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General Category => Politics => Topic started by: Warph on July 25, 2011, 02:10:56 AM

Title: Who Owns America? Hint: It is NOT China
Post by: Warph on July 25, 2011, 02:10:56 AM

Here's the big idea:
Many people — politicians and pundits alike — prattle on that China and, to a lesser extent Japan, own most of America's $14.3 trillion in government debt.

But there's one little problem with that conventional wisdom: it's just not true.  While the Chinese, Japanese and plenty of other foreigners own substantial amounts, it's really Americans who hold most of America's debt.

Here's a quick and fascinating breakdown by total amount held and percentage of total U.S. debt, according to Business Insider:

•Hong Kong: $121.9 billion (0.9 percent)
•Caribbean banking centers: $148.3 (1 percent)
•Taiwan: $153.4 billion (1.1 percent)
•Brazil: $211.4 billion (1.5 percent)
•Oil exporting countries: $229.8 billion (1.6 percent)
•Mutual funds: $300.5 billion (2 percent)
•Commercial banks: $301.8 billion (2.1 percent)
•State, local and federal retirement funds: $320.9 billion (2.2 percent)
•Money market mutual funds: $337.7 billion (2.4 percent)
•United Kingdom: $346.5 billion (2.4 percent)
•Private pension funds: $504.7 billion (3.5 percent)
•State and local governments: $506.1 billion (3.5 percent)
•Japan: $912.4 billion (6.4 percent)
•U.S. households: $959.4 billion (6.6 percent)
•China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)
•The U.S. Treasury: $1.63 trillion (11.3 percent)
•Social Security trust fund: $2.67 trillion (19 percent)

So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion.

Title: Re: Who Owns America? Hint: It is NOT China
Post by: Catwoman on July 25, 2011, 06:10:44 AM
Thank you, Warph.  It forgot to include IOU's put into the KPERS account when they raid it for funds and then never repay it...They list state retirement funds but not the "owed back" amounts...Wonder how many millions/billions that would run into?
Title: Re: Who Owns America? Hint: It is NOT China
Post by: Warph on July 25, 2011, 06:24:13 AM

Cat... Check out:
http://cjonline.com/news/2011-07-20/kpers-funding-gap-reaches-83-billion