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Hi my name is James C. Lear Sr. I'm running for Elk County Sheriff on the Republican ticket. I'm 49 years old, I have lived in Howard for several years. My experience is 28 years in law enforcement, security and military combined. I also have experience in several other safety fields. Honorably discharged from the United States Air Force. I'm married and have five children. If you have any further questions you can email me at jamesclearsr@gmail.com and I will be happy to answer them for you. You can also find me on Facebook. If you would like to meet me in person and set down and talk. You can come by my house I live at 746 E. Jefferson St. Howard. I look forward to meeting people and addressing any concerns you might have.

         Thank You
         James C. Lear Sr.
         James C. Lear Sr. Sheriff Candidate

thank you for the introduction and good luck

I will be stopping by sometime as I have never met you. I talked to your son, James, today. I know your three kids, Holly, Michael, and James. Hope to be seeing you soon.

I also hope you get out and meet people. One person has given me a little run down on you which was positive. Yeah.

     Perhaps you might tell us what you feel needs to be done differently, or what you would change for the better, Mr Lear.

    BTW, Facebook is not a place you will find many voters. Unless you are a proponent of "big brother" watching you.

    Your resume is one thing, your opinions are another, let us have both.

@ Bullwinkle,  Facebook? What are you talking about?

     If you don't mind sharing your'e personal information with the government, or for that matter, the entire internet, then go ahead and use Facebook. Identity theft is easy enough for those savy at getting your info, without making it easy for them. ;)

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 05, 2012, 08:22:31 AM
     If you don't mind sharing your'e personal information with the government, or for that matter, the entire internet, then go ahead and use Facebook. Identity theft is easy enough for those savy at getting your info, without making it easy for them. ;)

Seriously?? Facebook is only a small spec on Big Brother"s watch list.. You are monitored by everything you do and say on your phone and anything and everything you write anywhere on any type of internet mechanism. I pretty much have the attitude that if they want to follow me around.. in what ever fashion that trips their trigger... then get after it!! Whether you like it or not..They're doing it!  If you think you're not being monitored because you don't use Facebook... you are sadly mistaken.
Facebook is HUGE!! It reaches out personally to more people in a day than anyone ever thought that a source such as that could. The way you use it is of course up to the individual, but it is an excellent source for PR and getting what you want out.

I am like Ms. T. If they want to follow me, go ahead. And as for Identify Theft, maybe someone would steal my bills and pay them for me. LOL

      Yes seriously, Facebook. Yes, it is Huge, the reason for my opinion. Small speck for big brother? I think also Huge, along with Twitter. Sure there are other vehicles, such as your Kroger card or Best Buy reward card, and being on this forum or any browser, but the information is more limited, and there is software to encrypt what you write, get rid of cookies, etc.

     My point was, "Why make it easy for them ? "  Believe me, they won't pay your bills for you, just systematically drain your bank account if you aren't paying attention, and run up your credit cards. Sure, most of the time the banks will void unauthorized transactions, but you have to go through the hassle of getting it done.

     I also feel that Facebook is a "flash in the pan" , ( that's right under the frizzen) and will fizzle out anyway. If you own stock, I'd suggest selling it. Just sayin.

     Now, back to the thread, I'd like Mr. Lear to comment on what he feels needs change ( if any ) and what he would do differently, those kind of things. Not just a resume. ;)

And it's been 4 days, and Mr Lear hasn't posted anything to the very Forum that could get him elected.
Hmmmmmmphffff!  Guess this forum isn't as Classy as Facebook, MyFace or Twittle! 
That reminds me....I need to tinkle....do you all have an App for that?

ready....running...with crossed legs

Mr. Lear is out of town visiting family so he might not be able to post on here for a few days. Also all social networking sites are just another tool for reaching voters. After analyzing all different types of media and the people that use it, the findings are conclusive that to reach all ages of voters than one has to be open to all avenues. Plus if you are worried about big brother watching your every move, you should probably just go off the grid completely with no phone, computer or even a car. If you really think big brother is worried about littly timmy going swimmy tomorrow and asking his friends who want to go on facebook than our government has spend too much time checking this stuff on facebook than worrying about high unemployment and the growing deficit.

      The only worry I have is WHAT THE YELL DOES THIS YOKEL HAVE TO OFFER ? 

     If you are his spokesperson , then you need to learn a little about communication, ( or lack of ).

Hey, he doesn't have to campaign until after the primary.  What's the hurry?  If you are so anxious to hear from him, why don't you go call on him?  Isn't it possible that we will be getting tired of the signs that are already out for a candidate that doesn't have any competition in the primary?

Yokel ?? Kinda harsh words for someone you profess to no knowing. I wouldn't think that someone who lives so far away would have so much interest anyway in a "Yokel County" election.

I am not his spokesperson but I have talked to Mr. Lear and I like him. He is a conservative republican, a very decent and well mannered person, and he has experience in the law enforcement. If people are wanting to know more about him than they should call him up and send an invitation to sit down and talk to the man. Mr. Lear has also talked at numerous functions in quite a few different cities. I feel if you are happy with your current situation than don't change a thing but if you feel that there should be some differences and in all the years that the current sheriff has been in office and hasn't improved on a thing, than give Mr. Lear your vote.

     No hurry. Just figured since he joined the forum that he might tell a little more.

    Sorry for using the yokel word, Jarhead. I just think we're all yokels on this bus. What makes you think I'm so far away?

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 13, 2012, 07:08:02 AM
     No hurry. Just figured since he joined the forum that he might tell a little more.

    Sorry for using the yokel word, Jarhead. I just think we're all yokels on this bus. What makes you think I'm so far away?

I really don't care where you live, Mr./Ms. Bullwinkle and I don't care who you are. I do care that you think everybody on this forum is a "yokel". I am not a "yokel" and you can use that derogatory term in reference to yourself and not to those of us on this forum. No one on this forum is naive or a gullible inhabitant of this area.

Definition of yokel
     
yo·kel
noun \ˈyō-kəl\

Definition of YOKEL

: a naive or gullible inhabitant of a rural area or small town

Examples of YOKEL

<a lame comedy about the misadventures of yokels in the big city>

Origin of YOKEL

perhaps from English dialect yokel green woodpecker, of imitative origin
First Known Use: circa 1812

Related to YOKEL

Synonyms: bumpkin, chawbacon, churl, clodhopper, cornball, countryman, hayseed, hillbilly, provincial, rube, rustic, hick

Antonyms: cosmopolitan, cosmopolite, sophisticate


Rhymes with YOKEL

focal, local, socle, vocal

    Back to the thread, I don't think face to face  meetings are quite as good as someone putting their thoughts, ideas, reasons for running for an office right here in a public forum. What goes on behind closed doors may differ. To risk being called a "Ross" , I think this is the perfect place to express what your agenda is. I don't take the term Yokel ,(Obviously ) the same as others. I don't have a problem with it , after traveling the country, I actually take it as a term of pride, that I am" country".

Being called "country" and being called a "yokel" are two totally different. "Yokel" = "naive" "country" = "location, area, land, hick, hillbilly"

I am not naive and I don't believe that anyone else on this forum is either.

Quote[I don't think face to face  meetings are quite as good as someone putting their thoughts, ideas, reasons for running for an office right here in a public forum. What goes on behind closed doors may differ. To risk being called a "Ross" , I think /quote]

Whoa! there pardner!......Face to face is the only way we know how the person is saying what he/she is meaning.  The forum strips all inflection, intonation and personability away from the thought.

What goes on behind closed doors only applies to copulation, Commissioner's sessions, and Vegas (Mafia not excluded)

Tread lightly  there Winky!
ready

Pardon my writing in all purple...I seem to have not posted for a while.

Janet,
Some people think that because they drove their uncle's truck on a gravel road, when they were a pup, or perhaps they spent most of their life glued to the boob tube watching re-runs of Green Areas ---and that makes them "country" ;)

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 13, 2012, 06:30:03 PM
To risk being called a "Ross" ,

Hey knock that off Bullwinkle! LOL

Ain't nobody else can be a Ross, there is only one, not even my twin brother comes close. LOL
Oop's you didn't know there were two of me. Well, we are as different as day and night.
Sometimes that is a bummer, we can't pass off as each other. Which would be lots of laughs.

I have spoke personally with Mr. Lear and I find him quite personable, but that's all I can say about him.
I think you might enjoy a one on one with him. And I believe Ready to be right, when talking with someone
on a face to face basis you can read a lot by observing.

I have know one of his sons for several years and I can definitely say he is a fine young man who graduated from West Elk and is going to college. Now I hope i haven't overstepped any boundaries by providing that little bit of information. If I have I apologize.

I will also state, that I have made no decisions, who I may vote for in any of the races. I reserve that until the last minute, because anything can happen to change my mind. When I place the "X" that will be my decision and I will keep that to my self as well.

Have a good night.

   Thanks, Ross and Ready, I agree a face to face let's you see the sincerity of the persons conversation. I just thought we could get a few of his ideas about changing or not changing the way things are now.

   It may come as a shock, Jarhead, but the town I grew up in didn't even have a "downtown", was smaller than Moline by far, and surrounded by wheat fields. I drove my uncles tractor , by the way, and I still use it today.  ;)

   I didn't mean to start a dictionary war, Janet. Just as there are many interpretations of words in the books, so it seems my feelings about the word differ from yours. Several places I've been outside of Kansas, people have called me hick or hillbilly, clodhopper or countryboy, just for my clothes and speech. The one thing I took offense to was being called an " Okie " LOL   ;D

I find that funny, Bullwinkle. Most people call me Janet, no yokel, country, etc. I just took offense to you saying we were a bunch of yokels which means naive, which we are not. Carry on if you please.

James C. Lear Sr

Question are you a certified Kansas law enforcement officer.

Mr. Lear does not have to be a Kansas certified law enforcement officer to run for sheriff. Here is the Kansas Statute that tells one what is required to be sheriff.

19-801b: Qualifications for office; attendance at law enforcement center required; exception; status and salary while in attendance. (a) No person shall be eligible for nomination, election or appointment to the office of sheriff unless such person:
       (1)   Is a citizen of the United States and a qualified elector of the county;

      (2)   possesses a high-school education or its recognized equivalent; and

      (3)   has never been convicted of or pleaded guilty or entered a plea of nolo contendere to any felony charge, a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence as defined in K.S.A. 74-5602 and amendments thereto or to any violation of any federal or state laws or city ordinances relating to gambling, liquor or narcotics.

      (b)   Every person elected to the office of sheriff for the first time, or anyone reelected or appointed to the office after having been out of the office for five years or more shall be required to attend the law enforcement training center as established by K.S.A. 74-5601 et seq., and amendments thereto, and satisfactorily complete the required training course of not less than 320 hours, unless such person has satisfactorily completed such training course within the five years prior to election or appointment, passes a written competency test and firearms proficiency qualification course developed and administered by the Kansas law enforcement training center or unless the director, as defined in subsection (d) of K.S.A. 74-5602, and amendments thereto, waives the requirements of this subsection as provided in K.S.A. 74-5608a and amendments thereto. Unless the requirements are waived, any person elected or appointed to the office of sheriff who has not attended the law enforcement training center shall hold office on a provisional basis, and such person shall attend the next scheduled training program at the law enforcement training center and satisfactorily complete such training program or the one subsequent to it, or shall forfeit such office.

      (c)   Each newly elected sheriff of each county who is required to attend the law enforcement training center shall be hired as a deputy sheriff and shall be paid a salary as deputy sheriff while attending the law enforcement training center. The tuition, board, room and travel expense for the sheriff-elect at the law enforcement training center shall be paid by the county.

      History:   L. 1972, ch. 75, § 2; L. 1974, ch. 114, § 1; L. 1975, ch. 157, § 1; L. 1977, ch. 89, § 1; L. 1982, ch. 322, § 1; L. 1983, ch. 93, § 1; L. 1995, ch. 180, § 5; L. 1997, ch. 168, § 1; May 22.

The training comes after he has been elected and takes office. When and if he gets elected, he will be attend the sheriff's school for 2 weeks which usually happens the last part of November or first part of Dec. That is a two week school. After that, as soon as he takes office, he will have to register to attend the very next available class to be a certified law enforcement officer.

I am sure that Mr. Lear will answer your question soon. I just wanted you to know that whoever is running for sheriff does not have to be a certified law enforcement officer to run for the office of sheriff.

Janet,
You telling me that all those minor infractions for "take or attempt to take fish by hand" would not of disqualified me from running against you for Sheriff ? You picked a fine time to tell me , Lucille !!!
Maybe I should get another oil less compressor for diving just to see if you would try and put the sneak on me for shocking fish . ;D

Quote from: jarhead on July 18, 2012, 04:39:29 PM
Janet,
You telling me that all those minor infractions for "take or attempt to take fish by hand" would not of disqualified me from running against you for Sheriff ? You picked a fine time to tell me , Lucille !!!
Maybe I should get another oil less compressor for diving just to see if you would try and put the sneak on me for shocking fish . ;D

Speaking of shocking fish... if you could get elected as sheriff, jarhead, you could shock those fish with your shiny, new, taxpayer provided taser!   And I bet you could spend some taxpayer funds for a new compressor too.  Heck, it's just money. ;D

Now, jarhead, you know it wasn't me that put the sneak on you. I don't like water, so you don't have to worry about me. LOL And, yes, you could have ran for sheriff. Why didn't you? LOL

If he had run for Sheriff and won it might have affected his fishing time.  Can't have that.

You can believe that Janet doesn't like water, but I am not going to tell you why.  You might ask her about the time that the canoe that she was in capsized.

Quote from Janet :
Now, jarhead, you know it wasn't me that put the sneak on you

WHAT ? Is your cheese sliding off it's cracker ? I distinctly remember you peeking out from behind a tree---hand on that hog-leg just in case I jumped them two wardens. I did notice though that you didn't get close to the water. Bill & Tiny helped carry my boat and compressor up the bank while you stood watched so guess I should thank you because we damn sure didn't get jumped by any  hobgoblins. :D

Patriot, A taser will bring fish up ? How you know that ? Never mind !! We'll discuss it over a cold beer---in private.
Ms Bear,
Nothing, I mean nothing ,will get in the way of my fishing---except this triple digit heat---and lack of water to even fish in.

Quote from: jarhead on July 18, 2012, 09:32:13 PM
Patriot, A taser will bring fish up ? How you know that ? Never mind !! We'll discuss it over a cold beer---in private.

Just like earthworms in good dirt, ole buddy.  But let's do the beer thang, you'll need it to hear the 'rest' of the story.  lol

Jarhead, I do remember that now. What can I say? I guess I was backup in case you got out of hand. LOL

       Question:  Who pays for sending this person for training if he is elected ?

 I think you will find the answer in Janet's reply # 26

Yes, like jarhead said, the answer is in my post.

Pardon my butting in here, but the question was asked in post #25 whether Mr. Lear was a certified Kansas law enforcement officer, but I don't recall there ever being a definite yes or no answer provided.  Shouldn't that be established before getting too far along on who pays for the training if he isn't?

I think you will find that answer in Janet's post #26, 1:b & c.  A newly elected sheriff for the first time has to take the training and c says that the county pays for it.  I need to go back and check what I read.  It has been more than 30 seconds since I read it.

      Sorry, I missed that tidbit.  :-[ Sounds more like an apprenticeship. I'm guessing this is quite common. Good thing about the Forum, you learn things all the time. ;D

    OK, next question, who minds the store when said trainee is off at school ? A deputy? I guess Andy did leave Barney in charge once in a while.  Mr Durbin's question is certainly more pertinent however.

Quotewhether Mr. Lear was a certified Kansas law enforcement officer

I interpreted that to ask is he now, and if he is not, do you as taxpayers want to send him through training.
My question to Janet, as she has been in this position:  Is it better, or more advantageous to have someone in that position that has a background in the field, or is it better to start off with no preconceived idead?
  Would be interesting to hear from Mr. Lear himself?????!!!!

ready

The undersheriff is usually in charge while the sheriff is taking his training.  However, there is the time between his election and actually taking office that the old sheriff is still in office.  The new sheriff getting the necessary training during that period depends on whether there is a class available during that time.

I have been to classes at the taxpayer's tab.  It is not cheap with class fees, food and lodging. gas for the vehicle. 
Again, is this what you want to do if you believe in Mr. Lear? 
Who cares who is in charge while he is getting his education. 
If he is not certified, then he gets his education for free, so to speak, and he gets to move on at your county's expense.
If he is certified, then let's hear from him.

ready

QuoteHi my name is James C. Lear Sr. I’m running for Elk County Sheriff on the Republican ticket. I’m 49 years old, I have lived in Howard for several years. My experience is 28 years in law enforcement, security and military combined. I also have experience in several other safety fields. Honorably discharged from the United States Air Force. I’m married and have five children. If you have any further questions you can email me at jamesclearsr@gmail.com and I will be happy to answer them for you. You can also find me on Facebook. If you would like to meet me in person and set down and talk. You can come by my house I live at 746 E. Jefferson St. Howard. I look forward to meeting people and addressing any concerns you might have.

I guess that explains it.  He will only meet you face to face, or by email.  and this forum is different than e-mail because??????

ready to be confused.

Quote from: ddurbin on July 22, 2012, 12:03:07 AM
Pardon my butting in here, but the question was asked in post #25 whether Mr. Lear was a certified Kansas law enforcement officer, but I don't recall there ever being a definite yes or no answer provided.  Shouldn't that be established before getting too far along on who pays for the training if he isn't?

I think this is a question that Mr. Lear should answer. I don't know if he is a certified officer or not. He can answer that question.

Mr. Lear ,You say you have lived in Howard for several years, we know your children have but can you tell us exactly how many years you have lived in howard? For what reason did your children not live with you for so many years? You also say you have 28 years in law enforcement ,security and military combined but can you tell us besides your security guard and military job do you have any other law enforcement experience. How long were you in the miliatry and what branch and title?

Jcoffee,
I can't answer many of your questions but I beleive in Mr Lears first post he said he was Honerably discharged from the US Air Force

And, the last I knew, Mr. Lear was out of state.

Ok, now let me go through this again. If Mr. Lear wins the office of sheriff, he would attend a 2 week sheriff school at the training academy during the last week of November and the first week of December or the first two weeks of December. This is required for all newly elected sheriffs. This is before he takes the office of sheriff.

If he is not a Kansas certified law enforcement officer, then he would be required to attend the 12 week program when the academy could get him a spot after he takes office in January..

His undersheriff, (which he is required to have), will run his office.

All Kansas law enforcement officers go to the training academy at the expense of the tax payer. Mr. Hanks went there at the expense of the City of Longton, I believe.

Quote from: readyaimduck on July 22, 2012, 11:59:40 AM

My question to Janet, as she has been in this position:  Is it better, or more advantageous to have someone in that position that has a background in the field, or is it better to start off with no preconceived idead?
 
ready

The only answer I can give you, ready, is this..it depends on whether or not the Elk County voters want change or not? Simple answer. If the voters don't want change, then so be it. If they do want change, it will happen.

I want you to notice that I said VOTERS. It is not the citizens who make these decisions. It is the citizens who are registered voters who make these changes or not.

My personal opinion is that sometimes it is better to have someone new in an office.  In this case, there are enough deputies, etc., to keep the office from falling apart while a newcomer becomes familiar with the situation.  A new face comes to the office without preconceived opinions about the community and it's citizens.  They are more likely to not have personal issues with the citizens.  I know, in the face of the many terms that Janet served in this office, that this sounds hypocritical.  But everybody loved Janet and Janet loved everybody.  She was truly concerned about her citizens, right down to the youngest baby.

I think we need to clean house from top to bottom,but the problem is most people around here have there heads buried in the sand  dont know what goes on at the court house or just dont care enough to change what they have put up up for years.

I don't think anyone needs to be told how to clean house in elected offices.  All they have to do is vote.  But, most of our county officials do not have any opposition.  The exceptions are the sheriff's office and the office of county attorney.  Oh, yes, there is opposition in two of the county commissioner's offices.  People, if you truly want a change, VOTE!

Quote from Wilma:
She was truly concerned about her citizens, right down to the youngest baby.

Wilma,
Is this different than the current sheriff, in your opinion ?

jarhead,

Mother really can't answer that because she has not had any dealings, none, with Mr. Hanks or his people. You, however; used to be related to Mr. Hanks, so you are in a better position to say he does or doesn't and you get out more than my Mother does.

In Howard, we hardly ever see any law enforcement. The only time I see anyone is when they are traveling the highways or they are in a cafe' eating.

In the case of my dis-election, the county wanted change and they got it. Good or bad, they got change. A ot of people would say for the good and they are wlecome to their opinion.

Quote from: oldfart on July 28, 2012, 01:09:15 PM
I think we need to clean house from top to bottom,but the problem is most people around here have there heads buried in the sand  dont know what goes on at the court house or just dont care enough to change what they have put up up for years.

So goes the old saying...we've done it this wasy for 40 years why do we want to change? LOL

I wish we could change it all, every single elected official from the President on down. However; that isn't going to happen.

Personally, in this day and age with the economy like it is, I don't know why anyone would want to run for public office. I will never again run for public office because I don't want the headache or the stress.

Not many people know this, but I used to have a really bad condition on my hands where they would just bleed like you wouldn't believe. One year after getting away from government work, my hands cleared up and I don't have that problem anymore. Public office is not for everyone, but good luck to those who think that is what they want to do.

Janet is right that I have had no dealings with Hanks as sheriff.  I did, however, see quite a bit of him while he was Janet's deputy and I am not going to say any more than that.

My question to Mr. Lear is:  If you started this thread announcing you are running for Sheriff, then disappear and not answer direct questions...that says something about you as a person:
1.  You won't address dribble, personal issues
2.  You didn't start this thread...only your campaign manager.

Anyone who wants to run for Sheriff in these times, is either:  a..(fill in the blank); b..(fill in the blank) or c....a blankety blank.

I wish you best of luck Mr. Lear. Don't know you, and it's obvious we won't. 
ready

Well, ready, I don't understand why this is bothering you so much. His race really doesn't start until after the primary. He is a republican and Doug is a democrat. Why should either one of them get in a hurry to campaign when that race will be decided in November? It will be from August 8th through November 5th that the campaigning for that office needs to happen.

As you know Janet, when it comes to "EX" relation it is better to keep ones mouth shut---pro or con. To open it one way or the other only pisses one side or the other off. Now you quit trying to get me to stick my foot in my mouth---again---like I usually do. :D

Like you ,I'm not sure why people are so upset with Mr. Lear for not answering all their questions on this forum. I do not know Mr. Lear and wouldn't know him if he ran up and kicked me in the arse but I think someone said he was out of state at this time. Maybe he has a job that takes him out of state--I don't know, but it's possible he is a busy man trying to make a living . Maybe he don't have time to be on the forum all the time like a few of us ---I mean, some of you are. :angel:
Hell, maybe the poor guy only types with one finger---one letter at a time, like I do, and does not have 30 minutes to labor over a message, like I just did, typing this.

I just think things are good in the sheriff deparment the way it is. I know alot people had some big regrets in Sedan some years ago. Getting some one new and full of beans scares me a little bit. Anyone I have met from sheriff dept doesnt seem to have any kind of god almighty with a badge attitude and I never set on the road stalled for more than 10 minutes that one didnt come along and offer help.
What worrys me is that he may not be intirely truthful. He says he lived in Howard for several years how many is that, I heard 3 or 4 and thats only a few years to me.I dont know if that means anything or not. I looked at his facebook page and seems its only for show too. I heard he can blow smoke up your rear so fast you will love him when he walks away and wont realize he insulted  you for about 20 or 30 more minutes.

     His post said he looked forward to addressing any concerns people might have. If so, why not here ?

    I see no reason to wait until later. If all he was doing by posting was getting a free political ad, nuf said.

Amazing!  I see one candidate (of many in Elk county) post a simple introduction on this forum, giving very open contact information, and inviting the electorate to call, write, email or even personally visit to discuss any questions or concerns they may have.  Yet here are those who are too lazy to dial a phone or write an email who pillory him for not living here on this forum at your beck and call.  What about all the other folks running for public office?  Where are they, and where are all your voices regarding their lack of accessibility on the forum?

You've even had positive reports by third parties here regarding this man & his children, yet still you whine.  Since your vote is a personal & private matter, I would challenge you who are complaining to do your civic duties... you investigate the candidate, you contact him, you research the facts... rather than sit on your laurels and expect to be hand fed on your schedule.  I don't believe Mr. Lear suggested that you question him here, rather he gave you valid avenues of contact.  Do you have no lives away from your precious keyboards & outside this forum?

Wonder of all wonders, I have to applaud Mr. Patriot for his post.  He just put in plain words and better words than I could have used, my exact thoughts on this matter.  If this is your only avenue for information on the candidates, I feel sorry for  you.  You are not going to get what you want by tapping a keyboard.

Besides, Mr. Lear does not have any competition in the near election.  His competition will be in the Nov. election.  What's the hurry about campaigning now and giving the voters a chance to get tired of you?  Better to concentrate on the candidates who do have competition this time around

Outstanding post Patriot.

@jarhead - I really wasn't trying to get you to stick your foot in your mouth. Really, I wasn't.

@ Patriot - You rock!

Janet is still as smart as I always knew she was.

Posted by: Patriot

QuoteWhat about all the other folks running for public office?  Where are they, and where are all your voices regarding their lack of accessibility on the forum?

Patriot...I find this ironical as you chimed in along with Ross on the Elk Konnected forum and tried to ask the same questions of the now running Ms. Hendricks.  And we know where that got us 1500000 pages later with the same unresponse.
I have come to the conclusion that no one in Elk County talks to each other. 

Janet: I am not bothered.
I personally do care if certain people take over this foum and turn it into a Topix...which I find disguesting...

and p.s.   I have a life outside of this forum.
ready to retire

Quote from: readyaimduck on July 29, 2012, 05:52:38 PM
Posted by: Patriot
Patriot...I find this ironical as you chimed in along with Ross on the Elk Konnected forum and tried to ask the same questions of the now running Ms. Hendricks.  And we know where that got us 1500000 pages later with the same unresponse.
I have come to the conclusion that no one in Elk County talks to each other. 

Unlike Elk Konnected, Mr Lear never INVITED folks to use this forum as a primary means of communication.  Two different fruits, ready.  Let's stick with apples here & let the prunes stay with Elk Konnected.  By not posting here, Mr Lear has not made himself out to be untruthful.

You know Patriot its conditioning.  Used to be you went to the rallys and met with the candidates.  Then tv came along and that went out the door.  Same thing with internet.  I have had one candidate come to my door  the other day.  I didn't realize they still did that.  Had a great talk with him and his wife. 
His ideals are my ideals.  Guess my vote isn't important enough for his "opposition" to even bother. :)

Steve,
Had the same thing here, a couple weeks ago. Virgil Peck came by knocking on doors. Had a good long visit and he didn't act like he was in a hurry to get away like some of them do.

Quote from: Patriot on July 29, 2012, 06:16:52 PM
Unlike Elk Konnected, Mr Lear never INVITED folks to use this forum as a primary means of communication.  Two different fruits, ready.  Let's stick with apples here & let the prunes stay with Elk Konnected.  By not posting here, Mr Lear has not made himself out to be untruthful.

     Thing is, Mr Lear DID post here.  ::)   But, obviously just as a political advertisement, rather than a means of communication of ideas.  It is also just as obvious who some of you are voting for.

So, have you tried to contact Mr. Lear in any way?  Have you tried to talk to him in the ways that he suggested?  And what is wrong with using this means for a political statement?  Plenty of you are doing it on other threads.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 30, 2012, 07:32:11 AM
     Thing is, Mr Lear DID post here.  ::)   But, obviously just as a political advertisement, rather than a means of communication of ideas.  It is also just as obvious who some of you are voting for.

Yes, he did 'post' here.... obviously as a means of providing his contact information.  And I've taken him up on the opportunity to talk.  It was refreshing to talk with someone who appears to have leadership qualities and a sense of loyalty to the public as opposed to a white ivory tower mentality of the common bureaucrat sucking off the public teat for health insurance & a paycheck.  He seemed to understand the need for less wasteful spending, better management of resources, more visibility in areas more than a half-mile off the highway, and the dangers of nepotism within a small agency. 

As for who the other posters on here will or will not vote for..... WTH does that have to do with anything?  Since we're now reading crystal balls, your comments make it clear that you may be like so many other liberals who see facts as an impediment to your gossip mongering and who think everything should be handed to you on a silver platter because you're somehow entitled.  You can send an email from that keyboard just as easily as you can waste keystrokes here.... write the man and ask your questions... after all, he invited it.

Wilma's right.... unless you're a died in the wool socialist democrat, perhaps you should contact him personally.

Quote from: Wilma on July 29, 2012, 11:12:41 AM
Wonder of all wonders... 

Wilma, we finally we seem to agree.  Just proves that sometimes the path to common ground can be a rough one.  Careful though, I've been told that agreeing with me can be anathema to one's local reputation in some circles.    ;D

And disagreeing with me can open a can of worms.

anathema ? You wanna PM me Patriot and tell me what the hell that word means ? Don't want for ol Sarge to think I aint smart not knowing the meaning of that word.

[quote...]anathema...[/quote]

Perhaps 'anethesia" or enema maybe, but NOT anathema!!!    :P
<scarcasm font is now off! :)>

ready

Quote from: jarhead on July 30, 2012, 12:24:25 PM
anathema ? You wanna PM me Patriot and tell me what the hell that word means ? Don't want for ol Sarge to think I aint smart not knowing the meaning of that word.

Let's make this easy, Marine:   W e b s t e r
The dictionary people. LOL  Now... go take that hill!

Quote from: Wilma on July 30, 2012, 12:05:21 PM
And disagreeing with me can open a can of worms.

S'ok, Wilma.... Jarhead likes worms. 

Quote from Patriot:
Let's make this easy, Marine: W e b s t e r
The dictionary people. LOL Now... go take that hill!
S'ok, Wilma.... Jarhead likes worms.

Sorry Flyboy---no hills left around here. They all melted down to noth'n but a bump on the ground.
Hey I don't like worms. Had them once back when I was a pup. Ma saw me out in the yard scooting around dragging my arse in the grass and gave me a couple of Ball Bluing to get rid of them worms. Still got green butt cheeks from the grass stains. Next time I see ya I'll show them to you. Real cool look'n I think .

Quote from: jarhead on July 30, 2012, 05:52:04 PM
Next time I see ya I'll show them to you. Real cool look'n I think .

Thanks, but I'll pass. :P

Patiot, I double dog dare you to look ;D

Maybe Mr. Lear just wants to earn his votes one at a time I guess or maybe he just hopes everyone votes republican.

This time around I am definitely voting Republican.  That is all that is on my ballot.  Next Nov., we will just wait and see.

Quote from: Janet Harrington on July 28, 2012, 07:43:19 PM
In the case of my dis-election, the county wanted change and they got it. Good or bad, they got change. A lot of people would say for the good and they are welcome to their opinion.

Ahhh, Janet. There are those of us who miss you, yet thoroughly understand your reasoning for not running again. Continue to wish you the best in the future.  :D

Where have James Lears leadership qualitys got him so far in life? Does he work? what does he do ? Has he been unemployed longer then he has worked since he has lived here? He says he has five kids but didnt raise any of them as far as I know, how does he think he can run a sheriff dept.I think hes a guy that likes to hear his head rattle.

It seems to me the major qualification for any office in Elk County is that you are born and raised here?

Except for two County Commissioners that threw in Elk Konnected as what appeared to be a qualification,
during the Meet and Greet the Candidates?

What exactly makes Elk County politics tick?

Is it just hearsay, rumors and good old boys that work?

I have asked plenty of questions on another thread and there doesn't appear to be any born and raised from here that can respond with proper and polite and truthful answers. And I wonder why?

Is it because I wasn't born and raised here?

Do you think you have enough born and raised here to copulate and re-populate this area?

You born and raised here are going to have to learn to accept the outsiders sooner or later or watch your communities die.

These are facts of life.

Isn't it time to join the diversification of the rest of the world?

Where is that Elk Konnected think positive attitude for Elk County?

I think the elk connect think positive attitude voted.

Quote from: ELK@KC on August 08, 2012, 07:10:12 AM
I think the elk connect think positive attitude voted.

That remains to be seen doesn't it?

Or has the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners released the information to the special people?

I can't say if it was 'Elk Konnected' positive, but I'm positive about one thing.... over HALF the voters voted AGAINST the status quo.  Numbers don't lie.  Let's hope that fact isn't lost on the incumbent.  Just sayin.

First I want to thank Patriot for posting the results of the races that were contests.  I would like to see all the results, but I think that will come out in the paper.

When Janet was running we always analyzed the results.  i.e., how many of each party voted; how many votes each candidate received; the percentage of votes compared to the number of voters.  It was interesting.

Just interested...Was that turn out about normal for Elk County? I didn't see huge numbers making a special effort to vote to make changes. To me that says as much as how the vote turned out.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on August 08, 2012, 11:30:30 AM
Just interested...Was that turn out about normal for Elk County? I didn't see huge numbers making a special effort to vote to make changes. To me that says as much as how the vote turned out.

The total population of the district, including kids, is just north of 700.  Remove those not eligible to vote (independents/demoncrats/kids & unregistered) plus 100 degree temps, I would say the turnout was pretty representative.

Quote from: Wilma on August 08, 2012, 10:07:52 AM
First I want to thank Patriot for posting the results of the races that were contests.  I would like to see all the results, but I think that will come out in the paper.

You're welcome.  Here's a place with the other results: http://www.kake.com/elections (http://www.kake.com/elections)

58% of the voters, voted against the incumbant,
Too bad they were split between two candidates!

But still I think 58% speaks volumes.

Quote from: Ross on August 08, 2012, 12:28:53 PM
58% of the voters, voted against the incumbant,
Too bad they were split between two candidates!

But still I think 58% speaks volumes.

42% voted for the incumbent,  I would say that speaks volume.

The drama has everyone excited,or woke up what ever you want to call it

Quote from: Mom70x7 on August 07, 2012, 07:53:11 PM
Ahhh, Janet. There are those of us who miss you, yet thoroughly understand your reasoning for not running again. Continue to wish you the best in the future.  :D

Thank you, Mrs. Lane.

Quote from: jcoffee on August 07, 2012, 10:23:53 PM
Where have James Lears leadership qualitys got him so far in life? Does he work? what does he do ? Has he been unemployed longer then he has worked since he has lived here? He says he has five kids but didnt raise any of them as far as I know, how does he think he can run a sheriff dept.I think hes a guy that likes to hear his head rattle.

Mr. Lear has posted his address, his phone number, his email? If you have all these questions, why don't you call him?

And as for not raising his kids, why don't you ask them if their dad raised them? One lives right there in Howard. His name is James. He works for Perkins Oil. I bet he would be more than glad to talk to you, "jcoffee".

the results are on the Elk co web site ,is a demoncrat kinda like a democrat?

Quote from: upoladeb on August 08, 2012, 06:10:57 PM
...is a demoncrat kinda like a democrat?

Kinda?  Yeah, something like that.

I'm not sure what Patriot means by '"district." Is that different from Elk County? 58% is pretty good, but split ballots can sure change the outcome sometimes.   Ya all must be glad that part is over.

He is talking about the three districts that Elk County is divided into for the purpose of County Commissioner representation.  This particular district is District 3 which had the only contested race for county commissioner.  It includes the west side of Elk County.  District 2 is now comprised of Howard Township and Paw Paw Townships.  District 1 is the east side.  Districts are determined by the population.  This past year the population shifted so that District 2 lost Union Center Township to District 3.  Approximately 1/3 of the population is in District 1, 1/3 of it is in District 2 and 1/3 of it is in District 3.  I hope this answers your question. 

Sure did...thank you.

Quote from: jcoffee on August 07, 2012, 10:23:53 PM
Where have James Lears leadership qualitys got him so far in life? Does he work? what does he do ? Has he been unemployed longer then he has worked since he has lived here? He says he has five kids but didnt raise any of them as far as I know, how does he think he can run a sheriff dept.I think hes a guy that likes to hear his head rattle.

HMmmm Notice the words used.....Sir it sounds like your the one who likes hearing your head rattle. IF you want to know these answers, why not go ask the man. He has posted his phone and all contact information.  Instead of asking on here, just go to the horse so to speak.   
You know, what is it about getting up off ones ass and picking up the phone or going to meet the person you have questions about.  I know i do when i have such questions. ITs simple to do too.

For some reason it appears that voters think that they are owed a explanation for everything without any effort on the voters part.  It used to be that folks had to go to town and attend the events held by the "candidate" and interact personally.  Now voters are just plain lazy. They want it delivered to them on a silver ipod or whatever and the candidate is expected to meet all the voters questions without ever being asked directly by the voter. 

Then you got those who vote just because so and so is friends with so and so and they dont' have a clue as to what their platform is about. 

Just sheer laziness!  PURE AND SIMPLE

Quote from: srkruzich on August 11, 2012, 08:44:20 AM
For some reason it appears that voters think that they are owed a explanation for everything without any effort on the voters part.  It used to be that folks had to go to town and attend the events held by the "candidate" and interact personally.  Now voters are just plain lazy. They want it delivered to them on a silver ipod or whatever and the candidate is expected to meet all the voters questions without ever being asked directly by the voter. 

Then you got those who vote just because so and so is friends with so and so and they dont' have a clue as to what their platform is about. 

Just sheer laziness!  PURE AND SIMPLE

Yep.

he has my vote

Quote from: srkruzich on August 11, 2012, 08:44:20 AM
For some reason it appears that voters think that they are owed a explanation for everything without any effort on the voters part...

Just sheer laziness!  PURE AND SIMPLE

True... not only when it comes to candidates & elections, but also about current events & the actions of officials already in office.

What is it that you like about Elk County? If you do not like anything or anyone why stay? Are you always so negative?

Quote from: proelkco on September 12, 2012, 04:01:53 PM
What is it that you like about Elk County? If you do not like anything or anyone why stay? Are you always so negative?

If you're asking me... You asked once & I've already answered that several days ago.  But just to be clear... I stay because I like a picnic... even if there are a few flies.

Quote from: Patriot on September 12, 2012, 04:27:00 PM
If you're asking me... You asked once & I've already answered that several days ago.  But just to be clear... I stay because I like a picnic... even if there are a few flies.

Patriot,

I really like that. I stay in Elk County because I like the picnic, too, with the flies and ants. LOL

No Janet---you stay in Elk County because if try to move elsewhere, they would tar & feather you and send you packing back to elk county ;D
That's payback for not helping me carry my boat up the river bank :angel:

Merle Hey's Dad always said that if you settled in Elk Co. you would always be too poor to leave.

There is that, too.

Don't you all know you are off topic?  That is not allowed here? :laugh: Not that I care, but apparently it is important to some of the more prolific posters on the forum. :police: I guess when you are the one doing it it is ok. Just not when others do it on your topic. time to get off the forum and go back to that episode of Hillbilly Handfishin' I got on the DVR.

You have Jarhead on tape?

Darn, that's off thread, isn't it?

Yup. I know how it happens. Someone says something interesting and people  just add to it without checking to see if it's on topic. I know I'm guilty of it too occasionally...like now.  :angel:
    OK back to Mr Lear.