with President Obama about the threat, but the White House position is clear.

"Filibusters of efforts to move forward with common-sense measures to reduce gun violence would be unfortunate," he said. "We have worked with Congress, with the Senate, to try to advance the elements of the president's plan that require legislative action and these again are common-sense measures.

From the Hill:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/290587-on-newtown-100-day-anniversary-obama-pushes-gun-control-package

President Obama will hold an event Wednesday with law enforcement officials and mothers of gun violence victims, marking the 100th day since the Newtown, Conn., mass shooting.

The president... (http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4755612066317914&pid=1.7)

...is looking to build momentum for a package of new gun control measures to be considered by the Senate early next month.

The legislation would expand background checks on firearm purchases, create new penalties on straw purchases and include new funding for school security. But the bill will not include other aspects of the plan introduced by the president in the aftermath of the shooting, which left 20 children and six educators dead, including the renewal of an assault weapons ban or limits on magazine capacity.

Despecable bastard!

Below are some gun news stories that anti-Second Amendment, defense-loathing liberals (such as actor/moron Jim Carrey, who has begrudgingly admitted he has his own armed bodyguard) would prefer to ignore. Facts, statistics, and the Second Amendment are pesky, unnecessary things to these people.

These "armed citizens vs. armed bad guys" news stories were compiled by PoliticalChic at USMessageBoard:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/current-events/285886-the-armed-citizen.html#post7010972

1. A 35-year-old woman called 911 after a man followed her home from a gas station and forced his way inside through the front door. The woman allegedly ordered the man to leave then retreated to her bedroom. The intruder picked up a knife from the kitchen table and followed her. It was reported that he threatened the woman with the knife and ordered her to take off her clothes. She warned the man that she would shoot him, but he continued to push her to undress. She retrieved a 9 mm handgun from underneath a pillow on her bed and pointed it at the intruder. When he continued toward her, she pulled the trigger. The suspect was fatally wounded. (Santa Fe New Mexican, Alcalde, NM, 11/8/12)

2. Roger Webster, owner of Webster's Store, and a female customer were standing in front of the store when two men approached and forced them back into the store. Webster and the customer were held at gunpoint and ordered to give up money from the cash register. Webster complied. When the men demanded even more money, Webster motioned as if retrieving more cash, but instead retrieved his handgun from the register and fired several rounds at the armed suspect. Both men fled. Neither Webster nor the customer were harmed. (Dorchester Banner, Cambridge, MD 11/2/12)

3. A 35-year-old woman woke around 3:30 a.m. and checked on her husband, who was up late working on his computer. The couple was startled when their home alarm sounded. The woman's husband checked the surveillance footage on his computer only to discover four masked men working to pry open a window. One of the men carried a rifle. As the woman dialed 911, her husband retrieved his own firearm. The intruders gained entry within minutes. The homeowner crouched behind a sofa and fired. The intruders returned fire before fleeing the home. No one was reportedly injured. (The Times-Picayune, New Orleans, LA, 11/16/12)

4. Douglas Downs, 48, was at home with a friend, 36-year-old Andrew Boyd, shortly after midnight when several armed men broke into his home and tried to rob him. Boyd was forced into the basement before Downs managed to retrieve a handgun from a chair in the living room. Downs fired numerous rounds until the first man dropped his weapon. He then exchanged gunfire with a second intruder. A third intruder appeared and helped his accomplices out of the home to a vehicle where a fourth man waited. Police were later notified that a man with multiple gunshot wounds had been taken to a nearby hospital. All four men were later found, arrested and charged for their involvement in the home invasion. Downs and Boyd were uninjured. (York Daily Record, York, PA, 10/24/12)

5. Cindy Schachter, an employee at Furnari Jewelers, was working when two men entered the store around 4 p.m. Schachter's boss, Anthony Furnari, was sitting at his desk facing the showroom. Something about the men made Schachter uneasy, so she gave her boss a quiet warning right before they pulled clothing over their faces and jumped over the counter. Furnari quickly pulled his .38-cal. handgun from his desk and fired several rounds at one of the suspects as he came toward him. Furnari was severely beaten as both men tried to gain control of his firearm. When Furnari fought back, the men grabbed a display of gold chains and fled. One suspect was later taken into custody after seeking treatment for several bullet wounds. It was last reported that the second suspect was still at large. Furnari suffered a broken nose, a concussion, multiple stitches to the face and hand, and a fractured rip. Schachter was reportedly unharmed. (The Republican, Chicopee, MA, 10/17/12)

6. One man was killed and another was at large Wednesday after a woman put her father's lesson in firearms to use during a burglary in southeast Oak Cliff. "I just hate that she didn't get both of them,' said Charles Brown, the homeowner. Dallas police say Brown's daughter was upstairs about 11:30 a.m. when the two men kicked down the front door of the family's home... The woman, alerted by a home alarm, fired several shots at the men, striking at least one of them as they charged up the stairs. Both men ran out of the front door, where one of them collapsed. The armed intruder was taken to Methodist Dallas Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead. (The Dallas Morning News, Dallas, TX, 10/18/12)"
The Armed Citizen Blog | by: NRA Staff

I don't want to devote much time to unfunny, aging-fading, anti-vaccine actor Carrey's tirade against gun ownership (he wants people to give up their guns and use non-lethal methods of defense, to which gun-carrying criminals all had a big ol' laugh over) — so I'll let this recent tweet of his about his new offensive song do its magic:


(https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/3400791584/2290b5912a1a493d7e5cf4c39e3eda35_normal.jpeg)    Jim Carrey        ✔ @JimCarrey  
'Cold Dead Hand' is abt u heartless motherf%ckers unwilling 2 bend 4 the safety of our kids.Sorry if you're offended... http://say.ly/jtu5rar
2:19 PM - 24 Mar 13  

Graphic capture of other tweets Chucklehead Carrey sent out about gun control:

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        :P Gun control tweets sent out by Hollywood liberal Jim Carrey :P


"Red Eye's" Greg Gutfeld has called Carrey out to debate... no response at this point from the "simpering tool,
odious twerp."
http://twitchy.com/2013/03/26/simpering-tool-odious-twerp-who-hides-when-called-out-greg-gutfeld-challenges-jim-carrey-to-debate/

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Political writer, humorist, and Red Eye host Greg Gutfeld is not amused and bitch-slapped Carrey earlier this week.... in this Fox video below, Gutfeld does it again.  Gloriously.

Gutfeld starts off by calling Carrey "the most pathetic tool on the face of the earth" and a nasty little coward who took cheap shots at Heston and his manhood, who is dead and unable to defend himself or punch Carrey's lights out.  Gutfeld is frothing that Carrey, desperate to be "relevant" in liberal Hollywood (his film career has been on the skids for years), is too much of a coward to ever make a video decrying the massive number of gun deaths caused by gang members... easier to go after a beloved dead actor and law-abiding Americans. Gutfeld's fabulous rant escalates from there.

Loved the Gutfeld line that Carrey is "as edgy as a Frisbee."



[...]

Reason TV Rebuttal: Jim Carrey's Cold Dead Hand (Video)
March, 29, 2013

Actor Jim Carrey's obnoxious  anti-gun parody video "Cold Dead Hands" which made fun of rural gun owners and the late Charlton Heston, offended gun owners all across the nation. But never fear – it has been by rebutted by Reason TV with their own clever and much funnier parody. The video takes some jabs at Carrey for his own hypocrisy on guns, and his opposition to vaccines, among other thing.

Support the Constitution and Gun Owner Rights. This is a great logo.

Hey... so what is new..

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/01/the-will-of-allah-easter-service-turns-deadly-after-man-reportedly-kills-his-father-outside-ohio-church/

ASHTABULA, Ohio (TheBlaze/AP) — Police in northeast Ohio are investigating a shooting outside a church that left one man dead after an Easter service. And the details may shock you.

A member of the Hiawatha Church of God in Christ said the man was shot soon after Easter services ended, around 1:15 p.m. Sunday. Joan Crockett said the man knew the shooter, and that a suspect was taken into custody.

Media reports — and the police — identified the victim as Richard Riddle, 52, and said his son was the shooter. [...]

""It was terrifying," Adams told the newspaper. "The children were screaming and people were dialing 911. We were afraid to breathe."

Adams said Reshad Riddle then continued into the church, still holding the gun, and yelled that the killing was "the will of Allah. This is the will of God."

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) —  An Afghan teenager killed an American soldier in eastern Afghanistan by stabbing him in the neck while he played with a group of local children, officials said Monday.










The killing comes as the monthly U.S. death toll rose sharply in March to 14 with the start of the spring fighting season when the Taliban and other insurgents take advantage of improved weather to step up attacks.

Sgt. Michael Cable, 26, was guarding Afghan and U.S. officials meeting in a province near the border with Pakistan when the stabbing occurred last Wednesday, two senior U.S. officials said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

The attack occurred after the soldiers had secured the area for the meeting, but one of the U.S. officials said the youth was not believed to have been a member of the Afghan security forces or in uniform so it was not being classified as an insider attack.

The official said the attacker was thought to be about 16 years old, but the age couldn't be verified.

The Afghan and American dignitaries were attending the swearing-in ceremony of Afghan Local Police in Shinwar district in Nangarhar province, senior district official Zalmai Khan said. Afghan Local Police, or ALP, recruits are drawn from villages and backed by the U.S. military.

The soldier was playing with a group of children outside when the attacker came from behind and stabbed him in the neck with a large knife, Khan said, adding the young man had escaped to nearby Pakistan.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said the young man was acting independently when he killed the soldier but had joined the Islamic militant movement since fleeing the scene.

The Pentagon said in a statement last week that Cable, of Philpot, Ky., died from injuries sustained when his unit was attacked by enemy forces.

At least 14 U.S. soldiers died in March, compared with four in the previous two months, according to an Associated Press tally.

The number of American troops killed in Afghanistan has dropped sharply as international forces increasingly take a back seat while preparing to end their combat mission by the end of 2014. But they continue to face dangers ranging from roadside bombs to attacks by their Afghan counterparts or insurgents disguised as government forces.

~JERRY MICULIK FASTEST REVOLVER SHOOTER IN THE WORLD~

The revolver-shooting skill and speed demonstrated in the videos below by Jerry Miculek is mind-boggling. Almost super-human.

This man is a legend in the sport.  Don't think he'll ever be on the Christmas card list of anti-gun liberals Piers Morgan and Jim Carrey.

In this first video, famous among shooting competitors and gun enthusiasts, Miculik fires eight rounds in ONE  second.



Background and competition shooting records of Miculek, who is also a competition shooting instructor and an experienced gunsmith, from Shooting USA:
http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/JERRY_MICULEK/jerry_miculek.html

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/70291049-background-checks-gun-purchases-under-obama


There have been 70,291,049 background checks for gun purchases since President Obama took office, according to data released by the FBI.

Over the same time period, the number of background checks completed under President George W. Bush was 36,090,415, or about half the number conducted under Obama.

      Just heard yesterday that Cookson's are thinking about giving Obuma "salesman of the year" award.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 03, 2013, 03:28:40 PM
      Just heard yesterday that Cookson's are thinking about giving Obuma "salesman of the year" award.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

http://www.kansas.com/2013/04/03/2745420/bill-legalizing-switchblades-passes.html

Kansas lawmakers are about to lift a 55-year ban on the ownership of switchblade knives and stilettos.

The state Senate passed a bill to legalize the long-outlawed blades and the House is expected to give final approval on Thursday, the Wichita Eagle reports.

A law that was passed in 1958, when youth gangs ran rampant, prohibited the manufacturing, selling, or possession of switchblades and stilettos in the Sunflower State.

Supporters of lifting the ban argued that switchblades are useful to people such as emergency workers and farmers who might need to open a knife with one hand while using the other.

"[Switchblade] sounds dangerous and negative," Republican Rep. Sue Boldra, who supported the bill, told the newspaper.

"However, living in America, I still believe that a law-abiding citizen has many rights . . . There are purposes for them that don't have to be for crime."

Gaffe of the week... Pres. Obama made an absurd statement while he was speaking at a California Democrat fundraiser (wasn't the election from Hades over just a few months ago? Why is he fundraising again already?). While speaking in San Francisco, he said that a "fully automatic weapon" was used at Sandy Hook Elementary School when Adam Lanza opened fire on innocent children and school staff.

No. It was not.

The weapon used by Lanza to murder those babies in Newtown was NOT a "fully automatic weapon," Mr. President. We've been told repeatedly that Lanza used a Bushmaster .223-caliber AR-15 rifle, which is a semi-automatic. He also had two handguns with him, a 10-mm Sig Sauer and a 9-mm Glock, both of which are also semi-automatic pistols.

Did the president accidentally blunder, or deliberately lie?


Allahpundit at Hot Air is giving Pres. Obama the benefit of the doubt for his gigantic gaffe, his false "fully automatic weapon" claim.

A magnanimous gesture, one that the liberal media would never have made if Pres. George W. Bush had made the same ridiculous error and/or committed the same manipulation of the truth... Did Obama tell a Democratic audience that a "fully automatic weapon" was used at Newtown?
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/04/did-obama-tell-a-democratic-audience-that-a-fully-automatic-weapon-was-used-at-newtown/


A few Hot Air readers' comments on Obama's "fully automatic weapon" blunder:

From Bishop:
What a jackass, what an embarrassing, petulant, jackass fool we have as preznit.

If the Founders knew we would eventually reach the point of electing a bugwit like Dog Eater, they probably would have burned the Declaration and said "What's the point in fighting and sacrificing?"

From rogerb:
It doesn't matter because his supporters don't know or care, either.

Facts, knowledge of the topic, and well-reasoned positions are not important in this debate.

From hawkeye54:
To most leftists, any gun beyond a flintlock muzzle loader, is a "fully automatic weapon".

Repeated publicly,loudly, passionately, and hourly, will get the low-info voting public to believe it and cry for the outlawing of anything privately owned that doesn't use ball and black powder ammo, and maybe even that.

From Schadenfreude:
Obama puts Muenchhausen, Orwell, Machiavelly and Pinocchio to shame, all in one...but his sheeple don't know who these people were.

So... the Feds can give no reason, yank the license of a gun store that violated no laws of which we know.  Why do this?  To frighten other gun stores.  You are now suddenly evil for having a law-abiding profession.  But radicals like that bitch Kathy Boudin who kill people can get hired by colleges and paid big money.  Unreal.  If you think that China, Russia, N.Korea and most ME countries are our biggest enemies... Sorry... you are wrong.  America's biggest enemy is the Obama Adm., the far-left media and socialist democrats.
...Warph

(Reuters) – The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms said on Friday it had revoked the federal license of a Connecticut gun retailer that sold a weapon to the mother of Adam Lanza, who killed 26 people at an elementary school in December.

The agency on December 20 revoked the license of Riverview Gun Sales in East Windsor, Connecticut, ATF spokeswoman Debora Seifert said. The revocation was reported in The Journal News, of Westchester County, New York, on Friday.

"We did revoke their federal firearms license," she said. The agency did not publicly disclose a reason for the closure.

A woman who answered the telephone at Riverview on Friday, and did not give her name, confirmed the store had sold a weapon to Lanza's mother, Nancy, and that its license had been revoked. She declined further comment.

Nancy Lanza was her son's first victim in the December 14 attack. He shot her in their family home before driving to Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, where he gunned down 20 young children and six adults before shooting himself dead.

The weapons Adam Lanza, 20, used in the attack were all legally purchased and registered.

3D Printed Guns (Documentary)

         

Published on Mar 25, 2013

Cody R Wilson has figured out how to print a semi-automatic rifle from the comfort of his own home. Now he's putting all the information online so that others will join him.
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This is a story about the rapid evolution of a technology that has forced the American legal system to play catch up. Cody Wilson, a 25 year old University of Texas Law student, is an advocate for the open source production of firearms using 3D printing technology. This makes him a highly controversial figure on both sides of the gun control issue. MOTHERBOARD sat down with Cody in Austin, Texas to talk about the constitution, the legal system, and to watch him make and test-fire a 3D-printed gun.

Produced By Erin Lee Carr
Edited by Chris O'Coin

Read more on MOTHERBOARD here: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/click-print-gun-the-inside-story-of-the-3d-p...

To find out more about what the ATF says about 3D-printed guns, read this: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-atf-is-unconvinced-3d-guns-compare-to-re...

Published on Mar 21, 2013

PRINTABLE 3D GUN Creator Cody Wilson Meets With Alex Jones. The SYSTEM is SCARED

SUBSCRIBE for more 3D printed gun parts and gun videos - http://www.youtube.com/829SPEEDY

Alex welcomes crypto-anarchist and law student Cody Wilson who developed and published open source gun designs suitable for 3D printing. Cody will join Alex in-studio.
http://defensedistributed.com/

The specific purposes for which this corporation is organized are: To defend the civil liberty of popular access to arms as guaranteed by the United States Constitution and affirmed by the United States Supreme Court, through facilitating global access to, and the collaborative production of, information and knowledge related to the 3D printing of arms; and to publish and distribute, at no cost to the public, such information and knowledge in promotion of the public interest.

That technology is evolving before his very eyes. The RepRap Project aims to produce free and open source software for 3D printers, including software that allows the printer to produce its own parts. Two years ago RepRap allowed printers to create tiny plastic parts for small motors as well as circuit boards for computers. Today it allows hobbyists to build household items like fully-functional clocks, flashlights, iPad cases, watchbands ... and receivers for rifles.

And it is this virtual explosion in technology that is making other gun controllers increasingly nervous, including Mark Gibbs, a contributor at Forbes,

A video showing a gun magazine created by a 3D printer was pulled off YouTube today, only to reappear later in the afternoon.

The removal notice for the popular clip, which was posted by a Texas group known as Defense Distributed, said the video was removed "as a violation of YouTube's policy against spam, scams, and commercially deceptive content."

Their idea is nothing short of a slap in the face to gun legislation everywhere: an open-source site where gun enthusiasts from around the world convene to share and download gun design blueprints and files.

When Stratasys Inc, the 3D printer manufacturing company that leased the printer, caught wind of what Cody Wilson and his organization Defense Distributed were planning to use their printer for, they issued an email last week stating they would need to confiscate their printer prior to it even being used.
"3d printing" "3d gun" gun weapon rifle "home made" money cash technology printing printer billionaire crazy future "blue prints" blueprints defcad "gun parts" control "gun control" system matrix "printable gun" symbolism danger firearm patriot patriotic america u.s. "united states" material factory makerbot dollar dollars usd video trend trending viral fire bullets working power 2013 control institution guarantee banking banks economy "rifle magazine" ar15 m15 revolution anonymous government license lisense parts receiver federal firearms license alex jones infowars gerald celente david icke bilderberg elite mafia cyprus 829speedy

Wilson, a 2nd year University of Texas law student, and his group raised $20,000 last month to fund an operation known as the Wiki Weapon Project. The project's goal was to produce a firearm solely using a 3D printer to manufacture all parts. Once the plans are tested and finalized, the group would then upload the files to the Internet for literally anyone to download, print and ultimately assemble.

The email was addressed to Wilson himself and came on behalf of Stratasys' Legal Counsel, stating:
"It is the policy of Stratasys not to knowingly allow its printers to be used for illegal purposes. Therefore, please be advised that your lease of the Stratasys uPrint SE is canceled at this time and Stratasys is making arrangements to pick up the printer."

"The only protest I had, the only exchange back I had was, "Well, legal counsel, our opinion is if these weapons are title I weapons, we don't need registration, we don't need license, we don't need anyone's approval to do this. This is totally legal, this is America," you know? Patriotism," Wilson told Infowars.com. "That wasn't good enough for them, and they emailed me back and they said "Look, we're not gonna get into a legal debate about it. We want it back," and so fine."

"If you aim to sell your services as a gunsmith (e.g., "I charge $50 an hour to make a gun") or you intend to sell the weapon once you've made it (e.g., "I charge $500 for this particular gun"), you need to obtain a federal manufacturer's license. [1140] If the weapon is for personal use, no manufacturing license is required.

Washington, DC --(Ammoland.com)- Tell them Gun Owners OPPOSE "universal" background checks.

"Gun-control measures that seemed destined to become law after the school shootings in Newtown, Conn., are in jeopardy amid a fierce lobbying campaign by firearms advocates." – The Washington Post, April 1, 2013

We realize that you have been receiving several alerts from Gun Owners of America in recent days. And while we apologize for filling your to-do list so frequently, we hope you realize that we are in an all-out fight to stop Congress from infringing upon our liberties.

Your activism is making a difference, but we need to keep the pressure on!

As so, as we approach "gun control Armageddon" next week, we are faced, not surprisingly, with "sell-outs and rumors of sell-outs."

But we can conclude that all gun control will die UNLESS Republicans flinch. And this is why, now that anti-gun Senator Chuck Schumer is on the verge of a humiliating defeat, he's scrambling for some feckless Republican who will help him turn GOP victory into GOP defeat.

Anti-gun columnist Ruth Marcus spoke for Schumer last Wednesday morning when she suggested that, as a desperation measure, anti-gunners might have to drop record-keeping from the universal registry bill.

But even if ALL record-keeping were dropped, which is doubtful, background checks would mean that:

•Americans would still have to get the government's permission to own a firearm from whatever source.
•Americans in rural areas without access to the Internet could be barred from gun ownership.
•The Brady Check system would break down on weekends even more often than it currently does.
•Eight percent of all applicants would still be illegally denied the right to purchase firearms through "false negatives."
•Schumer would still claim that he "broke the back of the gun lobby."
•The universal registry bill would still be nothing but a vehicle for consideration of other gun control now – and a platform for gun control demands in the future.

The solution to all of this is easy, and it's for Senators to support the Paul-Cruz-Lee filibuster! Tell them not to let Congress sidle up to the gun control buffet and to defeat the motion to proceed to gun control.

ACTION: Click here to contact your Senators. Demand they support the Paul-Cruz-Lee filibuster and oppose the motion to proceed to any gun control vehicle:  http://capwiz.com/gunowners/issues/alert/?alertid=62562581

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Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/gun-control-can-be-passed-only-if-republicans-sell-out/#ixzz2PkzgPbiE

A teenage girl skyrocketed to the center of the gun control debate when a YouTube video of her three-minute pro-gun speech went viral, acquiring more than 2.3 million views.

Sarah Merkle, 15 of Maryland, has been shooting guns for almost eight years and is a member of the Maryland Rifle Club and Maryland State Rifle Club. She says in the video that signing anti-gun legislation would not be doing away with gun violence but rather "liberating American citizens of our constitutional rights."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/04/teen-girls-pro-gun-video-gets-2-3-million-hits/

(my comment) She needs her gun shooting scholarships to prestigious universities.
Will we deny her advanced education? (my comment)

April 11, 2013


When the Washington State Republican Party holds its annual fundraising dinner this weekend, one of the items up for auction will be an AR-15 style rifle  — the type of semi-automatic weapon targeted by many gun-control advocates since Adam Lanza used one to rapidly kill 20 children and six adults at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school.

State GOP Chairman Kirby Wilbur touted the gun auction on Twitter Wednesday. In an email to The Seattle Times, he said the party has auctioned other weapons in the past and that the AR-15 sale was not meant as a pro-gun political statement.

"It's intended as a pro-fundraising statement. I think folks already know the state GOP is committed to gun rights," he said in an email.

In the wake of the Newtown massacre, gun-control advocates have pushed for a renewed assault-weapons ban, heightened background checks for gun buyers and limits on high-capacity magazines. But many Americans have reacted by rushing to buy AR-15 style rifles, whose prices have shot up due to the demand.

Wilbur said he is aware of the controversy surrounding the rifles, but added: "It's also the best-selling weapon in America, I own two, they have never killed an innocent person."

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/politicsnorthwest/2013/04/11/state-gop-to-auction-ar-15-at-dinner/

Dear Joe Blow -

This week, two U.S. senators, a Democrat and a Republican with "A" ratings from the NRA, introduced a bill to close loopholes in background checks for all commercial gun sales.

Let that sink in for a minute. Millions of Americans have demanded action, and Congress is listening.

Now that we've got legislation, the next step is passing it. And no surprise here: Allies of the gun lobby are threatening to block a vote. You can be damn sure they're going to do the same thing if the bill makes it to the House, too.

OFA is taking the gun lobby head on. We won't stand by silently while the families in Newtown, Aurora, and Tucson grieve. So many people have worked tirelessly for congressional action.

We won't let Congress forget.

Chip in $5 or more today — and let's get this done:

https://donate.barackobama.com/Demand-Action

Thanks for your help.

Jon

Jon Carson
Executive Director
Organizing for Action

Nope... nothing partisan about this. Gee... I wonder how all that came about?  Could it have been this:


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/11/sen-mark-kirk-booze-and-boat-parties-smoothed-bipa/

Sen. Mark Kirk says the real driving force behind the gun deal that was hatched by bipartisan work was booze and boat retreats.

The Illinois Republican said to reporters that visits to the Black Tie, a yacht owned by Democrat Sen. Joe Manchin, played a large role in the Democratic-Republican come-together over background checks and other legislation related to gun control, Roll Call reported.

"You guys really ought to go out to National Harbor and see the Black Tie, which has been much of the reason for much of the bipartisan cooperation around here," he said, as quoted in Roll Call.

Frequent visitors to the luxury vessel: Democrat Sen. Kay Hagan and Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski, Mr. Kirk said.

"Sometimes alcoholic beverages might be served and ties might ... get loosened," he said, in Roll Call.

Mr. Manchin and Mr. Kirk are known in the Senate as great friends, both in and out of office, Roll Call said.

[...]



posted at 5:21 pm on April 9, 2013 by Ed Morrissey
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/09/oops-ofa-loses-fight-over-organizing-for-action-domains/


From Politico:

An arbitrator has denied the organization's effort to obtain the domain name organizingforaction.net, registered by a quick-moving computer technician in Castle Rock, Colo., on Jan. 18, when the news broke that Obama's former advisors were launching the group.

Derek Bovard proceeded to configure the site so all the hits were directed to the website for the National Rifle Assn. It was one of three domain names for Organizing for Action that the group failed to register before it launched.

"If they don't like it, they can buy it from me," Bovard told the Los Angeles Times at the time.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-organizing-for-action-website-nra-20130129,0,3159504.story

Instead of just purchasing the domain, OFA chose to force Bovard to give up the domain names through legal action.  That backfired, in part because OFA didn't even bother to register its name as a trademark until three weeks after Bovard bought the domain:

In a decision issued last week, Karl V. Fink, a retired judge in Ann Arbor, Mich., concluded that Organizing for Action did not provide evidence that the name was "a distinctive identifier" of the group or that it owned any trademarks at the time.

(In fact, the group did not file a trademark registration for "Organizing for Action" until Feb. 7, according to United States Patent and Trademark Office records.)

D'oh! Well, what about using a .org or the much more common .com versions of the domain name?  OFA neglected to secure those, too.  Both are owned by a Florida Republican, whose website offers OFA and its followers a little advice:

But those sites now include a disclaimer stating that they are "NOT affiliated with any 501(c)(3), 501(c)(4), or other entity or business that uses the generic phrase Organizing For Action as all or a portion of its name."

"Organizingforaction.com is not seeking to prevent you from contacting any such entities, businesses, or their websites, or to disrupt their activities," the disclaimer reads. "Therefore, if you are seeking a different entity, business, or website, it is suggested that you perform a Google or other Internet search to locate it."

It's not the only battle they're losing, either.  National Journal's Beth Reinhard reports that the gun-control push has gone badly as OFA's first attempt to impose the Obama agenda:

Although the first votes on gun -control legislation have yet to be cast, by some measures the National Rifle Association has already won.

Obama's ambitious plans to ban assault weapons and limit magazine capacities are off the table, while the NRA suggested it could support the most likely outcome — expanded background checks — as recently as 1999. The NRA claims that the president's efforts have triggered a fundraising surge and boosted its membership from 4 million to nearly 5 million. Members of Congress who seemed open to legislation after the shooting deaths of 20 Connecticut schoolchildren are still on the fence, while Republicans are threatening a filibuster.

Perhaps a battle pitting one of the oldest and most aggressive lobbying organizations against President Obama's fledgling advocacy shop wasn't a fair fight.

"Fledgling"? This organization has existed in one form or another since 2007.  All they have done is change names, and they haven't even managed to do that correctly.

Published on Feb 19, 2013

Katie Worthman was born in Austria, and lived there for seven years under Hitlers brutal regime, and after world war II, she also lived three years under Soviet communist occupation. Needless to say, but Mrs. Worthman is someone who has an acute awareness of how media distorts things and tyranny comes to power. Mrs. Worthman, not only says that the media was wrong about how Hitler came to power, but she says that "In the beginning, Hitler didn't look like, or talk like a monster at all. He talked like an American politician."

She says that the story of Hitler overthrowing governments and people in order to come to power just simply isn't true, but rather the Austrian people elected Hitler with 98% of the vote at the ballot box. Mrs. Worthman then goes on to say that the Austrian people had guns, but the government began to say that they were dangerous, so they began to implement gun registration. Then she said this was followed by turning in their weapons to the police station in order to cut down on crime, and if citizens didn't... there would be capital punishment.

Mrs. Worthman says that the dictatorship, "didn't happen over night, but it took 5 years, gradually, little by little, to escalate to a dictatorship."

She then goes on to say that, "When the people fear the government, that's tyranny, but when the government fears the people, that's liberty."

As a Nazi survivor, what is her advice to us... "Keep your guns, keep your guns and buy more guns."

Let's be clear.

This new national background check legislation is not designed to stop criminals from getting guns, it is designed to use the tragedy of Newtown, Connecticut to establish a national database of gun owners.

It would serve no other purpose except to allow the federal government to have a pathway to confiscate guns.

America's eyes have been opened to what anti-firearm politicians want through their actions in California, Connecticut, Maryland and New York.  The cloak of reasonability has been lifted and the predator is bearing its teeth.

In those states, one U.S. Supreme Court Justice's vote stood between the people and confiscation.

And one national election could easily change both a future Court vote reconsidering Heller and those in Congress on gun bans and confiscation.

This is why this Congress must defeat Obama, Reid and Schumer's attempt to put a pathway to gun confiscation on the federal books under the guise of expanding a national background check.

It is also why any Member of Congress who supports the Obama, Reid and Schumer national background check bill is actually voting to allow the future confiscation of firearms.  There simply is no other justification for the inclusion of a permanent gun owner database within the bill.

Next week, NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN will try to tell the American people that the vote in the Senate is about stopping future tragedies and having a national background check system.

Obama will stand in Connecticut and Colorado crying crocodile tears as he exhorts Congress to pass a national background check.

All of them know they are lying, and the true objective of the legislation.  Now, so do you.

Read whole story at NetRightDaily.com: http://netrightdaily.com/2013/04/obamas-pathway-to-gun-confiscation/#ixzz2QK7Oo59V

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/us/politics/compromise-on-background-checks.html?hp&_r=1&pagewanted=all&

Repeatedly rebuffed, Mr. Manchin, a conservative West Virginia Democrat, decided to call on his friend [RINO traitor] Senator Patrick J. Toomey, the Pennsylvania Republican known almost exclusively for his conservative fiscal positions. On a recent Amtrak trip from New York to Washington where they happened to intersect, Mr. Toomey agreed to listen.

On Wednesday the two gun owners, long favorites of the National Rifle Association, came together in a last-ditch effort on a background check compromise that opened the door to a rare Congressional consideration of gun law changes, beginning Thursday. While their agreement ensures only that the measure will reach the Senate floor for debate, it rescued gun law changes sought by President Obama and gun control groups from an early defeat.

Lawmakers who represent neighboring states, allies on energy issues and temperamentally aligned, Mr. Manchin and Mr. Toomey announced they had gingerly put together a bipartisan deal that would expand background checks to cover unlicensed dealers at gun shows as well as all online sales.

It would also maintain record-keeping provisions that law enforcement officials find essential in tracking guns used in crimes, but that some Republicans had balked at. Unlike the initial Democratic plan, it does not cover sales between family members and neighbors.

For Mr. Toomey, a Republican toiling in a swing state chock-full of suburban women who often favor gun safety legislation, a relatively modest measure to expand background checks seemed both politically viable and in need of a Republican imprimatur. Gun legislation was "not something I sought," he said.

"I've got to tell you, candidly, I don't consider criminal background checks gun control," said Mr. Toomey, who led the conservative advocacy group Club for Growth after a stint in the House.

He acknowledged that it was hard to take heat from fellow conservatives over his reach across the aisle.

"There have been people who've called the office expressing disappointment," he said in an interview. But some have expressed support, too, he said.

For Mr. Manchin, whose signature campaign ad in 2010 featured him shooting environmental legislation with a hunting rifle, Mr. Toomey represented his best hope of a credible Republican ally who may be able to bring along fellow conservatives to the bill.

"I wanted to make sure whoever I was with came from a gun culture such as mine," Mr. Manchin, who opposes most gun control legislation but wants to close background check loopholes, said in an interview. "I just appreciate Pat so much for being able to get there." Mr. Manchin, who wept during a meeting with family members of victims of the Newtown shooting, has been lauded by gun control advocates for his help.

The politics of the deal are so fragile that Mr. Toomey asked that one of the Democratic co-sponsors of the amendment, SenatorCharles E. Schumerof New York, not appear at a news conference Wednesday morning, Senate aides said. Mr. Schumer agreed, and told Mr. Manchin at the 50th-birthday party of the television hostJoe Scarboroughthat he would not be attending.

The details took so much fine tuning that on Tuesday, as the two senators negotiated, "around 4:00 I was concerned we couldn't do it," Mr. Manchin said.

"We took a half-hour break," he said, and managed to put it over the line late Tuesday night.

The gun bill will receive its first procedural vote in the Senate on Thursday. The House leadership sounded cool on the measure but for now the fight is in the Senate.

The bill also enhances some gun rights. For instance, it would allow gun owners who have undergone background checks within the past five years for a concealed-carry permit to use the permit to buy guns in other states, and it would relax some of the restrictions on hunters traveling with their guns through states that do not permit them. It would also allow active members of the military to buy firearms in their home states, currently prohibited when they are stationed outside their state.

The compromise, which two weeks ago seemed elusive, is intended to pull in as many members from both parties as possible, including Democrats running for re-election in Republican-leaning states.

"There was the danger that we might not accomplish anything," Mr. Toomey said, adding that he and Mr. Manchin have consulted with the National Rifle Association. The group released a statement painting it as a defeat for the White House and MayorMichael R. Bloombergof New York but also saying the proposal was ultimately ineffective.

"While the overwhelming rejection of President Obama and Mayor Bloomberg's 'universal' background check agenda is a positive development," the group said, "we have a broken mental health system that is not going to be fixed with more background checks at gun shows. The sad truth is that no background check would have prevented the tragedy in Newtown, Aurora or Tucson."

The compromise was met with cautious optimism by Mr. Obama, who has made new gun regulations a centerpiece of his second term, and gun control advocates."This is not my bill," Mr. Obama said in a statement, "and there are aspects of the agreement that I might prefer to be stronger."

The president said the Senate proposal "does represent welcome and significant bipartisan progress" and recognizes that some in both parties agree "we've got to do something to stem the tide of gun violence."

Michelle [Mooch] Obama stepped into the gun debate on Wednesday as well, speaking before hundreds of business leaders in Chicago, her hometown. "Right now my husband is fighting as hard as he can and engaging as many people as he can to pass common-sense reforms to protect our children from gun violence," Mrs. Obama said. "And these reforms deserve a vote in Congress."

Many issues remain unresolved in the Senate proposal, chiefly how such new regulations would be enforced, and how law enforcement officials would be able to easily tell the provenance of some guns. But the measure would close many of the loopholes in gun laws.

On Wednesday families of the Newtown shooting victims continued to meet with senators to encourage them to support the bill, and Senator Christopher S. Murphy, a freshman Democrat from Connecticut, chose to focus his first speech on the Senate floor on gun violence, bringing large photographs of some of the 20 children killed in the massacre to the floor.

Mr. Toomey, who said he had long supported background checks, described Mr. Manchin as a great partner. "It's going to be intense for the next few days," he said.


Monica Davey contributed reporting from Chicago.

A version of this article appeared in print on April 11, 2013, on page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: Senator's Search for Ally Keeps Gun Bill Alive.

Oops! New York State Police Admit to Major Mistake in Gun Confiscation Case

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/11/oops-new-york-state-police-admit-to-big-mistake-in-gun-confiscation-case/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/09/a-form-of-gun-confiscation-has-reportedly-begun-in-new-york-state-heres-the-justification-being-used/


This is amazing.  Not only was it offensive and unconstitutional.... but they also had the wrong person.  A mental health provision that is not narrowly drawn is susceptible of broad interpretation and can be used to deny rights very easily.

Oh yeah, and let's ask the question... who told the NY State Police to go after the man... and how did they get access to someone's medical records?

At least four Republican senators likely to vote yes on gun purchase background-checks bill
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013


Just Toomey, Collins, Kirk, and (AZ Goofball) Maverick John McCain so far, but expect a few more to flip soon. Jeff Flake's on the fence but he's probably worried about voting no on gun control across the board when fellow Arizonan Gabby Giffords is campaigning hard against it in the media. (Since McCain's apparently voting yes, Flake has some cover to follow suit.) Dean Heller has also been galloping towards the center ever since his close call against Shelley Berkley in last year's Senate race in purplish Nevada. That's six Republicans — normally enough to break a filibuster when the Senate's 55 Democrats vote together. Are they voting together this time? Pryor and Begich voted against even considering the bill, so presumably they're both no's the rest of the way. Frank Lautenberg's ill and unlikely to be on the floor this week, so that's 58 for Reid right now.

Who'll be numbers 59 and 60?

More @: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3008020/posts

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/senate-vote-background-checks-manchin-toomey.php

The Senate voted 54-46 on Wednesday afternoon for bipartisan legislation to expand background checks to gun shows and Internet sales, falling short of the 60-vote threshold to overcome a filibuster. Families of the Newtown, Conn. shooting victims were present in the chamber and looked on as senators cast their votes.

The Republicans who voted for the bill were Sens. Pat Toomey (PA), Mark Kirk (IL), Susan Collins (ME) and (Rino) John McCain (AZ).   Democrats who voted against it were Sens. Heidi Heitkamp (ND), Max Baucus (MT), Mark Begich (AK) and Mark Pryor (AR) — the latter three are up for reelection in 2014.

Senate Majority Leader (Dirty) Harry Reid (D-NV) changed his vote to no in the last minute to reserve the right to bring up the bill again.


[...]






New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, one of the nation's most prominent gun control critics, issued a scathing statement Wednesday after legislation to expand background checks to gun shows and Internet sales failed in the Senate:

Today's vote is a damning indictment of the stranglehold that special interests have on Washington. More than 40 U.S. senators would rather turn their backs on the 90 percent of Americans who support comprehensive background checks than buck the increasingly extremist wing of the gun lobby. Democrats – who are so quick to blame Republicans for our broken gun laws – could not stand united. And Republicans – who are so quick to blame Democrats for not being tough enough on crime – handed criminals a huge victory, by preserving their ability to buy guns illegally at gun shows and online and keeping the illegal trafficking market well-fed. Senators Manchin and Toomey – as well as Majority Leader Reid and Senators Schumer, Kirk, Collins, McCain and others – deserve real credit for coming together around a compromise bill that struck a fair balance, and President Obama and Vice-President Biden deserve credit for their leadership since the Sandy Hook massacre. But even with some bi-partisan support, a common-sense public safety reform died in the U.S. Senate at the hands of those who are more interested in attempting to protect their own political careers – or some false sense of ideological purity – than protecting the lives of innocent Americans. The only silver lining is that we now know who refuses to stand with the 90 percent of Americans – and in 2014, our ever-expanding coalition of supporters will work to make sure that voters don't forget.

Police Departments Beg And Barter For Ammo While DHS Buys Up 1.6 Billion Rounds In Past Year

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/police-departments-beg-and-barter-ammo-while-dhs-buys-16-billion


Gun Shops Rationing Ammo: 'We Have Police Departments that are Scrambling'

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/gun-shops-rationing-ammo-we-have-police-departments-are-scrambling


DHS Bullet Inventory Is 246,451,611, Chief Procurement Officer Testifies

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/dhs-bullet-inventory-246451611-chief-procurement-officer-testifies

(As someone said, "What you're told and the truth is somewhere inbetween."  First of the year it was announced that DHS bought 1.2 Billion rounds of hollowpoint ammunition.  Now onlly 0.2 billion in inventory, what happened to the billion rounds?)

Worried that the feds are purposely hoarding ammo which is consequently leading to shortages in the marketplace, two Oklahoma lawmakers introduced a bill last Friday that would place sensible limits on the amount of ammunition the Obama administration is allowed to purchase on a biannual basis.

The AMMO Act, which stands for Ammunition Management for More Obtainability, is the brainchild of U.S. Sen. Jim Inohfe (R-OK) and Congressman Frank Lucas (R-OK) and it would specifically "restrict agencies from obtaining additional ammunition for a six-month period if current agency stockpiles are higher than its monthly averages prior to the Obama Administration."

According to the bill, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) would keep tabs on the ammo being purchased and stockpiled by the government and weigh that against the relative supply of ammo available to the public.  However, the Dept. of Defense would not be included in the evaluation and would be free to purchase ammo, unchecked.

"President Obama has been adamant about curbing law-abiding Americans' access and opportunities to exercise their Second Amendment rights," said Inhofe, in a press release.

"One way the Obama Administration is able to do this is by limiting what's available in the market with federal agencies purchasing unnecessary stockpiles of ammunition. As the public learned in a House committee hearing this week, the Department of Homeland Security has two years worth of ammo on hand and allots nearly 1,000 more rounds of ammunition for DHS officers than is used on average by our Army officers," he continued.

"The AMMO Act of 2013 will enforce transparency and accountability of federal agencies' ammunition supply while also protecting law-abiding citizens access to these resources," Inhofe concluded.

http://www.guns.com/2013/04/30/oklahoma-lawmakers-introduce-ammo-act-to-prevents-feds-from-stockpiling-ammo-video/

First it says the man shot himself with an AR-15. Then the next paragraph it says he shot himself with a pistol. Funny I have never heard of an AR-15 pistol. Teresa , you are more of a gun nut than me---you ever see a AR-15 pistol ?

Police: Man fires shots, then shoots self at Bush International Airport in Houston
Published May 02, 2013

FoxNews.com

Shots were fired near a ticket counter at Houston's largest airport on Thursday, and at least one person was critically injured, a Houston police spokesman said.

Houston police responded to a call that there had been a "discharge of firearms" at 1:35 p.m. at the Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston, a police source told MyFoxHouston.com.

KHOU.com reports that a man fatally shot himself with an AR-15 near a security checkpoint. Reports indicate that a body was found in the lobby of Terminal B of the airport.

The Houston Police Department told KHOU.com that an air marshal fired at the suspect, but missed. The man then pulled out a pistol and shot himself.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/02/report-shots-fired-at-bush-international-airport-in-houston/?test=latestnews#ixzz2SAl5rUHf

Jarhead, Bryan Williams said on the news that the man fired an AR-15 in the air and then pulled out a pistol and shot himself.
Frank

So Frank, do we believe the above report or do we believe Brian Williams ? Flip a coin I guess but personally if Brian Williams says the sun sets in the west I'm gonna run outside to make sure he's got his story right---and that goes for anyone who works at NBC. :)

TOPEKA, Kan. –  U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has told Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback that a new state law attempting to block federal regulation of some guns is unconstitutional and that the federal government is willing to go to court over the issue.

But Brownback replied in a letter Thursday that Kansans hold dear their right to bear arms and are protecting the state's sovereignty. Secretary of State Kris Kobach, a former law professor who helped draft the law, accused the nation's top law enforcement official of "blustering" over the issue.

"The people of Kansas have clearly expressed their sovereign will," Brownback said at the conclusion of his letter. "It is my hope that upon further review, you will see their right to do so."

Kansas' law declares that the federal government has no authority to regulate guns, ammunition and accessories manufactured, sold and kept only in Kansas. The law also makes it a felony for a federal agent to enforce any law, regulation, order or treaty covering those items.

The new statute says that Kansas-only guns, ammunition and accessories aren't a part of interstate commerce, which the federal government regulates under the U.S. Constitution. But in a letter to Brownback, Holder said the Constitution prohibits states from pre-empting federal laws.

Holder sent his letter April 26, the day after the Kansas law took effect, and the U.S. attorney's office for Kansas released it Thursday.

"Kansas may not prevent federal employees and officials from carrying out their official responsibilities," Holder wrote in his letter. "And a state certainly may not criminalize the exercise of federal responsibilities."

Patricia Stoneking, president of the Kansas State Rifle Association, said gun rights supporters were prepared for such a response from President Barack Obama's administration. The president has sought new gun control measures since December's deadly mass elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn.

The Republican governor is a gun rights supporter, and the measure passed the GOP-dominated Legislature by wide margins. Kobach also is a Republican.

"I think the people of Kansas are going to back this up," Stoneking said. "Probably thousands of grass-roots citizens are all in."

Brownback said in his letter to Holder: "The right to keep and bear arms is a right that Kansans hold dear."

The governor added, "The people of Kansas have repeatedly and overwhelmingly reaffirmed their commitment to protecting this fundamental right."

The Kansas law is modeled on a 2009 Montana law that is being reviewed by a federal appeals court, and Alaska lawmakers approved a similar measure last month. Alabama, Missouri and Oklahoma lawmakers are considering similar legislation.

Supporters of the Kansas law softened it — to say that federal agents wouldn't be arrested or detained while trials were pending — and insist that it will withstand court scrutiny. A federal agent convicted for the first time under the Kansas law could face six months in prison, though probation would be the presumed sentence.

"These hard-working federal employees cannot be forced to choose between the risk of a criminal prosecution and the continued performance of their federal duties," Barry Grissom, the U.S. attorney for Kansas, said in a statement Thursday.

But Kobach called Holder's analysis "simplistic and incorrect" and said the Kansas law is valid to protect the state's residents against unconstitutional measures enacted by Congress.

"We are very, very confident of our position," Kobach said in an interview. "The state of Kansas is not in any way afraid of a legal challenge."

The office of Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt has already anticipated a potential legal challenge from the federal government, and has asked legislators to increase its budget by $225,000 over the next two years to cover litigation costs.

Stoneking said a dispute could arise after a local gunsmith sells a firearm manufactured in Kansas to a state resident without complying with federal requirements for a background check on the buyer or registering the gun. Kobach agreed.

"Until that actually happens, there won't be any litigation," Stoneking said. "The federal government will have to have some way of finding out."

Supporters of the Kansas law have said they worry about attempts by the federal government to restrict or ban the sale of some weapons — or even confiscate them.

Holder said in his letter that federal law enforcement agencies will "continue to execute their duties to enforce all federal firearms laws and regulations.

"Moreover, the United States will take all appropriate action, including litigation if necessary, to prevent the State of Kansas from interfering with the activities of federal officials enforcing federal law," Holder wrote.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/03/kansas-governor-attorney-general-holder-spar-over-new-state-gun-law/?test=latestnews#ixzz2SEB1OuLv

Lock and load! The ten most bizarre guns on display at the National Rifle Association convention


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319339/Lock-load-The-bizarre-guns-display-National-Rifle-Association-convention.html

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Anti-gun lawmakers have some spinnin' and 'splainin' to do after three Democrat New Jersey state senators were overhead chatting among themselves near the end of a gun control committee meeting.

(But, their microphone hadn't been turned off.  Hot Mic.... Oops... A PR fiasco.  LOL)

The three liberal politicians unwittingly and shockingly revealed what they really think of law-abiding gun owners, mocking them, and what their true, power-grabbing intentions are with increased gun control in the state.

One of the lines recorded is believed to be "We needed a bill that was going to confiscate, confiscate, confiscate." While that speaker of that line hasn't been identified, the people speaking are believed to be NJ Democrats Loretta Weinberg (D-Bergen), Sandra Cunningham (D-Hudson), and Linda Greenstein (D-Middlesex).

The women's anti-Second Amendment exchange, the audio of which is now on video and uploaded to the Internet, has gone viral on YouTube and has pro-gun advocates enraged.CONFISCATION! NJ Senators CAUGHT Mocking Gun Owners at Committee Meeting | May 9, 2013


Audio captured and brought to attention by NJ2AS members

Loretta Weinberg (D-37), Sandra Cunningham (D-31), and Linda Greenstein (D-14), Nellie Pou (D-35)

What's that you say?! They aren't coming for our guns you say?!

This is INCREDIBLE!

Uploaded on Jun 16, 2011

The North Hollywood shootout was an armed confrontation between two heavily armed bank robbers and officers of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) in the North Hollywood district of Los Angeles on February 28, 1997. Both perpetrators were killed, eleven police officers and seven civilians were injured, and numerous vehicles and other property were damaged or destroyed by the nearly 2,000 rounds of ammunition fired by the perpetrators and the police.
At approximately 9:30 am (UTC-8), Larry Phillips, Jr. and Emil Mătăsăreanu entered and robbed the North Hollywood Bank of America branch. Phillips and Mătăsăreanu were confronted by dozens of LAPD officers when they exited the bank and a shootout between the officers and robbers ensued. The two robbers attempted to flee the scene, Phillips on foot and Mătăsăreanu in their getaway vehicle, while continuing to engage the officers. The shootout continued onto a residential street adjacent to the bank until Phillips was mortally wounded, including by a self-inflicted gunshot wound; Mătăsăreanu was killed by officers three blocks away. In addition to the two perpetrators, eleven officers and seven civilians sustained injuries. Phillips and Mătăsăreanu had robbed several armored vehicles prior to their attempt in North Hollywood and were notorious for their heavy armament, which included automatic rifles.


Local patrol officers at the time were typically armed with 9 mm or .38 Special pistols on their person, with some having a 12-gauge shotgun available in their cars. Phillips and Mătăsăreanu carried fully automatic rifles, with ammunition capable of penetrating police body armor, and wore military grade body armor of their own. Since the police handguns could not penetrate the bank robbers' body armor, the patrol officers' efforts were ineffective. SWAT eventually arrived with weapons that could penetrate and several officers also appropriated AR-15 rifles from a nearby firearms dealer. The incident sparked debate on the appropriate firepower for patrol officers to have available in similar situations in the future. Due to the large number of casualties, rounds fired, weapons used and overall length of the shootout, it is regarded as the longest and bloodiest event in US police history.

They made a movie about the above incident in North Hollywood Bank Robbery called "44Minutes"...
Here are scenes from the movie:



FOR FULL LENGTH MOVIE:





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ATLANTA, GA Aug 9, 2010................
Stupid Robber Shoots Self in Head During Robbery




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Convenience store clerk shoots, kills suspected robber
A would-be robber who walked into Bengal's Food Mart in South Toledo. wearing a wig was shot and killed by a store clerk on Sunday morning
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs....

Suspect exchanged shots with South Toledo shopkeeper
A South Toledo music store owner had hours of recent target-shooting behind him when he shot a man who police said tried to rob his store clerk at gunpoint Friday.
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs....




Uploaded on Dec 27, 2011
Clerk Knocks Out Armed Robber .
When the robber regains consciousness, the clerk then made him clean up his own blood.




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Deerfield convenience store clerk shoots would-be robber




Uploaded on Mar 5, 2011
An elderly California woman uses an antique revolver to confront a late-night intruder. Be sure to stay to the end of the video for one final detail!  Visit www.TheArmedCitizen.com for more!




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Stroud, Oklahoma, December 4, 2009, Donna Jackson shoots and kills a man who tries to break into her home early in the morning. The incident is captured on a 911 call.




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http://www.neuroticy.com/ - Oklahoma media have the compelling story of a shotgun-toting 18-year-old mother who killed an intruder on New Year's Eve after a 911 operator told her, "Do what you have to do to protect your baby."

NBC affiliate KFOR-TV has video of its interview with Sarah McKinley, who was alone with her 3-month-old son in their Blanchard home, MSNBC says. McKinley says two men -- one of whom she had met previously -- appeared at her door Saturday night and then tried to break in. Two days earlier, she had buried her husband, who died of cancer on Christmas Day.

One man -- identified as 24-year-old Justin Martin --- had come by Thursday to express condolences. But Saturday, armed with a foot-long hunting knife, he and his partner attempted to break down McKinley's door. She blocked it with her couch, grabbed her baby and fetched a 12-gauge shotgun and a handgun before calling 911.

McKinley said she asked the dispatcher, "I've got two guns in my hand -- is it OK to shoot him if he comes in this door? I'm here by myself with my infant baby, can I please get a dispatcher out here immediately?"

"I can't tell you that you can do that but you do what you have to do to protect your baby," the dispatcher said.

The 911 conversation lasted for 21 minutes. Then the door gave in.

"I waited till he got in the door. They said I couldn't shoot him until he was inside the house. So I waited until he got in the door and then I shot him," McKinley told KFOR.

Martin, who charged McKinley with his knife, was hit in the "upper torso," police said. He was pronounced dead at the scene. His cohort, Dustin Louis Stewart, 29, fled but later surrendered to authorities.

Blanchard police say McKinley acted in self-defense.

"Oklahoma laws are clear on home defense. I think they're clear to most individuals that you can defend yourself in your home," said Detective Supervisor Dan Huff.
- USA Today




Published on Jun 23, 2012
When seconds count the police are only minutes away.

PHOENIX (CBS5) - Police say a 14-year-old boy shot an intruder who broke into his Phoenix home and pulled a gun on him as he was watching his three younger siblings.

The shooting happened Friday at a home on West Minton near 51st Avenue and Baseline Road in Laveen.

Police Officer James Holmes said Saturday that the teen and three younger siblings, 12, 10 and 8, were at home alone when a woman rang the doorbell Friday. The teen didn't open the door because he didn't recognize her.

Soon after, the teen heard a bang on the door, rushed his siblings upstairs and got a handgun from his parent's bedroom.

When he got to the top of the stairs, he saw a man breaking through the front door and point a gun at him.

The boy shot the 37-year-old man, who is in critical condition but expected to survive and be booked into jail.



Published on Oct 19, 2012
BRYAN COUNTY, Okla. (CBS Houston) — Police say a 12-year-old Oklahoma girl shot a home intruder while hiding in a closet.
According to KTEN-TV, Bryan County authorities say Kendra St. Clair was home alone when 32-year-old Stacey Jones broke into the house.

She called her mom Debra St. Clair after Jones started pounding on the door, eventually kicking it in.
"She said, 'Mom, I think he's going to the back door,' and I said, 'You go get the gun and you get in my closet right now and call 911,'" Debra St.Clair told KTEN.

Kendra St. Clair then shot Jones in the shoulder when he was about to enter the bedroom she was hiding in.
"I was sitting in the closet really scared, holding the gun, not knowing what was going to happen," the young girl told KTEN. "When he turned the door handle I shot towards him with my mom's gun and it hit him in the arm."

Jones immediately ran out of the house but was apprehended not far from the St. Clair residence.

"He was sitting down. The policemen had him apprehended at the end of the block," Debra St. Clair told KWTV. "All I saw was some blood coming down his back."

Jones was taken to Bryan County Jail after being released from the hospital. He is being charged with first-degree burglary.




Indianapolis, Indiana, December 23, 2010 - An Indianapolis man hadn't even opened his Diner before two robbers came in and demanded money on the day before Christmas Eve. When one man reached for something in his pocket, the owner feared for his life and fired. Both suspects fled.




And this news story from March 2013 — an elderly man defended himself and shot and killed a home-invading burglar in Dallas, Texas. The dead man had a lengthy criminal history and had already served at least one stint in prison.

Elderly Man Shoots & Kills Repeat Offender Attempting to Break Into His Home:

Rationale For High Capacity Mags

A man walked into his crowded local bar, waved a revolver around and
yelled  "Who in here has been screwing my wife?"
A voice from the back of the bar yelled back.........
"You're gonna need more ammo!"

Thursday, May 30, 2013, 5:31 PM

Colorado Democrats are very upset that 55 of 62 Colorado sheriffs signed on to a lawsuit to overturn two contentious gun control bills.

So Colorado Democrats accused the sheriffs of siding with criminals.

The Daily Caller reported:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/28/colorado-dems-tweet-that-sheriffs-backing-gun-control-lawsuit-side-with-criminals/#ixzz2Uoivh8ph

Colorado state Senate Democrats claimed on Twitter that most of the state's elected sheriffs are siding with criminals rather than law abiding citizens by joining in a lawsuit to overturn two contentious gun control bills.


The lawsuit, first announced on May 17, has now been joined by 55 of the state's 62 sheriffs and has been supported by others in law enforcement.

There's another reason the Gun control Democrats are upset – many of them are facing possible recall elections.[/b]

http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2013/05/colorado-gun-control-democrats-facing.html#.UaacbknzTgo.twitter

Last Tuesday, June 11th, marks the 34th anniversary of film legend and cinema Western hero John Wayne's death.  Seems only fitting to have a Second Amendment compilation of gun rights/gun control cartoons and memes to honor John Wayne:










The Duke... a proud patriot, gun collector, and conservative... would have liked these:

Via Ammoland:
You've probably already heard about the bizarre, Islamist slaughter of an off-duty British soldier in broad daylight on a busy street in London in May 2013.

The two assailants struck the victim with a car then jumped out and began hacking and slashing him with knives and a meat cleaver. The murderers then strutted around the victim's body for 15 to 20 minutes until armed police arrived, upon which the self-proclaimed jihadists launched an assault on the police and were shot.

Most strange is the way that the attackers waited around after the slaughter, strutting and bragging, but not particularly threatening or attempting to harm any of the onlookers, until armed police units finally arrived, at which point the murderers commenced what could only be characterized as a suicide attack – having brought knives to a gunfight.

Many have asked why the attackers just waited around for the armed police. Why didn't they flee or continues attacking others, as one might expect from a couple of crazed murderers? What were they waiting for?

The answer to that question is very significant. These men were waiting for their tickets to Paradise – and 72 virgins. They engaged in their act of jihad, killing an "infidel aggressor, enemy of Islam," and then waited around for the armed police to show up so they could die in battle for Allah's glory, martyrs, and therefore elected for special rewards in Paradise. [...]

A company in northern Idaho has come up with a culturally sensitive solution. Jihawg Ammo has developed a proprietary system for infusing ballistic paint with pork. The special pork-infused paint is then applied to the bullets of loaded ammunition. The inclusion of pork in the paint makes the bullets haraam, or unclean. Under Islamic law, anyone who comes in contact with any haraam item is then unclean, and must engage in a cleansing ritual. No unclean person can be admitted into Paradise. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 72 virgins.

Background checks reasonable, I think not.

The "most popular" part of the defeated-but-sure-to-come back Senate gun control bill (background checks) sounds like a good idea at first but is more restrictive than anyone anticipated and will have significant unintended
consequences.

There is a huge push to get it through Congress before the public has a chance to consider its contents.

Common activities that we take for granted will become federal crimes.  These are not irresponsible exaggerations.  Please take a moment to review the requirements of the bill.

Here are a few examples of the restrictions in the bill:

EXAMPLE #1

Loaning your buddy a shotgun for a duck hunting trip will be considered a transfer.  If the following requirements are not met, YOU HAVE BOTH COMMITTED A FEDERAL CRIME.

1. He must have already purchased his hunting license

2. Season is already open (and will not close before he returns it)

3. He cannot travel with the firearm through a county where season is not yet open or any area where hunting is prohibited and certainly not across a state line.

He CANNOT stop by your house on the day before season opens, pick up the shot gun, go to the sporting goods store to buy a license and shells then drive out to the hunting lease.  In this scenario, YOU BOTH WOULD HAVE COMMITTED
MULTIPLE FEDERAL CRIMES, YOUR WEAPONS WILL BE FORFEITED AND YOU WILL LOOSE YOUR RIGHT TO BUY OR OWN A FIREARM.

EXAMPLE #2

It appears that only you may relocate your weapons.  If your weapon leaves your home without you, the new legislation considers it a transfer of possession.  ALL transfers require going through a firearms dealer, paying the
transfer fee and a background check for the transferee.

Putting the weapon, even temporarily in someone else's possession, requires a transfer through a dealer.  There is no exception for putting them in a friend's truck while moving to your new house or packing them unloaded,
locked in a gun safe into a moving truck.

Any scenario in which your weapon leaves your home without you is considered a transfer.  Failure to properly transfer the weapon is a federal crime which can result in a prison term AND WILL RESULT IN THE FORFEITURE OF YOUR
WEAPON.

In the scenario above, your buddy's truck was used to commit a federal crime and WILL BE CONFISCATED just like with current Fish and Game violations.

EXAMPLE #3

Infractions as above which involve 2 guns of any type are considered weapons trafficking.  You will be prosecuted under the same federal laws as a terrorist arms dealer.

EXAMPLE #4

Any of the infractions above (or hundreds of other routine scenarios) may result in federal charges, confiscation of ALL your weapons and being prohibited, like all felons, from ever owning a weapon again.

Please read the text of the bill yourself. Most of it is boring legalese but the sections on transfers and trafficking are critical.

Take a minute to think about all the routine activities like those above that will make you a federal criminal and result in prison time plus the confiscation of your weapons and other property.

Included below is Section 122 "Firearms Transfers".

SEC. 122. FIREARMS TRANSFERS.    (a) In General.--Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--            (1) by repealing subsection (s);            (2) by redesignating subsection (t) as subsection (s);            (3) in subsection (s), as redesignated--                    (A) in paragraph (3)(C)(ii), by striking ``(as                 defined in subsection (s)(8))''; and                    (B) by adding at the end the following:            ``(7) In this subsection, the term `chief law enforcement         officer' means the chief of police, the sheriff, or an         equivalent officer or the designee of any such individual.'';         and            (4) by inserting after subsection (s), as redesignated, the         following:    ``(t)(1) Beginning on the date that is 180 days after the date of enactment of the Fix Gun Checks Act of 2013, it shall be unlawful for any person who is not licensed under this chapter to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not licensed under this chapter, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with subsection (s). Upon taking possession of the firearm, the licensee shall comply with all requirements of this chapter as if the licensee were transferring the firearm from the licensee's inventory to the unlicensed transferee.    ``(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--            ``(A) bona fide gifts between spouses, between parents and         their children, between siblings, or between grandparents and         their grandchildren;            ``(B) a transfer made from a decedent's estate, pursuant to         a legal will or the operation of law;            ``(C) a temporary transfer of possession that occurs         between an unlicensed transferor and an unlicensed transferee,         if--                    ``(i) the temporary transfer of possession occurs                 in the home or curtilage of the unlicensed transferor;                    ``(ii) the firearm is not removed from that home or                 curtilage during the temporary transfer; and                    ``(iii) the transfer has a duration of less than 7                 days; and            ``(D) a temporary transfer of possession without transfer         of title made in connection with lawful hunting or sporting         purposes if the transfer occurs--                    ``(i) at a shooting range located in or on premises                 owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization                 organized for conservation purposes or to foster                 proficiency in firearms and the firearm is, at all                 times, kept within the premises of the shooting range;                    ``(ii) at a target firearm shooting competition                 under the auspices of or approved by a State agency or                 nonprofit organization and the firearm is, at all                 times, kept within the premises of the shooting                 competition; or                    ``(iii) while hunting or trapping, if--                            ``(I) the activity is legal in all places                         where the unlicensed transferee possesses the                         firearm;                            ``(II) the temporary transfer of possession                         occurs during the designated hunting season;                         and                            ``(III) the unlicensed transferee holds any                         required license or permit.    ``(3) For purposes of this subsection, the term `transfer'--            ``(A) shall include a sale, gift, loan, return from pawn or         consignment, or other disposition; and            ``(B) shall not include temporary possession of the firearm         for purposes of examination or evaluation by a prospective         transferee while in the presence of the prospective transferee.    ``(4)(A) Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Attorney General may implement this subsection with regulations.    ``(B) Regulations promulgated under this paragraph--            ``(i) shall include a provision setting a maximum fee that         may be charged by licensees for services provided in accordance         with paragraph (1); and            ``(ii) shall include a provision requiring a record of         transaction of any transfer that occurred between an unlicensed         transferor and unlicensed transferee accordance with paragraph         (1).''.    (b) Technical and Conforming Amendments.--            (1) Section 922.--Section 922(y)(2) of title 18, United         States Code, is amended, in the matter preceding subparagraph         (A), by striking ``, (g)(5)(B), and (s)(3)(B)(v)(II)'' and         inserting ``and (g)(5)(B)''.            (2) Section 925a.--Section 925A of title 18, United States         Code, is amended, in the matter preceding paragraph (1), by         striking ``subsection (s) or (t) of section 922'' and inserting         ``section 922(s)''.            (3) NICS improvement amendments act.--Section 103(f) of the         NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 is amended by striking         ``section 922(t)'' and inserting ``section 922(s)''.            (4) Consolidated and further continuing appropriations act,         2012.--Section 511 of title V of division B of the Consolidated         and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2012 (18 U.S.C. 922         note) is amended by striking ``subsection 922(t)'' and         inserting ``section 922(s)'' each place it appears.
Link to complete bill,     
http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/649/text

Read it and call your congressman's office.  Talk to their staff.  Tell them how you feel about this.

Keep in mind, none of the above would have stopped the tragedy's in Columbine or Newtown.  The proposed law makes you a criminal and opens the door for confiscation of your weapons and property for otherwise routine activities.

Think and act.  Congress is hoping that you will do neither.

If you found the patience to read the entire text, you also learned that exactly $100 million per year of your tax money is set aside to enforce these restrictions.

(Well-meaning Chicago citizens carrying guns... and now Democratic officials are worried.  Its a start.  Better yet, bring the troops home from Afghanistan and send them into the ghetto and wipe out those black gangs... no jail time, wipe 'em out!)



CHICAGO (AP) — This city, where violent street gangs shoot it out dozens of times a week despite some of the nation's toughest restrictions on guns, now faces a new challenge: Well-meaning citizens with the legal right to hit the streets with loaded firearms, whenever they want.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FaTr5-B_Es&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7FaTr5-B_Es&has_verified=1

As Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn mulls whether to sign off on eliminating the country's last concealed carry ban, the question in Chicago is whether it will matter in the crime-weary city. Will a place that long had one of the tightest bans on handguns be more at risk? Or will it be safer with a law that can only add to the number of guns already on the street?

Neighborhood leaders, anti-crime activists and police officials worry about additional mayhem in Chicago. But other residents, including some who live in Chicago's more violent areas, believe more guns will allow them to defend themselves better.

"We just had a weekend where something like 48 people were shot, seven died," said Otis McDonald, 79, one of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit that ended with the U.S. Supreme Court tossing out Chicago's strict gun ban three years ago. "Now law abiding citizens like myself ... can carry them when they want to and not carry them when they don't want to, and the people out there who will do us harm won't know when we got them and when we don't."

UCSD Lecturer Brett Stallbaum has released an Android app called Gun Geo Marker to allow people to 'Geolocate Dangerous Guns and Owners.'

According to Slashdot, the app description states: 'The Gun Geo Marker operates very simply, letting parents and community members mark, or geolocate, sites associated with potentially unsafe guns and gun owners.

Description
Geolocate Dangerous Guns and Owners with the Gun Geo Marker. Geolocation means marking dangerous sites on the App's map so that you and others can be aware of the risks in your neighborhood.

The Gun Geo Marker operates very simply, letting parents and community members mark, or geolocate, sites associated with potentially unsafe guns and gun owners. These locations are typically the homes or businesses of suspected unsafe gun owners, but might also be public lands or other locations where guns are not handled safely, or situations where proper rights to own or use any particular type of firearm may not exist. Electronically marking these locations can help others in the area learn about their geography of risk from gun accidents or violence. No matter what your safety concern with firearms might be, you should feel free to use this tool to provide the most accurate information you can such that others can make their own safety decisions.

As a crowd sourced information tool, the information about dangerous gun sites comes from users. Please follow us at http://www.gungeomarker.org, https://twitter.com/gungeomarker and https://www.facebook.com/GunGeoMarker.

Users gave the App a 1.2 average rating on on 1-5 point scale. They are not impressed.

David Jackson, USA TODAY 6:50 a.m. EDT June 18, 2013


The White House says President Obama is close to completing a series of executive actions to address gun violence, but they are not a substitute for congressional legislation.

In a report issued Tuesday, the administration has "completed or made significant progress" on 21 of 23 executive actions that Obama outlined Jan. 16 as part of a major gun-control initiative.

"But Congress must also act," the report says. "Passing common-sense gun safety legislation, including expanding background checks and making gun trafficking a federal crime, remains the single most important step we could take to reduce gun violence."

With Obama in Northern Ireland for the G-8 summit, Vice President Biden will discuss the report in a speech Tuesday afternoon.

The Senate blocked a background check bill in April, thanks mostly to the votes of Republicans. Obama administration officials and Senate Democrats are trying to revive the bill by pressuring senators who voted against it to reconsider.

Gun-control opponents say the proposals are ineffective, and undermine the Second Amendment rights to gun ownership.

The Obama administration began pushing for new gun legislation after the Dec. 14 shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., that killed 20 students and six educators.

The new White House report listed the executive actions on guns taken by the administration.

Among them: Ending a freeze on federal research into the causes of gun violence, reducing barriers that prevent states from submitting certain records to the existing background check system, and easing the ways in which federal law enforcement agencies can trace guns recovered in investigations.

The report did not mention two other legislative proposals backed by gun-control supporters: A new ban on assault weapons, and restrictions on the size of ammunition magazines. Neither proposal has sufficient support in Congress as of yet.

The White House report says the president's executive actions are designed to address several goals, including improvements to the existing background check system, law enforcement, and school safety, as well as promote responsible gun ownership.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/06/18/obama-joe-biden-gun-violence-executive-orders/2432423/

Then-Sen. Obama co-sponsored 'stand your ground' law in 2004 in Illinois


By Cheryl K. Chumley

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The Washington Times

Monday, July 22, 2013


President Obama may currently be calling on the states to review their respective "stand your ground" gun laws, but he wasn't always so opposed to the right-to-carry rule.

In 2004, while a senator in Illinois, he co-sponsored legislation that allowed for the same rights.
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/22/then-sen-obama-co-sponsored-stand-your-ground-law-/

These liberal Clowns will say ANYTHING to shove their anti-constitutional, anti-Second Amendment agenda down Americans' throats.

Democrat House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi is the same loathsome piece of work who has denigrated civilized, law-abiding tea party members for daring to speak out and rally against the federal government's socialist, spendthrift agenda. Yet she and Pres. Obama embraced and applauded the revolting Occupy Wall Street thugs, rapists, vandals, public poopers, and other anarchists and self-entitled brats for opposing the federal government. This week, she helped save Team Obama's invasive NSA phone/Internet snooping program.

Now, Pelosi illogically, idiotically pleads in a press release this past week that Congress must defend and uphold the US Constitution by grossly violating the Second Amendment and passing more gun control laws.


From Ammoland, Pelosi Urges Congress to Uphold Constitution by Passing Gun Control:

Anti-gun U.S. Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) recently urged members of Congress  to uphold their oath to "protect and defend" the Constitution by passing harsher gun control laws.

Yes, Pelosi is proposing that Congress should support the Constitution by radically violating it.  Such is the deconstructionist mindset of modern-day gun-control advocates.

As reported by CNS News, Pelosi made the plea in a press release marking the one-year anniversary of the Aurora, Colorado shootings.

Said Pelosi:  "In Congress, there can be no more fitting memorial to the lives lost in Aurora, in Newtown, and across the country than a concerted effort to enact commonsense gun safety legislation.   We must uphold our oath to 'protect and defend' the constitution and all Americans by expanding background checks and keeping dangerous firearms out of the wrong hands."

As most Americans know, the Constitution was conceived and inherently designed to ensure that the government does NOT attempt to overpower the people with its own agenda or unduly restrict not only the Second Amendment, but any other of our precious, Constitutionally-guaranteed rights.

The CNS News article also noted that the phrase "to protect and defend the Constitution" that Pelosi cited as the reason Congress must enact stricter gun control laws is actually not found in the oath that members of Congress take, but is, instead, a part of the Presidential Oath of Office; a small but significant mistake on Pelosi's part.

From Daily Caller:
When Pelosi took her oath of office, she did so by saying: "I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. [So help me God.]"

Clearly the Constitution and the Second Amendment need support and defense against Pelosi's illogical grandstanding and anti-gun agenda.

By D.S. Woodfill

The Republic | azcentral.com

Thu Aug 8, 2013 10:35 PM

The Maricopa County, AZ. Sheriff's Office has issued semiautomatic AR-15-style rifles to each patrol deputy and implemented a policy requiring the deputies to carry a firearm at all times, even when off duty.

Hours after a Maricopa County jail worker was fatally shot in his front yard Thursday, Sheriff Joe Arpaio stood in front of hundreds of boxes with AR-15 assault rifles for his deputies.

Several rifles, bought with about $500,000 seized under federal RICO laws, were arranged in front of Arpaio's lectern at a news conference he planned the day before Jorge Vargas was shot outside his West Valley home.

Vargas, 27, who was heading to work, was shot at about 4:30a.m. while starting his truck. Phoenix police are handling the investigation, and Arpaio said very little about the investigation.

"It's very sad what happened," Arpaio said. "This unfortunate situation that occurred dovetails somewhat into ... issuing my officers these semiautomatic AR-15 assault rifles."

Arpaio said the rifles will protect deputies when they face suspects with equal firepower. He said one advantage the rifle has over a handgun is that the AR-15 can fire more rounds than a handgun before requiring reloading.

Many police departments in the Valley equip at least some of their officers with AR-15 rifles, including agencies in Tempe, Peoria and Mesa.

Tempe Police Department spokesman Mike Pooley said the rifles are a must as officers encounter criminals armed with assault rifles. He said the infamous 1997 shootout between armed bank robbers in Hollywood and the Los Angeles Police Department was what prompted most departments to purchase assault rifles.

"They (the LAPD) didn't have rifles," he said. "In fact they had to go to a local gun store. They were outgunned."

Pooley said the AR-15 are superior to handguns because they are more accurate at long distances and will pierce most body armor. He said the shooters in Hollywood had body armor and police bullets were bouncing off them.

CNN's Poppy Harlow traveled to Newtown, Connecticut this week to report on the increase in gun sales that community has seen since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School last December. According to the report, Newtown is set to issue double the amount of pistol permits this year as it did in 2012.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-reports-gun-sales-surge-in-newtown-after-shooting/


I thought they buddied up with Obama for gun control? Go figure?

"Ben and I have been married for 1 year, 4 months and 2 days. Ben has just 16.5 hours left here on this earth with me. Sixteen and a half hours of time and we have no idea the end is coming...  The clock is ticking."

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/22453033/crime-victim-turned-gun-advocate-turns-story-into-book

So my friend, Nikki Goeser, begins her story. On April 2, 2009 she and Ben were operating their karaoke business in Jonny's Sports Bar in Nashville, TN. A man stalking Nikki was asked to leave the bar. He pulled a gun and murdered Ben while she watched, helpless, just feet away.

Denied a Chance: 'How Gun Control Helped a Stalker Murder My Husband' is Nikki's recounting of not just the tragic loss of her husband but of her transformation into a powerful and articulate voice for gun rights and advocate for the 2nd Amendment.

Far too many respond to the shooting of innocents in theaters and schools by blaming guns for violence, Nikki places the blame where it really belongs – on the murderers.

She came to understand legislators crafting bad law bear responsibility, too. The gun used to murder Ben was in the bar illegally. Nikki, although a carry permit holder, an Intermediate Handgun Certification holder and experienced gun range volunteer was required by law to leave her handgun in her car. She obeyed the law. The murderer did not.

Nikki can't say with certainty that had she had her handgun she could have stopped Ben's murder. She also knows a bad law denied her the chance to try.

In the aftermath of Ben's murder, dealing with her loss, Nikki kept a journal which became Denied a Chance. She walks us, in poignant detail, through her last day with Ben and the murder itself. She tells the story of the Marine who tackled the murderer and the cop who stayed with her for the longest night of her life.

She tells her story honestly. She sought counseling and dealt with PTSD. Ironically, it was probably this that began her transformation into an activist.

Nashville provides counseling to those affected by violent crime. Nikki didn't think twice about being armed while taking advantage of that program. The counselor felt differently. Nikki was told she was welcome to continue the sessions only if she left her handgun outside. Denied a chance once, Nikki wisely chose not to risk becoming a victim a second time.

Nikki went beyond asking merely "What happened?" to "Why did this happen?" Squarely at the center of the problem was Tennessee state law. She began to correspond with state lawmakers regarding the injustice of her being denied the chance to stop Ben's murder.

Nikki connected with Suzanna Hupp, the woman who watched another lunatic murder her parents and 21 others in a Luby's restaurant while her handgun was locked in her car in accordance with Texas law. Suzanna advised her not to fear standing up for what she believed and assured her such courage would impact others.

Nikki began seeking out like minded people and groups. As her story began to spread, she received offers to speak to various groups and eventually to testify before the legislatures of several states looking at ways to keep their citizens safer. Ultimately she would appear on programs like Nightline, Fox Business with John Stossel, ABC News, CNN, the BBC and other shows. She was awarded the Sybil Ludington Women's Freedom Award by the NRA in 2012.

Thanks to her tireless efforts, Tennessee and other states changed their bad laws and began the process of protecting the law abiding and punishing those who are truly guilty.

Nikki's tale closes with the trial where the law victimized her yet again. Despite the "open and shut" nature of the case, it took 3 years to come to trial thanks to the circus surrounding an insanity plea. Finally, however, some measure of justice was done and Ben's murderer is behind bars for the next 25 years.

Nikki continues her work. She remains a tireless advocate for the rights of Americans to defend themselves in an increasingly violent world. No longer a victim, she has turned her pain into purpose. She will never again be Denied a Chance.

 


Charles W. Cooke at National Review Online found this headdesk moment in the twitter feed of J. David Goodman, the NYPD police reporter for the New York Times. Goodman covered a joint NYPD press conference featuring Mayor Michael Bloomberg today that saw hundreds of guns pointed directly at the audience...


...While we hope that the NYPD had the good sense to clear each and every firearm on display, what they failed to do is as undeniable as it is unforgivable. They clearly left magazines in, with bolts closed, on numerous firearms pointing at the press...


...At least one of the guns picture above, third up from the bottom on the left, clearly has the bolt-closed and the safety off as it points towards the assembled reporters.

I've concluded there are three levels of liberal idiocy:
There's stupid.

There's really stupid.

And there's Bloomberg stupid.

Will a Harvard man listen to Harvard research?

Probably not, if the Harvard man is Barack Obama, and the research finds flies in the face of liberal pieties – and misconceptions and lies – about gun ownership, gun violence and gun control in the United States.

Like the recently reported CDC study about gun violence Obama commissioned himself, the message to gun grabbers is clear:

They're wrong.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/08/18/results-of-obamas-own-cdc-study-on-guns-support-other-side-81812

A study released in the spring in the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy – to virtually no media attention – focused on the prevalence of gun ownership in the United States versus those strict gun-control countries in Europe the left is so fond of talking about.

It was called, with disarming bluntness, "Would banning firearms reduce murder and suicide?"

Its answer was: "No."

Looking at historical patterns in the United States from the colonial and post-colonial days, and in Europe going back to the time before guns were even invented, two researchers came to a clear conclusion:

"Nations with higher gun ownership rates ... do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership."

That's just a fact, even in those European countries the U.S. left is so fond of citing.

Heavily armed Norwegians, where gun ownership is highest in Western Europe, have the continent's lowest homicide rate, researchers Don Kates at the Independent Institute in Oakland and Gary Mauser of Simon Fraser University in Burnaby, British Columbia, wrote.

Russia, where the civilian population was virtually disarmed by the communist government for 80 years, has one of the highest homicide rates in Europe – and one four times higher than in the United States.

In the United States, homicide rates were relatively low, despite periods when firearms were widely available – the colonial era, when Americans were the world's most heavily armed population, the post-Civil War years, when the country was awash in surplus guns and filled with men trained to use them.

Homicide rates in the United States didn't increase dramatically until the 1960s and '70s, which correlated with a rise in gun purchases, but Kates and Mauser point out that fear of crime could just as easily have sparked a rise in gun purchases, rather than more guns causing more crime.

And today?

Communities where gun-ownership rates are highest are where the homicide rates are lowest, Kates and Mauser wrote:

"Where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest, and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest."

That's not what the gun grabbers want to hear.

And the two researchers know it. In their conclusion, they launched a pre-emptive defense, quoting another researcher who found similarly unwelcome (to the left) results when he studied crime in the United States versus gun-restrictive Canada:

"If you are surprised by [our] findings, so [are we]. [We] did not begin this research with any intent to 'exonerate' hand‐ guns, but there it is — a negative finding, to be sure, but a negative finding is nevertheless a positive contribution. It directs us where not to aim public health resources."

The study takes up 45 pages in the journal's spring issue.

But when it comes to gun-grabbers, the whole thing can be summed up in two words:

You're. Wrong.

Jon Lewis Alexander is an Iraq veteran currently working in a liquor store in Marionville, MO. A robber asks for money as he attempts to pull a gun, but Alexander pushes the robber's arm down and draws his own gun. The description below the YouTube video explains that Alexander told the robber to leave before he would "blow his (expletive deleted) head off."

Because no shots were fired and no one was hurt, this incident isn't reflected in the Liberal media gun violence statistics. However, it is proof (once again) that a good guy with a gun is the great equalizer.




Ozarksfirst.com provides more video reports and the following information:
MARIONVILLE, Mo. — A would-be robber gets quite the surprise at a store in Marionville. When he pulled a gun on the clerk, the clerk then pulled his own gun on the man — and it's all caught on camera.

Most of us wouldn't be calm and collected at the barrel end of a gun, but lucky for Jon Alexander, he was prepared.

He was working a typical shift at Beer:30 Liquor Store Sunday night when things got interesting.

"Had a gentleman come in the door there smoking a cigarette and I asked him to take his cigarette back outside," recalls Alexander. "He pulled a gun out from behind him and said, 'you need to give me all your money.'"

But the would-be thief learned quickly he picked the wrong guy — a former military police officer packing heat.

"I pulled my weapon up and told him, 'you need to get out of here before I blow your head off.' Backed right on out the door."

Now two days later, Alexander's bold moves are the talk of Marionville and the store's owners are pleased they hired a security guard and a clerk, all in one.

"I think it's a situation where everybody has to determine what they are capable of handling," says Max Dawson, who has owned the store for two years. "Wouldn't recommend everybody do it. You have to have a little training to be able to do stuff like that."

From the time the man walked through the door, Alexander says the whole exchange was only about 11 seconds.

"You never know exactly what to do," he says. "You just hope you do the right thing."

With 30 years in the military under his belt, Alexander says he is used to high risk and is just glad he was prepared in this situation.

"Any place that deals with a high volume of money is a target. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody does attempt it again down the road."

And if they do, Alexander will be ready.

Colorado Democrats need a new State Senate leader. History was made tonight in Colorado as Democrat Senate Majority Leader John Morse was recalled for abridging Coloradans's Second Amendment civil liberties. The tally is currently 52%-48%. According to Kelly Maher of Revealing Politics, Morse supporters need to "beat us two to one in remaining ballots." Impossible.

It's the first wave of legislative battles planned by citizens angry at state lawmakers who denied them a vote on their Second Amendment rights. As it stands now State Senator Angela Giron is narrowly ahead of her recall.

Morse conceded around 11:30 eastern time. Republican Bernie Herpin was elected to replace him.

UPDATE: Sen. Giron (D) is also RECALLED with over 60% in favor. Amazing what average, everyday Americans can do, in this case a plumber (Victor Head, Pueblo Freedom and Rights) from Pueblo. Pueblo deputy police chief George Rivera was elected to replace her.

Via The Blaze:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/13/texas-mans-pregnant-wife-never-wanted-to-have-a-gun-in-the-house-but-now-shes-sure-glad-he-insisted/

A Texas man's pregnant wife made it clear she was against having a firearm in their house. However, the husband insisted she learn how to use a gun to protect herself just in case. In fact, it was just a few months ago that he took her out to teach her the basics.

On Saturday, she was extremely thankful to have the protection of a gun on her side.

The pregnant woman, identified only as "Alex," told KGBT-TV that she was startled by the sound of a man banging loudly on her front door while another man walked around to the back of her Palmview, Texas, home. Her husband had just left 20 minutes before.

Via Breitbart:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/14/State-Battles-For-Against-Gun-Control-Intensify

Battles for and against gun control continue to intensify in various states around the country. Although Colorado took center stage with the recall of state senator John Morse (D-Colorado Springs) and Angela Giron (D-Pueblo) days ago, gun control is or has been the recent focus in Mississippi, Texas, Missouri, New York, and Connecticut.

The good news for gun owners is that the clear majority of the battles are against gun control.
In Mississippi, House Bill 2 was passed in the last legislative session and signed into law by Governor Phil Bryant (R). This law allows Mississippians to carry a firearm in plain sight for self defense, without a permit. Supporters of this law say it "confirms... the right to keep and bear arms." This law will soon take effect.

Continuing the effort to protect the right to keep and bear arms, CNN reports that Texas refashioned their concealed permit renewal process to make licenses easier and cheaper to renew. Legislators also passed an added discount on concealed carry licenses for military veterans and peace officers. Governor Rick Perry (R) supported both measures.

So four young women entered a local Wal-mart in Marshfield, Missouri for a bite to eat. Missouri is an "open-carry" state. It appears they are also getting their food at Subway inside Wal-mart. Apparently someone called the police to complain about them carrying their firearms. The owner of the restaurant didn't ask them to leave, but lo and behold the cops are on the scene.


What's most concerning about this event is the fact that several officers arrive and the first officer in the video starts asking for identification without even addressing why he needs it, even from a girl without a gun! You'll notice he also does not consider a passport or a weapons permit identification.

He then seems to have a problem with the group videoing him and asks them why they are doing so. Apparently, he thinks he has a right to violate the Fourth Amendment of these girls, but takes issue with their First Amendment, as well as their Second Amendment rights.

The officer is not paying very close attention to IDs either. He looks them over and then asks the girls how old they are.

The officer then asks them to step outside, and once he steps outside discovers a young man walking up to see the girls and asks for his ID! Why does the officer need to see ID? No crime has been committed. In fact, the young man asks him explicitly, "Am I being suspected of something?"

The officer responds like Barney Fife, "I don't know, I just get a call, and that's the reason I'm here."

So he admits he doesn't know if anyone is suspected of anything. This officer needs to understand the Fourth Amendment because he is violating it all over the place. Here, let me help:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The officer, by demanding their identification is violating their rights. Additionally, he has admitted that he doesn't even have probable cause to ask them for their identification.

The young man asks again, "Did I break the law?"

The officer, visibly frustrated, demands the ID, which the young man provides.

Upon providing the identification, the young man asks the officer, "Has the law been broken?"

"I don't know yet," the officer bellows. "That's what I'm trying to determine."

Then others arrived that have been traveling with the group and he wants to see their identification! Seriously, what is this Nazi, Germany?

He then asks about the young man filming him. The young man says that he has a First Amendment Right to do so, to which the officer seeks to demean him by asking him, "Is this what you normally do travel from town to town filming everybody?"

I guess the question would have been best asked in response to the officer, "Is this what you do, demanding IDs from people who haven't broken the law without any probably cause nor citing a reason for demanding identification?"

Then the officer told the young man that a business has the right to refuse them and ask them to leave, which the young man understood and complied with, but apparently, the young girls were never asked to do so.

There was also a follow up video as well, in which Marshfield Police Chief Doug Fannan, who at least carried himself in a more cordial manner than the previous one, attempted to talk about being pro-gun. However, the glaring problem that most people should see what he says is that if someone feels uncomfortable that you are exercising your right to carry your firearm, then you are creating a disturbance of the peace! I'm not kidding. Listen to him say it below.


Additionally, why do law enforcement officers not tell those that feel uncomfortable that they do not have the right to infringe on others' rights because of that? Why do they not educate those who do not understand the law? Could it be because they don't really understand it themselves? Could it be that they don't actually believe in the rights of the people? I'll let you be the judge.

Eventually, the group is released after a discussion of various ordinances.