"Sometime in the future when city officials want to use those light poles to promote a special event they may find themselves handcuffed by their own lawmaking."
http://news.yahoo.com/virginia-city-limits-confederate-flag-flying-033258466.html
Red I know that area well. I am not surprised at all. It is not the old families that think that way. It is the professional victims that moved there.
Lexington is very left these days,very politicaly correct.
I qualify to join the sons of confederate vets. I qualify for the Mayflower society too,and they hate the evil whites that setteled this country also.
To sum it up short......screw political correct fly that flag, Reconstruction is still alive and well.
You're right!
There's no alternatives - I'll remain un-reconstructed.
Whoa! Humpy, the Mayflower Society hates the colonialists and the founding fathers? Why? If we hadn't fought the Revolutionary War you'd have a very different flag yet.
Some organizations will no longer stand. They've been watered down to accept centralization and Federalism.
Churches have even went liberal. We ought to defend the founding fathers of the U S Flag, instead there's much
leaning towards socialism.
Surely, you can understand that or not?
Red, someday you figure out I'm just teasing you.You act SO serious. The economic tides have swung in this country for many, many years and we haven't fallen yet. The Gloom and Doom bloggers depend on people like you for their bread and butter. You are such a pessimist! Such woe and sack cloth and ashes. Things aren't good right now, haven't been before but will be again.
If people would stop being such a "gimme" minded bunch we could all live on less. Bring the troops home and suddenly this country has tons more money to spend in some other way, or even lower taxes.
Interestingly enough, I enjoyed seeing a very early Confederate flag on Antiques Road Show this evening. It had 15 stars in a circle and three bars. It had really seen some rough treatment.
No, actually I'm on the winning side. And also, the South was right just as our founding fathers were right.
The yankees did not save the Union, they changed the Union and they're still working at changing it even more these days.
Obama and the Republicans. You can't seem to tell that I'm not a Republican and I never have been and I don't ever want
to be a Republican.
Lately, you and the Catwoman have put on quite a display of both your leanings to liberalism. It really reminds me of Lincoln and his Marxists rather than the Southern Confederates (rebels) and the northeastern democrats that favored the British rather than the American revolutionaries (rebels).
A number of us here don't give a hoot about socialism. I'd rather be on the winning side which is the right side.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 03, 2011, 07:45:28 PM
Red, someday you figure out I'm just teasing you.You act SO serious. The economic tides have swung in this country for many, many years and we haven't fallen yet. The Gloom and Doom bloggers depend on people like you for their bread and butter. You are such a pessimist! Such woe and sack cloth and ashes. Things aren't good right now, haven't been before but will be again.
If people would stop being such a "gimme" minded bunch we could all live on less. Bring the troops home and suddenly this country has tons more money to spend in some other way, or even lower taxes.
Interestingly enough, I enjoyed seeing a very early Confederate flag on Antiques Road Show this evening. It had 15 stars in a circle and three bars. It had really seen some rough treatment.
15 stars?? There were only 14 states in the confederacy
Quote from: srkruzich on September 03, 2011, 08:49:32 PM
15 stars?? There were only 14 states in the confederacy
The 15 star was for Kansas I believe, I may be wrong. Anyway the 15th star was put on in anticipation of another state that they hoped would join the confederacy. Diane may remember better than I do.
David
no actually 13 states with a 14th in the works.
Here is the show Steve.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/200806A34.html
David
I will not argue this. I saw what I saw on the show. Steve can call up the show and argue with them himself! I just thought it was interesting to see the old flag.
I swear if I just stated that the sun rose in the east somebody would argue and tell me I'm wrong.
Steve, after you watch the clip I would be interested in what you have to add. Diane you did in fact see what you saw. I remembered the show from a while back. I had forgotten that there was some chance Kansas would have gone to the Confederacy. Kansas was a very pivitol state when it came to the Civil War. I think Waldo posted some good info. on Kansas and the Civil War this a few years back. I will try to find the posts here on the forum.
David
Quote from: Diane Amberg on September 03, 2011, 09:41:13 PM
I will not argue this. I saw what I saw on the show. Steve can call up the show and argue with them himself! I just thought it was interesting to see the old flag.
I swear if I just stated that the sun rose in the east somebody would argue and tell me I'm wrong.
You are arguing that there were more than 13 states?
Quote from: sodbuster on September 03, 2011, 09:50:27 PM
Steve, after you watch the clip I would be interested in what you have to add. Diane you did in fact see what you saw. I remembered the show from a while back. I had forgotten that there was some chance Kansas would have gone to the Confederacy. Kansas was a very pivitol state when it came to the Civil War. I think Waldo posted some good info. on Kansas and the Civil War this a few years back. I will try to find the posts here on the forum.
David
IF it had gone through osage lands would have become the 14th state.
Ok some folks included deleware. There was a 18 star flag i know of, 13 confederate states plus 5 civilized nations (cherokee brigade).
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0194016.html
11 confederate states with Kentucky and Missouri remaining in the Union but being represented on the Confederate Flag.
State Seceded
from Union Readmitted
to Union1 1. South Carolina Dec. 20, 1860 July 9, 1868 2. Mississippi Jan. 9, 1861 Feb. 23, 1870 3. Florida Jan. 10, 1861 June 25, 1868 4. Alabama Jan. 11, 1861 July 13, 1868 5. Georgia Jan. 19, 1861 July 15, 18702 6. Louisiana Jan. 26, 1861 July 9, 1868 7. Texas March 2, 1861 March 30, 1870 8. Virginia April 17, 1861 Jan. 26, 1870 9. Arkansas May 6, 1861 June 22, 1868 10. North Carolina May 20, 1861 July 4, 1868 11. Tennessee June 8, 1861 July 24, 1866
Sorry for the bad formating.
David
Quote from: srkruzich on September 03, 2011, 10:06:35 PM
Ok some folks included deleware. There was a 18 star flag i know of, 13 confederate states plus 5 civilized nations (cherokee brigade).
In a 3' x 5' shape, the Naval Jack was used by the Army of Tennessee, one of the main forces in the Western field of operations. The Stars and Bars with 18 stars (13 white representing the 13 states and 5 red, representing the five civilized nations - Indians that fought for the confederacy) was the last one to be used in the field by the last Confederate General to surrender with the Cherokee brigade.
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/Flags/us-csa.html
The Five Civililized Nations and the Civil War.
http://www.amtour.net/downloadable/The_5_Civilized_Tribes_in_the_Civil_War_a_Biographical_Essay.pdf
Thanks Steve and Diane for the good trip through the Civil war. Very entertaining for me.
Steve, I will not argue any of this just fore the sake of an argument. I was just referring to the interesting old one that was one the show,period. Nothing more to say. :-X