Cain has the moral stature, the record of achievement, the outspoken wit and candor, and the simple courage to speak his mind that were the hallmarks of the Great Reagan. Only he has proved to be an eloquent and effective public spokesman without fear or hesitation in championing those same principles.
Only Cain of the current crop of actual or potential presidential candidates has already produced a withering phrase that wilts his rivals and turns them pale. "How'd That Work Out for Ya?" has already become a potent national watchword comparable to "Tear down this wall!" or, more recently "It's the economy, stupid."
And Cain has hardly gotten started.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/22/herman-cain-president-ronald-reagan/
QuoteOnly Cain of the current crop of actual or potential presidential candidates has already produced a withering phrase that wilts his rivals and turns them pale. "How'd That Work Out for Ya?"
Did he steal that from Dr. Phil???? LOL
I sure as heck hope so..I've been following his every word since way before he announced he woudl run... He's definitely got my vote! :) A man who speaks from his head, heart and MIND.......not a Teleprompter......!!!!!!!!
No more years....no more years....no more years.....get that ridiculously subsidized family out of Our White House. Nor more years....no more golf games...no more vacations....no more $400.00 pairs of sneakers...no more PERIOD!!!!
Cain slew Able......Hopefully~~~History is about to repeat itself. :)
Friends,
The past several months I have been able to meet with people across this country. One thing is clear: America craves for real solutions to the problems we face. That's why I'm running for President of the United States!
Sincerely,
Herman Cain
He supports affirmative action, opposes an audit of the fed, supported TARP, and does not believe that government should protect the people from large corporations. A real conservative he is not.
I knew that in advance and did research on him. but TARP.. which is what Cain has said he supported, was not a bailout, but a loan. A loan which has, in large part, been paid back already... to my knowledge..
Now, Obama's stimulus was a different story. That was a bailout, plain and simple. It is not fair to link the two, as they are completely different animals.
Why don't you also point out what Herman Cain does support? Lets see~~~ he supports the Fair Tax - That would eliminate the IRS which is part of the FED, that would give back Federal Taxes held out of our paychecks and that would also give rebates to all Americans for essentials. It would also force everyone to pay 23 cents on each dollar spent and that would mean everyone would pay 23 cents to include, Illegal's, Drug Dealers, 52 percent of American's that do not pay taxes.
He Supports opening up the drilling for Gas and Oil here in the U.S. and at the same time looking for other means of fuel.
He has brought 3 Companies from the brink of Bankruptcy... He was VP of Pillsbury.. he was VP of Burger King and he was CEO of God Fathers pizza. All three companies he brought back from going under.
There a lot of things he does support that the Conservative TEA Party supports.. but there will be people that will only think of the negative things Herman Cain sort of supported but has also made statements correcting his statements on TARP and the Federal Reserve.
Mr Cain DID in fact Chair the KC Federal Bank...Did Mr Cain comply with all Federal Bank.. checks and balances during his Chairmanship? Yes.
Did he say there is no reason to audit the FED? Yes. Hhe can only answer given his experiences.
There is NO perfect "silver bullet" candidate out there. Each has their drawbacks ...BUT you must evaluate for yourself who agrees with your core ideology most.
You can say~~ ALL the issues are important and weakness on any one issue is an immediate disqualifier, but then you will end up voting for no one...and this nation will end up with 4 more years of Obama the proven Socialist Marxist.. and frankly I don't think the United States can stand up under much more of Obama..without a full collapse.
While Herman Cain is not perfect.....I'll pull the lever for him. .. I do think he would at least be good, economically. The man does know how to fix brokenness..cause like I said...he's done it several times in the past...
and I also believe he is at least honest and willing to guide the country back to constitutional compliance.
I know, I know~~~ I'm being very optimistic here. but I need to believe in something.. and Cain at least is straight about his position.
I think that we all love liberty and a free America. We should all be working toward that end result ... and I pray that we get back to that point in my lifetime.
Quote from: Teresa on May 23, 2011, 09:32:33 PM
I know, I know~~~ I'm being very optimistic here. but I need to believe in something.. and Cain at least is straight about his position.
Doesn't need a teleprompter at a birthday party either!
Teresa, Ron Paul is a much better fit i think.
Right on Teresa, and just think of the bucks we could save from not having to haul them damn teleprompters all over the world---and the maintenance on them puppies ?? I bet ol "Ears" has a teleprompter over his bed so when him and his Missus do the horizontal Mambo, he reads when to moan and say "Oh wee Baby " !!!!
Quote from: jarhead on May 23, 2011, 09:47:07 PM
...I bet ol "Ears" has a teleprompter over his bed so when him and his Missus do the horizontal Mambo, he reads when to moan and say "Oh wee Baby " !!!!
Naaaaa... the Missus tells him when he can.... moan and go wee.
How she gonna talk when every time I see her she's got an ice cream cone stuck in her mouth ?
Quote from: Anmar on May 23, 2011, 09:44:13 PM
Teresa, Ron Paul is a much better fit i think.
Cain and Paul are both marked improvements over our current President and GOP choices.. But his position on Immigration is terrible. and on the Fair Tax... he doesn't even know what it does as he said when asked about the Fair Tax "I can't see adding another 23% tax on Americans when they are already taxed enough" ..
Does this sound like a Politician that has read and understands the Fair Tax act that is being pushed? No it doesn't... ( and I like the concept of the fair tax)
I will vote for him if he's the chosen candidate, though; but I will not vote for him in the primaries.
Quote from: Teresa on May 23, 2011, 10:06:54 PM
Does this sound like a Politician that has read and understands the Fair Tax act that is being pushed? No it doesn't... ( and I like the concept of the fair tax)
Another unique feature of the Fair Tax, if memory serves, is that it is only paid on services and NEW goods, not on USED products. That may have changed, I'm not sure.
teresa, if its the linder and boortz plan, the fair tax will eliminate payroll tax, as well as all the tax on products prior to its final sale. You see for example, I pay tax on supplies to build my hives so i have to figure in the cost of tax into the product. Same thing goes on in any product manufactured and usually by the time you get the product its been taxed probably half a dozen times. THe 23% is taxed but eliminating the other taxation. Plus it eliminates payroll tax. IT Doesn't eliminate state taxes and income taxes though.
All in all, if it was implemented, it would reduce your taxes by about 20% from what you already pay now. PLUS You don't pay tax unless you buy something new. Used items, homes, needs are exempt plus You get a check every month from the government returning the basic needs that you get exempted on like food, elect, gas, ect....
For Teresa,
Ron paul does not support the Fair Tax, and this letter outlines his reasoning
http://weblog.larrydburton.com/2006/09/26/ron-paul-and-the-fairtax
I'm not a fan of the fair tax. Its simply replacing one source of government funding with another. Why not just eliminate income taxes all-together and offset the reduction of income by drastic spending cuts? Lets end this worldwide empire thing we got going on, and fix our spending issues at home so we aren't just pissing our money away.
Those are pretty simple concepts that everyone can agree on, but why isn't anything ever done about them?
The Federal income tax ought to be abolished and certainly not replaced.
The Fair Tax is not fair. Do we want the Fed's to have more money to build a
larger gov't? We'll never get back to the Constitution by keeping their pipeline
open to the money, which includes the Federal reserve and the printing
and borrowing thereof.
Conservative Republicanism is a joke and if Herman Cain is a Republican conservatibve, we
are just spinning our wheels and getting nowhere.
red...
Wouldn't you agree that allowing people to generally decide their level of taxation is a step in the right direction? Under the proposals in HB 25, I could choose to make many major purchases as used goods, thereby avoiding tax. No, used milk isn't a good idea. I could choose to be taxed or not by deciding against a particular purchase altogether. But in the greater scheme, I (not the government) decide much of what I pay in taxes (used car, pre-owned home, boat, buy vs no buy, etc.) . This seems a vast improvement over my current choice (earn less to be taxed less). Also, the tax base would be broadened to include all residents spending above the poverty level.... even foreign visitors & illegal aliens. Perfect? No. A major improvement over the current, special interest driven, octopus we call a tax code? I think so.
Mind you, I'm seeing this as incremental change as opposed to the final death of the middle class under the current system. Maybe I'm missing something.
Quote from: Patriot on May 24, 2011, 06:17:02 AM
red...
Wouldn't you agree that allowing people to generally decide their level of taxation is a step in the right direction? Under the proposals in HB 25, I could choose to make many major purchases as used goods, thereby avoiding tax. No, used milk isn't a good idea. I could choose to be taxed or not by deciding against a particular purchase altogether. But in the greater scheme, I (not the government) decide much of what I pay in taxes (used car, pre-owned home, boat, buy vs no buy, etc.) . This seems a vast improvement over my current choice (earn less to be taxed less). Also, the tax base would be broadened to include all residents spending above the poverty level.... even foreign visitors & illegal aliens. Perfect? No. A major improvement over the current, special interest driven, octopus we call a tax code? I think so.
Mind you, I'm seeing this as incremental change as opposed to the final death of the middle class under the current system. Maybe I'm missing something.
You forget under it, groceries would not be taxable. Basic needs are not taxed. Second houses would be taxed though. Red the spending could be cut but you would still end up with having to have some form of tax to operate. The issue now is keep it as low as possible not grow the taxes.
Quote from: srkruzich on May 24, 2011, 06:24:40 AM
You forget under it, groceries would not be taxable. Basic needs are not taxed.
I thought the prebate feature covered expenditures only up to the poverty level and above that, even food was taxed.
Srkruzich, I understand what you're saying. There was no income tax until about 1913. Need a correction there. Simply believe that the Federal income tax ought to be abolished.
Quote from: Patriot on May 24, 2011, 06:28:55 AM
I thought the prebate feature covered expenditures only up to the poverty level and above that, even food was taxed.
It covers all basic needs like food housing ect for everyone including the rich folks. Which is fair. They are the ones who will be buying the yachts and luxury items. I think your right i think basic needs limit is 30 -40k a year that is not taxable. I personally believe that NO Food should be taxed whatsoever, no medicial care taxed whatsoever. Those items are off limits.
Quote from: redcliffsw on May 24, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
Srkruzich, I understand what you're saying. There was no income tax until about 1913. Need a correction there. Simply believe that the Federal income tax ought to be abolished.
UHm yeah i know but right now the problem is that even if we scale back to what government is constitutionally authorized to fund, it would require a tax for feds to maintain the military in the manner it is needed to be maintained. Secondly i know you don't agree but the Government has made a contract with people by forcing them to pay into the ss system. IT needs to be fully funded for those who are fully funded in it and the folks that are 35 and below privatized so that they own the accounts. THat will stop the ponzi scheme. You really cannot cut off the folks that promises have been made to for all their lives. I like anyone else that paid into it, paid into it and either we get our money back or they fund it. One or the other. Its simple as that. I personally would take my money if it was offered and i would get out. I haven't even used up a third of what i paid in. Shoot my dad paid in for 40 years and didn't collect one dime. THat money should go to my mom. My mom paid in socialsecurity for 30 years and theres more money that is in the system that she isn't going to get. IF it were privatized, he would have been able to pass it to her, and she would get it and hers.