The commission took up an interesting issue. It seems that during construction of the wind farm, Commissioner Liebau made a private agreement of some sort to allow the contractors to dump a substantial quantity (tons) of rock & excess cement onto his private property. By some means, Mr. Liebau also made preliminary arrangements to have that material crushed so it could be used on county roads (arrangements I don't think you will find vote approved in any earlier commission minutes).
The cost to the county was to be in the neighborhood of $80,000 (about $2 a ton MORE than what we normally pay for road rock). In addition to the crushing expense, the county would have to load the material on our trucks using our own equipment & labor (an added expense we don't normally incur).
Anyway, Commissioner Hendricks indicated she wasn't positive that this material & plan was something she was interested in pursuing. Commissioner Ritz made a motion NOT to crush & haul the material. Ms Hendricks seconded, and the vote was 2 to 1 in favor of the motion not to take the stuff. A financially wise choice by Commissioners Hendricks & Ritz, IMO. And do you know what crushed concrete does to vehicle tires?
Well, both the discussion & vote were, uh, heated?. Just as with the "I am not a (profane explicative deleted) crook" outburst we witnessed last month (though no one had claimed he was a crook), Mr. Liebau was visibly distraught at the vote. He commented angrily, that, "We had a tentative agreement." (about taking the material), and when the Chairperson asked for any opposing vote on the motion made by Mr. Ritz, in a rather loud & agitated voice, Mr. Liebau said, "Hell No!". Liebau then went on to complain that he would just 'get his dozer & push the stuff into the ravine at his own expense'. Say what?
Touchy, touchy. Just wonderin... how could someone agree with a private contractor to dump refuse on their private property without official involvement of the county & then be all bent out of shape when the majority of the county commission would not approve removal of it at taxpayer expense? I imagine Mr. Liebau's intentions were good, but it just didn't work out. All things considered, the whole plan had an appearance of impropriety , in my opinion. There may have been no nefarious, illegal or unethical stuff here, but (given facts & the reaction) it sure didn't pass the smell test.
I don't believe anything has to be illegal to stink.
I believe some ethics and understanding of where the lines are drawn between being a private citizen and a county commissioner is drawn should be understood. And then don't overstep those boundaries which would show ethics and good judgement.
I do believe Elk county needs two new county commissioners.
I think the lines are to terribly blurred, especially with the two Konnected Kounty Kommissioners and that there is a serious problem in the area of using good judgement. Which could cost us all, a lot of wasted money and perhaps already has.
November Elections are just around the corner.
Quote from: Patriot on August 30, 2012, 02:51:18 AM
The commission took up an interesting issue. It seems that during construction of the wind farm, Commissioner Liebau made a private agreement of some sort to allow the contractors to dump a substantial quantity (tons) of rock & excess cement onto his private property. By some means, Mr. Liebau also made preliminary arrangements to have that material crushed so it could be used on county roads (arrangements I don't think you will find vote approved in any earlier commission minutes).
The cost to the county was to be in the neighborhood of $80,000 (about $2 a ton MORE than what we normally pay for road rock). In addition to the crushing expense, the county would have to load the material on our trucks using our own equipment & labor (an added expense we don't normally incur).
Anyway, Commissioner Hendricks indicated she wasn't positive that this material & plan was something she was interested in pursuing. Commissioner Ritz made a motion NOT to crush & haul the material. Ms Hendricks seconded, and the vote was 2 to 1 in favor of the motion not to take the stuff. A financially wise choice by Commissioners Hendricks & Ritz, IMO. And do you know what crushed concrete does to vehicle tires?
Well, both the discussion & vote were, uh, heated?. Just as with the "I am not a (profane explicative deleted) crook" outburst we witnessed last month (though no one had claimed he was a crook), Mr. Liebau was visibly distraught at the vote. He commented angrily, that, "We had a tentative agreement." (about taking the material), and when the Chairperson asked for any opposing vote on the motion made by Mr. Ritz, in a rather loud & agitated voice, Mr. Liebau said, "Hell No!". Liebau then went on to complain that he would just 'get his dozer & push the stuff into the ravine at his own expense'. Say what?
Touchy, touchy. Just wonderin... how could someone agree with a private contractor to dump refuse on their private property without official involvement of the county & then be all bent out of shape when the majority of the county commission would not approve removal of it at taxpayer expense? I imagine Mr. Liebau's intentions were good, but it just didn't work out. All things considered, the whole plan had an appearance of impropriety , in my opinion. There may have been no nefarious, illegal or unethical stuff here, but (given facts & the reaction) it sure didn't pass the smell test.
ROTFLMBO well he jumped out of the frying pan into the fire. Dumbass!
Say, what?
Can't Commissioner Liebau Grandfather it in or something?
Perhaps, he could borrow one of those something different thingy's from Commissioner Hendricks?
Can't twist enough words to get the county taxpayers to pay for it. what a shame?
I wonder what favors Enel did for him in return for taking the debris off THEIR hands. They would have had to haul it elsewhere otherwise. I also wonder what Wildlife and Parks will think about him "shoving it into a ravine". Enel wouldn't have been able to introduce foreign material just anyplace. Aren't ravines part of our watersheds ? ???
Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 30, 2012, 07:56:56 AM
I wonder what favors Enel did for him in return for taking the debris off THEIR hands. They would have had to haul it elsewhere otherwise. I also wonder what Wildlife and Parks will think about him "shoving it into a ravine". Enel wouldn't have been able to introduce foreign material just anyplace. Aren't ravines part of our watersheds ? ???
Pretty much but then again i don't approve of EPA regulations and wouldn't even think about turning him in. its his property and he can do what he wants with it
QuoteI think the lines are to terribly blurred,
And that right there states the whole juxt of this thread.
ready
Quote from: srkruzich on August 30, 2012, 08:22:08 AM
Pretty much but then again i don't approve of EPA regulations and wouldn't even think about turning him in. its his property and he can do what he wants with it
I'm not suggesting anything of the sort. It's just not very professional of a commissioner to spout off such a comment, especially when he should be well aware of the regulations.
Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 31, 2012, 07:28:28 AM
I'm not suggesting anything of the sort. It's just not very professional of a commissioner to spout off such a comment, especially when he should be well aware of the regulations.
I agree. Guess folks need to think of that when november rolls around. It has become apparant that there is a major lack of professionalism inthe government.
You know i met a judge yesterday who could mix professionalism and a kind attitude towards others. He was very helpful to me in my case he was hearing, and when it came time for him to be a judge he became a judge. BUt before and after he was just a kind individual. BUT he was top notch professional all the way when it came time for that!
I WORKED FOR CORNEJO UP THERE HAULING CEMENT ALL CEMENT WE HAD LEFT WE DUMPED AT THE BATCH PLANT AT THE END OF THE JOB WE SENT IT TOO THE QUARRY AT MOLINE NOT SURE WHERE THAT PILE CAME FROM YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT SEEN IT IT S NOT THAT BIG A PILE WE SENT OVER20 LOADS TO QUARRY
Steve: I couldn't agree more about the EPA and them sticking their nose in on a lot of pissant regulations, for lack of a better word, but in this instance I'm glad they were there. Yes I know you all are going to think poorly of me for the sin I am about to admit to: I was in BK's Bar and Grill (!!!!!) and the big talk in there (and at the Mini Mart and at my own drive-in) were the rumors flying around town that the City of Longton was turned into the EPA. Why, you say? From our level headed, know everything city council who decided that it was a good idea to tear down Brighton Hall (because of mold and possibly asbestos) that they deemed would cost too much money to repair. So they had the county excavator tear the building down, then the City of Longton loaded their dump truck and hauled the rubble of this building (boards, rock, brick, cement, plaster, nails, iron, mold and possible asbestos) down to dump in the Elk River, near the citys' dam to fix a spot on the bank that was washing out. I don't assume that anyone had thought that directly across this gigantic river, all of 20 or 25 feet, is the Citys' water intake that leads to the water treatment plant which pumps water to our water tower and feeds directly into our homes. In any case, someone contacted the EPA and as I stated before, this is a rumor because I have heard nothing from the city about it, but was told they were ordered to clean it up. Just how safe is the water? It's always been in question from month to month, especially during a long 2 year drought (but it's always high quality H2O during election time) the water looking and smelling like a septic tank and now we have to worry about whether we're going to get stomach, bladder or intestinal cancer through the stupidity that runs rampant in local government. My opinion and yes I'm pissed off about it. They should have their asses fined (and fired) and more people need to know, that's why I'm throwing it in here. If I'm wrong and the EPA did not come down and everyone in town is a bunch of liars other than City Government, then I hope they will step forward and tell me that the rumors are wrong and I will issue an apology and remove this post. -----Mr. KSHillbilly, concerned citizen
Well i don't consider it a sin. The EPA originally had a mission to protect water. On this issue, like i said concrete isn't going to hurt the water supply. BUT if your dumping building material, and it contains lead, asbestos, all kinds of known toxic materials then someone has to step in and stop it. First of all that area is a public area. Owned by all. Secondly only 2% of the water on this planet is useable by us, and only 1% is drinkable. By far water is our most precious resource above oil above coal above anything on the planet. Cause without water, we die.
I am no eco weenie. BUT i am a proponent that supports keeping our water clean. The biggest offender of pollution of our waterways is Government! One example is the City of Atlanta Ga. FOR YEARS they have been paying the fines imposed by EPA instead of fixing their sewage system. They dump hundreds of thousands of tons of raw sewage into the chattahoochie river every year. Yet they get a free pass by paying a piddling little fine for it. ITs cheaper for them to pay the fine than to fix the problem. Why? IF it were a business, the business would be shut down. BUT since its government they get to operate without any repercussion. Just raise the water rates and pay the fines.
The EPA HAS a place only in certain things. They do not have a place in micro managing every aspect of everyones life. Common sense dictates how we live. IF Your buisness is a feed lot, you don't go operating right next to a waterway. You don't pile up your manure next to the creek or river. THats just plain common sense. You build a berm around your manure piles and let them compost out and then turn them into useable soil to spread. It only takes a year to compost out the material so that it won't nitrate the waterways.
Those folks that dumped that building by the water, need to be fined, pay every dime in clean up out of their assets, and quite frankly serve a possible jail sentence as they have commited a crime. The fella in question about dumping concrete into a ravine, he may have technically committed a crime under epa rules but is it really a crime? DOes the material jeapordize water supply? The last i checked concrete never hurt the water. IN fact most dams and bridges use concrete around the water supply.
BTW i have drank EK water before but i will not drink it now. That has to be some of the nastiest foul smelling water i have ever came into contact with. When your water is yellow you don't drink it. and even after yall got the water piped around the county, i'ves seen cloudy yellow water coming out of the tap. Yuk.
Steve, et al... methinks you've missed the point. This isn't about the EPA, yellow water or manure pits. It really isn't even about one man's intent to shove concrete off into a ravine on private property....
Quote from: Patriot on August 30, 2012, 02:51:18 AM
Just wonderin... how could someone agree with a private contractor to dump refuse on their private property without official involvement of the county & then be all bent out of shape when the majority of the county commission would not approve removal of it at taxpayer expense? I imagine Mr. Liebau's intentions were good, but it just didn't work out. All things considered, the whole plan had an appearance of impropriety , in my opinion. There may have been no nefarious, illegal or unethical stuff here, but (given facts & the reaction) it sure didn't pass the smell test.
Doesn't pass the fiduciary responsibility test either, IMHO.
This is for steve -
I'm not sure what you meant by "I have drank EK water" but not all water that is distributed in Elk County is the same water. Howard still produces their own water with Polk Daniels lake being the source. They supply the 'new' rural water district (Elk County RWD #2) that serves the NE and NW areas of the county. The 'old' rural water along and about four miles either way from K-99 north of Howard is actually Greenwood County RWD #1 that comes out of Eureka.
Longton still produces its own water, sourced out of the Elk River. They will eventually be connected to Public Wholesale Water Supply District No. 20, as an extention of the mains for Chautauqua County RWD #4 when it gets built in NE Chautauqua County. This wholesale water comes from the treatment plant on Quivira Rd, east of K-99 that draws from the Boy Scout Lake.
Moline and Grenola no longer run water treatment plants. They and Elk County RWD #1, that serves the south half of Elk County and into Chautauqua County a bit, are supplied by the aforementioned PWWSD No. 20.
Hope this clears up any misconceptions about where treated water in Elk County comes from and stops generalizations like "even after yall got the water piped around the county, i'ves seen cloudy yellow water coming out of the tap. Yuk."
Flin T. Auqua
MR hillbilly not fisrt time junk been dumped in Elk River the howard co. shop dumped barrels back in thelate 80s early 90s in the same spot that washed out by LIZ"S new house , some of it they did'nt know what it was
If I'm wrong and the EPA did not come down and everyone in town is a bunch of liars other than City Government, then I hope they will step forward and tell me that the rumors are wrong and I will issue an apology and remove this post. -----Mr. KSHillbilly, concerned citizen
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Well mr ignorant...where were ya at at last nights meeting since you are so concerned...were ya at the bar gettin drunk and runnin your mouth again..or serving up shit at the hole in the wall....carefull ya dont shit where ya eat......back to my point where were ya with your video camera...i too heard the rumors and was very concerned so i went..and i found out that......wait a minute..if you are as worried about it as you say you are why dont you find out for your self...and by the way you owe them an apology...and the reason it was tore down was it was unsafe due to mold and strucural stability..not asbestos..before you go runnin your mouth get your facts right you twit...geeez.....and i apologise to the other forum members for my attack on mr dumbass..but it is time to act opon his accusations...i take great offence to his words
Quote from: i can hide 2 cowards on September 12, 2012, 11:51:53 AM
Well mr ignorant...where were ya at at last nights meeting since you are so concerned...were ya at the bar gettin drunk and runnin your mouth again..or serving up shit at the hole in the wall....carefull ya dont shit where ya eat......back to my point where were ya with your video camera...i too heard the rumors and was very concerned so i went..and i found out that......wait a minute..if you are as worried about it as you say you are why dont you find out for your self...and by the way you owe them an apology...and the reason it was tore down was it was unsafe due to mold and strucural stability..not asbestos..before you go runnin your mouth get your facts right you twit...geeez.....and i apologise to the other forum members for my attack on mr dumbass..but it is time to act opon his accusations...i take great offence to his words
You offence (sp) is obvious... but, wow, what a vulgar first post. Just sayin.
what you call vulgarity ..is what i call the truth
..sorry you cant handle it ..most people cant
Quote from: i can hide 2 cowards on September 12, 2012, 11:51:53 AM
Well mr ignorant...where were ya at at last nights meeting since you are so concerned...were ya at the bar gettin drunk and runnin your mouth again..or serving up shit at the hole in the wall....carefull ya dont shit where ya eat......back to my point where were ya with your video camera...i too heard the rumors and was very concerned so i went..and i found out that......wait a minute..if you are as worried about it as you say you are why dont you find out for your self...and by the way you owe them an apology...and the reason it was tore down was it was unsafe due to mold and strucural stability..not asbestos..before you go runnin your mouth get your facts right you twit...geeez.....and i apologise to the other forum members for my attack on mr dumbass..but it is time to act opon his accusations...i take great offence to his words
To Whichever City Council Member I Have Upset: I stated mostly truth into the RUMORS that were going around town. Apparently all, except one small part, was true. The part in question: the asbestos. Mr. or Mrs. City Councilmember (i'm gonna go with MR.) if you would've been to ANY city council meeting prior to you being APPOINTED office and before you even MOVED here, you would've known that there were questions and concerns on whether there was asbestos in Brighton Hall. Point being, I still LOVE how the City Council looks out for the welfare of the citizens of Longton by dumping debris and rubble adjacent to the water intake that supplies the homes of Longton with drinking water. Not the brightest choice. Have you EVER heard of the Kansas Open Meetings Act??? I can take a tape recorder or a video camera into your little meetings and record to my hearts' content! That is MY right within the law, so maybe you all should make sure you are acting WITHIN the law when I'm doing so! It's hard to hide from the truth when you're on video! With that being said, I suppose that what pisses you off the most is that everyone knows the ignorance that is abound in at least one chair at city hall. I hope that the money it cost to haul the debris down there, dump it and now clean up and dispose of it doesn't bankrupt the City of Longton who never checked into the legalities of said dumping in the first place. Seeing you know EXACTLY where my little drive-in is located, my house is located and that I go to BK's Bar and Grill, I'm not hiding. Why are you? Are you letting your big mouth overload your grease monkey ass? I hope MY house don't catch fire; I doubt the fire department would show up. Yours Sincerely, Mr. Robert L. Walker, aka KSHILLBILLYS
I wouldn't doubt that it would happen There Mr hillbilly. But i suspect your like i am, if someone does something like that they are guaranteed to be caught! Nothing like those wireless mini cams to put around your properties.
Brighton Hall was torn down not so much because of mold, but because it was unsafe due to the roof. The cost to repair the roof was extensive enough to warrant moving the city hall to a different location. As to the water in Longton: the dumping of the debris from Brighton Hall would not affect the drinking water if the water plant is operated correctly. There is and always has been nasty stuff in Elk River, ie dead animals, run off from chemical spraying, livestock urine and feces, etc. Your water certainly shouldn't be smelling and tasting like sewer water. If the epa did come down on Longton it was more than likely because of the possible harm to flora and fauna in the river. There are many water plants that take the sewer water and run it through their water treatment plant for drinking water. So, any fears that the debris dumping is harming your drinking water is pretty much unfounded. I would look somewhere else for the cause of your poor drinking water.
Thanks for the info Sarge. I went down and looked at where the chunks of cement were dumped, to help with erosion of the river bank by the dam. The cement chunks are 50-100 yards below where water is taken out of the river so unless the water runs up stream it shouldn't effect our water source. I guess down river would be a totally different story.
Robert, I wonder if something might be wrong with the waterline leading to your place because the water here has been fine. I have no answers to why your water tastes so bad but yet it is OK here at my house
Being one ,that in my lifetime, has spent more time in the river than most would in 200 years, I can tell you I have seen stuff in the river that would gag a maggot. Now before someone asks why I spent countless hours in the river----I was patrolling the waters to make sure there was no illegal fishing, like noodling, going on.
Quote from: jarhead on September 12, 2012, 07:19:08 PM
---I was patrolling the waters to make sure there was no illegal fishing, like noodling, going on.
What did ya catch... besides a cold. lol
Caught a case of VD, then found out a Flyboy was swimming up river---smart ass !!
You leave the flyboys alone- grunt!
Quote from: Sarge on September 12, 2012, 08:03:04 PM
You leave the flyboys alone- grunt!
Chalk it up to the head injury he received when pulling his boat
out of the river.
Jar, I tried to help you. I told you to stay in that bunker! By the way I'm about ready for another long trip. More chrome diopside, you know. ;D
Well it seems that I can hide 2 does not want to be known as they were a guest on here. Who ever did report the city thought that they were doing it as a safety measure for the people of Longton. As for kshillbilly not being at the meeting he does have a business to run. If you have never eaten at the Drive In then you have no right to question how the food is. So before you put you foot in your mouth you might want to try the food first. It is a nice place the food is good and anyone that says different should stop and try it first. Some people can be so mean and nasty on here and some of you do know who I'm talking about.
I can hide 2 you need to grow up and think before you leap. Do you really know all of the facts?
Quote from: rosewolf on September 13, 2012, 07:14:02 AM
As for kshillbilly not being at the meeting he does have a business to run. If you have never eaten at the Drive In then you have no right to question how the food is.
I can hide 2 you need to grow up and think before you leap. Do you really know all of the facts?
I agree with you Rosewolf. I don't get over that way often, but when I do if I even have a ting of hunger I stop for a bite to eat. I have had some really good hamburgers at their place. I aslo enjoyed visiting with the cook, they are my kind of friendly personable people.
I don't understand the negative attitude by some people.
Sounds like someone just wants to damage Elk County's economy.
I'd prefer to support our economy by stopping in Longton for a good hamburger, rather then stopping at McDonalds in Independence.
It's not easy to run a business in Elk County because of the limited population so bad mouthing the business without knowledge is just wrong.
I don't suppose it could be a competitor, if it were discovered that is what is going on, I would think that would be bad for their business as well, IMHO.
Times are bad but, do we need to make them worse in this manner?
I'll be in Longton this evening and will be stopping in and picking up a couple of hamgurgers and I haven't decided what else.
Mr Hillbilly, you might check the anode rod in your water heater, if the heater has sat unused for a while it can produce some real foul smelling water. Flushing it out might help. ;)
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Jar, I tried to help you. I told you to stay in that bunker! By the way I'm about ready for another long trip. More chrome diopside, you know.
I took your advice, Guns. I am in the bunker using wireless internet. When you get back come to my bunker and show me your new gems but make damn sure you use the right password. What---you don't know the password ? Ask your good sister---she knows it :angel:
Quote from: kshillbillys on September 12, 2012, 04:48:20 PM
I hope MY house don't catch fire; I doubt the fire department would show up. Yours Sincerely, Mr. Robert L. Walker, aka KSHILLBILLYS
I can personally assure you, Mr. Walker, that the Longton Volunteer Fire Department will respond to your house and preform our duties to the best of our ability no matter what. Please leave us out of this. Thank you.
Kimber Dupuis, Assistant Chief, Longton Volunteer Fire Department.
I also will back the Lfd in saying that if that were to happen that we would do every thing in our power to help and save you and your property , so please leave the Lfd out of your post. thank you.
With that beeing said I have been contacted by a person accusing me of posting as "I can hide 2" I assure you Mr. Walker if I have an issue I will tell you in person. And I have read the post made, and I have ate at your burger joint, it was good food and as well as the service.
Thank you
Jason Clatt
Quote from: ghost on September 13, 2012, 01:49:19 PM
I can personally assure you, Mr. Walker, that the Longton Volunteer Fire Department will respond to your house and preform our duties to the best of our ability no matter what. Please leave us out of this. Thank you.
Kimber Dupuis, Assistant Chief, Longton Volunteer Fire Department.
Kimber, of course you would after all you are a firefighter.
"When I'm called to duty god
wherever flames may rage
give me strength to save a life
whatever be its age
Help me to embrace a little child
before it is too late
or save an older person from
the horror of that fate
Enable me to be alert
to hear the weakest shout
and quickly and efficiently
to put the fire out
I want to fill my calling and
to give the best in me
to guard my neighbour and
protect his property
And if according to your will
I have to lose my life
bless with your protecting hand
my children and my [spouse]"
Author Unknown
Thanks for what you and the rest of the volunteer firefighters do, you a very special breed.
Fire Elk
I know that by law you are obligated to respond to a fire in a timely manner.
Mr. City Council Member: Even though, you used the I Can Hide 2 Cowards moniker, your IP address does NOT hide. If you were half as intelligent as you think you are, then you would understand the definition of libel.
libel (ˈlaɪb ə l)
— n
1.
law
a.the publication of defamatory matter in permanent form, as by a written or printed statement, picture, etc.
b.the act of publishing such matter
2.
any defamatory or unflattering representation or statement
3.
ecclesiastical law a claimant's written statement of claim
4.
Scots law the formal statement of a charge
— vb , -bels , -belling , -belled , -bels , -beling , -beled
5.
law to make or publish a defamatory statement or representation about (a person)
6.
to misrepresent injuriously
The county road department is subject to criticism by the public. The sheriff's department is subject to criticism by the public. Local city government is also subject to criticism by the public. And the fire department is no exception either. On your advice, Mr. City Council Member, I did contact the Kansas Department of Health and Environment in Topeka, today. I spoke with Mr. Mike Tate. He referred me to the Chanute Office and I spoke to Richard Phomes who said that he did not work on the report for Longton but another man out of the office named West, who was not in today but will be tomorrow. I asked Mr. Phomes if any action had been taken. Mr. West had directed that it be cleaned up and informed me that the bricks, sandrock and cement usually have no problem as a fill, but failure on the city's part to even request if they could do so, resulted in the clean up. Mr. Mike Tate will be contacting me again tomorrow to email me a copy of the report under the Kansas Open Records Act. So I guess, Sarge, the EPA was not down there over bugs in the water. The rumors in fact are true and founded. And the debris that was put in there started below the dam and was going to end up above the dam where the entire bank was sliding into the river. There is proof on camera that that is exactly what they were going to do. The same camera that I can use under the Kansas Open Meetings Act. Are there any more lies from your part, Mr. City Council Member? Nice that you're backstepping now.---Mr. Robert L. Walker
P.S. There's nothing wrong with my water lines or hot water tank as they were brand new almost 2 years ago. And why is it if it is such high quality H2O that the city fails state standards every couple of months?
Quote from: kshillbillys on September 13, 2012, 05:41:03 PM
P.S. There's nothing wrong with my water lines or hot water tank as they were brand new almost 2 years ago. And why is it if it is such high quality H2O that the city fails state standards every couple of months?
IS this the same water that failed the epa tests? I saw a letter the other day stating that the water is contaminated above the maximum the government allows and that they were trying to get it in compliance. IN fact the letter stated it failed 3 times in the last year or so.
Can't remember what it is contaminated with.
Quote from: srkruzich on September 13, 2012, 05:58:31 PM
Can't remember what it is contaminated with.
Probably disinfectant by products. This is a standard that the epa started a few years ago. Folks have been drinking water with disinfectant by products since water was first disinfected. Disinfectant by products are largely the dead bodies of the pathogens that have been killed by the disinfectant. Personally I feel it is a way to rid small towns of their water plants, being forced to combine several small towns to one big water plant.
KS Hillbilly, when you get the report would you post what the offending material was? Or you could call me and tell me. I would be interested to know what exactly was dumped to cause a concern for drinking water safety. I would think it would have to be something of a chemical nature rather than bacterial. Thanks.
Ross I enjoy visiting with you as well. It was nice to see you and hope that you enjoyed the burger. Hope to see you again soon.
I've been getting notifications that the water failed to pass guidelines for about 12 years now. As Sarge said, it is a byproduct of the disinfectant chemicals. Most notices cite there are too high a level of nitrohalenes,( not sure of the spelling). The last notice said they are trying something new. They all have claimed the water safe, unless you have kidney or liver problems,etc.
The only time I've seen ours nasty is when the lake turns and algae blooms.